07/08/13 07/08/13 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] >> from pacifica, this is democracy now! i have -- the u.s. and other countries are saying this is a military coup, that we are coming out to say it is not a military coup for you and -- coup. >> tension source in egypt following the military's ouster president mohammed morsi. at least 42 morsi supporters were shot dead outside the army barracks in cairo were morsi is reportedly being held. we will speak with sharif abdel kouddous in cairo, then host a discussion on the future of egypt. nick arauca in venezuela offer asylum to

national security agency leaker edward snowden. to thenounced governments of the friendly nations of the world that we have decided to offer the international humanitarian right younglum to protect this snowden from the persecution that has been unleashed from the most powerful imperialist in the world, against a young man who only spoke the truth. >> we will speak with the guardian's glenn greenwald in brazil. all of that and more coming up. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. deadly violence is continuing in egypt days after the military ouster president mohammed morsi. earlier today, at least 42 people were reportedly killed at the military site where he is being detained. the muslim brotherhood said the victims were holding a peaceful sit in when gunmen opened fire, wounding over 500 area did the

victims included women and children. the egyptian military says it returned fire after being attacked by armed assailants. the brotherhood has to announce the shooting as a massacre and is calling for an uprising against the military. today shooting was the deadliest in a wave of violence that has left dozens killed in over 1000 injured since morsi was forced out of office last week area did we will have more from egypt with democracy now! correspondent sharif abdel kouddous after the headlines. russia lawmakers are encouraging national security agency whistleblower edward snowden to accept asylum in venezuela after an offer by venezuelan president nicolas maduro. military parade friday, maduro contrasted his asylum offer to snowden with the u.s. refusal to deport former cia operative who was wanted for the bombing of a cuban airliner that killed 73 people. >> who is the terrorist? a government like us who seeks to serve the young snowden,

figure of humanitarian asylum from persecution by the american empire or the united states government that protects with a confessedylum murderer and terrorist who is wanted by venezuela for the bombing of the cuban airplane in 1976. >> bolivia neck arauca have also expressed their willingness to grant snowden asylum. nicaragua have also expressed their willingness to grant snowden asylum. snowden came after an airplane carrying bolivian president morales was rerouted to austria after france and portugal target from their airspace over false suspicions that snowden was on board. >> if it were necessary, i would close the was embassy in bolivia. we're not in need of u.s. embassy in bolivia. we do not need its its pretext of cooperation or diplomatic relationship area did they come

to conspire against us from inside and out. >> and the latest of snowden's disclosures, glenn greenwald revealed this week in the nsa systematically has tapped into brazil's telecommunication network and intercepted collected and stored the e-mail and telephone records of millions of brazilians for years. the brazilian government says it has deep concern over the report and has asked u.s. embassy for an explanation. we will have more with gwen greenwald later in the broadcast. the nsa's wholesale gathering of u.s. on records was enabled by previously unknown decision by the foreign intelligence surveillance act court. under the patriot act, businesses can be forced to turn over customer's records of investigators can prove they are "relevant to an authorized investigation care co. the wall street journal reports in a series of order stating back to the mid-2000s, the fisa court, , endorsed an expansion of

the word relevant to mean an entire database of records on millions of people. in its twows, this leading critics of nsa surveillance, ron wyden and mark udall, confirmed the expansion of what constitutes relevant is what they've meant a long accusing the government of a secret interpretation of the patriot act. protests were held across the u.s. on the fourth of july to protest war lesson sweeping government surveillance. called by a new group restore the fourth, a reference to the constitutional protection against illegal search and seizure. hundreds turned out in dozens of cities including san francisco, los angeles, new york city, and washington, d.c. the electronic privacy information center is filing an emergency petition asking the supreme court to halt their collection of phone records. the group says their suit is the first to directly challenge the authority of fisa courts. the rise the collection phone data under the patriot act.

nsa spyingry over continues, the u.s. postal service is under scrutiny for surveillance program of its own. the new york times has revealed the has been carrying out a male isolation control and tracking program, which photographs every piece of mail and system. around 160 billion envelopes, packages, and postcards were documented last year. the contents are never read without a warrant, but they allow investigators to learn key information including names, addresses, return addresses, and postmark locations. the information was reportedly used to nab the suspect recently accused of mailing ricin-laced letters to president obama and new york city near michael bloomberg. leslie james pickering, a former activist with the earth liberation front who now owns a small bookstore in buffalo, recently learned his mail was being monitored after surveillance order was accidentally delivered to his door. sayral aviation officials

the plane that crashed in san francisco international airport on saturday was flying too slow to make a landing. two people were killed and scores were injured when in from seoul nes jet it as the wall and then skidded for hundreds of the before catching fire. >> we need to take a closer look at the raw data on the flight data recorder as well as corroborate what that with radar and air track it -- air traffic information. we're not talking about a few, we're talking about a significant amount of speed below 137. roleiana airlines has its that mechanical failure and is focusing on the pilot, who reportedly had little experience flying a boeing 777 involved. 10 people were killed when a float plane crashed in alaska. no survivors were found.

at least five people have been killed and more than 40 missing after transferring crude oil to raid -- derailed and crashed into the center of a small canadian town. dozens of buildings were set on fire and destroyed. the canadian prime minister said the town looks like a war zone. see, i once again, i did have visited a site. for people who are not here, it looks like a war zone. part of the downtown has been destroyed. it is really just terrible. there has been loss of life, as we all know, and so many people are missing. >> the train had apparently been parked without an engineer when it rolled downhill, coming loose from the tracks entering -- rushing into the town. in a statement, greenpeace canada said the jerome and highlights the dangers of unregulated oil shipments by train. ring p said

the incident came as activists and indigenous groups in the western canadian province of alberta wrapped up a 2 -- day -- to-day march to a knowledge the damage of tar sands oil manning on the land. the group of 70 mostly european retailers has agreed to allow safety inspections at the bangladeshi garment factories within nine months. the inspections, as part of a landmark safety pack adopted following the april collapse that killed 1129 garment workers in the bangladesh capital. number of major u.s. retailers have refused to sign onto the safety agreement agreement, including walmart, gap, and target area did defense attorneys and islamic leaders are urging the obama administration to suspend the force-feeding of hunger strikers

at guantanamo. the u.s. military says it plans to acknowledge from it on on by only force-feeding the prisoners at night. in a legal filing, attorneys for for prisoners with the human rights charity urge the u.s. government to agree to a court back to create ensuring the protection of the prisoners religious rights. in a video released by reprieve, the hip-hop artist and actor formerly known as most def voluntarily undergoes a force- feeding similar to those at guantánamo. hea disturbing sequence, screams for help before the force-feeding estopped. >> please, stop, stop! stop, stop it! stop! please, stop, i cannot do it. >> at least 40 of guantanamo's estimated one hundred 20 hunger strikers are being force fed.

wisconsin has become the latest state to impose new restrictions on the right to abortion. on friday, scott walker riley signed a measure that would require women to undergo an ultrasound and here aspects of the fetus describe before obtaining an abortion. the bill would force abortion doctors to obtain admitting privileges at local hospitals am a step that can be impossible in part because some hospitals oppose abortion. the law is said to take effect today, but planned parenthood federation of america and the aclu have filed suit seeking to block implementation. the group's lawsuit says the measure would force two of wisconsin's remaining for abortion clinics to shut down. republican lawmakers in texas meanwhile are reviving their attempt this week to push through legislation that would shut down nearly all of the states abortion clinics and ban abortion 20 weeks after fertilization. defeated attempt was in a historic filibuster led by texas state senator wendy davis last month. for investigative reporting has revealed nearly one hundred 50 female prisoners in california were surgically

sterilized without required 2010. approvals from 2006- there may be roughly 100 additional cases dating back to the late 1990s freed prisoners reported being coerced into the sterilizations by medical staff. one woman said a prison doctor " maybe feel like a bad mother if i did not do it turco such sterilizations require approval from's top -- top medical officials, none was called. former new york governo governor eliot spitzer will run for city comptroller in the upcoming civic elections. he was forced to resign as governor in 2008 over his patronage of a prostitution ring. before then, he served as new york state attorney general where he was known as the sheriff of wall street for his pursuit of prosecutions and investigations against the banks. defense attorneys for george

zimmerman have began presenting their case after prosecutors wrapped their side on friday. zimmerman faces second-degree murder charges for the killing of trayvon martin, an unarmed african-american teenager. on friday, trayvon's mother and older brother told the jury that avoids briefly heard screaming for help on a police phone call was trayvon's. is he yelling help? >> yes. did you just heard gunshots? >> yes. >> ma'am, that screaming or yelling, do you recognize that? >> yes. >> who do you recognize that to be? >> trayvon benjamin martin. >> i didn't want to believe it was him. that is why during that

sure -- i i felt guess listening to it it was cloudy by shock and denial. i really did not want to believe it was him. >> defense attorneys later called zimmerman family members to testify they believe the voice was george zimmerman's. the trial continues after the presiding judge rejected a defense motion to dismiss. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. at least 42 supporters of ousted egyptian president mohammed morsi were shot dead and hundreds were wounded earlier today at a sitting outside the military military barracks where morsi is reportedly being held. the egyptian military said it opened fire after military -- members of the muslim brotherhood tried to storm the republican guard. survivors of the attack said the army began shooting while they were praying and staging a peaceful sit in. >> i saw people coming at me, so i looked over my shoulder so i

could run. when i faced back to the front, a tear gas canister hit me in the face. blood was coming out of my face, so i lay on my back. a soldier hit me with the but of his rifle on my leg and said, we have to clean the square of all of you today. >> today shooting comes five oustedter the army president morsi and suspended the constitution following days of mass protest led by the youth tamarrud.roon -- adly mansour, the head of egypt's supreme constitutional court, was sworn in as the interim president on there's day until new elections are held. members of the muslim brotherhood have vowed to resist what they see as a military coup in crackdown on members of the brotherhood. or see another top members of the brotherhood have been attained since wednesday.

travel bans have been placed on many other brotherhood leaders. the military also shut down the newspaper and four television stations including a station run by al jazeera. we go now to cairo where we are joined by democracy now! corresponded sharif abdel kouddous. his most recent piece is called, "what led to morsi's fall -- and what comes next?" you can hear his podcasts reports of events unfolding on democracynow.org. sharif, talk about the latest news out of egypt. we haven't spoken to you since morsi was forced out. well, i'm just coming back from the scene of a bloodbath in cairo today. the official count is at least .2 people killed, 300 wounded many were killed with live ammunition. i spoke to many eyewitnesses. they all say the attack began prayert the end of dawn

where pro-morsi supporters are .olding a sit in this attack happened in kind of a splinter sit in near the headquarters of the republican guard where many morsi supporters believe the ousted president himself is being held. the attack began at dawn. when this is a began with tear gas. they said it was unprovoked. following the tear gas, it was live ammunition and shotguns. i spoke to many doctors at field hospitals who say many of the are head and chest wins, which indicates soldiers were really shooting to kill. the military has says two of its soldiers have been killed, dozens wounded from the six critically. saying what been croaked the attack was

protesters trying to storm the headquarters of the republican guard. both of these sides have competing narratives right now. detained 200 protesters who they say are armed. we will have to see what the real nature of events are, but you have to remember, this is the same military that killed 27 unarmed protesters just on the street behind me in october 2011, and also denied wrongdoing or denied involvement whatsoever, despite very clear evidence to the contrary. it is the same military that has tortured protesters, conducted frigidity test on women, -- virginity tests on women. i think we have to put this all in context of what is happening.

but this has really staying the political atmosphere more than it already has been an polarized both sides. the morsi party, the ultraconservative party, the only islamist group really participating in this new army- led transition, has suspended talks with the inter-presidents to name a new prime minister. the interim president himself, adly mansour, was the head of the supreme constitutional court, announced a few minutes ago he is forming a committee to investigate today's events. the muslim brotherhood has released a statement calling for an uprising, an intifada, in response to what happened today. this comes on the heels of a number of days of violence that follows the ouster of mohamed morsi on july 3. we saw at least 40 people killed in those days before today, more

than 1000 injured. four of those killed were also at the republican guard, morsi, when troops opened fire when the supporters got to close. morsi supporters marched on friday to different parts of anti-morsis where supporters, especially near tahrir square, are heavily based. this led to clashes and a lot of anti-morsiters -- protesters were killed. there was a very angry funeral the other day after four men from the neighborhood were killed there when morsi supporters marched through there, they were killed with live ammunition. really, this is an escalating situation. and one that is dissenting into a spiral of violence and richard duchenne. yesterday we saw massive rallies both in tahrir square and the

presidential palace who were supporting the ouster of mohamed morsi, but also [indiscernible] supporting the ousted president. the coming days will be very telling. it was a very bloody, bloody day , bloody morning in cairo today. >> we got word this week and albert day was named as the new prime minister or the interim prime minister, but then with the opposition, that was changed. and you talk about the significance of what is happening in the leadership? >> as we know, the interim president is adly mansour and we are waiting to see who will be cap to be the new interim prime minister, who will be a very important job to do with the day-to-day governments of the od.ntry in the interim peri

the states news agency reports elbaradi was tapped to be the head. a few hours later, the presidential spokesperson denied the claims. it appeared the ultraconservative party, part of this process, said he would withdraw from the process if baradi was then prime minister i'm essentially issuing a veto over the process. rumors floated last night he could be named some sort of vice that ant, and rumors social democrat would be named prime minister. i think these are leaks coming from above to test the waters to see what would be acceptable for it -- acceptable. elbaradi's name is still on the table.

millions of signed petitions against mohamed morsi have been collected, saying they would stand behind the choice of baradi and would not accept any other person. we'll have to see how these political developments go forward. the interim president and the national opposition leaders have called on the muslim brotherhood to participate in this process, to be a part of this transition moving forward. a muslim brotherhood has firmly rejected both invitation and said the reinstatement of mohamed morsi as president would be a precondition for talks. protest as well at in different parts of the country. it is a polarizing situation and a difficult situation, especially after today, given dozens of people were killed on the streets of cairo. have they responded to the killings this morning or as well

the arrest warrants for muslim brotherhood leadership? i'm sorry, i did not hear? responded to the killings this morning and in the last days as well as the arrest warrants for the muslim brotherhood leadership? well, i have not seen a response today. they may have released a statement. a statement was released condemning violence and calling for an investigation. we will have to see what happens. there has been a lot of support for the military by many people who were taken to the streets to protest against mohamed morsi. there was this kind of flirtation going on between the army and protesters with helicopters flying overhead and people cheering wildly as they flags the army dropping on protesters and repeatedly

army jets flying in the sky, painting the egyptian flag and colors and drawing hard over turf year. tahrir.ng a heart over i think it is important to remember there are still significant portions are what we call the heart of the revolution, the core activist who rose up against the military when they lead the transition mubarak. the ouster of they continued to be critical of the military. as i said before, the military's abuse, torture a protesters and killing of protesters in the interim period. if we look at the context of what militaries getting involved, the military enjoys a vast economic empire in egypt, something up to 30% of the economy a controls.

producing everything from bottled water to fertilizer to to pasta. done -- while it did strike a political pact with the muslim brotherhood that granted all of its autonomy in the constitution, also toowed generals safe exit holding them accountable killing of protesters, that pact began to come apart as political instability threatened the complete state collapse and threatened to really rapture their core interests. i think that is why the head of the armed forces eventually did thisin and facilitate coup, which was a coup, but was the sole attended on the back of a popular uprising, and we witness the biggest protest in egypt's history on june 30 against mohamed morsi. >> sharif, we want you to stay

with us. we're going to to have a wide our nextiscussion in segment. sharif abdel kouddous, we will have a link to his piece called, "what led to morsi's fall -- and what comes next?" back on egypt in a minute. ♪ [music break]

>> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. international response to the ouster of president mohammed morsi in egypt has been mixed. the african union suspended egypt to to what it described as unconstitutional change of government. at in washington, d.c., the white house has refused to call the ouster a coup. in a statement released saturday, the white house said -- meanwhile, the editors of the wall street journal praise the ouster morsi. they editorial, th

wrote -- to talk about egypt, we're joined by michael waheed hanna and also we are joined by shadi hamid. his recent opinion piece for the new york times was entitled "emoting democracy in egypt." , yourl waheed hanna response to what has taken place in egypt? >> we begin not now, today, but in a series of issues leading up

to june 30. it is important to realize by the time we get to june 30, egypt has very few options to have a safe exit, to have an orderly resolution. it is that series of mistakes and hubris that i think mostly lies at the feet of mohamed morsi it is brought us to this point. i think after june 30, morsi was irreparably damaged leader, not only had he seen unprecedented public protest, a new uprising against israel that attacked the number surpassed that write down the, but he lost control of the the state and continuing as president i think was untenable. i think the honorable step would have been to resign. i think that was the one way out. that was the way out for egypt in terms of preserving the country's social fabric and avoiding bloodshed. i think we have seen since that time self optimal outcomes and

once that perhaps might usher in further instability. thosenot isolate decisions. , your response? >> no one should act surprised by the violence we saw earlier today. at least 43 unarmed protesters had been massacred, mostly from the brotherhood and other supporters of morsi. this kind of thing is intrinsic to a coup. you cannot support up to and then afterward say you don't want the results of the two. what they do is provoke a crisis of legitimacy. one part of the country considers the new president to be legitimate, at newmont sort, and the other of the country that maintains that president morsi is the legitimate president and commander of the armed chiefs. because there is no political

process, there are no elections, the constitution has been suspended, there's no organized organized political process through which to resolve that fundamental crisis of legitimacy. so inevitably, there is going to be violence. those of us who were against the crew were saying that day in and day out the last week and would behat a coup dangerous. historically, they lead to either civil war, civil conflict, military dictatorship -- we are supposed to learn from the lessons of the past, but watching this, we are making the same mistakes. we saw similar events in nigeria in 1992 where the military there in generic the military coup to an all elections that brought islamists to power. >> i think there are a couple of points very important. the violence we saw today is not just intrinsic to a coup, but intrinsic to how egypt security forces have operated

continuously under mubarak and under the previous military rule, and crucially, under the hobbit morsi read this is not new. -- under mohamed morsi. this is not new. to try to co-opt the police force and use that mode of repression in growing instability and protest against him. this violence, yes, nothing new, d, awe saw in port sai police rampage that killed over 50 citizens. following that, we saw mohamed morsi praising the police force. yes, this is nothing new, but it is intrinsic to the egyptian state, not necessarily something out of the blue. think aboutant only algeria's also think about all the ways in which this is different. , the islamists govern muslim brotherhood was in power. what we also saw was widespread mobilization against morsi that

includes conservatives and muslims and even in his time of support, sunamist began to fray and peel away in party.m of the noor it is a very different fact pattern. i don't think we should expect in algeria scenario, because i think these are very different situations. >> can you respond to that? also, al jazeera reporting the military's best economic interest in need for one of the secrets is not really a secret, analysts have predicted the egyptian military controls anything from 15% to 40% of the economy. shadi hamid? >> there are a couple of things here. first of all, in algeria, i mean, what happened was a military coup. of course there are major differences, but i think we can also try to learn from what so that thealgeria

international commodity and the egyptians themselves can start to reduce the polarization that is going on. michael made some valid points about morsi's 10-year being a disaster. it was. but that doesn't justify a military coup against the first democratically elected government and no one can pretend that was going to go smoothly. i should also note there is something unprecedented about this. michael said there is nothing new about the military killing people. that is true, but what is new, this is the first massacre against the muslim brotherhood 1954 the 1950s, since under gamal abdul nasser. this never happened under mubarak and in that sense, this will have a powerful symbolic effect and it will be very difficult to turn back from this . how do you convince the brotherhood to reintegrate into

the political process and participate in upcoming elections when their blood is being spilled? for thate hope yesterday, but after the events of this morning, it is going to be very, very difficult. >> i share some of those concerns. the brutality of the egyptian security forces, police and army included, it is terribly worrisome for the future stability of the country. i think one thing we have learned about egypt post-the barrette, is that this cannot work henceforth. it produces its own instability. i don't approach this scenario lightly. i thought for quite some time that egypt has been on the cusp. we have seen signs of a society breaking down. i'm not going to lay that all on the foot of june 30 and the uprising. i think that is been the case for months. we sell public lynching of shia

citizens in the street following bosh we saw public lynching of shia citizens in the street. this is in need of reconciliation and a halter the dehumanization going on. but i think that began long before june 30. >> what about the issue of being namedradei and then they step back from naming him as the prime minister? he was the nobel peace if was running for president. if he does not win -- he does not win, but after military coup, he is named because of the full office party, they pull the name back as they object. >> yes, the so lobbyist party, the second largest, obviously is playing a crucial role in his very important for this transition. because they broke away from morsi, called for early elections while they did not participate in the protests themselves, they did validate the transition set out by the

military. so they have essentially something like a veto. figure.controversial >> because? box he is seen as a leading force of reformists. he has been critical of the muslim brotherhood. it's inflexible in his political demands. he has become a that noir for them. i think it is probably a good thing he does not fill the slot a prime minister. beyond that, we have a broader issue that has plagued egypt since the fall of mubarak. this lack of even threshold levels of consensus has meant nothing has gotten done. the country has been paralyzed. systemic issues of reform, whether they be security sector reform, economic reform, town ability and transitional justice -- none of these things have

gotten done. unfortunately, no near-term prospect for that to happen now. >> what was the flashpoint for this, just the first anniversary of mohammed morsi becoming president? this has been building for some time. we have also seen a sort of coalescing a very [indiscernible] group. the groups that led the initial uprising from mubarak, also figures that supported the regime. then you have people coming out for the very first time, economic scarcity and deprivation are taking a toll. yet mobilization by the urban poor, rural constituencies, geographic dispersions of protests which produce something quite unprecedented in egyptian history. >> shadi hamid, we are just getting word that as a result of the massacre that took lace this morning, the ultraconservative so lobbyist, the islamist,

suspending its participation in efforts to form an interim government. what is the significance of this? >> it is very important because the noor party was the only islamist party that was part of this post-morsi coalition and it was important for the military to point to the noor party and say it is not just liberals or leftists, we can also have islamist is part of this new coalition. now that they're leaving it, that undermines the argument. perhaps more problematic for the toitary is noor might decide take to the streets, not the leadership, but certainly the rank and file. any of whom have been uncomfortable watching one of their fellow -- many of whom have been uncomfortable watching one of their fellows be deposed. we could perhaps see them joining streets in some fashion to support morsi's cause, if you will. >> let me put that question to you. party pulling out,

they were the one standing with the military leader saying, yes, islamist stand with this coup as well? >> it was a testament to the alienation of the muslim brotherhood, the fact that only have they alienated the revolutionaries come and not reconciled with any of the former regime members, but also alienated those within the islamist current. they lost that support, they would go so far as to essentially validate the ouster. they have suspended their participation, not fully withdrawn, so there might be some chance of their return, but obviously, theare important to this whole set up. crocs i want to turn to a comment of the muslim brotherhood. this was a comment made by morsi's muslim brotherhood party , a spokesperson told abc this week and all the signs indicate what happened in egypt was a coup. understand what

naivety can behold a person to ingredients of a coup and not see the coup. military people shooting civilians. it is every ingredient. what else are people waiting for? >> the muslim brotherhood has also rejected dialogue with the new leadership. this is a senior brotherhood leader. >> everyone knows who is effectively running egypt is al- sisi and not the so-called constitutional court. we are facing a military coup, which we will not accept and not deal with and not sit to negotiate with unless they correct this crime that is not committed only against president morsi or the brotherhood and freedom of justice party, but against the will of the people which was expressed in the ballot box. , yourhael waheed hanna

response? >> this has been a very controversial issue for egyptians. this is a military coup. just a coup, he was a popular uprising. i think for those who participated, there was a negation of agency. it is important to put those together. it is not one or the other, it is both. complement --y complicated scenario. but the military could not and would not have happened without the mass mobilization that preceded it or you -- receded it. >> shadi hamid, where do you see this going? what do you think needs to happen now that the government has been removed but now the massacre today has taken place ?et g >> there is no major consensus. there isse now because

no electoral process, there is no political system whatsoever, really. we have an interim government, an interim president who has full powers back by the military , and no real accountability to the people. i come back to this issue, how do you reintegrate the muslim brotherhood back into the political process? they still represent a big portion of the egyptian public area did they cannot be made to disappear. they cannot be eradicated as some seem to want. so bring them back. as i said earlier, it is very challenging because how will they give up their legitimacy claim? they have been telling their supporters the past week that morsi's legitimacy is worth fighting and dying for. >> i want to interrupt because we are about to lose sharif in cairo. quickly, the issue of the press in al jazeera and other news organizations being shut down at this point? well, it is a worrying

development. havein opposition leaders called for them to be reopened. it is important to realize when we talk about this issue of a coup and popular uprising, is what happened is similar to what mubarak's ouster. the uprising ended at the military forcing mubarak out. morsi wasence was elected. this revolution doesn't fit into a nice, neat box in a few days, but an ongoing revolution. the ballot box is the way the muslim brotherhood sees it. the revolutionary seated in a different way. if you continue to act in an authoritarian way, continue to allow the police to kill and torture with impunity and not hold them accountable and yet give them promotions, you know

alienate completely all of the political opposition and use a very thin electoral mandate to push through a very divisive legislation, at some point in this revolutionary moment, do you lose that legitimacy? i think we saw increasing anger on the streets, increasing mass mobilization site, they did on june 30. it is important to keep these things in context when we have this kind of going back and forth is it a coup or not. technically, yes it is a coup. when you compare it to the ouster of mubarak in that context, i think the people need to ask morsi loses legitimacy? angered so many different sections of egyptian public life, that we saw a biggest uprising that we have seen possibly in egyptian history area did at is the question you have to ask here. going forward, there is no good options and i think there was no good option mainly because of

what the muslim brotherhood did during the rule and the way the military managed the transition following mubarak's ouster into a a lesser extent, the way the political action acted throughout the transition, which is also gosh sometimes in a opportunistic way. >> we will continue to follow the story, what is happening in egypt. sharif, thank you for being with us from cairo, his latest piece in the nation magazine, "what led to morsi's fall -- and what comes next?" we will have a link on democracynow.org. i also want to thank our guest, michael waheed hanna, senior fellow at the century foundation as well as shadi hamid, director of research for brookings doha center. his most recent piece will be on -- will be linked on democracynow.org. when we come back, we go to glenn greenwald, the latest around nsa leaker edward

snowden. stay with us. ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. show by looking at the international saga unfolding around edward snowden, the former u.s. intelligence contractor who the documents

about u.s. secretiveness and global surveillance programs. country tothe latest join venezuela and nicaragua in offering snowden asylum. the decision came shortly after an airplane carrying bolivian president evo morales was rerouted to austria after france and portugal barred it from the airspace false suspicion snowden was on board. bolivia's defense minister later blamed the from her alice force landing in austria. >> as a justified protest, i would like to tell you, my brothers and sisters, that we will give him asylum if he asks for it. he is being persecuted by his compatriots. we are not afraid. i was being accused of transporting that agent who discovered and informed how the u.s. government illegally controlled us.

i only knew about the ex cia agent named edward snowden through the media. i want to tell you as a justified protest, if you legally requests it, we will give him asylum so that we may get information on exactly how the united states government controlled us. let the world know that the politically persecuted, to those who are persecuted for denouncing espionage carried out by the united states, i want the united states government and some european countries to know that we will give him asylum. nicaragua and venezuela announced they were also willing to grant asylum to snowden. president ortega of nicaragua said

president maduro of venezuela made the announcement during a ceremony to celebrate his country's independence day. i announced to the governments of the friendly nations of the world that we have decided to offer the international humanitarian right to asylum to protect this young snowden from the persecution that has been unleashed from the most powerful injury list in the world against a young man who only spoke the truth. >> cuban president roh castro made his first public statement on snowden support for countries that offered him asylum. castro did not clarify if cuba would formally grant asylum to snowden. >> we back the sovereign right of the public of venezuela and bolivia in all the states of latin america to give asylum to those persecuted for their ideals were struggles for democracy according to our tradition. >> edward snowden has asked for

asylum in more than 20 countries, a number of which have already rejected his application. while snowden remains holed up in a moscow airport, news outlets are continuing to report on his leaks. how greenwald reported on the nsa has systematically tapped into the brazilian telecommunication network and indiscriminately intercepted, collected, and stored the e-mail and telephone records of millions of brazilians for years . the story follows an article last week detailing the nsa's mass and indiscriminate collection of the electronic you medications of of germans. for more we go to brazil where we are joined via video stream by when greenwald, columnist for the guardian, who broke the story to begin with area did -- to begin with. welcome back read that talk about the revelations over the weekend, and yours about the country that has offered edward snowden asylum, what happened to evo morales, the bolivian

president who was forced -- whose plane was forced down in austria because it was believed snowden was on board. >> i think u.s. government has been its own worst enemy in this entire episode. the idea they would pressure european allies to block the plane from flying over their countries and force it to land rather dangerously in the country it had no intention of landing in simply because they wanted to deny edward snowden the well-established right to seek asylum, is a really radical and extreme effort that smacks rogue status. i think that is why you're seeing so much support for snowden in the latin american populations. >> and what you have revealed as you continue to reel information you got from edward snowden when he met with him in hong kong and before the documents that he has released.

partnered with the brazilian daily newspaper, one of the largest in the world, to report the nsa is systematically tapping into telecommunication systems of brazil and intercepting, storing, and monitoring millions upon millions of telephone calls and e-mails of ordinary brazilians. it was taking place in the u.s. as well. last night on television him a -- it has become quite a political controversy. they are demanding responses from the united states government. there are several more stories to come today and tomorrow about nsa spying on brazil and more broadly, latin america. >> talk about the significance of these continued revelations and what surprised you most.

you are an american citizen but live in brazil. what surprised you about these revelations around brazil? before that, the revelations around the spying on european union and the commity that has -- communityny that has angered so many? >> the recent edward snowden came forward, the reason we're reporting on this so aggressively is because, in this is not hyperbole but a pure reactor description, the nsa is in the process of total secrecy with no accountability of constructing a global ubiquitous asveillance system that has its goal the elimination of privacy worldwide, that there to be no electronic communication that is beyond the reach of the u.s. government area did they are attempting to collect and store a monitor all of it and they can innovate it anytime they want no matter who you are aware you are on the planet. this has very profound implications for the kind of relationship the u.s. has with

the rest of the world, the way in which individuals feel free to communicate with each other and use the internet. significance of the latin american countries being the only one so far to offer asylum? i was just speaking to a chilean economist who was saying they're outraged by the information that is come out on spying on his intergovernmental bodies and countries and yet which european country is offering asylum to edward snowden. you just mentioned you will be revealing information more broadly about spying on latin america. can you give us a preview? >> the eu leaders have been completely disgraceful pretending to be angry them blocking airplanes on the behest of the u.s. government to prevent the person who revealed the saw from getting asylum. as i said, this is a worldwide ubiquitous surveillance net area did they are sweeping up all electronic medications they can, not just in brazil.

pretty much every continent in latin america is targeted by this old indiscriminate collections so that people in those countries have virtually no privacy. seriousthis will have repercussions. >> times reporting the nation surveillance court has created a secret body of law giving the national security agency of data on agency the power to amass vast collections of data on americans while pursuing not only terrorism suspects, but also people possibly involved in nuclear proliferation, espionage and cyber attacks, officials say. your response to that? >> it shows what a complete joke nsaargument has been from defenders in the democratic party that there is robust oversight on the surveillance. a completely is warped and undemocratic institution, this court that meets in complete secrecy, were

only the government is allowed to attend. unlike previously when it was confined to issuing individual warns about particular targets of terrorism, now it is issuing sweeping, broad opinions, defining the contours of our constitutional liberties, of the government's ability to spy on us. it is being done in secret. what kind of a country has a court that defines the constitution in total secrecy and forces us to live under truly secret law in which the government can do all sorts of things to us that we are not even aware of that is claiming the right to do and being given the power to do it? i think the new york times article highlighted what everyone is done about the joe called the fisa court, but it is good to see the new york times doing some reporting on the stories. fox when greenwald, i will ask you a few questions as we wrap up the broadcast and have it on democracynow.org. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new yo

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