[captioning made possible by democracy now!] >> from pacifica, this is democracy now! i think reasonable compromises has to be a keystone of all this efforts. and no negotiations will be tough, but i also know the consequences of not trying could be worse. >> israel and the palestinian authority have resumed peace talks for the first time in three years of the two sides seem as far apart as ever.

we will speak with scholar norman finkelstein and yousef munayyer. withopean envoy has met mohamed morsi, who has been held incommunicado for almost one month. open,had a friendly and very frank discussion. he was.ere i do not know where he is, but i saw the facilities he had. after 72sit comes days people were killed when egyptian police opened fire on a muslim brotherhood rally. we must speak to sharif abdel kouddous. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. inerdict is expected today

the trial of bradley manning. manning faces up to life in prison for the most serious of the more than 20 charges against him, aiding the enemy, after leaking 700,000 documents to wikileaks in an attempt to spark a national debate about foreign policy. ofer nearly two months trial, the judge said she plans to announce her verdict at 1:00 p.m. eastern standard time today. after the verdict, the trial enters the sentencing phase, where the prosecution and defense will present more arguments. israel and the palestinian authority have resumed peace talks for the first time in three years. negotiators sat down for a dinner hosted by secretary of state john kerry in washington. the talks will be overseen by martin indyk who was named as

the new special envoy to the middle east. we will have more on the talks after headlines. ousted egyptian president mohamed morsi has been allowed to meet with european union more than a ousted month ago. he and the muslim brotherhood have continued to call for his reinstatement after 72 people were killed on saturday after police opened fire on a brotherhood rally. we will have more from egypt from sharif abdel kouddous later in the broadcast. the fbi has rescued more than 100 victims of forced prostitution and have a numerous people.

the assistant director of the fbi's criminal investigative division spoke on monday. >> sex trafficking among children remains one of the most prevalent, violent, and unconscionable crimes in the country. despite challenges, those who exploit children should know that we and this team will continue to seek them out and burn them to justice. >> in northwest pakistan, dozens of militants attacked a prison overnight and freed roughly 250 prisoners. at least 12 were killed as attackers, many dressed as police, fire and explosives, fired machine guns, and cut the throats of some prisoners. in florida, seven were injured in a series of explosions at a blue rhino propane plant this morning. launched workers have an historic series of strikes as

part of an escalating nationwide call to unionize and earn wages of $15 an hour, more than double the current minimum wage. actions are taking place in seven cities including chicago, st. louis, detroit, kansas city, and milwuakie, as part of a coordinated campaign in the largely non-union industry. in new york, hundreds of employees of a fast food chains walked off for the day and rallied, we cannot survive on $7.25. a group of immigrants known as the dream 9 remain in an arizona detention center air attempting to re-enter the u.s. to protest the administration's record deportations. while many had been compelled to leave the united states because of current policy, three others chose to join them in mexico and

accompany them home. all nine are being held at the lloyd detention center. some say may have been placed into solitary confinement. >> on monday, congressmember mike honda released a letter signed by members of congress calling on president obama to release the dream 9.

the senate has voted 93-1 to confirm james comey as fbi director. kentucky republican senator rand paul cast the only dissenting vote after ending delays over questions about the fbi's domestic drone use. fory is known reauthorizing the bush administration's warrantless spy in program. the aclu has criticized him for backing what it terms some of the worst abuses of the bush administration, including waterboarding, warrantless wiretapping, and indefinite detention. he told a panel that he now views waterboarding as torture. new zealand is rebuffing a spyrt that showed u.s.

agencies assisted the new zealand military in collecting metadata on the phone calls of jon stephenson and his associates while reporting on the occupation of afghanistan last year. the new zealand defense minister said a review of the claims is under way. if confirmed, the report could show spying techniques shown by the national security agency have been used against journalists. a new poll appears to show increasing public skepticism about the nsa's surveillance policies. the poll found for the first time since polling began a decade ago people are more concerned about protection of civil liberties than about protection from potential terrorism. according to the poll, 47% of people said their greatest concern about anti-terrorism policies is that the government

has gone too far in restricting civil liberties. over all, 56% said federal courts fail to provide adequate limits on the telephone and internet data swept up by the government. pope francis has issued unusually candid remarks about lgbt people, saying they should not be marginalized in society but maintaining that homosexual acts are a sin under catholic teaching. while on a flight back from brazil, he responded to reporters' questions about a supposed a lobby at the vatican. everyone writes about the gay lobby. i still have not found anyone that gives me an identity card with gay on it. when someone find themselves with a person like this, they need to make a distinction between being a gay person, and

that of being part of the lobby. all lobbies are not good, that is the bad thing. if the person 6 god and has good will, who am i to judge him? >> he also rejected the idea of ordaining women priests, saying that the door was closed. >> thousands flooded raleigh, n.c. for the last moral monday protest following the end of the state legislative session. the crowd included flocks of teachers from across n.c., protesting a state budget approved last week that slashes funding for public education. more than 920 people were arrested over the course of 13 organizations. over the past couple of months,

the north carolina led a fletcher has ended unemployment benefits to 70,000 people, rejected the medicaid expansion under president obama's healthcare law, and passed new descriptions. on monday, north carolina governor pat mccrory signed another sweeping package of anti-choice measures tucked into a motorcycle safety bill. among other restrictions, the law bans abortion coverage in the state health insurance program and directs state officials to issue new standards for abortion clinics that many be unable to meet. demonstrators held a 12-hour vigil across from the governor's mansion and planned a second one today. they accuse the governor of reneging on a campaign promise not to approve new abortion restrictions.

more than 100 people were arrested at one moral monday this month. in florida, a 60-year old african-american man is preferred -- recovering from bullet wounds after sheriff's shot him it in his own yard even though he was unarmed. roy middleton was rummaging for a cigarette in his mother's car when deputies arrived and responded to a call from a neighbor who suspected him of burglary. deputies claim that middleton launched at them with something metallic in his hand, but he claims he merely showed his hands and keys with a flashlight attached. rounds, fired 15 shattering his leg, and riddling the car with bullets.

hundreds gathered to protest the fifth shooting of an 18-your teenager saturday that was caught on video and went of viral online. the video shows sammy yatim standing inside an empty streetcar holding a knife while police and their guns on him. he appears to remain inside the streetcar and several yards from the police outside, nine shots are heard in less than 15 seconds. police then approach yatim and deploy a taser. he died from the gunshot wounds. the officer involved has been placed on paid suspension. apple is facing a new round of accusations about labor abuses in china. following reports of employee

suicides and excessive hours at plants run by foxconn, apple has increased its orders to another supplier, pegatron, but the group china labor watch, said it found violations at three pegatron factories including underage labor, insufficient wages, and shifts amounting to 70 hours a week. those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. >> i'm aaron mate. palestinian authorities have resumed peace talks for the first time in three years. ahead of the meeting, john kerry urged both parties to make reasonable compromises. >> going forward, it is the

secret this is a difficult process. if it were easy, it would have happened a long time ago. it is no secret there for that many difficult choices lie ahead for the negotiators and for the leaders, as we seek reasonable compromises on a tough, complicated, emotional, and symbolic issues. reasonable compromises has to be a keystone of all this effort. i know the negotiations will be tough, but i also know the consequences of not trying could be worse. talks broke down in september 2010 after palestinians insisted israel stop expanding west bank settlements. israel has ignored the demands, and have since built thousands of homes. the palestinian authority held their position until this past week when john kerry won a

pledge to release over 100 palestinian prisoners, some held for over a decade. the talks will be overseen by martin indyk, the former u.s. ambassador to israel who was named as the new special envoy for you -- middle east peace. tzipi livni says that the u.s. will take the lead in negotiating talks. is some hope. theye, when in israel, will see the first meeting and understand that we should not forgive -- give up hope. it is reachable. we need to do it because it is in our mutual interest. the understanding with the united states is that in order allowceed we will

secretary carry to speak on behalf of us. despite her assertion that details of the part talks will be kept private, palestinian president abbas spoke to journalists and said that their demand for israeli withdrawal to 1967 is not negotiable. illustrate that the two sides are as far apart as ever. >> for more, we are joined by yousef munayyer, the executive director of the jerusalem fund. in new york, we are joined by norman finkelstein, a scholar and author of many books, including "beyond chutzpah: on the misuse of antisemitism and the abuse of history," and "knowing too much: why the american jewish romance with israel is coming to an end." let's go to washington first.

i want to ask about the issue of these talks happening right now, yousef munayyer. what is wanted by israelis and palestinians and how it is being run in washington. >> absolutely. first, to put this in context, we have to remember israel has no greater ally in the world than the united states. it relies heavily on the united states economically, diplomatically, and militarily for support. the united states has a good bit of leverage over israel. it also has leverage over the palestinian authority. it provides a significant amount of money for its annual budget. it is not miraculously at the united states is able to bring two clients to the table. the question is why it has been so difficult to do so and the answer is a failure of u.s. mediation over the years time

and again what we should be if theseor here -- talks have any hope of moving forward in a positive direction -- is the way that the u.s. handles its role as the mediator. in the past, unfortunately, instead of acting as an enforcer of international law, enforcer of is really obligations and previous commitments, united states has only acted as an enforcer of israeli positions in the negotiations. so if you are on the palestinian end, there is no reason to keep going back to negotiation that only act as a cover for israel's colonial activities in the west bank. why theis your sense of stocks are taking place right now, norman, and where are the various parties at? havee palestinian do not much choice.

their economy was almost in a crisis. minister, the prime left office, and obama basically said, if you do not go to talks, we will not pay the bills. on the israeli side, they had an immediate motive, and that was to deflect international pressure on them. the israeli press was reporting, as is true, in order to deflect pressure, you have to pretend to be negotiating. the israelis did not panic but saw it as a harbinger with the european union issued its guidelines, which would not have a huge impact, but which threatens israel's ability to continue their annexation of palestinian territories. if you look at the last three

presidencies, clinton, bush, and then obama, in each of the three presidencies, at the end of their eight-year terms, there were attempts to negotiate a settlement. in the clinton presidency, he wanted to redeem himself after the monica lewinsky scandal. in the bush presidency, the negotiations came in 2008, and the purpose was pretty clear. condoleezza rice, secretary of state at the time, was looking for a way to redeem her role as secretary of state in what was the end of their administration, a complete disaster. no obama faces the same situation. he knows that the presidency has been a disaster. he is a narcissist. he is now hoping that he can pull a rabbit out of the hat with the israel-palestine conflict, and redeem, as clinton

hoped to do and condoleezza rice, to redeem his record at least on foreign policy. each of them has a different motive, but we have to be clear, at this time, circumstances are slightly different. no. 1, the arab world is shattered right now. opponent ofrincipal the collaboration of the palestinian authority, has been reduced to a novelty because it put all of its eggs into the brotherhood basket in egypt. the palestinians are more depressed, despondent, despairing, and the politicized than ever, and the palestinian authority is now more impromptu the nine states than ever. there is a hoax, a possibility that this time they may be able to push through the israeli terms of settlement. the terms of settlement are

clear. israel has said over and over again, we are building a wall. the wall is our final border. that consists of annexing 10% of the west bank, fragmenting what remains of the west bank, annexing some of the most arable soil, critical water resources, the hub of palestinian life, east jerusalem, and there will be some international consortium to solve the refugee problem. there is a possibility they could ram it through this time. >> speaking to israeli army last year, martin indyk expressed doubts that talks could produce a peace deal. >> i am not particularly optimistic because, as part of the matter, is the maximum concessions that this government would be prepared to for four short of the

minimum requirements. so it may be willing -- possible to keep the talks going, but i find it very hard that they will reach an agreement. >> yousef munayyer, could you talk about who martin indyk is, the former ambassador, and also, norman finkelstein, the despondency of the palestinians? about me say something that quotation. that was from last year. he was talking about a then- right wing government, which has since become even more so, more beholden to the interests of religious nationalists, subtler parties that are now in the current government. the israeli government's position, the maximum they are

giving to give has shrunk. martin indyk, the question about him is not really about him as an individual but what he represents when it comes to american mediation of these negotiations. he is someone who clearly has a pro-israel background, advocacy and work on his resume. it is clear what his positions have been in the past, who he has associated himself with. but the interesting thing is, you could never imagine the united states appointing someone in that position as a special envoy to the negotiations who has the same resume, but from a palestinian end. this speaks to the point that the administration is prepared to defer to the concerns of pro-

israel interest groups in the united states when it comes to their mediation of negotiations. if anyone had any hope for a different u.s. position toward negotiations this time around suggests that is simply not the case. >> in 2009, there was a full- scale assault in gaza. at the time, martin indyk had come up with a book, "innocent abroad: an intimate account of american peace diplomacy in the timee east" based on his as ambassador. in the debate with martin indyk on the main obstacle to peace, norman finkelstein argued it was the u.s. and israeli refusal to recognize basic palestinian rights. when he said that palestine had made the right concessions on issues, indyk refused to respond. >> the important thing is on all

those questions, palestinians are willing to make concessions. they are willing to allow israel to keep 60% of the settlements, 80% of the sellers. they were willing to compromise on jerusalem. they were willing to give up on the right of return. they made all the concessions. israel did not make any concessions. how is this rendered in martin indyk's book? bold rendered as barack's and courageous initiative for peace, and the palestinians rejecting it. constantly he turns reality on his head. >> what norman has done is andly distort my argument loaded it up with his usual paraphernalia of legal resolutions and so on. if people want to understand

just how difficult it is to make peace, then i hope that they will read for themselves rather than accept his propaganda. i askedg the debate, indyk for his advice to president obama on how to conduct future middle east peace talks, and he said the u.s. needs to be mindful of cultural differences with the arab world. >> the american role is indispensable. we need to be wiser, more flexible, we need to understand that there are huge differences between us and them, and we need to pay a lot more attention to their culture, their values, and their politics. rather than assume that they are like us. i know that is a general proposition, but from that can

come the getting of wisdom when it comes to the details of peacemaking. >> yousef munayyer, can you respond? failure ofgreatest u.s. mediation has been the inability to put pressure on the israelis. people often say, you need to pressure both sides. the reality is, the united states already supports it a brutal military occupation of palestinian territory. the palestinians are under enough pressure to begin with. even the concept of a two-state solution requires a palestinian concession of about 80% of palestine. that is tremendous to begin with. but it is the israelis who are building on palestinian territories. if you are going to get a territorial compromise, it is is really behavior that needs to change to get a border drawn, for instance, to get agreement on jerusalem, an agreement on

refugees, if we're talking about a two-state from march. but israel and is in a position of power. instead of using leverage to change behavior, the united states has only emboldened israel in negotiations, allowing it to demand a maximum and never along the palestinians to get what is the minimum required by international law for a just solution to this dispute. >> norman, in your debate, you made the point that palestinians had made the bulk of concessions. given that, what are your expectations for how the process will go? backedisraeli position, by the united states, is clear. if you look at the maps that were presented in the last stage of the camp david negotiations in 2001, and you look what is on

a wall now, israel was asking for about 9.2% of the west bank. absorbent 9.5% of the best bank. indyk look in the book, outlined what he believes should be the solution. so what is the solution according to him? the route should take of the wall. israel will get jerusalem, east jerusalem, the urban center. the palestinians will get what they call the suburbs. the refugee question, palestinians will get the right of return to the palestinian " homeland." and the solution will leave palestinians with nothing. the palestinian side was reasonable. they presented negotiations

which said we will allow israel to annex 2% of the west bank, but on that 2% or more than 60% settlers.llers -- we will let them keep 60% or more in place. they did their best to be reasonable and within the framework of international law. israel gets 2% of the west bank, palestinians get 2% of israel, a one-for-1 swap. the israeli-american position, one that indyk formulates, and is just an echo of the israeli position, is that you will leave the west bank fragmented down the middle, in the north, they move -- lose the water, the most arable land, they lose east

jerusalem. there is no palestinian state without east jerusalem. called greaters east do so for some -- jerusalem, that account for 40% of the economy. there is the palestinian state if israel annexes east jerusalem. the problem is how this will all be sold. people do not know the facts, and it is frustrating when you are watching what is happening. israel claims it wants all the west bank. that is what it formally claims, that is its theatrical position. and then it will say that we are making a gut wrenching concessions. wantll give up 90%, all we is 10%, and it will cast the

palestinians as being so unreasonable. look at the gut wrenching concessions that israel is making. in fact, i think it will probably sell. i spoke to a palestinian professor who is a friend, and i and, they only want this for obvious reason, they do not want the arabs. believe it or not, this wall is twice the size of the border. do you know why? because it takes this sinuous route to keep the land in and the arabs out. so walden east jerusalem cuts right through east jerusalem and puts 55 palestinian arabs out. they can not want the whole west bank because of the famous phrase of the prime minister. we want the dowry, we do not

want the bride. we want the land but not the people. >> it is the 50th anniversary of the march on washington next month. we are speaking at a time when the civil-rights movement is alive right now. are there any lesson that a palestinian on by the movement could drop from the history of civil rights in the u.s.? complains about the united states putting pressure on the palestinians and not israel. for me that is a given. the palestinians are now demonstrating any power, so of course they will be clobbered by the united states and israel. the question is, can you change the power equation? there are realistic possibilities for change that equation. the most important thing is, number one, using the instrument

of international law to isolate israel and public opinion. number two, you need massive palestinian civil disobedience the ideaortunately, reduce pressure. the civil rights movement, martin luther king, his original strategy was to try to melt the heart of the southern races. that was a classic got the strategy. then he realized that you would never melt the hearts of these people, so what do you do? we will look for the most repressive, the most violent southern sheriffs, people like joe clark in selma, alabama, eugene bull connor, in birmingham, and confront them

knowing that if we do, they will unleash the dogs, fire hoses, horses, and then you will create an independent national community which will impose its will on the south. that strategy, to me, is workable among the palestinians. yousef munayyer, your final comments? >> israel has been trying to sell for a long time that its position is temporary. only that claim keeps the apartheid label off of the negotiations. up until last week when they announced plans to build a respite -- massive railway network throughout the west bank say that its occupation is anything but temporary and is, in fact, permanent.

these negotiations of the israelis to say, actually, our occupation may still be temporary, and create a passat to cover their continued colonial activities in the west bank. once these negotiations fail, and i believe they ultimately will, that the saw will fall, and once again, the international community will be looking at what is essentially a an apartheid system and the continued isolation of israel. more and more states around the world will move toward punitive policies to get israel to change its behavior, knowing full well that washington will not be able to deliver any sort of agreement. >> yousef munayyer, thank you for being here. norman finkelstein, author and scholar. his most recent books, "knowing too much: why the american jewish romance with israel is and "whatan end,"

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>> "shawaree el quds fairuz" by may nasr. democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the crisis in egypt. after being held incommunicado for every or weeks, mohamed u.n. was allowed to meet envoy catherine ashton. she was flown to an undisclosed location to meet with morsi. >> he was well, we had a friendly and open, very frank hours ion for the two saw him. i saw where he was. i do not know where he is, but i saw the facilities he has.

warm discussion. as you know, i have met with him many times before. i sent him good wishes from people here and he asked me to pass wishes back. of course, i have tried to make sure that his family knows he is well. >> shortly after she met with mohamed morsi. 72 people were killed when egyptian police opened fire on a muslim brotherhood rally in cairo. more than 100 people were wounded. >> talk about the recent developments, we go to cairo to speak to sharif of del produce. talk about these latest developments from the u.s. envoy meeting with morsi, to the killings that took place over the weekend. more than 70 members of the

muslim brotherhood killed. is the first person to meet with morsi for the past two weeks. we do not have any confirmation outside of what the military has said. she was very tight-lipped about morsi, what he was saying, and she had a press conference with mohamed elbaradei and was quite another conversations. the military have questioned him every day about the inner workings of his presidency, the brotherhood. they have played recordings and asked him about certain things. they may be looking to build a larger case against the ousted president. oncourse, this meeting came the heels of this massive day of blood shed on saturday morning.

the official count is now up to 80 people dead. not all brotherhood members, but they are all pro-morsi supporters. more than 1000 wounded. i was there in the aftermath, a lot of people killed with live ammunition, shots to the head, neck, chest, a lot of people shot in the back. bywas the deadliest incident security forces since mubarak's ousting. it is important to realize this was committed by the police, not the military. it was overseen by the interior minister who was appointed by morsi himself and we have to remember, the same into minister who oversaw the killing of -- whenn power in january police gunned down 50 civilians. at the time, morsi's response

was to go on television and think the police for their efforts. on in this newt interim government. about 10 human rights groups have called on him to resign. for the interior minister to be held accountable for the assault that occurred on saturday, but also accountable for those killings earlier this year. they have called on the muslim brotherhood to reject political violence and declared incitement, people that are part of the sit-in to turn in any weapons they may have. we are also seeing the security apparatus and the army really exploiting this large wave of popular disdain for the muslim brotherhood, to carve out an equally -- if not more

repressive political order than the one that preceded it. the interior minister, in his press conference after this attack on saturday, said that they are reconstituting two departments in the interior ministry to combat extremism and oversee political and religious activity. stated the former name of security which was supposedly disbanded and renamed national security. many argue that these things never left, but they are re- legitimizing these political practices and the entrenching themselves deeper into egyptian life. a very realhave threat of more in pending violence. the interior minister has said they would forcibly break up the onewo large sit-ins, in cairo year the attack, and

another large one in renaissance square in the is the -- giza. with the police and army using these violent tactics, the prospect of more bloodshed is very real. the city ofo go to ismailiya, where there have been clashes of morsi supporters and police. this was during a funeral for a supporter who was killed. his mother said that he was killed tried to help others. we cannot do anything believe our fate to god. my son went out with a medical squad and was killed. where are the people? where are the people that told him to go down and be with the people? they are the ones that killed my son.

>> there have been two mass killings since morsi was ousted. in both instances, they said the police were acting in self- defense. what is your assessment of these claims, and are these killing doing anything to turn public opinion? >> the first one was by the army out cited the republican guard headquarters. they and called themselves of any responsibility. the second one was by police outside of the sit-ins. they deny any responsibility for these attacks. some morsiave been supporters firing birdshot, some video evidence of that, but by and large, these amounted to an excessive use of force by security forces. these are some of the bloodiest days we have seen in egypt. unfortunately, there has been

little sympathy among large walks of the populace for this crackdown. at least those opposed to morsi before june 30, there has been a vicious media campaign painting the muslim brotherhood as a terrorist organization, using this language of a war on terror. been a lot of army were shipped, a cult personality behind him. he asked for a mandate calling upon people to go to the streets and to give a mandate to confront violence. that night was when the attack happened. it is important to understand that. on the other side, these attacks are helping the cohesion of the pro-morsi citizens,

bringing in more islamists into the fold who are joining these sit-ins. of aready saw two leaders smaller islamist party arrested the other day. it creates the solidarity within those groups. finally, there is a small but burgeoning movement calling themselves the third square, distancing itself from tahrir square, which then become very military in its rhetoric, distancing themselves from the pro-morsi rallies, saying that we are both against morsi and toi, and are trying reconstitute the goals of the january 25 revolution. >> we have to break, but we will be calling back to this conversation. stay with us.

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>> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. there were no immediate steps to suspend u.s. assistance to egypt. >> the united states condemns the bloodshed and violence in cairo and alexandria. the have claimed the lives of scores of egyptian demonstrators and injured more than 1000 people. our sympathies are with the family that have lost lives, as well as those injured. it is the view of the united states that egyptian authorities have a legal and moral obligation to respect the right of peaceful assembly and freedom of expression can violence not only sets back the process of

democratization, but will impact regional stability. sharif of delicate use is with us in cairo. produce isnd don't with us in cairo. kouddous is with us in cairo. lawyers found a legal justification to avoid having to cut off $1.5 billion a year in military aid. it goes on to talk about for the obama administration, and the problem is not simply its relationship with the egyptian military, but with israel, who is trying to nurture a new round of talks. >> the u.s. has been walking this tight rope to figure out a way to keep a aid going to

fulfil its national security objectives, but coming under pressure as the military has conducted these crackdowns on the muslim brotherhood and more to supporters. we saw the first indication of the can modest reprimand by delaying the delivery of four f- 16 jetfighters. exercises are still going forward later this year, and aid seems to be coming. ,he new york times mentioned the obama administration, by calling it a coup, by law, would have to suspend aid, so they have made this determination that they do not need to determine whether it is a coup or not, sidestepping that requirement. sisi,the issue of general can you talk about what some are

calling a personality cult around him? >> we are seeing his vote goes everywhere, you can buy posters of him, t-shirts. people praising him as the savior of the egypt. they are trying to paint him have some sort of savior from the brotherhood. it is a dangerous and national istic sentiment being drawn up. it is helping to usher in this week constituted securities state that really never went away but is looking to establish re-legitimize itself, this time with popular backing.

hass a dangerous time that displayed a lot of the young revolutionaries who have fought against excess of authoritarian regimes. first against mubarak, then the supreme forces, and then the brotherhood. now we seem to be regressing into something that could be more regressive than what preceded. >> the e.u. foreign policy met with the, also humanitarian group tamarod. about theey asked us solution, the solution starts from, number one, admitting that june 30 was a revolution, admitting the legitimacy of the road map. secondly, presenting those involved in the shedding of egyptian blood, those who were issued arrest warrants by the public prosecutor to quick and

just trial. third, clearing out the public squares. only then will restore the political process. we will write a constitution that lives up to the egyptians expectations. we will not write another sector and constitution. the upcoming constitution will not differentiate between a citizen and another citizen according to religion, race, sex, or that the city. ethnicity. >> the tamarod movement has shown itself to sign with the military, not critical of protesters being killed, only critical of the muslim brotherhood side. it has to be said, pro-morsi supporters have conducted pilots of their own as there have been multiple allegations of torture and abuse. they have marched through neighborhoods and have killed local residents, leaving those neighborhoods seething with rage.

many of these groups have not held the military and police accountable at all for these mass killings that have taken place that marks some of the bloodiest days in egypt in the last two years. it is this kind of polarized atmosphere that we are in. groups like the third square movement, who are against both of these authoritarian regimes, have found themselves to be in a minority, cominger fiee attack, trying to find the direction forward right now. finally, mohamed elbaradei, the vice-president, what is he saying? is there a division within the military, those who were engaged in the coup? >> it is difficult to tell, he gave a tepid, and condemning

violence, but some are speculating as to whether he may step down and disassociate himself with the captain, but has not given any indication of doing so. the longer this interim government stays in place and does not hold people accountable for committing these masculine is, if further de-legitimizes them in the eyes of the international community, and also here at home. >> thank you for being with us. we will lead to your articles at thenation.com. at 1:00 eastern time, the decision of the court-martial of bradley manning will be handed down. you could go to our website for information at that time, what the verdict is. of course, we will be covering it fully tomorrow. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. email your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693, new york, ny 10013.