written by jeremy scahill, former democracy now producer and now writes with the correspondence as well. and italled "dirty wars" is based on u.s. operations in somalia, yemen, and afghanistan. the majors -- the major focus is the u.s. assassination of these two who were killed in a u.s. aug strike -- drone strike week apart. i had the opportunity to interview jeremy scahill about his book when we were here in new york. i asked him to start with who i anwar al-awlaki is. the hijackers had

attended services at a mosque and a third one had attended services at a mosque in virginia. ,e was already on their radar but most of the guys said that they did not really know the guy. some believe he was directly attached to the 9/11 attacks, which i think it's preposterous. they nonsensical to think would have keyed into these attacks at the time. he endorsed george bush in the 2000 election. he had a lot of support in the arab community because many people felt that he would be better than al gore on the issue of palestine. he had also been busted twice on

solicitation of but -- of prostitution charges and those were resolved through community service. >> were they real? >> al-awlaki said that they were not real. the first time in 1996 in san diego on a solicitation charge. and then he is pulled in. and he claimed that the fbi on his.hem to inform he had repeated conversations with the fbi and he said that many believe that they had gotten him to do something in terms of his public persona, he is looking at the impending invasion of iraq, guantanamo

starting to grab headlines around the world and the images that came out of that, the people in orange jumpers with hoods on their heads. and the fbi was putting pressure on him to become this full-blown informant. reasonsi for number of ended up leaving the united states and spent a number of years in prison -- in europe. this was in line without a lot of muslims around the world were feeling about the increasing global wars. endedat is when al-awlaki up on the greater of the u.s. counter-terrorism community. they viewed him as someone who was speaking a lot -- a language that a lot of muslims around the world could relate to and they saw him becoming more and more

radical. al-awlaki then goes back to yemen where his father is a university professor. a, his parents and build him -- a building within the family compound. he was there and he was not sure what his dad was going to do. he had these dreams of getting involved in real estate and always had an idea of how he was going to make money, but he was really just the man trying to figure himself out. he started preaching in the mosques in yemen and started teaching classes at the university. on2006, he is arrested trumped up charges of having intervened in a tribal dispute in yemen. he spent 18 months in prison in yemen, 17 in solitary confinement. he comes out a totally changed man. i get into the book his prison writings. they would only allow him certain books, but he read the oyer, a ciahael sh

operative, his writings about bin laden. he was able to read charles dickens and he wrote about various characters in "or expectations." and he did the food review, and when he came out, he was a changed man. >> why was he in prison? >> he was arrested initially on a request from the united states. i heard from a former senior yemeni official that there was a meeting with john negroponte, who at the time was the director of national intelligence with the then saudi ambassador, one of the most powerful diplomats in the world. >> very close to the bush family. >> hutu days after 9/11 was having cigars with president bush -- and two days after 9/11 was having cigars with president bush. >> anti-u.s with outsourced

anything resembling intelligence sources.to yemeni negroponte said that they wanted al-awlaki kept in prison for four or five years so that people would forget about him. he was starting to become popular and his books and speeches were on sale at airports around the middle east and he was very popular in london and elsewhere. they basically just wanted to go away. he was kept in prison for 18 months without charge. the united nations investigated imprisonment and declared unlawful. the fbi came to interrogate al- awlaki when he was imprisoned and were trying to ask him questions about the 9/11 attacks and effectively trying to convince him to shut his mouth. he comes out of prison and starts a blog. people often refer to him as the youtube imam or the internet

imam. he comes out and start pontificating on the affairs of the world. and he has a vibrant comment section on his website and young muslims are asking his interpretation of the koran or the deeds of mohammed. he becomes this figure on the internet. his mosque was the internet. and as the u.s. wars intensified, his rhetoric intensified. and the turning point in the story was in 2009 when major nidal hasan opened fire at fort hood, texas, on his fellow soldiers brittany with an army psychiatrist and gunned down more than one dozen of its -- his fellow soldiers. he was an army psychiatrist and gun down more than one dozen of his fellow soldiers. he inferred that he had been in that e-mail contact with al-

awlaki while he was in yemen. the store was floated in the media and it continues to this day, that al-awlaki helped to plan the four would shooting. there has never been a shred of evidence that he had anything to fortth the ford road -- hood shooting before happen. the males have now been released, the communications between the two, and the -- the e-mail has now been released from a communications between the two appeared and nidal hasan was a pathetic man. he was asking al-awlaki, basically, is it ok to shoot a fellow soldier if you think they are engaged in a crime against islam. but he was putting it into the context of israel and palestine and not directly asking about himself. and he also asked al-awlaki to help him find a wife. and he tried to donate money to him and wanted to give a prize for the best essay. >> but in your book he had

connections with him 10 years earlier. >> nidal hassan said, you might remember, but i met you at your church in virginia. and al-awlaki did not remember. nidal hasan's parents had been members of his church in virginia and they had gone to him with concerns about their son. they asked him for some guidance for their son. al-awlaki had met him at one point. he said that he did not remember him. and then it's shooting happened, the discovery of the emailed between al-awlaki and hassan comes out. there was no indication that al- awlaki had anything to do with it, but the story persisted in the media. awlaki writes that nidal hasan is a hero and he praises the fort hood attacked and says this should be a model for muslims in the military going forward. and he essentially calls on

other soldiers to do this. and yet the tripwire when he did that. then it came -- went from being anderned about the speech young people being radicalized to actually preaching -- praising this action and encouraging others in the military to do the same thing al-awlaki started to be harassed by yemeni intelligence. he eventually went to his family's province in southern yemen to lay low. there -- andki is while he is there, he had withous communications intelligence. and they're saying to his family, look like you do not get al-awlaki to come back to yemen and we put him in prison here, the americans are

going to kill him with a drawn. he can either live under the protection of our intelligence services and we will treat them nicely and the americans can forget about him, or he will continue what he is doing and the americans will kill him with a ground. they said this year's before he was actually killed by a drone. down may of 2009, he went there and tried to convince anwar to come back. and their position is, you have not done anything that is criminal and you should be able to face the evidence. and al-awlaki said, i will not let the americans tell me which face my bed at night. but i will die free. i will continue to do what is right. and that is the last conversation that al-awlaki had with his son. in december of 2009, the u.s. started bombing yemen for the

first time in years. bush had bombed the yemen wants and killed a u.s. citizen. that was in november, 2002. in december of 2009, president obama authorizes a series of missile strikes, not just drone strikes. the most deadly that we know of was in november, 2009, a cruise missile attack on a yemeni village that killed 46 people. three dozen of whom were women and children, which is stunning and horrifying. we have video footage in our film of the aftermath of the strike, interviews with survivors of when the missile hit. it was in pursuit of one person that they said was an al qaeda operative and a write-down and entire bedouin village. those cruise missiles are just resting out there. >> how many were killed? >> 46 were killed, and about 35

or 36 were children and women. the nameslinked with and ages of all of the dead. the peoplevideos of taking on the scene. one tribal leader in yemen, he went there right after the attack and he said to me, if someone had a weak heart, they would collapse because they saw ameet and you could not tell the was go for human. and he said he saw children. he is an older man and he said he found body parts and tried to bury people with dignity. he is an incredibly wealthy man and he went there himself. there's a reason why there is still agitation and a desire for justice for these people. it is one of the poorest strides in all of yemen. who knows why the u.s. bombed it? maybe the government was under pressure from the u.s.

government and they said, it is in the middle of nowhere and no one will care about them and no one will go to investigate. let's give them to the u.s. government. mines and their band and yet, the united states continues to use them. it shreds people. >> the weapons used were? >> they used a tomahawk cruise missile and used cluster bombs. they're like flying land mines. explode and they can shred people. they're probably the most horrifying what i have ever seen the aftermath of any war zone. this is the first strike that president obama authorizes. it is unclear who the real target even was. they claimed it was one man and he was killed and when i talk to the people in yemen, they said he was in miggy -- millwood deneen -- he was in the merger andane -- the madrassa dean he was an old man.

getting at is that the obama administration starts to intensify in yemen. remember, the yemeni government claimed responsibility for the strike and president obama release a statement praising them. yemen does not have a cluster bombs. but for some brave photojournalist going there and photographing it initially, we probably never could have proven that it was a u.s. strike. president obama is directly responsible for the first yemeni journalist reporting on this story continuing to be in prison. he exposed the bombing and remains in prison to this day. the last line of my book is that he is in prison and should be set free. huge story that the u.s. had bombed yemen for the first time in seven years and many end up in prison on

trumped up terrorism charges and was put into a court that is presently set up to prosecute journalists. and president obama called the government there and said that he did not want them to release him, so he is in prison to the state. yemen said that they conducted these airstrikes and that among the dead is the two heads of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, and anwar al-awlaki. the first time that we know that the u.s. intended to kill al- awlaki was in december, 2009. this was before we understood that he had actually been put on the khiel list. we did not find out until two months later. this first strike, the yemeni government takes responsibility, but it was a u.s. strike. and then al-awlaki knows that they're trying to get him. and theyart appearing have not been there since 2002. then in january, 2010, a story leaks to the "washington post"

there are a number of u.s. citizens put on the killings. and that is maintained by the cia and the u.s. joint operations command, and was prominently among them is al- awlaki. after the "washington post" publish that story, they had to run a correction and because the cia got in touch with the "washington post" and said that they did not have american citizens on the killings appeared -- kill list. once he knew he was targeted, he spent the remaining two years of his life on the run. and his father wrote a letter to president obama begging him not to kill his son and sang there is another way to resolve this. if there is evidence that my son is involved with any criminal activity, make it public. and the head of the tri said if he is guilty of anything, will execute him ourselves, but we want to see the evidence. we do not think the u.s. has the right to say simply that someone

should be given the death penalty without ever having a trial. they understood something that barely registered a blip on the radar of the u.s. congress. when we learned that he was on the khiel list, congressman kucinich put forward a bill that americans have the right to due process and the government does not have the right to execute or assassinate american citizens without having tried them. only six members of congress signed onto it with dennis kucinich, and no senators. interestingly, years later, rand paul does this filibuster and republican party and the tea party are all up in arms about whether president obama will hunt them down and kill them, when at the time nobody said anything about it. it was basically dennis kucinich were waging aho candidacy for the president who said anything about this.

so al-awlaki is on the run and they try to killing more than a dozen times. i read the book about one incident in may, 2011, where al- awlaki was very nearly killed. he was in a two-car convoy and the u.s. had drones and other special ops aircraft. they were doing this kind of be sworn to get him. there was a misfire on the drone and it missed his vehicle. there were driving in a vehicle that i gasoline canisters, which is common in countries where they're not gas stations everywhere you travel. hitit it, and -- if it had it, it would have blown. they think that someone is watching in our p.g. at them. they try to do some evasive maneuvers. it circled back around and styres and -- and fired another missile, and now there is a huge dustup. they call this -- they call these two brothers who come to the rescue and there is a chaotic scene per there's always

smoke and clouds. the brothers get into al- awlaki's truck and he gets into their suzuki. it is something out of a hollywood movie and a drive in opposite directions from his mouth -- the smoke. and i talk to someone you had the top down imagery and they look like ants. he had to figure out which one to follow. al-awlaki watched his car with the two brothers and it blow up. and then he was hidden in the mountains. and he made its way to a home of a friend of ms.. he said that night that he counted 11 missiles and he said that they all missed their target, but the next one could be a direct hit. and on september 30, 2011, just a few months later, al-awlaki was in the north of yemen. the u.s. was always looking for him in the south. he and another american citizen, samir koran, was widely believed to have been the editor of

inspire magazine, the al qaeda intoine, they were getting their car and a u.s. launched a ground and killed them in one strike. the u.s. had said that some year khan was not a target, but he theysource said that called a two-for-one. a grand jury had never returned an indictment against samir khan and his family have been told that he had never done anything criminal but he was killed that day with al-awlaki. >> will continue our conversation in a minute. [music break]

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is a battlefield." president obama speaking of the death of al- awlaki. >> the death of al-awlaki is a major accomplishment. he was a leader of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. in that role, he took the lead in the planning and directing efforts to murder innocent americans. he directed the failed attempt to blow up an airplane on christmas day in 2009. he directed the attempt to blow up u.s. cargo planes in 2010, and he repeatedly called on individuals in the united states in iraq and iran a globe to kill innocent women, men, and children to advance his agenda. >> your response? >> i think one of the things that we have to understand about anwar al-awlaki is that no evidence was ever presented that

he played a role in any of these attacks. i'm not saying that i know that he did not. maybe he did. under our legal system, american citizens should have a right to respond to the evidence presented against them, and he was never afforded that. nidal hasan is getting a trial. but all of is getting something resembling a trial. mutallab is getting something resembling a trial. anwar al-awlaki was sentenced to death by a president who served as judge, jury, and ultimately as executioner, and also prosecutor in public. they litigate on amar al- awlaki's deaths penalty case with leaks to the media. his role in the underwear barber case. case. underwear bomber i know that he had met with

farouk abdulmutallab, who was very deranged. but it is very interesting. but al-awlaki is a member of al qaeda in the abn peninsula? he never claimed it himself could be referred to them as brothers. arounde is that he was those circles and they respected him as someone who was definitely prejean things that were in sync with their agenda. -- prejean things that were in sync with their agenda. but when they tried to get them leadership, into bin laden said, i still need to see his resume. until he is test on the battlefield, do not bring in to me. my response to obama is, if all of this was true, with the harambee in presenting the evidence to the american people, or -- what would be harmed be in presenting the evidence to the american people? >> that he could not get him.

that would perhaps be obama's response. >> but if he is guilty of all these things, demanded the extradition. then you could have said in a navy seal team to snatch him if they did not extradite him. obama bestowed on anwar al-awlaki, no one had heard of that before, that he was the head of external al qaeda operations within the arabian peninsula. if anything, he would have been very low level management. we get obsessed with inspire magazine because they are speaking in english. if you read in arabic what has been produced by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and to study was important in that organization, anwar al-awlaki is a nobody. in terms of the jihadist population that is in the circle of aqap. he was convenient because he was

preaching in english to a wider audience. >> you quote an intelligence analyst about his role. >> it right, he was a mid-level management. he would not do anything without being told what to do. in a groundkilled attack along with samir khan. then what happened. >> then his son, we had been living with his grandparents and turnedher, he had just 16. one morning he went into his mother's purse before anyone had gotten up and he had gotten up and took the equivalent of $40 out of it her purse and left a small note saying, "please, forgive me. i miss my father and i want to find him. i will pay the money backed."

and nannie climbed out the kitchen window. i saw the kitchen and i recreated what happened. the security guard saw him and did not think much of it at all. togets on a bus and he goes where he thinks his father is. yet not seen him since 2009. this is the kid was born in denver, karradah, and grew up -- i saw these videos of anwar teaching them how to ride a horse and playing at the beach with him. this kid clearly adored his father. and and his dad because this outline and is on the run. he is coming of age and decides he wants to go find his father. then he takes the bus to rethink his father is and it's going to wait and try to connect with his father. his mother said that she was in a panic when she got? he was left -- he had left because she thought it might have been the cia trying to use him to find his father.

she worried that his text messages and e-mails had been monitored. not find an could open frequency on the recording system because of the radio waves are being used to monitor intensely. i know the family was being watched in one way or another by intelligence. al-awlaki goes to try to find his father and while he is very -- his father is killed in the north of yemen. while he is there, he calls back to speak to his mother and grandparents and they said, it is finished. your father is dead and you have to come home. at that time, the arab spring is happening. the roads were blocked and he had to stay where he was in the south for a couple of weeks until he could safely travel back. it was a treacherous stretch of territory where there was a lot of fighting.

he was depressed and his family members were encouraging him to go out into the world and do stuff. he does with his teeth -- is teenage presence to an outdoor restaurant to eat. and they're there on the night of october 14 compared and a drowned -- october 14 when a drawn appears and lodges a missile and blows up 16-year-old abdulrahman al-awlaki and his teenage cousin spiritednasir -- and his cousins. father,anwar's he loses his son and his oldest grandson. everything was so shredded that they could only find abdulrahman oft find -- find part abdulrahman 's head. and they knew it was him because

he had this very curly hair. on his face the post, this was a kid do what into pop music -- hip-hop music, video games. when the revolution was happening, he would go to the square to hang out and wanted to be part of that change in his country. and he was killed in this drone strike. and the u.s. to this day has never publicly said who they are going after in that drone strike. al-et's turn now to nasir awlaki, the grandfather of abdulrahman . he spoke about the killing of his grandson. >> i want americans to know about my grandson, that he was a very nice boy. he was a very caring boy for his family. .or his mother, his brothers 1995 inorn in august,

the state of colorado, city of denver. when heaised in america was a child until he was 7 years old and i never thought that one day he, this boy, it's nice boy would be killed by his own government. >> that is nasir al-awlaki, the grandfather of abdulrahman al- awlaki. >> the story that we all know in the public now is that u.s. toicials leaked information the media that he was 21 years old. we of the purchase it to prove that he was 16 and bowring colorado in 1995. -- born in colorado in 1995. the dominant story that has been floated was that the u.s. was albana andill that's abdulrahman happen to

coincidentally be there. bana notsaid that al- even on their target list. that opens up the pot belly that with a joint operation. when i spoke to a joint operations guy who was there during the strike, he would not tell me details. he said that the guy they were trying to get, they did not get. and i said, how did you feel when this teenage american citizen had it -- had been killed? and he said, there was a reason that i'm not doing this anymore. u.s. said it was an outrageous mistake. this is all anonymous kemoeatu. they will not talk about it -- this is all anonymous, though. they will not talk about it. president obama has never spoken publicly about it. it suggests there is great controversy within the white

house. i understand from a former administration official who worked on this at the time that when it became abdulrahman became al-awlaki was killed -- abdulrahman al-awlaki was killed, president obama became furious. brennan believed or suspected that it was an intentional hit against al-awlaki's son, this 16-year-old kid. and he ordered a review. and i ask this senior official what happened to the review and he said he did not know. i got in touch with the white house recently exchanged a series of e-mails with the national security council spokesperson and she said she would not discuss any of this is a bit about this and that they would not talk about operational details or any of the reviews. and then pasted a boilerplate response about drawn strikes into the e-mail. -- drone strikes into the mail. and i ask this official that if the narrative was that it was a mistake, what did you say that?

what did you say -- why didn't you say that the 16-year-old u.s. citizen was killed as collateral damage or that we were intending to get someone else and did not do it? and he said, look, we had just killed three u.s. citizens in a two-week time frame, three of whom were not even targeted. it is not look good it is embarrassing -- it does not look good. it is embarrassing reminder standing is that they killed these three u.s. citizens, one of them a 16-year-old kid, was a page you can look at online and see what kind of person -- whose facebook page you can look on line and see what can a person was. and their only response is that this was embarrassing. that tells you a lot of where we are with these drones right. drone strikes. the most egregious part of the whole drone program, because the u.s. does not have any actual intelligence on the ground in yemen, they have taken to doing these signatures strikes to

where they develop a pattern of life and they say that people in a certain region of pakistan, somalia kamari yemen, and there of military age, anywhere from 15 to 70 years old, and they fit a pattern of other people that we believe to be terrorists, then they become legitimate targets. it is the most horrific form of pre crime. they do not know the identities of the people they are killing. they do not know if they are involved in any activity. they are killed for who they might be or might become. for whatever reason that abdulrahman al-awlaki was killed that day, the message said is that u.s. will act with impunity toward a percentage -- a small percentage of people. and u.s. citizens can be killed by their own government. >> attorney general eric holder, who offered the obama administration as the most spirited defense of its policy authorizing this activity abroad

was speaking at george washington university. >> it is an unfortunate, but undeniable fact that some of these strikes -- some of these things come from a small number of united states citizens, who have decided to commit attacks against their own country from abroad. based on principles and supreme court decision handed down during world war ii as well as during its current conflict, it is clear that united states citizenship alone does not make such individual's immune from being targeted. >> that is attorney-general eric holder. jeremy scahill? to pointalso necessary out that the vast majority of the people being killed in these operations are not u.s. citizens. there pakistani, yemeni damaso somalian.yemeni, i think it is ironic that you have a president that is a constitutional law expert and an attorney general that is well-

respected in the field of law coming forward to put together the defense of the stripping of the most basic rights in our constitution. the idea that you can simply of one branch of government unilaterally and in secret declare that in american citizen should be executed or assassinated without presenting any evidence whatsoever, we should view that with great sobriety about the implications for our country. the idea that you do not give people the chance to respond or even to see the evidence against them should be shocking to all americans. >> you are listening to and watching jeremy scahill, on democracy now, author of "dirty world as a battlefield" and we make that available to you right now for a contribution of $200.

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what happens there? jeremy he tells the story. he went with the filmmaker he worked with in making the film there and they found his family. two of the women in the family, both pregnant, were killed. as well as the afghan police officer, the patriarch of the family, who was trained by the u.s. what the u.s. government tried to put out, and the nato forces tried to put out was that these young women were killed in an honor felt -- honor killing by their family members. the fact of the batteries, they were killed by special forces. that is where jeremy -- the fact of the matter is, they were killed by special forces. that is what jeremy is investigating. we should be concerned about our national security, not to mention morality. when we make decisions about this, is this how we want it to be? jeremy uncovers the story. in fact, there was another of

british reporter that first uncovered the story and a to win after in a press release by name sanney was lying. him in aent after press release by name and said he was lying. military took video on their cell phones. and jeremy and rick were able to download this video. that is part of this film. it is astounding. the u.s. soldiers dug the bullets out of the winning, because you could trace those bullets back. ultimately, this story got too hot. yes, they had gone after the british reporter and said he was a liar for daring to say it was a western force that had gone after this family, that he was simply anti west and anti- american. hendrik got the actual footage. -- jeremy and rick got the actual footage appeared they had to announce that they were wrong, that was actually special forces.

the admiral,ut of the head of the special forces, coming to offer an animal sacrifice to the family in apology. and a photograph, despite the best efforts of the u.s. military, got out. you have the military denied a that anything to do with it. you have the top u.s. officials going to apologize. this is the power of going to wear the silence is, of bringing back these stories. dark.s not remain if we can shed a light, if we can show what is happening, we can decide what we want to happen. that is the power of the independent media. it is also why president obama is cracking down on journalists, going after their phone records, whether we are talking about fox or seceded press. -- associated press.

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>> hello, i'm john cleese. do you realize that native peoples are largely responsible for the survival of the planet? yes, because it's their forests that are still managing to offset some of the greenhouse gases from the major polluters like us. but although native peoples have the smallest ecological footprints, they unfortunately manage to suffer the worst impacts of climate change. it is their islands that are sinking, and their glaciers that are melting, and they are not happy about it. soon, we will be hearing directly from some of them, as almost 3,000 indigenous delegates from around the world struggle to have their voices heard at the united nations permanent forum on indigenous issues. so, settle back and take a deep breath, we