[music] >> "the james brown show" is brought to you by geico. >> a quarterback at the university of minnesota. today's guest played safety on special teams in the national football league. however, his playing career was so brief, he was able to become the nfl's youngest assistant coach. he later became the fourth african american head coach for the tampa bay buccaneers and the first african american head coach to win a superbowl with indianapolis in 2007. today is a heralded analyst with

abc. he is also an author. success has followed him here today. i welcome hall of famer, tony dungy. we see how things started and the arduous trek you took to get here in the hall of fame. >> it's really hard to believe. i started at the university of minnesota. i played quarterback my whole life, elementary school, jr. high school, high school, college. i didn't get drafted. i was crushed at the time. i didn't know what would happen. it ended up being the best thing for me. i went to pittsburgh, switched sides on the ball. went to the defensive side, played for chuck knoll and learned professional football from coach knoll, learned the other side of the ball. after two years, i was traded to the san francisco 49ers. i played for bill walsh.

at 25 years old, i was out of the league. the coach called me back and said, i think you would be a perfect fit for our staff. >> the coach called -- >> called me. amazingly, i got an intro into coaching at 25 years old. i'm coaching at the best place in football. >> it's also parallel with what your family life was like and the kind of influence that mom and dad provided. >> i was really, really blessed. my mother was a teacher. my dad was a teacher as well. they always kind of drilled enough to think about the future. think about your life. what do you want to do? my mom especially was looking at life and know that god is leading you. try to figure out whether things are going well or whether you're disappointed. what's the next step? that really, i think, shaped me. it came from my parents. >> and some assets, if you will, that they possess that

spoke to why, from my perspective, you were so successful at coaching and what you're doing even now. they were teachers. >> they were teachers. i can remember sitting out recording my mom's grade book for her. she would say, oh, johnny smith, he has got a c plus. he is a better student than that. i have to do something to get him going. my dad was the same way. his saying was his job as a teacher was to help every student get an a. that's what he thought his job was. so, when i got into coaching, i kind of took that same perspective. my job is to help players be the best they can be. if someone isn't playing well, what can i do to help them? >> i hope this makes sense as well, coach. your dad and the disappointments that he had along the way given the amount of talent that he had, i'm supposing that had an influence on you in terms of how you dealt with difficulties.

>> my dad was a special man, ph.d. in physiology at a time when that was the norm for african americans. he talked to me about handling disappointments by saying what can you do to make the situation better? i remember him telling me there was a time they wouldn't let us fly planes. we had to do it ourselves. i scratched my head for a long time. i found out at his funeral that he was an airman. >> hold on. you found out at your own dad's funeral. >> he never talked about it. he never said this was a special group and all of the accolades they got. he said, that was a situation that was tough. we didn't cry about it. we tried to find a way to make the situation better. that's what he always passed on to us. >> as even keeled as you are,

as calm as you are, you're going to sit there and tell me over the days that you could lose your temper really easily? >> yeah. i was ultra competitive, hotheaded. >> technical foul, kicked out of games. >> yeah. yeah. it took awhile. i learned the lesson that being under control is better than being emotional. >> your wife talked about that's. we'll talk more about that with coach dungy after this. >> portions of the james brown show are brought to you by geico. 15 minutes could save you 15% or more on mom, i just saved a lot of money on my car insurance by switching to geico. i should take a closer look at geico... you know, geico can help you save money on your homeowners insurance too? great! geico can help insure our mountain chalet! how long have we been sawing this log?

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[music] >> coach tony dungy's philosophies include, whatever it takes, no excuses, no explanations. he also said my philosophy is to convince every guy on the team that his role is important. >> i wish i could take credit for it, but that was my coach, chuck knoll, speaking to me as a young player. i thought, boy, i want to transfer that to players who play for me. it was so special to me. coach knoll really said something to cement my philosophy. i'm not here to motivate players.

he didn't believe you won with emotion. he believed you won with execution. i carried that over. that's what i tried to get across to our team. i may not know all of the people who played for you. let me throw in a couple names and ask what they poured into you. denny green. >> he really formulated me as a head coach. he called me in and told me why he was doing things. he wanted me to succeed. >> ownership in kansas city. >> lamar hunt. the hunt family, you talk about special people treating everyone as family. i saw that in there. dan rooney with the steelers, those kinds of things impact you. you see not only can you win doing it that way. it helps you win when everyone is together. >> you had all of these folks

pouring into you. it seems like us from the outside like it took forever for you to get the opportunity to be a head coach. when you got the opportunity, how did you maximize it? >> it did take a while. i would go to these interviews and think i'm going to get the job and come in second and come back and say, oh, man, i didn't get it. i didn't get overanxious. i just had to trust that the right time and the right job would come, but it did come in tampa bay. >> there is one job you thought was yours until ownership or someone in leadership said something to you that kept you from getting the job. >> i was in this interview. it was going along really well. we took a break. i remember calling my wife lauren and saying, this might be the one. we seem to be clicking. at the end of the interview, the owner actually asked me. he said, i read something about you. i heard you don't use profanity. i heard you rarely raise your voice. i said, i try not to. he said, how in the world are

you going to get these players to respond? how are you going to keep people in line? >> because you won't engage in profanity and this rants. >> i said i'm going to do it like my dad did. i will show them, i love you. i care about you. i respect you. that, in turn, will generate that same type of mutual respect. because of that, these guys will perform. the owner looked at me and said, i don't think that will work in the national football league. and, i didn't get the job. >> wow. >> the next year, i interviewed in tampa with the glazer family. rich mckay, the gm, and i got the job. i remember the first meeting with the players. i'll let you know, i'm a christian first and foremost. i'm not going to curse at you,

yell at you or demean you. there are guys that think that's the only way you learn and function. >> you said that? >> i said, anybody who needs that, raise your hand. you know, no one raised their hand. >> wow. >> i said, if you need it, we can trade you to another team where they'll yell at you and scream. here's the way we're going to do it. nobody wanted to do that. >> he is a superbowl-winning coach. he is in the hall of fame. more on coach tony dungy after this. >> 30 floors above upstairs is the oasis

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they stuck together. they had that cohesion, they wouldn't be defeated. >> talk about how you prepared your team the night before the superbowl with a game plan speech. >> we were talking about the superbowl year. we had some ups and downs. i remember telling the team, this is not going to be a smooth ride tomorrow. there is going to be some storms, but we've navigated it all year. we'll get through it. we've just got to stick together as we have. i made a decision that night, if we lost the toss, we're going to kick off and kick it to devon heston. >> you were going to kick the ball directly at devon heston. >> we meant business, and we weren't afraid. >> so you were showing your men. >> we kicked it off. 12 seconds later, he was in the other end zone. >> 12 seconds later.

>> i could feel my players saying, you said there was going to be a storm, but you didn't say you were going to create it. i felt badly. but, we rallied. we came back together and won that ball game. it's typical of that team. they wouldn't let anything get them down. they wouldn't stay down. they came back and won that ball game. >> you turned that franchise, you and your coaching staff and the players, helped turn that tampa bay franchise around. you thought you were going to be there your whole career. you got fired even though you guys enjoyed post-season success. i've never, in all of my career, come into the nfl and saw a head coach go to the press conference announcing his firing. why? >> i was in tampa six years. we went to the playoffs four times. you know, we had some wonderful, wonderful memories. the ownership made a decision to go in a different direction

after year 6. i wanted to go in there and thank them for the opportunity they gave them as head coach. no one else has done that for me. i wanted to get that across. i went to the press conference. i still have a great relationship with the glazers today. god had something different in store. new team, new players, new fans, new friends that i made. it was -- it was a disappointment, but it was an opportunity. >> and you got the phone call how much after your firing to come to indianapolis? >> it was probably four or five days later. i came home. there was a message on my voice mail. it was the owner of the colts. he said, we made a change in our head coaching position. you are the man i want. he said, i shouldn't say this, but it doesn't matter. tell me how much money you want. i want you. we want to build our team a certain way. we think you are the man to do it. >> how many of us would like to

go to a job like that. >> after talking to him, i knew that's where i wanted to go. >> we'll come mom, i just saved a lot of money on my car insurance by switching to geico. i should take a closer look at geico... you know, geico can help you save money on your homeowners insurance too? great! geico can help insure our mountain chalet! how long have we been sawing this log? um, one hundred and fourteen years. man i thought my arm would be a lot more jacked by now. i'm not even sure this is real wood. there's no butter in this churn. do my tris look okay? take a closer look at geico. great savings. and a whole lot more.

[music] >> tony said his quarterback, peyton manning was the hardest working guy. peyton has raw talent but chooses to push himself like he doesn't. fair or unfair? the monniker he had to wear for a while was a great quarterback who couldn't win a superbowl. >> that is an unfair moniker. he was a tremendous leader for us. that team would not have been where it was without his leadership. he worked harder than any player i've ever been around. he pushed everyone else.

he exemplified things, as a coach, you wanted to get across. it was great for me. i didn't always have to talk about it. >> were you okay with having a guy that the press said, he is pretty much running the show himself not understanding the dynamic there. were you okay with that? >> peyton did a lot for that team, but he did not run the show himself. he was one of the most -- how would i put it -- team oriented people and game plan oriented people. he was great at orchestrating. >> speaking of orchestration, you mentioned tom moore. for the uninitiated, who was tom moore, and what role did he play in your career? >> he was the offensive coordinator for the colts. he was put in the no huddle offense for peyton. it was a fantastic mix perfect storm. >> coaching is knowing about the attitude and character of your players.

talk about the experience you had with warren that taught you a lesson. he is a hall of famer from tampa bay. >> young coach, second year in tampa. we were starting to play well, starting to win. we were riding a winning streak, and warren got hurt. he broke a bone in his hand. i said, warren is hurt. he is not going to be able to play. we can't cry about it. how can we make the situation better? we're going to rally behind you. let's go. we went out and beat the miami dolphins that night. but, the next day, warren came to my office and said, you didn't even miss me. you don't need me. you made me feel like i wasn't valuable. i learned the lesson i was trying to teach the team was one thing, but i forgot about the individual. you can't ever do that. >> in terms of the game of life, you are a best-selling author. you've written a number of books, a couple with your wife too. quiet strength certainly defines who you are in the minds of most people.

what led you to become a writer and author? >> nathan whitaker, who co-wrote that book with me, we worked together on the book. for years, he said, you ought to tell your story. i said, no, i don't think so, nathan. finally, he said, there are a lot of misconceptions about coaches. people think you have to do it a certain way. you have a platform now, very small window. you've won a superbowl. maybe now you can write something that will tell people there is a different way to do it. with that, he kind of got me. he said, well, that makes sense. if we can talk about how to coach and lead and how to help people be better, maybe there is some merit to it. we put the book together, and it did very well. >> important to know this quickly, publishers told you that you would need how many months to write the book? usually a year goes into it. we've got about four months.

>> they told you in terms of promoting the book, you'd need how much time? >> two month or so. it's best if they come out in the winter months for christmas. i said, we can't do that. it's got to come out before training camp. it has to come out before august before we get started with the football season. we lost it at the wrong time. >> more with tony dungy after this. >> the kimberling hotel offers 5 star

>> portions of the james brown show are brought to you by geico. 5 minutes could save you 15% or more on car insurance. visit us at geico.com to see how much you can save. >> tony, you have a number of kids. there might be one we have to keep an eye on. when you were up for the hall of fame induction again, your son justin would have been ten years of age. clearly, he has a career as a prophet in front of them. >> he was telling me he was so sure last year was going to be my year. we missed it two years in a row. he said, dad, i'm telling you, this is your year. it was a tough year. there were 15 strong candidates. he went to his teacher.

his teacher said, i'm giving justin all of his assignments so he can go to the superbowl with you. he feels strongly he needs to be there. when we were in the hotel room, we got the call that i had been inducted or elected. he started crying. i said, how can you cry? you knew it. you predicted it. it was a special moment to have him with us. >> coach, after winning the superbowl, you said that you and your wife were going to pray er at the end of each season to know if it was time to retire? when did you know it was time to retire? >> the 2008 season actually, we had another great year. we got knocked out of the playoffs. we've been coaching -- this is my 13th year as a head coach. i think both of us just felt there were some other things we could do, the lord was calling us to do. we had ministries in tampa we

wanted to get involved with. after praying about it and taking four or five days after the season was over, we both came to the conclusion this is the right time. we just felt peace that both of us were on the same page. >> finally, while the superbowl was the ultimate in the game of football, i've seen you just as excited talking to prisoners who come back later to let you know about the impact on their life or the ones you help steer on the right path. >> i had the opportunity, when i got to tampa, to do visitation in federal prisons in florida. it was really, really special. i got a chance to go see michael vick when he was in leavenworth prison and helped him get back to the nfl. >> encouragement is a good word. tony, you've been an encouragement to people not only

because of your football success but what you're doing in the game of life. we certainly thank you. a true american hero, clearly a hall of famer. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you, j.b. >> we'll see you next week for another edition of "the james brown show." >> the james brown show is produced at the manhattan center, new york's premier event, performance and production facility. the

>> tonight on eyewitness news police shoot a suspected armed robber inside a parking garage at king of prussia mall. officers believe the man committed multiple crimes before finally caught including car swraking and kidnapping. the mall itself was never put on lockdown at any point. good evening i'm natasha brow brown. thanks for joining us. right now police are owe not releasing suspect's name or condition. but say he was driving a stolen car when he was arrested. and eyewitness news reporter anita oh has more. >> usually you don't hear that thing at this mall. it's really well secured and it's