thehilip crowther, one of 160 "france 24" correspondents around the world. genie: for 60 minutes live around the world, i am genie godula. these are the headlines. a car bomb explodes during morning rush hour in istanbul. at least 11 people have died in the blast targeting a police bus. voting gets underway in new jersey, one of six decisive primaries today. they come just hours after delegate counts show hillary clinton has already secured the democratic nomination.

kicks off its largest ever joint military exercises with nato, set against the backdrop of the west's worst sendoff with russia in years. also coming up this hour, is there an end insight to france's train strike? as passengers face a seventh day of disruption, management has made a new offer to unions. we will have the details in our business update. one of france's top tourist attractions gets a magical makeover. more on those artistic changes on the way. first, our top story live from paris. genie: at least 11 people have been killed in a new bomb attack in istanbul. the car bomb targeting a turkish police bus went off not far from

a main tourist area this morning. close to 40 more people are reported hurt. for more now on this, let's correspondent,a jasper mortimer. what more can you tell us about what happened there this morning echo jasper: -- what happened there this morning? jasper: a car packed with explosives exploded. it was detonated by remote control. it was not a suicide bombing. carrying police personnel was passing. at least seven of the fatalities are policemen, and at least four of them are civilians. however, the death toll could rise because the istanbul , said thatasip sahin three of the injured in hospital are in critical condition. it was clearly aimed at the police, but as i said, four of

the fatalities are civilians. genie: the turkish president has already gone to visit some of the victims from this morning's attack. what did he have to say about this so far? jasper: unfortunately for those who want peace in the country, president erdogan gave the usual tough line, saying we will continue our fight against terrorism until the end. but erdogan is wise enough to know that there is no military problem to the kurdish in turkey, and at the moment -- to the turkish problem in turkey at the moment, although no one has claimed responsibility. there are a lot of turkish people who would like him to resume the peace process with

the kurds, which would help undermine the other major militant faction that has been detonating bombs in public places in turkey in the last 12 years, the islamic state group. because the principal opponent of the islamic state group, both in northern syria and in northern iraq, have been the kurdish forces. genie: jasper, thank you. jasper mortimer reporting from ankara. to the united states, where the polls have opened in the east for what could be a decisive day in the presidential campaign. you can see people in new jersey going in to vote area early this morning. another big state among the six going to the polls today is california, but hillary clinton already got a boost going into the primaries. she is now passed the milestone of 383 delegates securing her status at the presumptive -- as

the presumptive democratic presidential nominee. she is set to go ahead with donald trump -- she is now set to go head to head with donald trump. >> he is the man behind the figure. he has a crucial assignment, determining when a delegate has -- when a candidate has enough delegates to secure the party nomination. >> i am in charge of tracking the number of delegates each presidential candidate has for the national convention. >> on monday, the ap's count showed hillary clinton has 800hed the magic number, more than her opponent, bernie sanders. clinton: i have got to tell you, according to the news, we are on the brink of a historic, historic, unprecedented moment.

but we still have work to do, don't weigh? -- don't we? numberer says the latest will not stop him. he says candidate -- he says delegates can change their minds before the convention. bernie sanders: my request to those people who are prepared to stand up and fight for real change in this country is to please come out and vote. >> tuesday's vote march 8 years the eight -- marks years to the day that hillary clinton was true her candidacy against barack obama. washington, the indian prime minister is preparing for a major honor. narendra modi is due to address a joint session of congress.

monday he already laid a wreath at arlington national cemetery. this is his fourth official visit to the united states, and it comes as the countries are working to strengthen ties. today is also the last day for brits to register to vote in the upcoming in-out referendum. june 23, they will decide whether to pull out or remain in the european union. tore has been a slight veer the remaining cap. british unions have come out in support of the eu, putting the movement very slightly ahead. our correspondent has the latest. >> gauging which way britons will vote in the u k a -- in the u.k. election -- both showed a one-point lead for the u.k.'s remain campaign. a contrast to monday's polls, which showed the campaign for brexit narrowly ahead. conservative prime minister david cameron joined rivals from

liberal democrat and green parties. david cameron: in the real world, our economy is slowing because of the huge uncertainty hanging over britain's economic future. it is therefore unacceptable for them to continue to dodge questions. they are performing and economic commentary on the british people, and we are -- >> the prevailing uncertainties are causing jitters in financial markets, with the british pound monday falling nearly 1% against the dollar and sliding to its lowest level against the euro in three weeks. >> no country the size of the united kingdom has ever left such an integrated economic union. in other words, there is no precedent to look back on and draw some lessons, so we are in

uncharted territory here. >> trade unions are urging a vote for the stake camp, -- for the stay camp. how the pendulum swings on referendum day is likely to come down to voter turnout. genie: poland is kicking off its biggest ever joint military exercises with nato. that is aimed at beefing up regional security. the west is now at its worst stand up with russia since the end of the cold war. our correspondent gave us the details. cannot bele underestimated. we are talking about the biggest exercises involving nato totalies, 24 countries in , since the end of the cold war. not only that, but there are two

other military exercises, u.s.-led military exercises going on in the region. one terrestrial one in the baltic states, one involving 6000 maritime forces from 17 countries in the baltic sea. that gives you an idea of the onitary presence going on the eastern flank of europe at the moment. we will see some spectacular whocises, 2000 paratroopers will jump out of planes today in northern poland. there will be bridges built by engineers across the vistula river. nighttime exercises involving helicopters. quite a lot of activity. is set to boost its security measures ahead of the european football championships -- paris is set to boost its security measures ahead of the european football championships, which begin friday.

extra security staff will be drafted in with more to come. officials have centralized fan zones into one area new the eiffel tower to try to ensure the safety of supporters. elliott richardson explains. elliot: it has been one of the most challenging signs in france's recent history. after november's terror attacks in paris, france has to police one of the biggest sporting events in the world. euro 2016 kicks off friday. will descendfans on the area to watch the action. that it isportant secure as an event as possible. the recommendation for the public, for fans in the stadium's, for those in fan

zones, is not to go to -- >> an additional 3000 troops means 13,000 will now patrol paris and its suburbs during the month-long tournament. i run 100,000 police, security guards, and soldiers are respected to be used around the country. but having endured terror attacks, civil rights protests, and recent flooding, france is feeling the tension. periods a difficult which could hit our country anywhere. i repeat, not only in the fan zone in the stadium, but, yes, i it is significant that we are faced with this challenge. euros begin on friday. genie: haiti is making a new bid to return to political stability, announcing the presidential elections will be held in october. a vote was held last october,

but an independent commission dismissed it as having been marred by fraud. the opposition had condemned the vote. peru,are being counted in two days after that election took place. with 95% of votes counted, it is still too close to call. for now, former wall street skicutive pedro paulo kucyn -- a slight lead over >> this could be the face of peru's ex-president. a former wall street banker holds a narrow lead in the country postpresidential poll. country's presidential poll. , histe trailing behind

opponent -- they say what they want from their leader -- >> i want peru to be a fully developed country. we have everything we need to be a developed nation. but we need a president with character, a real decision-maker. someone with a lot of energy. iowa's new who i would vote for. i thought about the -- i always knew who i would vote for. also hope that education and health will improve. jimori has been struggling to shake off the legacy of her father, alberto. he was convicted of corruption and human rights abuses. the election has brought up painful memories of his presidency, which could cost the young fujimori her election. genie: back in france, one of the country's biggest tourist attractions is getting a major

if temporary facelift. visitors to the palace of versailles will get to see a brand-new waterfall appeared to cascade out of thin air into its grand canal. that is one of several installations put in place by a danish artist. he says he was inspired by the gardens themselves, and the grand water feature that its original creator planned but never realized. bei am trying to itti-thematic, but how does feel when you touch it? what does it mean when you have it on you? experiencing is very much about making things explicit physically. it is about embodying what you think. genie: let's take a look at today's top stories. a car bombings -- a car bomb has exploded during morning rush hour in istanbul. died.st 11 people

voting gets underway in new jersey, one of six decisive primaries today. they come just hours after delegate counts show hillary clinton has already secured the democratic nomination. poland kicks off its largest ever joint military exercises with nato, set against the backdrop of the west's worst stand off with russia in years. time for our business news now with stephen carroll. let's start in france, where there has been some progress in the effort to end this ongoing train strike. stephen: a new effort has been put on the table, to end the strike. 19 hours of talks ended in the early hours of this morning. workers retained conditions like rest periods and holiday entitlements. valls hasster manuel called for an end to what he says is an incomprehensible strike. our correspondent has details.

>> the floods may be subsiding, but the strains -- but the trains are not moving. thes ended tuesday with sncf, withperator, an offer on the table. the cost of the strike is a norm us. it is already -- the cost of the strike is enormous. there is now no more reason to strike. seehe proposal would railway workers keep their entitlements. has signed up for the deal, but the two hard-line groups that organized the strikes appear skeptical. trains are still disrupted, and on monday --

>> the protests aim to show that we do not buy the crumbs left by the government. not -- workers are railway workers are fighting the same fight. --with euro 2016 looting with you wrote 2016 looming, the unions have one week to accept or reject the offer. stephen: that takes us into what is happening on the market. from commentsoost from janet yellen, saying the fed might wait while longer -- might wait longer to boost interest rates. news thatigesting economic growth has been revised up 5% or 6%. the polls over the brexit referendum keep piling up.

one pound trading for almost $1.46. genie: more details have come out about saudi arabia's plan to wean itself off oil revenues. stephen: the transformation plan plans to cut spending on writ -- on wages and triple revenue. the plan envisages a greater role for the private sector, with the goal of 450,000 nongovernment jobs set to be created by 2020. all of this a bigger plan to diversify saudi arabia's economy by 2030. the idea is to cope with lower oil prices. while a general tax on goods and services will be introduced, income taxes have been ruled out. >> the government will not impose income taxes. int was clearly announced the vision. it was explicit there would not

be any move to impose income taxes on citizens. more of the day's business headlines. the american phone network t-mobile is expected to offer 10 million customers shares in the company in an effort to cement subscriber numbers. they would have the opportunity to earn more if they refer new customers. t-mobile says it is a thank you to loyal clients. shell is trying to confirm investors that it is a good deal. "the playbook -- about $200 million was paid for .his mansion

they will be throwing twinkies over the gate to try to get them to leave. buzz feed has canceled a major advertising contract because of donald trump. it ended an advertising deal with the republican party in the united states. politico estimates the deal was worth $1.3 million. in a statement to staff, the chief executive said the truck campaign was directly opposed to freedoms of their employees. he added we do not run cigarette ads because they are hazardous to our health, and we will not accept trump ads for the exactly the same reason. genie: stephen carroll, thank you for today's business news. it is time now for the press review. donald trump: wow, this is amazing. with: catherine viette is us on set to take a look at what the papers have been saying today. lots of buzz today about hillary clinton finally clinching the number of delegates she needs to get the magnetic nomination.

catherine: the superdelegates over the weekend have put her at the magic number, 2383. several primaries will be held in the states -- new jersey and california amongst them. the washington -- "the washington post" is looking at the map behind her path to the nomination. the delegates are coming out of the primaries, and the superdelegates are free to vote for whoever they choose. however, they do not actually vote until the convention. this has bernie sanders saying it is not fair to count them because it will not truly count until the convention. he has vowed he is going to stay in the race because he might be able to convince superdelegates to change their minds. that is an argument that "the washington post" has labeled as weak as they talked to the delegates and so far none of them have said they will change their point of supporting

clinton. this has "vanity fair asking the big question -- did sanders hand trump the election, and if so, hagan -- if so, can he grasp it back? his determining to stay may be siphoning support from clinton. the article goes on to say that he is sticking around because it maximizes his influence on influencing the party platform, and that while democrats fear a trump presidency, sanders supporters are not real big fans of hillary clinton. when push comes to shove, at the end, it is most likely sanders will tell his supporters to support clinton, and they will do it even if it hurts. it does seem -- genie: it does seem the focus is now shifting to the general election, where it looks like it will be hillary clinton versus donald trump.

catherine: commentator mark green writes, "don't panic, democrats. hillary clinton will beat donald trump." them is concerned the electoral college blue wall -- that is a nod to the democratic color of blue states, insisting there are 18 states in the u.s. when democrats have won six of the last six presidential contests per that would give them 242 electoral votes, a big head start on the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidential election. we are also looking at likely voters. the only category trump has been leading his angry white men, and he is pulling terribly low with women. -- with single women. "newsweek" is reporting that they do not always seem to care when candidates tell the truth. catherine: it is an interesting

look at polling. most say trustworthiness is important, but when looking at the political landscape in america, they found it is more polarized than it has been in at least two decades, and this means people who are committed to one clinical party to see their candidate as more trustworthy, more honorable than the opposition. in this case, if neither candidate is inspiring much trust or likability, it could mean a local -- it could mean a low turnout for the general election in november. wouldxt president that we likely be electing is the one we hate less. genie: donald trump seems to be embroiled in november -- to be embroiled in another scandal. a judge of mexican descent -- trump has said he cannot make a fair ruling because of this. "the wall street journal" says that trump has had a lot of

scandals and none of them seem to stay, but this one has staying power. it is slightly different. it goes to the question of ethnicity and his racial policies. he is also attacking one of the branches of government when he is hoping to head another branch of government, so it calls into question whether or not he would be able to respect the constitutionally enshrined ideas of the powers of separation. finally, this case is about a personal legal matter. his attacks on other things have been subject that other americans are worried about. genie: thank you so much. we will leave the there. dice for watching. do not forget, for a closer look at all the press review that was -- you can always check out the website, france24.com. you ever wondered about those green boxes that line the send river in paris? if so, you're in luck.

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announcer: this is a production of china central television america. walter: music is one of the greatest equalizers. it can bring together people from different social and cultural backgrounds. the result is a shared humuman experience that transcends all boundaries. this week on "full framame," we'llllt innovavators who arere connectig the world through their music. i'm mike walter in los angeles. let's take it "full frame."

david foster has been called maestro to the stars. he wears a lot of labels. he's a musician, record producer, songwriter, composer, and arranger. he's collaborated with some of the greatest superstars in music. his friends in the music industry know him as the hit man. somehow, everything he touches turns to gold or platinum and he knows how to spot talent that audiences love. he's discovered and worked with some of the music industry's greatest singers, including celine dion, michael buble, josh groban, andrea bocelli, and so many more. [music playing] dion: ladies and gentleman, david foster. foster: 1,, , a-1, 2, 3,3, 4! lynn: ♪ what you think, uh... i think i love you what you feel now i feel i need you what you know now oh, ho ho to be real now ah, yeah ♪ foster: i think millions of people are g gonna love this.

charice: ♪ anymore foster: you saw her here first. walter: david's won 16 grammy awards, including 3 for producer of the year, an emmy award, and has had 3 oscar nominations for best original song. david foster joins us now. welcome to "full frame." foster: thank you, michael. it's great to be here. walter: what's it like looking atat all of ththat? fofoster: well, i've seeeen it l before. you know, it's--it sort of plays up-- walter: it's a rerun. foster: yeah. it plays up here in my head all the time. walter: but you did say, "wow, boz scaggs." why? foster: yeah. well, boz in particular was a great--little story, personal story, because we wrote this beautiful song called "love, look what you've done to me" for the movie "urban cowboy." but when we got together to write--it was in my little writing room in the valley--and he just sat there with his pencil for...it seemed like 3 hours, literally an hour or 2. and i would play and i was trying to impress him, and nothing. and then i came up with that intro to "look what you've done to me." and he was just sitting there and he goes, "that! that's what i wanna write to." but it took a couple hours to get there. he was not overly demonstrative

with his--with his feelings, but what an artist. walter: you know what's interesting. i was mentioning to you before we did the interview. i--i, you know, i remember skylark. i remember that song. and, you know, g going down memory lane and you can watch anything on youtube now. and i was telling you, i watched "midnight special"-- foster: yeah. walter: that song, i mean, it-- what is it about a song that transcends? what do you think was about that first big giant hit that you were associated with that it can go on for decades? foster: well, of course that lyric is spectacular, written by my friend dave richardson who was a policeman at the time and was writing it about his wife, his ththen wife. the lyric is spectacular. the melody is spectacular. and right from that first bu-pum, pum, boom, it's like it just grabs you. and that's a song that just everybody loves, you know, and 42 years later, um, they're still loving it. i performed it last night in new york. walter: oh, my gosh. foster: and people loved it. walter: so, um, what--what is it? i mean, you know, there's so many great performers out there. somebody can come in front of you and like bang out a tune. what--what is that one thread

that goes through all these artists that you've been associated with, where you can see, ok, this person has what it takes to be a star? foster: well, you're assuming that i get it right every time, and, yeah-- walter: i'm right. foster: because you talked about the, you know--yes, i've written maybe 100 hits, but i've had 900 misses, totoo. so, we don't talk about that. and yes, there's 16 grammys, but there's 33 losses. and so, you know, whether you're--my cup may be half full of arsenic, i don't know. but--what was your question again? oh, yeah, how do i know? walter: yeah. foster: well, the thing that i'm attracted to is great voices. so, you know, when i see a celine dion for instance--we're going back 25 years--i mean, like, it was so obvious to me that she was so incredible. it's like the whole room just stopped, and all i could hear and see was this one person and all the noise around me just stopped. and, i mean, you can't deny that voice. you can love her or hate her, but she has an amazing voice. and whitney--

i mean, not that i discovered whitney--but i mean, when i first worked with her, it was like, she came into the studio like a racehorse. it was like, just killed it. or that clip where we saw charice, this little filipino girl that we found when she was about 14 years old. i mean, hitting those high fs, that's really hard to do. so, i'm attracted to great voices. um, you can obviously have hit records without being a great singer, but that's just not where i lay. i lay with the great voices. they like me and i like them. walter: you know, i don't know if you've seen this film about-- john cususack's in it. it's about brian wilson's life. foster: oh, i've heard about it. yeah. walter: but, uh, he's in the studio and he's creating "pet sounds," which, you know, everybody says now, it was genius. foster: mm-hmm. walter: at the time, though, everybody is like, "what are you doing?" um, is there something that comes into your head where you're putting something together where maybe everyone doesn't get it and then when it comes out as a finished product, they go, "oh, wow"? foster: well, i certainly remember going into a vault in glendale, and this--it was just

like out of the movies. this guy pulls this tape out, and he goes, "yeah, here it is." like kind of blowing dust off of it. take it back to my studio, and that's where i put together nat king cole and his daughter natalie. walter: oh! foster: anand that--whwhen we pt upup that der and arard nakingng col's ice,e, rorded-d-ike, itounded like it w r record yesterda-u-um, a thehen en i was ab t to puthe two iceses together and makthat wor-- without the chchnolo thahat have todaybyby theay, , 'causus thatasas 20 ars s ag-um, i i thought thatasas a pttyy special montnt. and i dndn't knknowhat ititas gonna reacmimillio andnd millllions of people. i just knw we had done something great. walter: and to create that bridge from that time to this time, it's just amazing. foster: yeah. walter: what was she thinking during that whole process? foster: well, it was her idea actually and--but what she loved was that, yes, he sang, then she sang, then they sang together, and then she answered him, and that was all cool. but the really cool part i think when i came up with the idea and i don't even know how i did it now with 3 tape machines or whatever, of getting him to

answer her as though he was singing over her shoulder and was still with her. so she goes ♪ unforgettable and he goes ♪ unforgettable behind her. that was technologically a big challenge, but we pulled it off. co: ♪ ooh, unforgettabl kingolole: ♪ forgetetble ♪ cole: ♪ ievevery y king cole:♪ ieverery y cole: ♪ndnd forer m mor ki cole: ♪ andorever me e cole: ♪ th's w you'u'll stay ♪ king ce:e: ♪ thahat's hohoyou'll stay... ♪ walter: in fact, you're not just doing fine here, you're doing fine in asia, as we all know. talk to me about how that happened and describe for our audience what's going on there. foster: well, here's the thing about asia. you know, um, they love music in a--in n a differet way than the rest of the world. they think that the people like me that make the music and write the music c and produce the musc are as important as the people that sing it. so, what are you

gonna do if that's the case? are you gonna tour in america or are you gonna tour in asia where they think you're as great as ariana grande or as andrea bocelli? you know, they-- they don't make a distinction between andrea bocelli and myself, because i'm the one that writes his music and produces him. so, that's given me quite a career over there, and they just love music. and they can sing every word to every song in every country. i mean, they're just musos. they'rere all musos. walter: do you mix it up? i mean, who do you tour with when you get there? foster: yeah. well, we--yeah, there's an endless list of people that i can take with me that--because for the artists, it's great. you wanna do david foster & friends tour? ok, well, what does that mean exactly? well, we're gonna go to about 8 countries. we're gonna do about 8 concerts. um, you're gonna get paid very well, and you have to do 3 songs. who the hell wouldn't wanna do that? so michael bolton or peter cetera or chaka khan or boys ii men, who i was just with over there, whatever--they're going like, "so, wait a minute, i could pretty much make the same amount of money as i do

when we have to do, like, 21 songs and i only have to do 3 songs? i'm in." walter: yeah. where do i sign? foster: exactly. walter: i'm on the next flight out. foster: oh, they love it. and also, the camaraderie is great, too, because they're--you know, you get in a bubble when you're touring. and so, you know, they're all in a bubble. peter cetera, when he tours, he's in a bubble, but now he has all these other comrades that he can hang out with. and they're having a great time backstage while the one per--i'm the only guy that has to work all nigigh. but that's ok. i don't mind. walter: you'd like to be the fly on the wall, though, listening to the conversations. i would imagine they're s swapping stories,s, right? foster: boy, would i? could you imagine? "look what foster's doing now, this idiot!" walter: ha ha ha! so, out of all the places you've gone, any that stand out as your favorites? 'cause you've traveled everywhere? foster: um, i can't pick a favorite. i mean, i would say, "well, the audiences in jakarta are the best." but then, i think, "no, manila is phenomenal. bangkok is phenomenal." i mean, they're all incredible. shanghai. i mean, shanghai was a little bit stiff, but the city is so incredible. and i think that china as a whole is just starting to get it and i think it's gonna loosen up

a lot for a lot of performers not just for me, and i want a piece of that. i wanna tour china more, i really do. walter: well, you're talking a lot of people watching there, so... foster: yeah. walter: so, you can get-- foster: i mean, come on. it's the most fascinating place in the world. i mean, you have 5,000-year-oldululture. what do we have here? we have like 200-year old culture, you know. walter: like we're children? foster: yeah. we're not even--we're not even born. walter: toddlers. foster: so, you mix that culture with this young generation that's just burning to bust out and show you what they got. and i also believe that there will be a huge superstar come from asia. walter: well, and you probably spot them because i know you're a judge on "asia's got talent." foster: well, i don't know about that. yeah. walter: what's that experience been like? foster: the "asia's got talent" thing was great. i had 3 incredible co-judges: um, vanness wu, who's born in california but is chinese and lives in taiwan; mel c from the spice girls; anggun who's from indonesia; and all great performers, all great singers. and, um, i had to be the bad guy, you know. i had to be the guy that went, "no. you can't

sing. go away." walter: so you do all of this, and you're a pretty busy guy, but you still have time for the david foster foundation. foster: mmm. oh, thanks for... walter: so t tell me about how that came about anand why it's o important to youou. foster: well, um, thank you for asking abobout that because it is a passion of mine. and, um, there's no bad causes. everybody has a cause and,ouou knothanank god the worlis a--is----full of peoplththat wna h hel you know. i had--wasnvolved personlyly 28 ars s ag my mother askede e to gvisisit sick childt t uclaho w wasrom my hetown n victoriria, itish columbia. d d so ient and viteted heand d alshe wanted tdodo wasee h her sist. . she s gegettg a lilir transpntnt. anso i i fw her sist down, which cosnonothg at that me, 28 yrsrs ago and the okok on e fafacef those twwhwhen ty memet,ike, just hood d me, d i knew was in. d so, w'veelpeped ov a thoand famili now, umwith a the expens, not

the actual operation but all the ancillary expenses that they have to go through for weeks, montnths, sometimes s years. ani don't know if you've ever gotten a letter like this, but when you get a letter that says, "dear mr. foster, thank you for saving my life." that is something that no grammy can trump. nothing can trump that. so, you know, the saying about "you get back more than you give" is certainly true, you know, and i love it and it's a passion and it consumes probably 25% of my time. you know, i lean on all my friends. i have no shame when it comes to my foundation. and this year, we're probably gonna raise $15 million to $20 million. walter: well, you can't trump that and you can't come up with a question that can top that answer, so i'm gonna leave it there. david, thanks so much. it's been great fun. foster: thanks, michael. walter: thank you. foster: appreciate it. and when you said "trump," did you mean--what did you mean? walter: no. i didn't mean that trump. good point, though. coming up next, music and technology merge to help seniors feel alive inside.

when american filmmaker michael rossato-bennett heard about social worker dan cohen, he thought he'd tag along with him for a day and capture his efforts on film. dan was volunteering at a retirement home providing music to people there and achieving astounding results. neither man could have imagined that 1-day expedition would turn into a 3-year journey. that sojourn would result in the award-winning film "alive inside." it would also spark a movement to make music part of the standard protocol at nursing homes everywhere. [music playing] rossato-bennett: and what happens to you when you hear it, when you hear it? man: oh, i f feel good. it's like i got a girl. i want to sy with her.

rossato-bennett: and that is why, together, we're gonna do this one small kindness. we're gonna bring life into the places where it's been forgotten. and together... womaman: whoa! womaman: oh. rossato-bennett: we'll listen. walter: scientific evidence proves music awakens parts of the brain that have laid dormant for years, movement and memories can be stimulated even--even in catatonic patients. michael joins us to share his experiences with the elderly residents he documented in the film, people moved in dramatic fashion by having music brought back into their lives. he's here to tell us why music can have a crucial impact

on aging. michael, thanks so much for joining us here on "full frame." rossato-bennett: thank you for having me. walter: what an experience. i mean, you tag along with dan. rossato-bennett: right. walter: you think, well, "i'll just, you know film this." um, was it almost instantaneous? it almost--it--for those who haven't seen the film, it's almost like there's a key and it unlocks the mind. it's amazing to watch. rossato-bennett: yeah. yeah. anand, um, it--my life changed n the first hour of filming, like, i experienced something almost instantaneously that i literally knew that i had to make this film. you know, i walked--i walked into a nursing home, a big, big public underfunded nursing home. and i walked into a hallway and there were, like, you know, a hundred people lining and sitting in wheelchairs, lining the wall. and this one guy henry, this old black man was in there and he's kind of like this and he--and he'd... woman:enenry.

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[henry vocalizing] woman: ♪ to be with my love ♪ henry: ♪ ah ♪ woman: ♪ i can tatake the p pai♪ woman: when i first met him, he was very isolated and he used to always sit oththe unit witith hs head like this. he didn't really talk to much people. and then when i introduce the music to him, this is his reaction ever since. ha ha ha! woman: ♪ i'm goin' on the outside ♪ henry: ♪ ooh ooh ooh ooh ooh ♪ woman: ♪ i'm going on the outside... ♪ rossato-bennett: henry waking up did something to all of us. woman: ♪ to be with my love whoa, whoa... ♪ rossato-bennett: everyone in the room felt it. woman: ♪ ...the outside gogoing on the outside going on the outsidede... ♪ walter: but one thing we can't see is the guy behind the camera. i mean, what was your rea--was it a smile? were there tears? i mean, because this is

really emotion-charged. rossato-bennett: like, you know just watching that--and i've seen it a thousand times--i am overcome with emotion. there's something about, like, another person, you know coming awake that has been--you know, like if you see your child and they're--somehow they think badly, they think they're a failure, you know, and then you kind of give them a pep talk and they realize that they're good and they just--they just--they fill their self. you know, and i was--i literally had chills going up and down my arms, like, when he was coming alive. because it just--what that means, you know, the idea that, you know, there are 1.6 million people like henry in nursing homes. there's 5 million people with alzheimer's disease in this country, you know, and the idea that we could do something that

would, you know, stir their deeper selves into some kind of aliveness, it's just--it's just totally, like, that is what i have to do. you know, , it was like--it was like, the universe said, "you know, we can help somebody. you know, if you make this film, we can help a lot of people." and so, i knew i had to do it, and it's been an amazing experience. walter: but obstacles--you and i had a chance to talk about this. you're making a film about-- people don't want--they all think, "oh, my god, i'm gonna end up in one of those places when i'm older. i don't wanna see a film like this." rossato-bennett: right, right. walter: but it's so affirming, and yet, it asks some really tough questions about how we deal with the elderly. i mean, we're not--it's warehousing.g. and you even have a woman say at one point that they--the reason why these people are like this is because they keep going more and more inward because of the life that they're living. rossato-bennett: right. like, when you take a human being and

you treat them as an object, as a thing, they-y--they react, you know, they--they suffer. you know, you treat a human as a slave, they suffer. you treat somebody as an object, they suffer. and then when you allow somebody or you honor what they are, who they are, their--their deepest self, it's--it's the way we should live. you know, we should all be honored for this miracle that we are. you're a miracle. i'm a miracle. your viewers are miracles, you know. and we are each a--a perc-- a point of perception of life that can never be duplicated, you know. we--we're all, you know part of this incredible thing called life. and we don't--we don't have enough imagination about what life can be. and you know, that's what i--that's what i got out of this, that it wasn't just the music. it was the music. the

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beauty in these people, in this music. you know, that's why i'm trying to create this movement out of young--for young people that, you know young people should go into these places and experience these human beings and experience them for what they are 'cause they are--they are beautiful things. walter: well, again, you're doing my job for me. let's watch another clip and let's talk about it. hold on. here it goes. rossato-bennett: ha ha! boy: do yoyou remember neil diamond? her name is gloria. she's about 86 years old. me and sophia, my partner, we came here about 3 weeks ago. the first and probably the second visit, the only word she ever said to us was "butterfly." when we walked her out in the garden, she saw a butterfly, and that's all she told us, that one word. then about two lessons later, last lesson we gave her--we gave her the music and that just totally--she started talking to us and she started just saying stuff we never knew how she has a ranch in alexander valley where she grew up.

do you wanna keep listening to this song? she loved to garden. and it was just we learned so much about her through the music, and it's just--it's the music that's helped her so much. [people talking indistinctly] walter: he says it helped her so much, but there's--there's a payoff for this young kid. talk to us about this. it's exactly what you were talking about, you know. there's this kind of frightening element. let's warehouse these people. let's keep them away. but here, you bring teens in. and you can tell just by his face, he's getting a lot out of this. gloria is getting a lot out of this. talk to us about that. rossato-bennett: yeah. i'm so glad you got that. i really am. because, um, you know...i i thik children are under-challenged in our world. you know, we just kind of give them their phones and their television and their games and we say, "we'll see you when you're 18," you know, and then you can join the human race, you know. we very seldom say to children, "hey, there's something you can do," you

know. and when you--there's been a connection between the very old and the very young since the beginning of human times, you know. and when you take the power of youth and age and you take the power of music...music is just this magic. it's one of the first human technologies. you know, it's pre-language. it's the way we create cohesion and family, and it's the way we run for days hunting a--hunting a--hunting an elk, you know as a tribe and our footfalls, you know--boompa, boompa, boom. that's the beginning of music and then our voices. and, you know, like we've been making music probably longer than we've been doing anything else. and now we treat it like it's just some thing, you know, that you download or that some star does, you know, but it's not. it's--it is our heartbeat. it's our heartbeat. it's our connection put into form and,

you know, it's such a beautiful thing and it contains such wisdom. and, you know, that's-- you know, you'll meet scott a little bit later. he, you know he's one of the guys that just came forward and said, "look, i'm--i'm doing something amazing that can help with this." let's--let's do it together and, you know, so i'm--you know, i'm just really happy that a lot of people are getting involved. walter: since i put you in-charge of this broadcast, let's bring scott back in. rossato-bennett: yeah, should we bring in scott? walter: you're the maestro. you did so much of this that--so scott lien is joining us, and he--he's already set you up in a sense. uh, the two of you are connected. um, but talk to me about your creation. explain what it is and why you see it as there's a value proposition between the two of you. lien: yeah. mymy life's mission has been on how to have technology help improve people's lives. and i saw the henry video a few years ago and was inspired. and as we started to build grandpads, music was central to that always 'cause i knew how powerful music is for

seniors. they love music more than our generation. they used to go to the ballroom on saturday night and go dancing. they'd see live music. but unfortunately, the barriers of technology had made it difficult for many people in their 70s, 80s, and 90s to appreciate music. and so, we got together and now we're gonna be able to bring the power of music to millions of seniors. walter: so talk to me about grandpad. and i know you've got--you can demonstrate for us. so walk us through what it is and why you see it as so important. lien: yeah. so, what i saw was the complexities of technology. we're making it hard for seniors. and we all can--and the younger generation uses all their technology, their phones every day. it's central and it's integrated in their life. but the group that needs it most would struggle with it. many would because the technology was not designed for them. so we set out to build something that was designed from the ground up for people in their 80s, 90s, 100s. even anna, age 114, has used a

grandpad--10th oldest human on the earth. and so when you set out and build something just for them and design it for their--all their unique and wonderful attributes, they can enjoy it. walter: so, anna, if she's gonna be messing with this, show us what she would do. lien: yeah, so, um--a couple key things. first off, if i'm--if i'm 90 and have some eyesight and tremor issues, just plugging in a standard tablet is difficult. you know that was designed for a 30-year old. so we designed grandpad that it has built-in wireless conductive charging. i just set it there and it charges. i don't have to plug anything in. this is just for the tv studio. we have a wonderful stylus. when i'm over the age of 90, standard touch screens don't work cause my skin is dry, so we have a stylus that they can use and easily enjoy and see all the wonderful pictures of the kids and grandkids. and everything about the interface is built so that it's simple and safe. and as they

can scroll through and see, you know, pictures and videos of the kiki, grandkids,s, great- grandkids. no passwords,on'tt have to mess with wi-fi.i. all that's there so that they can enjoy the magic of their family and the memories. you know, seeing their wedding photo from 1940, again, brings those memories back. these are the folks that need it the most. they have a lot of time and they're at that stage in their life where they wanna reflect and really enjoy. their family is their legacy. walter: right. lien: it's very soothing for them to be able to see and enjoy all those wonderful pictures of the kids and grandkids. walter: well, you know, what's ininteresting. you use the word miracle, magic, but one of the wowords that we haven't used is misery. and my brother passed away. he had stage 4 cancer. and so, it wasn't dementia, but he ended up in hospice. and they provided all these things--dogs would come in, and massage. it was all fantastic. but one thing they did not provide was music. my brother-in-law created this music, these cds, and he was

telling me--i was on the phone with him, he's like, "oh, man, i'm rocking the place." and i said, "what about the seniors there?" "well, most of them are deaf or comatose. they don't care," and he goes... "the nurses are coming in. they're enjoying it." but it--again, sparked all these memories. it lessened the misery. so it's beyond even people with dementia, although, our director was saying he went into a senior complex. his mom was there. put on frank sinatra, everybody came alive. rossato-bennett: yeah, yeah, it-- walter: so my question is medicine. they have no problems feeding them medicine day and night. why? you know, this seems like such a no-brainer. why no music? uh... rossato-bennett: well, i mean it can't be monetized. ok? if the effect that music has on people with dementia was a--was a drug, if it could be put in the form of a pilanand be drurug,t would be m multiillilionollarr drug, ok? t t musiis in th air, you kw.w. youon''t--you can'buy it osesell i butut i

will tl l you-nd i i c make e prediction n----and guararane that whihin 2 ars, thi- music wille e in every nursing meme. it will be fdeded byhe governme. . it ia, y you knowi'i'makiking littltlshort film on a doctctor, dr. ravivi amin, ok, from hhc in new york. he did a study where he went into his--he's the chief psychiatrist at hhc, and he went in and he gave his deeply--the sufferers of dementia, he gave them the music of their youth, ok, instead of antipsychotic drugs. when he started the experiment, 50% of his patients were on antipsychotic drugs. these are the drugs you give people when they're acting out and you wanna knock them down, you wanna sedate them, you know? and he went from 50% down to 13% with a cost savings on each patient of $400. walter: hmm. rossato-bennett: so he saved us tons of money, stopped using these terrible drugs on these

people, and gave them a better life. and i mean it's--there isn't--it's not a cure, but it's moments of joy. and that's what--that's what this grandpad thing is so cool about, is he's got, like, all this incredible tracking, like, stuff in the background. he can tell what all these people are doing and you can see how often they're excited and doing stuff with it and it's really--it's really cool, right? lien: yeah, absolutely. and d by making it simple, they can use it when they need it the most. so loneliness doesn't hit you in the middle of the day during, you know, social activity. it hits, you know--my mom--where we lost my father a year ago--it hits her in the middle of the night when she's lonely and depressed. she can now use something like this. it's now accessible to her to look at pictures of the family, to enjoy the music that soothes her and brings her comfort because--and so what we've done is just made technology simple so that they can enjoy, design it just for them and they get the benefits that we all get.

walter: but the payoff... you see the smiles on n their faces. lien: yeah. walter: yoyou see that it's mag. i mean, do you two feel like, you know--this will be the final question? do you feel like you're revolutionaries because you really are changing the face of care for these people who've been shut away? and i'll start with you, scott. lien: absolutely. there's over 20 million people in this country over the age of 75, and that's gonna grow to 34 million-- fastest-growing segment. and many of them are very, very frustrated with technology today. and we worked, as michael said, with high-functioning folks that are frustrated with technology and those that have other challenges. by doing this, we can dramatically improve their life, but the real extra payoff is by reconnecting them with their family. everyone wins--the kids, the grandkids, the great- grandkids--because, as michael pointed out, that connection between the young and the old has always been there. unfortunately, modern times of people living apart, so distance has disconnected and technology has disconnected. we can bring them back together and it'll have a big difference

on this country. walter: and michael, it starts as a film but now it's a cause. i mean it's a passion of yours, isn't it? rossato-bennett: the one thing i learned from this whole process is i thought these elders with dementia were gone, that they were dead. i really did. i'm sorry. i thought--and i think most of us do. and what i learned beyond a shadow of a doubt is that there are two minds: one is the cognitive, thkiking md and thother is the emional see of seland the otional ing. andn ese peop, that pt of the is 1% % funconalal. d thata's why, you kno scott a i, we rely hava lot ofleasure what we're doi. likeyou kn, peop go to the work and they're, like, "oh, i'm just clocking in." no. this is fun because we--we're helping people be good and access that--that aliveness that we're supposed to have. we're not machines. we're

not robots. we're not unnecessary. we are--we are--we are beautiful creatures, human beings. and we really need to get back to celebrating that together and that's my thought. walter: well, it's amazing that you put something here and you just see the eyes, you know, and you know that they've triggered not just the mind but the heart as well. rossato-bennett: right, right. walter: it's fantastic film. it's great what both of you are doing. michael, scott, thanks so much for coming in. really appreciate it. lien: thanks for having us. walter: coming up next, an international effort to connect the world by playing for change. talented street musicians from around the globe captured on film. combined, their voices can be truly magical and it sounds something like this. [upbeat music c playing]

men: ♪ freedom and justicece is the melody that letet us shine e on if you feel it through the music we can make this world a better place chorus: freedom and justice is the melody that let us shine on if you feeeel it through the musisic we can m make this w world a a better plalace live together, love forever it's the only thing we can do hold my hand, by me stand...♪ walter: videos like that one are the work of playing for change,

a non-profit organization dedicated to building music in art schools for children around the world. the street musician videos have become a global sensation, touching millions of lives. the movement is designed to connect people around the world, unifying them, and bringing peace through the power of music. joining us now to share their musical journey are the foundation's founders, philanthropists and filmmakers, whitney kroenke and mark johnson. and we wanna welcome both of you to "full frame." and it's so fantastic watching that video, but i was troubled 'cause i was watching the video, but then i was watching the two of you. and, mark, you're like this and you're laughing. kroenke: yeah. walter: i mean it brings joy just watching it, doesn't it? i mean, and i'm sure both of you have seen it a million times, right, mark? johnson: yeah. i was actually reliving it as i'm watching it, reliving traveling to all those places. walter: how about you--how about you, whitney? i mean when you watch it-- kroenke: i have--for having seen these videos literally thousands of times, it still brings like a true joy to my heart and i still--it puts a smile on my face every time. so... walter: so, mark, how was this born? how was this--i mean a lot of times, there are ideas but

then to actually make it happen--how did it happen? johnson: well, i mean originally playing for change, it was born with a question, you know, "how can we find one thing to unite and inspire people all over the world?" you know, we live in a world that has a lot of division--your race, your religion, your politics, how much money you have--and we wanted to find something that could inspire people to look past all that, to transcend that. so we decided to hit the streets and started by recording and filming street musicians, first across america and then with "stand by me" around the world, and we just saw so much talent and so much soul. and we realized that great music, great art--they're just moments in time. you can harness the energy from those moments, and you could connect people deeper and makeke people feel more connected as a human race. that was the birth of pfc. walter: and whitney... kroenke: mm-hmm. walter: mark's speaking your language, but how did the two of you come together and how do you know--i mean how do you guys connect in such a way and it's like, "oh, wow, that's exactly what i'm thinking"? kroenke: we--mark and i met back in 2001 through a mutual friend

of ours who had, through conversations with the both of us, had realized that we both had a real interest in street musicians and street performers. and we were both really interested in the removal of the fourth wall and how brave these performers were and how much talent there was out there on the street. and in taking people off the streets, sometimes you lose that immediacy and the beauty of those moments. so we wanted to go out and put ourselves in that environment and try and to take some of that energy with us, take it on the road, and spread it around the country and then around the world. walter: mark, you mentioned "stand by me." let's watch a little bit of this and then i wanna get you guys on the backside to talk about it. man: no matter how much money you got or the friends you got you gonna need somebody to stand by you man: when the night has come

and the land is dark and that moon is the only light we see no, i won't be afraid no, i--i--i won't shed one tear just as long as the people come and stand by me man: and darlin', darlin' stand by me... ♪ walter: i love that song and i think everybody loves that song, but there's-- there's something about the quality of it performed by them that's so different and so unique. speak to me about that, mark. johnson: well, i mean, i think the, you know, the original start of "stand by me" was here in los angeles and santa monica, california. i was walking to the recording studio, and i heard the street musician roger ridley singing the song. i was

a few blocks away from him. i ran over to watch the end of his performance, and i remember asking him, you know, "if i come back with some recording equipment and cameras, we'd like to travel the world, put headphones on musicians, and add them to the song." he looked at me like i was crazy, but he said, "hey, if you come back, i'll play the song." and when i came back, i said, "roger, with a voice like that, why are you singing on the street?" i mean, he sounded like otis redding. and he said, "man, i'm in the joy business. i come out to bring joy to the people." and that's really been the source of this project ever since, use music to bring joy to people all over the world. walter: talk to me about that joy for you. what is it? how do you describe it? kroenke: for me, the most powerful part about the process and the journey of playing for change has been to see how music is the big--you can be one of the great uniting forces and is one of the great uniting forces in humanity. and so, when you're performing a song together or singing a song together or playing on a song or listening to a song, it's a really shared relationship. it's a reciprocal relationship, and

it's one that speaks from the heart to the heart and it really gets people out of your head. so whether that's a live performance or watching it recorded, it's a really intimate exchange as well as like a very large exchange. so, it's inclusive and--and singular at the same time, right? walter: you say to him, i'm gonna go around the world. i'm gonna get you first." and you did go around the world, didn't you? i mean how many places did you go to get that? johnson: i think "stand by me" was about 10 different countries. and the idea was to put all these different cultures and types of musicians together so somebody could see someone that they relate to connect with somebody maybe they didn't relate to. and by the end d of e vivideo, they're gonna be more connected. walter: playaying for change b . talk to us about that. how many members? how did it come about? johnson: ok. playing for change band--that came about around 2008, right around that same time. you know, as we were traveling, the idea was we also wanted to build something, build a family, so to speak, all over the world. so we would take time to listen to the musicians and their

families and their friends. they'd invite us in their homes, feed us. so we really wanted to give something back. so we decided to create the playing for change foundation and in order to build our first music school, in the exact same spot where the gentleman is playing upright bass in the "stand by me" video in gugulethu township, south africa, so we decided to hold a benefit concert to raise the fundnds to build the schooool. d we decided, let's bring a bunch of these musicians who had never met in person, had only met though their videos--let's put them together on the stage. and literally, it was just magic to see all these different cultures come together. each one had their own success in their own way. they put that aside to become something, create something bigger. and we just saw this magic. and we realized this is what the world needs to see--this, tangible example of all these countries and cultures uniting together on the stage. and that's how you change the world. it's one heart, one song at a time. and so the playing for change band is really the playing for change ambassadors, where they travel the world as

a touring band. they visit homeless shelters and children's hospitals and make sure people realize e music is more t than just e entertainmem. and ththat's really whahat the playing for change band represent. they've played over 250 concerts ever since then, anand now it's a band o of 12 musicians from 10 different countries. walter: wow. wow. johnson: and we're always adding guests as we travel around the world. walter: and yoyou were talking about the schools. i mean, talk to me about the schools, 'cause it's one thing to bring these people together, come up with music, and then have, you know, the emails galore, and everything spreading. but then to take it and create something out of that that's even bigger... kroenke: mm-hmm. walter: that's got to be special, too. kroenke: yeah. it's really, really been such an awesome experience to go back into the communities 'cause--that we started recording in and to help them to build their own schools or start their own programs and work with the community on the curriculum and how every country is different with what they wanna teach. i mean, some schools teach everything from

music to life skills. and some, you know, some--one of our programs in nepal is working on sex--the sex slave trade and child slavery, using the arts to teach the children, and these were all villages, about that. so it's all really individualized and really powerful, and it's just giving sometimes just people a nudge to say, "you can do this," you knowow, "here are some instruments," and then--and then watch them take it and run with it is really awesome. walter: whitney, one of the things i think i really liked about what you said was that, well, they may teach this here and they may teach this here-- um. it's important--i think sometimes when we talk about philanthropy, it's cookie- cutter. "let's go in and we'll do this here and it works well here. so we'll do it here and we'll trans--" kroenke: mm-hmm. walter: but they're involved, they're engaged. and that's important, isn't it? kroenke: yeah. yeah. well, always from the beginning, playing for change has been about the relationships that we have with the musicians. it's very personal, as mark said earlier. you know, we've been invited into their homes. they've shared, you know, stories with us and food and tea--teabags when they have

none, you know? and you're--and it's a mutual respect and it's a mutual love, and so when we decided to go back in, the last thing we wanted to do, to go back into these communities and say, "here's what we think you should do" because that's very presumptuous of us. we said, "how can we help you do something that you've been wanting to do for a long time?" you know, so that's been our-- our, um, goal all along. walter: there's the great song by joni mitchell-- i can't think of the name of it--about the street musician performing and everyone walks by him and he's so phenomenal, and yet they pay to come and see her perform. um, what's that lesson? i mean that song is kind of--really kind of crystallizes what you're all about in many ways. johnson: right. i mean, well, when you look at "stand by me" and you think about it, all three of the lead singers were all street musicians. and they're the three best singers in the world for that version of that song. so maybe it's about redefining, "what is success?" because every day these musicians go out there and they connect to everybody who walks by, and there's no filter

between them and their audience. and to me, that's what music is all about, human connections. so i think we could learn a lot from seeing that street musicians and any musician, really, that they're giving you the opportunity to be more positive in the world we live in and to use this as inspiration and hope. walter: whitney, what's the message you u wanna convey to or viewers about all of this? this whole experience for you and--and... kroenke: i think it's important from a personanal level to just--to just be open to like you said, veering off the main path and following, you know, the side street that might turn into the main path. that's been very key to how-- the evolution of our project. and i also think it's just important--you know, we always said this from the beginning, like, stop and listen. you know, take the time to stop and listen, whether it's just someone playing music, someone speaking, you know, take the time to make that human connection. i think that's the way that we're gonna go forward as a human race is just with connecting with each other. walter: well, we're gonna stop

and listen. we have a tune we wanna play, and i'm not sure i'm gonna pronounce it right. so, mark, maybe you could set it up for us. "satchita"? is that how you say it? johnson: "satchita." walter: "satchita?" johnson: "satchita." walter: give us a little intro to it and then we'll go to it. johnson: ok. we started this song from brazil and it's a--originally it's a mantra from india, and we took it all around the world. walter: let's listen. [singing in foreign language] fantastic stuff. thanks again for coming in. really appreciate it. kroenke: thank you for having us. johnson: thank you so much. walter: we'll be right back with this week's "full frame" close-up.

originally created as a child's play thing, the toy piano has also served as an inspiration for many musicians. phyllis chen not only collects these instruments, she composes beautiful music on them. her compositions are elaborate and complex. chen prefers to use the nostalgic sounds of childhood by sometimes incorporating music boxes into her performances. she's also the founder of the biennial uncaged toy piano festival, a festival for toy piano composers to unveil new works. she's released four cocollaborative albums and three solo albums using this unique instrument. "full frame" visited phyllis chan in new york, where she invited us to take a musical journey back to our childhoods.

[piano playing classical music] chen: i started playing piano when i was 5 with formal lessons anand i played piano all my lif. anand i just r really love the y ththe tactile e expericece of playing a piano more t than anything. atat a young age, i think it's like a a toy at that point whwhere you touch somethig and a sound comes s out. it's just something happens when you do something in that--and inin y

fingers, i still remememr fefeeling that sorort of, like i could feel sound, you know, from playing the piano. and then i started to fall in love with playing classical music, and that led me to pursue it in college and forward. so--and my life with it has changed since that point where i think there was a lot of anxiety about becoming a classical pianist and what that meant. and eventually, i found the toy piano as an adult, so i started playing piano as a kid, but then i found the toy piano as an adult. [toy piano playing] when i found the toy piano, i knew immediately there was a lot of potential for this instrument. and there wasn't a lot of music out there, but i really thought there was something special that a lot of composers would really love. and so i went--approached a lot

of composers with this and some of them were like, "ah, it just seems so--i don't know, so childish or just very niche-oriented." it's--it wasn't their thing. [playing tune] so it became clear to me at that point that i think i loved it more than anybody in a way, and it naturally led me to write music for it than i wanted to play for it. i found music boxes, i guess, for the toy piano. they're very similar in the sense that they're miniature and they're--the--their sounding mechanism comes from tines and so there's sort of that celestial quality. and they both need, like, wood or something, a body to resonate into sounund. [tinkling sound] i found the hand-cranked music boxes. and once again, i think it's the tactile experience of

punching the holes out of this strip of paper to create the melody that i also really loved doing. [tinkling sound] it just seemed like the perfect companion to the toy piano. so i've written a lot of music for the music box and toyy piano together. [music box and piano playing] as a--asas a mother of two daughters, i think just kind of the idea of women and the sort of vulnerabilityty of childhdhod and particularly young girls was rereally prevavalent on n my mind. i--i came across paola gianturco's books and found her stories s completely i inspiring and ordered all her books right away. reading the stories of these

womemen and the photographs, how beautiful it was that she was rereally like this medium or ths sort of funnel for these women and as a connector, i think, as a person to tell the stories, you know. and i was so moved by this that i knew i wanted to do my next piece based on her stories. [playing "swan lake"] a lot the music boxes that we find tend to have the traditional pink ballerinas inside and they're pink, pink, pink, pink, pink, basically pink. and in these stories, i just r read all these other examples of incredible women that i felt it would have been amazing to know about even as a young gigirl myself. insteadad f having a music box with a pink ballerina, what if instead it was another type of woman

that is an incredible role model for--for young girls? so this led me to go on a different kind of adventure with the music box, where i was using ready-made music boxes and i modified them to make my own music. and i worked with a friend of mine who is a choreographer and a puppeteer, jordan marley, to create new figurines to go inside of the music boxes that were all inspirations from paola's books. her book "grandmother power"... she speaks about how grandmothers are raising many of the young children of the nenext generation. they have the future of the world in their hands. [turning key] [music playing]

is this the same level as yesterday? this season, i have a few concerts coming up with a toy piano. ok, cool. [t[tung g strings] man: is that the right one, phyl? [playing tune] chen: this fall, i have a residency at the suny new paltz, and d i'll be doing a a performe there of paola gianturco's inspirational piece that i wrote, "lighting the dark," for the toy pianos and a bunch of keyboards and modidified music boxes. [a[applause] [music box playing] [playing toy piano] i think it definitely has helped to play the piano--to play the toy piano obviously with the keys, but it t does fel different. it's much lighter and it feels much more intimate. it's not a very loud instrument. so it sort of invites other people to get very close, and it makes me also feel like i'm sort of curling up a little bit smaller, and

everything just feels closer and more intimate. i think what i really love about the toy piano concerts is you have to just come in with an open mind. you just don't know what you're gonna get. [playing piano] and that's very different than sort of the classical background where you know the piece, you know the performer. so there's--even though t there's a lalarge performance element the, there's something that is very predictable. but with the toy piano concerts, it's--you probably just don't really know what's gonna happen. a lot of it depends on the conviction of, you know, the person playing it. [piano and music box playing] [playing long note] you know, sometimes people show

up to a concert and they say, "i'm here to see the miniature pianist," or, you know, like there's all sorts of occupational hazards involved. but for me, it's just because it's organically, the instrument that i feel closest to. [playing toy piano] [music ends] [applause] walter: that's it for this week. join the conversation with us on social media. we are cctv america on twitter, facebook, and youtube. and now, you can watch "full frame" on our new mobile app, available worldwide on any smartphone for free. search cctv america on your app store to download today. all of tonight's interviews can still be found online at cctvtv-america.com. . and let us

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