amy: from the democratic national conventn in philadelphia, this is democracy now! mrs. clinton: : tonight we havee reached a milestone in our nation's march toward a more perfect union, the first time that a major party has nominated a woman for president. amy: in a historic night, hillary clinton accepted the

democratic party's presidential nomination. setting her eyes on november clinton repeatedly took jabs at , her republican rival. mrs. clinton: donald trump says he wants to make america great again. start by actually making things and america again. amy: we will hear more from hillary clinton, host a debate on her candidacy us meet the , protesters who attempted to disrupt the final night of the dnc. we will also look at clinton's running mate tim kaine and his time in honduras as a young man. >> i got a firsthand look at the different system, a dictatorship, a dictatorship, where a few people at the top had all of the power and everybody else got left out. amy: we will speak to historian greg grandin about what tim kainine didn't learn during his time in honduras. all that and more, coming up.

amy: welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, this is "breaking with convention: war, peace, and the presidency. i am amy goodman. here in philadelphia, former secretary of state hillary clinton has become the first woman to accept t a major party presidential nomination in u.s.. history.y. mrs. clinton: and so some of myy friends, it is with humility, determined dacian desk determination, and confidence in america's promise, that i is set -- that i accept your nomination for president of the united states. amy: that was hillary clinton, the first woman nominated for the presidency by a major party . seattlea debate between city councilmember and a new york magazine rights are from our first hour, go to democracynow.org, and stay wiwih

us for another debate in this hour. hillary clinton's address came at the end of the day, packed with speakers including hillary clinton's daughter, chelsea, retired general john allen, civil rights leader dolores huerta, and moral mondndays ororganizer reverend williamam barber. one of the most powerful speakers thursday was khizr khan whose son died in 2004 serving , in the u.s. war in iraq. this is khan addressing donald trump. >> donald trump, you are asking americans to trust you with their future. let me ask you, have you even read the united states constitution? will gladly lend you my copy. his that is khizr khan,

son, a u.s. army captain, posthumously awarded the bronze star and purple heart after he was killed in iraq. his speech was broadcast by cnn and msnbc hewitt fox news did not play the speech, instead choosing to air commercials. fox news also do not play the dnc speeches of the mothers of trayvonland, davis, and martin. instead, an event moderated by bill o'reilly. bernie sanders delegates protested on and off the convention floor thursday. scores of sanders delegates wore florescent green shirts reading "enough is enough," which appeared to glow in the dark whenever the arena lights dimmed in between speakers. many of these delegates also held signs reading "no more wars," "ban fracking now," "#dncemailleaks," and "jill stein." toward the end of thursday night, about a half dozen young black activists marched out of the convention arena chanting "black lives matter."

other groups of colorado and california delegates also walked off the floor. meanwhile, hundreds of protesters rallied outside the wells fargo center thursday night. one protester spoke about the impacts of bill clinton's welfare reform on her family. this is jacinta mack. >> the monthly money that we got was cut, and then the subsidized housing was also cut. go my mother was required to out and apply for a certain number of jobs, but she was a ngle mother of six chchildren and was not able to meet their requirements. we struggled tremendously, and became a sexuaually worker. amy: on the republican side, donald trump says he has not appreciated the criticism during this week's dnc. on thursday, he talked about attacking multiple dnc speakers. mr. trump: i wanted to hit a couple of those speakers so hard

. i would have hit them -- no, no set, and then i got a call from a highly respected governor -- how is it going, donald? well, going good, but they are saying badad things about me, im goining to hit them soo hard, oe guy in particular, and very little guy. i was going to hit this guy so hard his head would spin, he would not know what the hell happened. amy: the pentagon is expanding and advise and assist mission for troops in iraq. some of them are deploying along with a conventional iraqi army unit for the first time in years. in april, president obama authorized u.s. combat advisers to deploy with iraqi army forces at lower levels. until then, they had been largely confined to bases and special forces misissions. the announcement comes as officers h have spoken abobout n "imminent" offensive against mosul, the largest city held by isis. earlier this month, the pentagon raised the number of soldiers in iraq to more t than 4,600. ere are alalso at least 3,0000

u.s. military contractors in the country. 36 senators, including democratic vice presidential nominee tim kaine, are pushing to add $320 million for israeli missile defense to next t year's defense appropopriations bill. that's in addition to the $3 billion a year in military funding the u.s. currently gives israel. the proposed increase includes more purchases of ironome systems designed to intercept missile fired toward israel from palestine. president obama has threatened to veto legislation with that level of funding for the program. the syrian observatory for human rights is reporting andnd other u.s. strike has killed civilians in northern syria. it says a strike new the city of mont beach killed at least 28 civilians on thursday. the u.s.-backed militia has been fighting isis for control of manbij since may. it is said that three u.s. strikes in the area since then have killed at least 200

civilians since the offensive began. an al qaeda-syrian branch and announced it has broken with al qaeda's leadership. the nusra front is listed as a terrorist organization by the , but weapons have routinely fallen into the hands of its group. the u.s. navy is naming a ship after harvey milk. milk was murdered in 1978 after becoming one of the nation's first openly gay elected official. he served in the navy in the 1950's and when on to become an outspoken opponent of the vietnam war. the proposal has faced opposition from some members of san francisco's lgbt community for years it when the idea was first post, and activists said that it seems inappropriate and insensitive to name and navy ship after a gay man who opposed to the vieietnam war and war in general. those are some of the headlines. this is breaking witith convention: war, peace, and the

presidency. i'm amy goodman. former secretary of state hillary clinton has made history by becoming the first women to accept a major party presidential nomination. during her acceptance speech thursday night, clinton said the country is at a moment of reckoning. mrs. clinton: we have to heal the divide in our country, not just on guns, but on race, immigration, and more. and that starts with listening, listening to each other, trying as best we can to walklk in each other's shoes, so let's put ourselves inin the shoes of youg black and latino men and women who face the effects of systemic racism and are made to feel like their lives are disposable.

in the shoesselves of police officers kissing their kids and spouses goodbye every day, heading off to do a dangerous and necessary job. we will reform our criminal justice system from end t to end and rebuild trust between law enforcement and the communities they serve. and we will defend, we will defend all our rights, civil rights, human rights, voting rights, women's rights, workers rights, lgbt rights, and the rights of people with disabilities. amy: hillary clinton thanked the democratic challenger, bernie sanders, and repeatedly took trump. donald

mrmrs. clinton: in atlanantic c, 6060 miles from here, you'll fid contractors anansmall businesses who lost everything because donald trump refused to pay his bills. crowd: b boo. mrs. clinton: now remember what the president said last night -- don't boo, vote. [cheers and applause] mrs. clinton: but think of this, people who did the work and , not because he could not pay them, but because he would not pay them. he just stiffed them. and you know that sales pitch he is making to be president, put your faith in him and you will the same saless pitch he made to all those small businesses. and trump walked away and left working people holding the bag. he also talked a big game about

putting america first. well, please explain what part of america first leads him to mamake trump ties in china, not colorado, trump booze in mexico, not michigan, trump furniture in turkey, not ohio, trump picture ?rames in india, not wisconsin donald trump says he wants to make america great again. well, he could start by actually making things in america again. finalpeakers during the night of the convention included lgbt rights activist sermon bride, who became the first openly transgender woman to speak in a major party convention. >> four years ago, i came out as transgender while serving as student body president and college. at the time, i was scared. i worried that my dreams and my were mutually

exclusive. since then though, i have seen that change is possible. anitnessed history being internet the white house and helping my home state of the past protections for transgender people. will we be an issue where there is only one way to love, only one way to look, and only one way to live? or will we be a nation where everyone has the freedom to live openly and equally, a nation that is stronger together? amy: protestant minister and president of the north carolina naacp, the reverend william barber come alsoso delivered a moving s speech calling for lov, mercy, and justice for all. what when we fight to reinstate the power of the voting rights break the we interpositition and nullificatin of the current congress, we in the south, especially, know that when we do that, we are reviving

the heart of our democracy. uniononfight for 15 and a anand universal health care and public education and immigrant lgbtq rights, we are reviving the heart of our democracy. when we develop tax and trade policies that no longer funnel our prosperity to the few, we are reviving the heart of our democracy. whenen we h hear the legitimate discontent of black lives matter and we come together to renew justice in our criminal justice

system, we are embracing our deepest moral values and reviving the heart of our demomocracy. we love the jewish child and the palestinian child -- [cheers and applause] >> -- the muslim and the christian and the hindu and the buddhist and those who have no nation,t they love this we are revivining the heart of r democracy. peacece, and for when we resisist the prolilifern ofof military style weapons on r , and when we stand

against the anti-democratic stronghold of the nra, we are reviving the heart of our democracy. amy: protests continued on the floor r of the convention as in court "no more were could be heard throughout the evening. some delegates walked off the floor and protest. democracy now! was on the floor went artists began aseneral john allen took the stage. >> please welcome to the stage, the four-star general who knows the about isis than anyone, president former special envoy to the coalition against isis, retired general john allen. [applause] chanting -- no more work] norman solomon, bernie

sanders delegate or general john allen, one of the top generals, is giving a militaristic speech, and many bernie delegates in the delegation here and elsewhere around this arena are saying we just don't want any more wars. no more of this pseudo-patriotic rhetoric coming up. we're tired of it. [inaudible] >> i tell you without hesitation or reservation that hillary clinton will be exactly, exactly the kind of commander-in-chief america needs. i know this. oakland.rom what i am doing right now is in onosition to the attacks

people of color around the globe. california. we are holding up signs that say we more wars," because believe that hillary will lead us into more war. we will lose a lot of people of color, particularly latinos and blacks. this is a chance to lead us to war. people will be killed, innocent people. war!]anting -- no more chelsea: ladies and gentlemen, my mother, my hero, and our next president, hillary clinton. this is my fight song take back my life song ♪

amy: we are standing next to the colorado delegation. many of the delegates have "enough is enough" signs. hillary clinton just walked onto the stage. she was just introduced. a big sign across the stage says "stronger together." says "super predator 2heel."e it is about the black american communities, and it pisses me of f. she is a liar, and that is why i am holding these signs. every time a black person has confronted her about these issues, she has tossed them out and has not addressed the issues are the injustices in the black community, taking away people's fathers and mothers from their families for drug-related offenses.

it has destroyed the black community. >> i am from durham, north carolina, and i am just over the moon. ama hillary delegate with a voice. this is something children can strive to be of all sexes. america. amy: what is it about hillary clinton, what are the issues you feel are most important? >> she is just focused on all that is important to america. alleconomy, health care for . she wants children to be protected. she is strong with military. it is those urgent matters that she really does have experience in, the most anyone has ever had.

are holding two signs. tell me what they say, your state, and how you are feeling. >> north carolina. happy about the nominee. she is a well-qualified. i think she is the best candidate for the united states. amy: what is it about hillary that you feel makes her most capable? >> well, she has been right at the forefront. she was first lady and then secretary. she already knows some of the issues, and being the first lady, she has firsthand knowledge of what a president goes through. i am from north carolina, and i am a bernie delegate, but i am really excited right now.

it is awesome seeing the first woman to be nominee of a major party. happy aboutam so all bernie has done, and i think hillary is going to run with a lot of those ideas. about what excited she is going to do in the next few months, and i really hope we can all come together and elect her in november. ,my: what are you showing us nothing against the flag, but this feels more and more like the rnc. one of the delegates has just show me a picture of what was just tweeted. tell me what it says. >> this actually feels scary to me. know, like i don't 1933 germany or something, all this nationalism. it is beginning to feel very scary. amy: what does your sign say?

>> we need to ban fracking. as of this moment, i am leaving the democratic party. i am a delegate for colorado. say?what does your pin >> it says, "jill stein, not hill." amy: looks like staff is giving many signs that surround this delegation of bernie supporters from colorado. they may not know what they are about to do, but they are telling everyone to put up the signs. can i ask what you're doing? moment, andillary's we want to hear her. the party is stronger together. we do not want anyone at this time hindering what she is trying to do, so we are standing together. we are all democrats in here, so

this is time for us to unite, and we want to beat trump. we know there is a protest about to go on, but we're here for hillary, and we're going to stand for her. we are stronger together. i am from new jersey, but i work here in philadelphia. amy: amy goodman from democracy now! i want to ask about the protests while hillary is speaking. >> [inaudible] wanted to ask what the senator thought of the protests in front of him. delegation colorado holding up signs that say "liar and "no moreing," war." >> i am holding this sign because hillary clinton has spread fracking around the world, and it needs to end. amy: what sign are you holding? "no oligarchy" a

sign, because we need to end corporate involvement making this government of the 1% and not a government of the people. i just watched her spent almost an hour focusing on -- [inaudible] 20,000 people are excited to hear the speech. i saw you focus on just a few people rather than the overwhelming amount of folks listening to what senator sanders says, encouraging us to focus on the message. amy: i came to you and asked you -- >> i am trying to focus on the speech, but you have been blocking my view for the last hour. i just wish he would focus on her. thank you. did you hear hillary say

she believes that wall street should not wreck main street? and you are holding up a "ban tpp" sign. >> she is ridiculous. it was her husband's administration with robert ruben who first removed gran steagall -- grant stickel, and she is going to go the same way to achieve has no interest in regulating high-frequency trading, and they are setting up the exact things over again. she is absolutely in debt to those things. amy: what about because of pressure from people, she has come out against tpp? i made, you could flip a coin to find out how they

are voting. she is going to flip. we know the campaign is in favor of tpp. she published a chapter in her book on the gold standard of trade. but then she removed it. there are things she can say to make us believe that she actually does not support tpp, but so far, she seems to only object to it because bernie pushed her into the corner. amy: well, that is politics. if she does it for that reason, wouldn't it make you happy? >> well, if it is real. but with hillary clinton, it is never real. she turns around and changes her mind to be on the other side of the coin. anything she has described in terms of her commitment to been poor, ands her record shows us.

well, she said she believes in science, as well. >> well, the science of oil extraction and fracking. they hire scientists to extract and pull oil out of the ground, as well. that does not mean it is a science we support. the science that are reasons for a lot of global climate change, and she has gone around the world promoting bad energy policies. amy: you were upset when you saw these protesters. tell me why. i am an immigrant from co-colombia, south america. i am from north carolina. i believe that, number one, we should be educated. you should give everybody --

this is our convention. most of these people never belonged to the democratic party. they are here for bernie sanders. he was independent. it was the only party that would take him. the republicans would not take him. so these people have to understand that if you want to change something, you have to get in and work from the inside. your diningaint room in your house from the outside, ok? if you want to win the fight, you have to do that. if they really want to help, if they really have all that energy to give, they should go into the respected towns and cities and

counties, sign for the party, and if thehey want to chanange , chchange it through the inside. amy: voices from the floor of the democratic national convention. i was standing between the north carolina delegation and the colorado delegation. some of those colorado delegates did walk off, as did some from california. withll be back in a minute more on the historic nomination of hillary clinton. special thanks to john hamilton. ♪ [music break]

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democracynow.org -- - we are breaking with convention: war, peace, and the presidency. two-hour daily two week special from the conventions, this week in philadelphia. to talk more about the convention, the historic nomination of hillary clinton and how the black lives matter movement is reflected in the democratic platform, we're joined now by two guests. keeanga-yamahtta taylor is the author of "from #blacklivesmatter to black liberation," and an assistant professor of african american studies at princeton university. and janaye ingram is the former executive director of the national action network and a member of the 20/20 leaders of america. we welcome you both to democracy now! janaye ingram,h your response to the nomination of hillary clinton last night, the formal acceptatance speech e gave on the floor of the democratic national convention, the first woman nominated by a major party to be president of the united states. >> obviously, i think it is a

problem for the country that this has happened, notwithstanding all that has surrounded her nomination. i still believe that her is aation, first female, moment that we need to pay attention to and we need to acknowledge as a history making moment. i was happy about her speech last night herere at i think she could have done a little bit more with giving us a personal story. i think leading up to her speech, you had a lot of the speakers, and the videoeo here t yoyou had her daugughter talking about her as a person, the night prior, you had people humanizing her and bringing that human touch. i was looking for more from that perspective, but i was also happy to hear her talk about the black lives matter movemen even though she did not specifically call it out. she did mention the fact that black and brown people are being sort of brutalized -- thatat isy

word, brutalized by police. i would say that was a recognition to have on a national stage by this candidate , which was important to the movement. we had reverend barber earlier talk about like lives matter, so having that repeated by hillary clinton, at least in her way of saying it, was an important moment. the pressurelot of that has been placed on her. she is feeling that pressure and is responding to it, at least now, with words. ?my: keeanga-yamahtta taylor >> i guess i was thinking that the speech, along with the convention as a whole, in many ways demonstrated the gap between a kind of similes of and thee reality -- a kind of symbolism and the reality on the streets of philadelphia and around the country. and so i think that hillary

a speech full of in somees and that, ways, was of symbolic value, but it really lacked specificity in terms of how we are going to address very serious crises in this country. me, thatthink that, to is part of the problem. i kind of walk away the convention with all the talk about how great and wonderful the united states is, and in many ways, obviously, the reflected more of the ethnic and gender and sexual orientation ever city in the united states certainly than the republican's hate show last week , but i thihink what we have learned from the obama presesidency is that we hahave o move from symbolism into actual

that areand programs going to improve the lives of everyday, ordinary people. and the speeches t throughout te week and clinton's speech last night, i think we're still waiting for that specificity in how we go o from a kind of symbolic representation of people to the actual representation and improvement in the quality of people's lives on an everyday basis. would you have liked hillary clinton to say last night? >> well, i think the two things that i am most concerned with have to o do witith black lives matter and specific policies tot are going to be advanced stop police abuse and violence in black communities. also, hillary clinton gave a very heralded speech in harlem in february where she talked about the r reinvestment in

distressed communities, and that seems to be something that was completely missing from the speech. so in a city like philadelphia, where the democratic party, they're having this party all week, there is 28% poverty, and half of those people are living in what is defefined as extreme poverty. so what are the actual policies and processes that are going to be p put into place toto address that? the concrete details i wanted to hear about. amy: why do you think hillary clinton is the best person to address the criminal justice system? >> i do not know that i would say she is the best person. i think she definitely has -- having had the experience she has had, she does bring to the table certain criteria that i think would be helpful as

opposed to the person she is running against. to say that she is the best person is not something i would be covered will saying. i think, given the two choices, you have donald trump who has talked about essentially creating a law and order state, which whenen you're talking a at a fractured relationship between police and specifically the black community, that is very troubling and disturbing to hear. so given the two choices, i think having someone who at least is willing to have the conversation and to recognize -- it is important that she says it. i was really waiting to see if it was going to be said by her, to be honest, because i was not completely sure. but the fact that she actually acknowledged it means that there is some opportunity for us to hold her accountable to the things she is saying. amy: and you had this unusual moment on the stage of the convention where the mother's of

those who have been killed, two by police and won by a vigilante, sandra bland's mother , trayvon martin's mother, and jordan davis' mother. what did you make of that? sayne thing that i want to is that donald trump may talk about law and order and building ,urther on a lawn order society but we have to remember that bill and hillary clinton, in fact, did build a law and order society with the passage of the 1994,4, passage off a bill in 1996. in many ways, we are recovering from the pololicies that were championed and doggedly pursued by the original clinton

administration in the 1990's. i think it is important to say that. in terms of thehe parents, the mothers, i know that if my child were killed unjustly by the police o or by a racist vigilan, i would want to do everything in my power to bring the perpetrators to justice. so i do not question the motives of the mothers who participated in top the dnc -- in the d dnc program. i do question, however, the motives of political operatives that would use the suffering of black parents for votes. so there is nothing that i have seen yet in clinton's policy me, takeshat, to sears the addressing the issues of police violence.

money onalk about police training? that sort of thing. but what a about police accountability? what is being talked about in terms of holding the police accountable for the deaths of black people? we just seen this week, freddie gray -- apparently, no one killed freddie gray. it was declared homicide, and no one is held to account. so i am interested in what hillary clinton has to say about that. that means we have to move beyond promises during election time and platitude into concrete specifics of what elected officials are going to do to defend black people from violence and abuse at the hands of the police. you know, going back to the earlier point about the crime , you know, i agree

that was not the right legislation that we needed to have, and clearly, we are seeing the effects of that daily. the clintons championed that, and so, by doing that, they are the face of that. i will say that there were other people who championed that and who supported the bill who looked like us, like the two of us. so you know, at that time, i want to put the context behind that bill -- at that time, there was a lot of crime, and there were a lot of people -- it was not just the clintons saying this is the bill. so there is a response ability we have as a community, and that is really important. yes, we need to talk about policy solutions, but offering policy in and of itself does not guarantee that that policy will

even be implemented. yes, we have to make sure that meetingr structure is our demands, and itt is essentially responding to the things they said they were going to do. there is a certain level of accountability that i do not know has been achieved yet. that is not just by the black community. i think that is by the american society as a whole. that is part of the frustratitin coming up with the bernie movement. people do not feel like poliliticians have been heheld accountable. but what they fail to realize is that we e are the ones that are supposed to keep all editions accountable. with t that, i think i'm a you knowow, we are talalking about policy solutions. i think hillary clinton needs to have someone in her ear are talking about what types of solutions needed to be had. i do not know that, given the 1994 crime bill, that i would fully say, you know, have at it,

you create the policies, and we will be behind it. it needs to be a conversation. i would just say that, first, talking about the 1990's, i think it is one thing if you are in a black community that is absolutely having issues with ofme and poverty because decades on disinvestment in jobs and infrastructure for black communities and you are left with no other viable alternative . so the alternative was not either support the crime bill or support this post of public policies aimed at rebuilding the public infrastructure, rebuilding public programs that are intended to mitigate the work aspect of poverty. people were not given that option. in fact, bill clinton and hillary clinton helped to usher declaredod where they

the era of big government, ie government programs, is over. prisons.gave was more it is an important context. the thing i think we miss that was most pernicious about clinton policies in the 1990's, the crime bill, the effective death penalty act, welfare reform them a was s not just tht poor people lost access to important government benefits, but most importantly, the damage that was done to the idea that government has a role in the lives of everyday people, the government has a responsibility to support working-class people. in fact, they help to disconnect the ideas, they helped to disconnect the idea that poverty, that economic inequality is responsible for the issues, that those things were responsible for people's reliance o or n need for welfar. thesese are ideas we arere still

dealing with today, the idea that government somehow is a bad thing. amy: and what is your assessment of donald trump, where he fits into this? let's begin with janaye. of donald trump is obviously that he is using gainas a tactic to sort of him some votes,, popularity. even seeing his most recent comments talking about hitting some of the speakers, i mean -- amy: he was in iowa and said he wanted to attack one of the dnc speakers. >> i think he said hit, he wanted to h hit some of them. it is appalling to me that this man is a nominee to be president . i cannot even fathom that this is the person that some people in this country want to lead this country. what he is doing --- i do not

even know the word for it, but it is disgusting. whatever it is, it is disgusting. ultimately, at the end of the day, i noticiced in the package you showed, someone was talking about how the resistance of nationalism at the dnc, and i noticed it, too. i notice the signs and the chants. wasat i attributed that to when you have a person who is talking about making america great again, as if america has not made strides to my and talking about taking america back to a period when i do not think it was great at all, let me not say at all, but i do not think it was as great as it could have been and did not live up to the ideals and the tenants we want to hold america to. i think that was the reasonn he hind all of that, the sense of nationalism, to basically say this is still a nation to be proud of. end keeanga, i'm going to

with a question about movements and how they fit into this process. >> i think the movements are quite critical in terms of keeping alive the issues that are most important to us, because to be honest, t there would be no discusussion about police violence and police brutality, no discussion about like lives matter without there having been, since august 9, 2014, a movement highlighting and exposing that police violence is not just a case of bad apples, that it is absolutely systemic. i actually think that in order to keep these issues alive, inn order to keep whomever is elected in november, the andndnt cannot collapse just give blind susupport for hillary clinton, becausese we do

know donald trump is not on the agenda. the movevement needs to remain medicallllindependenence -- remn politically independent with its own set of goals not tied to never becomes president. amy: we will certainly continue this discussion in months to come. keeanga-yamahtta taylor, "from #blacklivesmatter to black liberation," and janaye ingram, former executive director national action network. when we come back, we look at the vice presidential nominee, tim kaine, senator from virginia, and his time in honduras. this is democracy now! back in a minute. ♪ [music break]

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i i amy goodman. yes, we are "breaking with convention: war, peace, and the presidency." we're here in philadelphia, pennsylvania, covering the democratic national convenentio, ininside and out, from the stres to the suites to the convention floor. on wednesday night, hillary clinton's running mate, virginia senator tim kaine, delivered a primetime speech in which he spoke about the nine months he spent with jesuit missionaries in honduras in 1980. >> and that me tell you what really struck me there, i get a firsthand look at a different system, a dictatorship, a dictatorship, where a few people at the top had all of the power and everybody else got left out. amy: to talk more about t the significance of senator kaine's time in honduras, we're joined grandin, professor of latin american history at new york university. his most recent article for the nation was headlined "eat, pray, starve: what tim kaine did not learn or in his time in honduras." welcome to democracy now!

talk about what you understand tim kaine did when he took a year off of harvard law school and went to honduras to work with the jesuits. >> he spent about nine months in honduras, a jesuit mission to it he volunteered. he did pretty politically neutral work. he talked carpentry and welding. the progresso mission is in the old region of the old united food company, a lot of old former banana plantation workers, and the industry in that area was already kind of in decline at that moment. periods a very formative in tim kaine'ss life, according to tim kaine. he calls it transformational he says it made him think more about policy and about social

justice. he has used his time in honduras . he was not in political office until the late 1990's. heated politics in richmond, mayor, and became governor of virginia and senator appeared pretty much in every campaign, he has referenced in time in honduras. what is interesting about that is nine months in 1980 hundreds is the equivalent in being in germany in 1933. there was a lot going on, particularly working with the jesuits. the jesuits were on the front line of a lot of changes taking place in central america. wars, nearbyionary nicaragua in 1979, guatemala, el salvador, there were large insurgencies. they were not as christian as they were socialist. the rise and liberation of theology, you know, left-wing turn within the catholic church

in latin america had radicalized beyond just the concncn for thee to side with revolutionaries to join the revolution. not all jesuits were revolutionaries. the order were in some ways torn by debates. there were massacres. in 1980 andn won appointed a man who worked very closely with death squads. in honduras, people started disappearing. there was the beginning of the genocide in guatemala. these were consequential years. there is no way he could have spent nine months in the center of this cauldron without coming the with h the debates, dedebates within the jesuiuit commmmunity and with in that mission, should d we side with e revolution or should we be more conservative? there were just so it's -- there

were just with the both sides of that debate. what is interesting is when kaine back to the uniteded stat, no doubt it had an impact on his life. he is concerned about the country, and this speaks s to a split in the neoliberal mind. he reduces his time in honduras to a series of platitudes. it would be as if somebody spent nine months in germany in 1933 and came back with the lesson that money cannot buy happiness. that is literally what he said, paraphrasing something he's at and in interview on how honduras impacted him. he talkedo anti--- about how it made him think about the united states, and he said honduras was a dictatorship of the time, and it made me appreciate our system of government. there is a way in which the structural analysis -- amy: what was the u.s. role at the time in honduras? >> the dictatorship was

installed by the united states. it was many years old, dated back to a coup that john f. kennedy resided over after the thelution, setup to contaiain cuban revolution, and honduras was one country. that dictatatorship can be tracd back to you as patronage. stem -- as time, to it was response, under his was the front lines in the contra war. under is, exactly when tim kaine was there, was the third largest was a bit of military aid and all of latin america, honduras, country with,h, at the time, mae 2 million oror 3 million people. amy: you know, really have two minutes, and i wanted to bring well-known honduras winner

of a prestigious prize, environmentalist, and her home, she was killed. spoke about hillary clinton's role in the 2900 and -- 2009 honduras coup, and we have played that befefore. hillary clinton was secretary of state at the time. she talked about hillary clinton 's role. this will become a discussion. >> yes, hillary clinton helped legitimize and consolidate a much to the, criticism of the rank-and-file of the democratic party. during the primary, there was a lot of talk on your show, juan gonzalez asked her question during his daily news interviews with her, and largely, she skated. that debate was held on the margin. ththat campaign is now front and centering under us, and

transforming honduras from a there ise in which sharp political analysis of u.s. policy that has transformed and kind of an imaginary kingdom of feel-good uplift, hence the title, "eat, pray, starve." tim kaine has supported the militarization of honduras. yes, while he is decent and humane on n immigration, even signing a letter recently calling for a hold to horrible deportation, he structurally supports the policies of free trade and militarization that produced the poverty, violence, and immigration of c central america.a. soso that is a split in the neoliberal mind that tim kaine represents. amy: greg grandin, thank you for being with us. that does it for two weeks of breaking with convention. spececial thanks to pedro rugg

regress on his final day with us . i will be doing a report tonight at provincetown town hall in massachusetts, and saturday, july 30, in martha's vineyard. special thanks to the team here -- democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who

announcer: this is a production of china central television americica. walter: how w do you inspirere teens to volunteerer? the numbes araren't good. only a quartrterf americans age 16 and older are making time to volunteteer at leasast once a year, so volunteerism is at a record low in the united states. that's according to a 2014 u.s. bureau of labor statistics report. this week on "full frame," empowering the next generation of volunteers to make an impact worldwide. i'm mike walter coming to you from the heart of new york's times s squarere. les take it "full frame."

she's a social entrepreneur, an author, and a philanthropist. nancy lublin's online marketing and social media prowess has empowered a new generation of doers. her first foray into the nonprofit world was the founding of dress for success. it gave disadvantaged women a helping hand by providing professional attire, but dress for success was much more than that. it promoted economic independence, networking, and career development tools to help thehem succeed. 15 yearars after its launch, dress for success is now in 19 countries, but more importantly, it has helped over 850,000 women work towards self-sufficiency. named one of the world's 50 greatest leaders by "fortune" magazine and one of schwab's social entrepreneurs of the year, she currently serves as ceo of dosomething.org, one of the

world's largest organizations dedicated to young people and social change. do something boasts over 6 million online users with each committing themselves to impact their community's causes. she's not done yet. her latest venture is a first, and it's potentially a huge game-changer. it's a crisis text line providing a 24/7 support line for young people who may be grappling with emotional issues. growing rapidly since its creation in 2011, counselors currently receive 15 million texts each day. nancy joins us now to discuss the impact of the next generation of social activism. welcome to "full frame." i don't know how you have time to come to talk to us. you're--yeah, well, let's start--let's start--start there. you started 3 nonprofits. lublin: i apparently have an aversion to making money. i don't... walter: but i was going to say, they've all been successful. i mean, they've done well. um, what got you interested in this? i meanan, did your parents say, "we want you to grow up and be a philanthropist"? lublin: no. they all wanted me to be a lawyer. um, i--in the

early seventies, if you were a girl with a lot of opinions, everybody sent you to law school, so i went to law school and hated it. it's not a place for entrepreneurs. it's the place where ideas go to die, and i'm an entrepreneur. i think you're--i think i was born this way. i think entrepreneurs are born. i'm not sure they're made. walter: well, dress for success, you started that with 5,000. i mean, i gave the introduction. you know its success. i mean, at the time you ststarted it, did you say, "ok, this is going to end up in, like, 19 countries, and then i'll move on to something else"? i mean, you couldn't have imagined that, i wouldn't think. lublin: no, i didn't--i don't think i imagined it was going to be that big, but i think i always knew i would leave, um, which is a little strange about me. most--most entrepreneurs build something, and they leave in a pine box or a stretcher, right? like, it's your one thing for life, but i--i truly am to my core an entrepreneur. i get bored really easily, um, and i--i'm constantly thinking of new ideas and--and things that should be started. walter: dosomething.org, i've heard you talk about this. um,

it wasn't dosomething.org when you got there. it was doeverything.org in many respects. i mean, uh, listening to you talk about it almost sounded like it was a disaster. talk to us about why someone who's done very well for herself would want to go in and do something like this? lublin: um, i was 30, and i was getting headhunted for lots of jobs after dress for success, but i don't think anybody was really taking me seriously. i think people think entrepreneurs are crazy, and we are, but i--i think the assumption is that we're really good at vision and we're really good at the creation moment, but we're not great managers, and so i took something really messy, and i wanted to prove that, um, i could execute, and so i purposefully took something that was a disaster, um, and turned it around, so they just laid off 21 out of 22 people. um, there was $75,000 left in the bank, but they were $250,000 in debt. they had no office space. i mean, it was--it was as bad as it gets. walter: and you--you mentioned--i'veve--i've heardrdu

say this. it was aimed at kids, but it went from, like, 3 to 40 or whatever. it was kind of crazy, wasn't it? lublin: plus parents and teachers, just everybody. so, um, yeah, we had to really focus on making something for someone, which is, i think, what makes companies for-profit or not-foror-profit great. just making something because you have the ability to make it doesn't mean that anyone's going to use it or that it's vavaluable to o someone, and soe really laser focused on teens. there was not an organization in the youth space that didn't require adult, and so our basic rules s at do something are we never require an adult, money, or a car, because that's not how most 16- and 17-year-olds live. walter: but most 16- and 17-year-olds live this w way. at least this is the persona that we give them as a society. they're on--they're texting, or they're playing videogames, and they're disinterested, and yet, you're engaging them. lublin: but texting and videogames does not mean disinterested. it means they're interested in what's coming to them in their pocket and in their phone.

walter: but that's the--that's the perception of young people, and it's totally wrong, correct? lublin: totally wrong. totally wrong. they're super engaged. they're super engaged, and they're engaged--um, they're switched on to what's going on in the community. they're spending in different ways, so this is the generation that made toms shoes a multi-billion- dollar company. they really care about the planet. they care about social change, and so we're going where they are. we're going on their phones. so we have 3.7, i think, as of today, million members, and we should be 5 million members by the end of this year, and that's really because we're a mobile-first company. walter: but you're kind of turning things on its head in--in many respects, because i know a lot of people are like, "i've got a nonprofit. i'm going to figure out some way to get in front of bill gates, and i'm going to get a big giant paycheck, and life's going to be great," and your whole thing is kids. now, kids, they--they can't say, "nancy, i love this. here's the big check." that's not how it works. lublin: no, i mean, and by the way, if i did have 5 minutes in front of bill gates, he would leave without his wallet, so i would also be happy to have 5 minutes in front of bill gates.

um, and we don't ever fundraise from young people. we probably could make a lot of money off of our members, but we want their time and their talent, not their treasure. so we're mostly funded by companies who want access to those young people. so we do great campaigns. we're doing a campaign right now to recycle torn and stained clothing, which would otherwise clog landfills, and we work with h&m, and you can drop your clothes off at h&m stores, and we will collect over 400,000 pounds of clothes in about 6 weeks. so it's--these are big-scale campaigns with over 100,000 kids participating. this is--this is big-scale stuff. this is not little bake sales. walter: well, no, it's mount everest. um, i mentioned to you that i--i read the book and was confused by it. talk to us about this "xyz factor," um, and just some of the things that you've learned from young people that are now embedded in here that i can't quite figure out. lublin: so they're different. they're different from us. um, i grew up with two kinds of peanut butter. there was skip,

and there was jiffy, and i remember it was a big deal when there was crunchy and smooth, and now you have, um, you know, nut-free peanut butter, and you have sodium-free, and fat-free and, like, every--like, 30 different kinds of peanut butter in the store, and i remember having 3 channels on the television, and i had to physically get up and turn the channels, and now forget the thousand cable channels. they're not even watching tv, they're online. it's--it's a very different mindset, and we have found that that translates to workforce, also, that the workplace is different. um, so we wrote a book as a team called "xyz factor" because we keep winning awards of best place to work, and so we wrote a book that explains all our special sauce. walter: you know, the interesting thing is, i stopped listening to you when you said they don't watch tv anymore. it was a spear right through the heart, but we'll move on. maybe i should call your... lublin: online. online. walter: maybe i should text you on your crisis text line, um, which i want to talk to you about, because there's a funny side to you obviously, um, but there's a very serious side to you, because i've heard you talk about some of the texts

that you've gotten, which are--are quite moving and--and terrible, uh, and what a resource, and what a grereat id. lublin: so we text a lot of kids, right? every week, we're texting them, and it has huge open rates. you open every text you get, and it skews hispanic and urban, so we're getting very diverse kids, and we have these--lots of people doing our campaigns, but this one side effect was, really, the only people you text are your family, your friends, and do something. we have this weird side effect where whenever we send out a text about the comeback clothes campaign with h&m or other campaigns, we will get back a couple dozen text messages having nothing to do with that campaign, but things like, "i'm being bullied, and i don't want to go to school," or "i'm cutting, and i can't stop," and the worst message we ever got wasas, um, probably too gruesome to talk about here, but it--it was an awful situation from a girl having to do with her father. walter: and--and--and abuse. lublin: yeah. walter: uh, and we'll just

leave it there. and i've heard you talk about this, and obviously, you're very moved by it, but the shocking quality of gettining a text like that, it's--it's a cry for help in a way that you won't get with--with somebody getting on the phone, which you've actually talked about that, where--initially wasn't that the suggestion? call this line, and they don't want to do it. lublin: so when we got that particular message and--and all of the messages before, we would triage it and give people the hotline numbers, and with this girl, it was such a gruesome situation. we gave her the hotline number. we didn't hear back. the next day i said, "send her this hotline number again," and we've actually never heard back from her, and i--to this day, i don't know what happened to her, and, um, to tell us something so personal, so intimate, to strangers, to be that desperate for help, we realized we owed her more and the world owed her more, and so we set out to build a crisis text line, um, so that they could get help 24/7 by text. we spike every

day during lunch because it's private. so you wouldn't call sitting at lunchtime at school, but you can text us. so you're sitting at a lunch table, and maybe your friends think you're texting someone at the next table. you're actually texting us. um, so it's--to them, text is incredibly private because there's no face to face, there's no sound. they spill their guts to us by the third message, and the kinds of things they're telling us, 30% of the messages, can you guess what our most popular issues are? walter: i have no idea. lublin: so i would have thought it would have been bullying, because it's--it's in the news media a lot. it's suicide and depression. so very--severity, i mean, real issues that they're telling us very quickly, and we're able to get them help very quickly, and because it's by text and we're a tech company basically, we've layered on an algorithm so that if you text in, "i want to die" or "i want to harm myself," that goes code orange, and you go to the top of the queue. so instead of waiting chronologically like when you call another customer service number or a hotline, we don't put you on hold if you're suicidal. we handle you right

away. so the quality is good. walter: well, i was just going to say that, you know, this--this episode that you talked about and that she never cacame back and you don't know what happened to her, i--i know a lot of people who would be crushed by that and think about that all the time, and yet you turned it into action. lublin: i had to. i had to. walter: um, and it actually--it's a horrible thing that happened, but in many ways, it was a catalyst for something good. lublin: i hope she knows. i mean, i hope that she's seen an interview or read an article somewhere. first of all, i hope she's safe, and then i hope she's seen that she's actually saving lots of other people's lives. we're doing rescues twice a day. we have to send police or emt to a home to intervene in a suicide attempt. i mean, we're literally saving lives every day. walter: so you've seen each side. i mean, you've seen, uh, young kids who are--are willing to move mountains, and then you see them struggling. so what's your takeaway about the landscape out there? lublin: so i'm actually incredibly hopeful. i--i actually think this is a great generation and that these tools like social media, mobile,

they're going to use for good. some of them will be used for evil or silliness. um, you know, it's lovely that they can get food delivered more quickly and that they can find, you know, hook ups more quickly thanks to tinder. that's fine, but i'm really excited about how these tools are being used for good, um, how facebook has just helped out in nepal, how crisis text line is helping people, um, with their mental health issues, how dosomething.org is pushing millions of kids to do more volunteerism, and they're hungry for it. um, i'm really hopeful. walter: what a pleasure talking to you. lublin: you, too. walter: and keep up the great work. lublin: thanks. walter: i think it's fantastic what you've done so far... lublin: thanks for having me. walter: and--and i'll keep my eye on you. i'm sure there's more great things to come. lublin: thanks. walter: we'll be back with more from new york city in just a moment.

people choose to volunteer for a variety of reasons. most say they simply want to do something good for others. that desire is embodied in our next 3 guests. eliana stanislawski is a campaign chair for the u.s. day of the girl movement. she works tirelessly for girls' human rights. in the process, she celebrates the unique and important contributions of girls. steven rosenthal is the executive director of cross-s-cultural solutionsns. te new york native founded the organization back in 1995. now he's an expert in international development and volunteerism, and riley gallagher knows all about his organization. this past summer, she was involved in their high school volunteer abroad program. she's committed to serving india's most vulnerable children, so much so, she considers the country her home away from home. eliana, steven, riley, welcome to "full frame." eliana: thank you. riley: thank you for having us. walter: steven, why don't i start with you? so you start this organization, and it was

pretty small at the beginning. take us through the steps, and--and what was your vision, what was your goal when you first started? steven: well, i had visited a friend that was working in the peace corps in kenya just on a holiday, and i was lucky enough to volunteer with him, building a health dispensary in northern ghana--in northern, uh, ghana, and it was a terrific experience, and when i returned back from--from kenya to the united states, people said to me, "i w wish i could vontnteer. i wish that i could do what you did, but i don't have two years of my life to give." so that was the inspiration to start cross-cultural solutions, to give people an opportunity to have a really genuine volunteer experience in a short amount of time. we started in india almost 20 years ago today with one volunteer, and today we're in 9 countries throughout asia, africa, and latin america, and we send thousands of volunteers overseas each year. walter: when you started with that first volunteer, did you ever think you'd be where you are today? steven: no, when we started withth one volunteer, the--the dream was to maybe one day have

a hundred voluntee g going too inindia. so to go from there to where we are in 20 years, it's bebe an amazining experience. walter: well, we'll talk to one of the volunteers in a moment, but, eliana, let me start with you. school girls unite. talk to me about how you started with that and how that's kind of evolved in terms of what you're doing now. eliana: for sure. so school girls unite is a club at my high school that i joined when i was a freshman. i was new. uh, it's a club that does two things. one, it raises money to sponsor the education of girls living in rural mali, and that's a program that's run by local malian women, and then the second thing it does is it teaches young american high schoolers about human rights and about international issues, and we go to lobby congress and the state department and other types of things because i'm from d.c., so that was an opportunity we had available to us. so we're... walter: what got you interested right off the bat, if i can ask? eliana: uh, i didn't know anybody at my school, and i knew the girl who ran that, and

i'd always been interest--i always wanted to help people, that was just what i wanted to do, and that seemed really interesting, and then i ended up taking over the club a year later and running it for almost 3 years. walter: oh, my gosh. eliana: so--and it's a pretty small organization. that was one of t the biggest chapters of itit. walter: anand now you know some people at the school. eliana: yeah. walter: obviously. eliana: well, i've skyped with them a few times. they help me with french. walter: fantastic. riley, steven obviously influential in your life. i mean, you jumped right in indiaia. you see it your second home now. i mean, it must have been a life-changing experience. talk to us about your first foray into volununteerism. riley: s see, it was absolutely wonderful, and i've always really had a love for the world and different cultures, and i knew i wanted to volunteer in india because i'd had some experience in india before. i had gone about two years before i went with ccs, but i had an absolutely amazing experience with ccs, and, i mean, we worked with some amazing children in a rural, um, town village in india, and it was just absolutely amazing. working with these children and waking up every morning seeing

the himalayas out your window, it was just surreal and breathtaking. walterer: so everybody goes wiwh a perception of how the experience is going to be. how did that s square with what really happened with you? riley: i mean, i've always-- walter: was it even better? riley: yeah, obviously. it was wonderful, and i think that you realize when you get there how beautiful the culture is and the people and their sense of community and family, and they're just so close, and the children themselves, working with the children was absolutely amazing, as well, and just seeing that these children were so like the children in the united states and being able to take back things that i learned from the children in india and using them and applying them here, like, their sense of family and community. we really need that more here, and that's something that cross-cultural solutionss really emphasizes. walter: steven, when you listen to her--and she's a great ambassador for you--i mean, it really does speak to why this is so important, because it's not just taking somebody over and helping them. they come back enriched, as well, don't they? steven: that's right, and, yeah, first of all, i couldn't be more proud to have great

volunteers like riley, uh, and you're right. today, building bridges of understandiding acros cultures is morere important thn ever. you can see in the global challenges that we face that understanding people of other cultures is what really leads to world peace in the end, and so although our volunteers are helping and they're making a differencece in the country, thy also come back, and the change that they embody in terms of their change of perspective and the community around them that they then empower with knowledge of what's going on overseas is what really creates lasting change. walter: one of the things i like about your organization, though, is it's not, "ok, we really know everything here, and we're going to come over, and we're going to show you how to know everything." i mean, you don't come at it with that point of view. i mean, there's--there's engagement there, guidance there. there's ownership there on both sides, which is key, isn't it? i mean, that's huge. steven: that's righght. our philosophy is that local people are the experts, and so the solutions really need to come from within the community. so

our volunteers are there to lend a helping hand to help in the ways that the local community has deemed as what they need done, and in the process, the volunteers learn, they share. it's really a two-way street. we--we volunteer in the spirit of partnership, not paternalism, and this kind of equal footing is what really builds substantial change. walter: the day of the girl movement, talk to usus about t t and--and kind of your evolution, how you kind of dive in, you're in the club, and then boom, boom, boom, it's--you kind of moved along on that path, haven't you? eliana: yeah. it does kind of seem like it all happened very quickly. so the day of the girl movement, we got the idea from girls who were doing it in canada. they were pushing to make this day an internationally recognized day focusing on girls' rights, uh, and so not just feminism, but the issues of young people, because young people are a group that's often discriminated against, a and i remember hearing the idea and thinking, "what's that going to do? it's not going to do anything." and they were like, "yes, it will, i promise." and

so there were these older girls who used to be involved with schoolol girls unite who weree really p pushing for this, and then over time, they grew older, and then my generation of activists and volunteers grew older, and it becamee ththis--well, first internationally recognized, and thenen a couple of years ago, we also had presidentnt barack obaa declare it a day of action to focus on issues that are directly affecting girls in our communities, and, you know, there's so much devaluation of femin--feminin--femininity and girls in our communities at home and abroad, and so it's a really good opportunity to take action to change that. walter: but you know what's interesting is--i think you really hit on something. "this isn't going to do anything," and yet it does, and i think a lot of times people feel like they can't take that first step. eliana: absolutely. walter: that it's really not going to... eliana: mm-hmm. walter: so i want all 3 of you to talk about that, because i think that's a--it's a great message for our viewers that, you know, we all kind of get--we sit there and we just--"god, the world is so messed up, and what can i do?"

eliana: yeah. walter: and, you know, i think you're all a testament to you really can make an impact. so let's start with you. eliana: yeah, i can definitely attest to that because we wanted to view this as an opportunity to make activism and volunteerism accessible to young girls because they're told that they can't do these things, and we want them to know that they can, and so all of our projects are about providing girls with opportunities and tools to make sustainable and tangible change in their communities. so it started with a proclamation project where we were encouraging girls to contact their local governments and have a county proclamation for day of the girl, and in that process, "oh, my gosh, i can make this happen. i know how to work with my government. i know how to change a law. i know how to, you know, make something really big happen in my community." we have tool kits that we've written about how to plan different events, how to do different actions like lobbying governments, planning, fundraisers and benefit concerts. we have--we just released, um, a tool kit this year all about having meaningful and healthy conversations about gender justice with different types of people and how to have--how to

have those be respectful and useful and healthy, and so what we try to do is use the day to provide girls with the opportunity to explore all these different ways that they can be really involved, and, i mean, it's 100% youth-led. if it's--they look at us, and they say, "oh, wow, the oldest person involved with this is, like, 20 and 21. why can't i do that?" and the answer is there's absolutely no reason why you can't do that, and, yeah, that's all i have to say. walter: wewell, steven, just listening to the two women on the side of you--girls, i should say--it's got to be encouraging for you. i mean, because it does--it make--you can make a huge difference. you can make a dent. steven: yeah, that's true, and it is inspiring to see young people out there making such a difference, and--and it--it's amazing. it can seem like it's very difficult t to make a difference, but when it really comes down to it, you could go on the internet right now, register for a program like ours, and pick where you want to go, how long you want to stay, what you want to do, a

our luluntee makake real difference. eyey're w worng basically inwowo priry a are, child develoenent aneducucatn and teteracyand ththugh thth, they' s servi, ththeyrere learngng, anthey're m making the world a better place. walter: yeah. riley, you're--you're--you've taken that step, and you can't wait to go back, right? riley: yeah, definitely. i mean, from ccs, i learned, i mean, oftentimes people think that their impact will only be a nominal one, but you realize that even if you're just teaching a child some basic english or their shapes or colors or just teaching them a little bit about how to read, you see that there's an impact that's within these children, and you can see it, and it just happens before you, and it's something that's so moving and so amazing to see, and also, they change you, and the thing about cross-cultural solutionsns is it's not only a cultural immersion, 's cultltur exchange, becae e we'rere ging them setethingbut t th' also givinusus somhingng bk, and weanan feethat, anyouu can see atat, anthatat's somethg g thatou g geto wakeke up to evy y day en y yo'rere with ccs. walter: and u u and had d a chance to chat briefly about this before we started the

program. home is a key component. coming home, getting reintroduced to your society after being engaged there, people don't think about that, but that's a key part of it, isn't it? steven: that's right. coming home is--is an unexpected challenge for a lot of people. people prepare for culture shock going abroad, but coming home, there's also certain difficulties associated with thatat. at----at cross-cultural solutions, what we like to do is empower people to take what they've learned overseas and bring the world back home with them, to spread what they've learned to friends, families, people around them, take what they've learned and figure out a way to move change forward in your life and be the change that you want to s see in the woworld. so we feel like the--te experience and the opportunity to change doesn't end when you leave, it's just beginning when you come home. walter: you know, eliana, be the change, you're obviously that, but she also used the word--it's a key word--"impact." when you look at the landscape, what--what kind of impact do

you feel like you've h had with ththis--this drive for----for girls, because, as you said, you know, in other places in the world, you know, they're up against it in many respects? eliana: well, the day of the girl movement is a global movement. i'm only in charge of the united states branch of that movement. globally, it's had a huge impact. you hear about, you know--i mean, it's a united nations official holiday. so unicef, u.n. women, all these huge organizations were organizing these enormous initiatives having to do with international development, um, so that's--i mean, in terms of a global impact, it's definitely on people's radars on an internrnational level. i mean, michelle obama was tweeting about it and talking abouit with people, d,d, you knowwe have lalala ysafzfzai lkining out ititn the news. soso globay, it's definilyly heightening people's awawaress. walter: llll, w'lleave i i there becae i'm spired a motivad just tking tthe 3 of youthanks smuch f comi in. it's beenreat. eliana: ank you. riley: tnk you. lter: ally appreate it as o p panel jt showeds, ere e armany unie e vonteer oppounitieavailablto young ople, exriencethat

empowethem to ke an impa on les arounthe worl but thimportance ofinding me to vunteer ia leard value, lesson 're responsisie for paing on t the ne generatioof voluntrs. "fl frame" contritor sand hughes cently jned a oup of families oa day-ng excursn with thavery goa mind. hughes: the journey begins before sunrise. it's a short trip from los angeles across the mexican border, but for those on this bus who lead comfortable lives in southern california, it's worlds away. >> all right. [indistinct chatter] [woman speaking spanish] hughes: the tired travelers unpack and carry their supplies

to their destination, casa hogar sionon, an orphanage for about 80 children. corazon de vida, or heart of life, is the organization that sponsors the monthly trips to 12 different orphanages in baja, mexico. carmen escobeldo and her 3 children have madede this trip many times before. carmen: we have everything. you know, we're very blessed with our businessss and our home and material stuff, and i wanted to experience something different. angelica: i was so excited to come. like, i love kids, and i just--like, i realized the first time, like, after i came home from one of these trips, i was, like, sitting alone, thinking, "wow, like, i need--i don't feel alive when i'm not, you know, serving in some way." so i just--i'm hungry for more always, and i'm so glad that she, you know, brought us along. hughes: carmen's youngest son, christopher, was only 14 when he first came to an orphanage with his mom.

christopher: it's kind of nice to see someone that i look up to like my mom be able to just take the time and really make a change, and it's something that definitely inspired me to--in whatat i want to do as a career, because i wanted to go into environmental sciences, but after experiencing this aspect of--of service, i--i've kinind f changed my direction into environmental justice and activism. man: michelle. hughes: volunteering side by side, parents aren't lecturing their children. they're teaching by example how to give of themselves. susan: i want them to know that regardless of how busy you are, you can give. hughes: on this day trip to tijuana, mexico, there are many families, moms and kids, dads and daughters, and most have been here before. susan leclair has brought both her sons. this trip, 15-year-old chris was

with her. chris: my mom is a very busy person, so to put aside, like, her work, her family, and her own personal needs, to come down here and, like, give something back, it--it--it's a powerful message, really. it teaches me, like, i need to give back, as well. pacheco-taylor: the main thing with our bus trips is to have people connect with the kids. now, when you have an orphanage of 80 kids, and you only have a few staff members, the kids do not get a whole lot of one-on-one attention, so we always tell our volunteers, "your main role today is to connect with the kids and to play with them, to do arts and crafts, to do games, to really have that interaction." hughes: the interest in meaningful family trips has grown well beyond u.s. border countries like mexico and extends worldwide. it's called voluntourism, mixing pleasure with the passion to help.

a quick internet search, and you can find opportunities in just about every country of the world, working on disaster relief and conservation projects, taking mission trips in africa, central america, and nepal, enjoy the world, and do good deeds with trips designed spspecifically for familieies. pacheco-taylor: so the beautiful thing about volunteering and h having the opportunity to do, you know, what we're doing with bringing people down to--um, to the orphanage is--you know, usually, people find us on the internet. they get to a point in life where they think, "ok, i--i need to do something outside of my daily, you know, routine. i need to volunteer my work, my time some place." hughes: and according to hilda pacheco-taylor, at that point in their lives, if they have children, it can make for a meaningful family trip. pacheco-taylor: i think what they get is an amazing sense of, you know, connectedness with their parents when they're both helping together. they're

both looking at this child that needs help, at this child that's abandoned. hughes: a lesson in love that will hopefully last a lifetime. for "full frame," this is sandra hughes in tijuana, mexico. walter: coming up next, a look at the culture of volunteerism in asia. we'll be right back. since 2001, when the united nations designated an internationanal year o of volunteeeers, publicic perceptin of volunteerining in china has evevold, especiaially among youg people. in the past decade, millions have volunteered during key national events in china. that's helped to bring increased awareness and attention to social services and the country's development goals. joining us now to

discuss the state of vovolunteerism i in china and wt the next generation may bring is dr. yawei liu. he is the director of the china program at the carter center and the associate direrector of the e ca resesearch center in a atlanta, georgia. he's also an adjunct professor of political science at emory u universitity. welcomo "full frame," dr. liu. liu: it's great to be here. walter: let me take a step back to 2001. whahat were somome of e events that ococcurred then, and--and did that really get, basically, a jump--jump-start the whole volunteerism kick there in chinana, do you think? liu: yeah, obviously, that's the year of 9/11, and the united nations knocked on the door and said, "you know, we want to make this year the year of international volunteerism," and the party leaders said, "great. you know, bring it in," and the one of the most famous ladies of china, the iron lady, wu yi, vice premier, cheered the whole effort. so that put volunteerism on the map in china, so to speak, and all the party and state agencies and department, you know, joined the

chorus, and--and the whole country was mobilized to make this a part of a new china, so to speak. walter: and the u.n. tracks this sort of t thing, and--and they kind of feel that 2008 was kind of a seminal year f for china for two reasons, tragedy and triumph. i mean, this horrendous earthquake that really shook the nation, 70,000 people died, and then the triumph piece of it, the--the olympics coming to beijing. let's take a look at the earthquake first. what did you see happen when it came to thehe government a and to the people after that traragedy? liu: well, obviously, china had a bigger tragedy back in 1976. in 1976, when the earthquake happened, china actually denied all international help, and, of course, chinese people themselves were not able to rush to the zone of--of disaster, whereas when the earthquake in sichuan happened in 2008, you know, this is the age of the internet, so the

news spread wide and far, and many chinese, you know, they were different from when they were back in 1976. you know, they--they had more resources at theheir fingertips, and t the are more non-governmental organizations. they all wanted to rush in to help, and, of course, because of the lack of coordination, we had more than the government could handle at the time, so--but quickly the government responded, and there was much better and more efficient coordination of the volunteers, and i think the government learned a tremendous lesson, that the society actually can deliver a lot more to where services are needed. walter: and so months later in august, you--you have the olympics. did they harness some of that? i mean, did you see a lot of volunteers at that time, too? liu: no, i think the olympic games was different, becauause olympic games you had the assistance and help for the international olympic games. you know, the chinese send their officials all over the world to the cities where olympic games were held. so

that was a much more sophisticated process in terms of recruiting, and i think they had more than they really needed. my daughter also wanted to volunteer, and she filed an application online, wanted to go back to china, but she was never able to hear from the committee. walter: heh heh heh! so she missed out on that volunteering opportunity, but a l lot of the young people tooook advantage of it, didn't they? liu: yeah, i think, you know, college students and junior government officials, even higih school students, you know, they took advantage, and according to the u.n. report, you know, 1.7 million volunteers, and if you calculate their volunteer hours, it could be translated to several hundred million u.s. dollars. that's--so, that's a lot the government was able to save. walter: that is a lot. let me ask you about young people and--and what they're eager to volunteer for in china today, do you think? liu: i think the youngng people, it depends on whwhich group of

young people, whether you're referring to the young people like the high school, where i think they are just way too busy. the study load is way too high for them really to think about seriously volunteering. if you refer to the young people in the universities and colleges, you know, they--they want to be involved. they want to be involved in social services. they want to be involved in terms of going to the countryside. they particularly want to look at migrants in the cities where they don't have equal access to education, to healthcare. you know, they were involved in terms of setting up schools for them, setting up of legal aid centers for them, and many of them, of course, wanted to even go out of china to african countries and other developing countries to volunteer their services. walter: so stepping back to 2008, do you think those--those two critical evevents were building blocks to--for what--where we are not in terms of volunteererism in cnana?

liu: not really. i think china--because, you know, i--when i was growing up, there was this famous soldier by the name of lei feng. you know, lei feng is about volunteerism, and in 1963, mao zedong and all the other state leaders called the whole country to learn from him. so i wouldn't say 2008 put the building blocks. you know, i mean it was--it was there. it was dormant because of the reform, because of the introduction of the market economy, so people tended to focus more on taking care of themselves, and--so 2008 was a turning point only because, you know, these two events, as you mentioned, one very tragic one, and the other a victorious glorious one, that really, you know, sort of woke up that dormant spirit and--and made people think that, you know, "i probably have more to offer

to--to the country and to the society." walter: you talked about the government. the government, of course, came out with the china'a's twelfth, this 5-yearar plan in 2011. what were some of the goals elucidated in the plan? liu: well, the plan itself, you know, the twtwelfth, which means--you know, it started a long time ago. it was really a--a soviet legacy of state economic planning every 5 years. what made the twelfth--fifth--5-year plan different from the previous ones was because this is the first one that declared to the whole nation. you know, the plan is not just about gdp. it's not just about economic growth. it is also about creating a more harmonious society. it is about reduction of poverty. it is about making rural residence and urban dwellers more equitable, and that actually has created more

channels for the society force to be involved, and, of course, you know, volunteerism is a big part of that societal force. walter: can you talk to me about corporate social responsibility initiatives there in china? what are you seeing on that front? liu: i think corporate social responsibility is something that was introduced in china firstly by international corporations like microsoft, like bare, like exxon, and, you know, they're in china, they're doing business, they understand fromom their corporate history, in order for the companies to sustain their development, in order for their product to be popular among any country's people, you have to engage the community at large, and the chinese corporations have learned, and both in china and outside china, the big state enterprises, as well as more private, but also multinationals like huawei and zte, they have

now all engaged in corporate social responsibility activities. they're engaging the community. they're involved in education, you know, involved in art educatioion. they're involved in poverty reduction, and they have done a good job, and--and i think this is a big part of the internationalization that china is going through. walter: you know, when you look at corporations, they can mobilize so many people and--and point them in--in directions and really make an impact, but we've also seen a dramatic impact t through the ages from grassroots, smaller organizations. are we seeing mumuch of an impact t there? are you seeing that startiting to mobilize, as well, in china? liu: i i think they are growing, and according to the--to the u.n. report, you know, there are multimillion ngos in china. there are also 4 million--i--i think they're talking about 20 to 40 million registered, you know, at different levels, and also 4 million ngos at the

grassroots level that were never able to register or chose not to register. so they're all there. the--the issue here is how do you make them more engaged? how do you monitor them? how do you create standards that all these ngos will have to apply to their activities and--and programming, but more importantly, how they're going to be protected, and--and how they can easily, in a very public and transparent way, to register with the government and then after the registration to operate independently? walter: you're kind of sitting on the sideline. you have a nice view from where you are. if you were to recommend sosome changes to realllly enhance volunteerism in china, whwhat might t they b? liu: i--i think, first of all, you need to have a law for--for the ngo, how do you register, how you're going to raise your money, how you're going to file with--with the government. you know, it--it--it is like here

in the--in the u.s., you know, you can have a nonprofit, and basically the internal revenue service is the one that monitors activities of the nonprofit. in china, you don't have such a mechanism, and all the government and party departments and agencies are involved. when--when you have all of them involved, you don't have anybody involved, and--and therefore, there is no centralized guidance on--on this issue. so the national people's congress will have to be quick in promulgating a law so that there will be both regulation and protection, and then the government can always, you know, sort of on the front, but at the same time, give the ngos enough room to move around. walter: dr. liu, thanks so much for joining us from atlanta. it's been great talking to you. liu: it's my pleasure. thank you. walter: when we come back, how one teen's dream to battle discrimination is finding a

global plalatform. 16-year old ziad ahmed is a bangladeshi-american muslim living in princeton, new jersey. shortly after the september 11, 2001 terror attacks in the u.s., he saw firsthand the misconceptions and prejudice people had about islam. ziad saw a need to speak out, to have a voice not just for himself but for others who felt alone in defending who they are and where they come from. two years ago, he started a website called redefy. it's an online place for young people to share their stories in order to help others defy stereotypes and embrace acceptance. his work is so renowned, he was recognized by the white house. in fact, his efforts earned him a seat at president barack obama's dinner

table this past summer. he's here to share e more about his journey. pretty incredible journey, i might say, too. ahmed: thank you. walter: welcome to "full frame." ahmed: thank you for having me. walter: so tell me about starting this. what--what was the deciding factor that you felt like you had to do something? ahmed: so i don't think there's any one moment or thing that made me--that prompted me to start redefy, but it was my entire life experiences coming together, realizing that i had to be part of starting and initiating a positive change in this world. that really prompted me to start redefy. so the summer before my freshman year, um, in 2013, i said to myself, "looook, there's this community need." i see so manyny of my friends, so mamany people in t this world being ostracaci, excluded, marginalized because of who they are, where t they come from, and people are just dedefenseless, and--and i've never had a problem speaking up for r myself and defendingng my faith h and my ethnicity and my attributes, but there are so many people who don't have that same confidence. so i thought to myself, how can i better the

situation? what can i do to make this better? so i went about creating redefy, because even me, myself, like, there were so many m misconceptionss that i held, and even--even as i go through this journey, i learn so much more about the diversity that exists in our world, um, and i wanted to create a platform by which teenagers could really become educated about these issues and engaged in them. so i started this website and reached out to some of my friends to really start this movement, and--and i've been very fortunate to see it b blossom from there.e. walter: ok, but you're a teenager. most teenagers are thinking about going out on a date or perhaps getting a better locker, so, i mean,n, was this a hard sell with other teenagers? like, "why, man? why do we want get all involved in this?" or--or did you find that you had a receptive audience? ahmed: i mean, i'm fortunate to live in princeton, new jersey, and be surrounded by an incredible group of young people and adults, obviously, at princeton university, that are really engaged in issues that are most pertinent to our society. so in that way, i definitely had friends and people who are supporting me from the--from the get-go. however, my--my biggest

obstacle con--my biggest obstacle in my work continues to be trying to convince teenagers that we can have efficacy despite our age, and--and one message that i want every person who hears me speak to--to really fully understand and comprehend is that our age does not limit our activism and that our voices, despite all else, can be heard, and--and--and if anything, they're heard more because of our age, because we're more vulnerable, because we're more innocentnt, because we know what is happening now. it's real. these issues affect us, and i think that as i do things, like go on cctv, and i--and i inincrease m my visibility, andi use my voice to advocate for justice, people are listening, and more and more teenagers are willing to be involveded because they see firsthandnd with me as anan example that, "he y you knw what? teenagers can make a difference, they are making a difffference, , and we want to e part of this." walter: september 11th, a terrible tragedy here in the united states, and yet we saw so many good things come of it, where people lined up to give blood, and--and that--that--that was early on,

but then we saw the ugly side of it, which obviously got you interested in doing what you're doing. what happened after that terrorist attack that you started to see in terms of discrimination or just prejudice, people saying things or doing things that really kind of galvanized your interest in doing what you're doing today? ahmed: i mean, i--i--i want to make clear first of all that i'm not justst inspired to do thisis work because of anti-muslim bigotry. bigotry of all forms, like, deeply, deeply, deeply hururts my heart everery time i see it. there are just so many people being discriminated against in this world for thingsgs that they can't control, and--and thatat s why i do this work, not just because of anti-muslim bigotry, but certainly, after 9/11 and in a world where anti--anti-muslim bigotry is so rampant and so normalized. it's a huge issue, and i deal with it every single day of my life, whether it be after an article is written about me, and in the comments there are just disgusting things, saying about how i'm just going go back to isis the next day and

how my work k doesn't hahave validity because of my faith and that it's a front forr anti-semitism and just gross things because people aren't even willing to click on the links. they just see the word "muslim" and catategorized that with gross thoughts because of the way the media has misconstrued my faith. it's something that i deal with every day and something that i am working towards to defeat, because we cannot continue to paint a people with one brush, whether it'd be muslims, whether it'd be the lgbtq-plus community, whether it'd be any community. we are more than the labels that society y gives us, anand i will keep saying it untl the day i die. walter: what about social engagement, social justice engagemement with teenagers? u , you--i--i was looking at your website. you got a lot of people involved in this, from your school and elsewhere, around the world, in fact. um, talk to me a about the ripple effects. once you started to crcreate this, whehen did you ut to see other teens say, "hey, this connects with me," and identifying with what you were after? ahmed: so, i i think that--originally, it was just me and 4 o of my friends, , but

then i really saw a lot of people being interested in the wo and being like, "ziad, how can i hehelp? how can i get involved in promoting acceptance and promoting diversity?" and so we created a school representatives t team, and after we did that, we saw people all over the world, a lot of my friends that i've made through summer programs and things of that sort, reaching out and being like, "i want to be a part of this. i want to be a part of this movement. i want to be a part of the solution," and since then and since we've had more ofof a media presesence and as e grow in visibility, now we get applications on--for our team from all over the world from people who have just heard about us through the internet or people who just see one of our tweets that's been retweeted or things like that, and i think social media and the internet has been instrumental in allowing us to amplify our message, because what we can dodo is we can say--we e blish qualality content, we allow for anyone to publish stories, we--we publish--we--we post on social media. we do all these things that can reach a really huge audience. we have almost 2,000 likes on facebook, over 30,000 hits on our website, and we're growing every single day, and

that allows us to engagage peope from all over the world and really target to the youth because that's who we're trying to engage. walter: so if--if somebody's never gone to your website, what kind of stories are they going to read? what--what are some of the things that they're going to see there? ahmed: well, we hope to be a place where on our website you can see the whole gamut of diversity that exists, and we're trying to get there as we grow a more diverse and more complete team and a more international team, but you'll see stories of people trying to rec--trying to reconcile where they live, with their school, and how people--and their perception to people's faith, and ststories of peoplple sayin, "why do you wear that hijab? what does that mean? y you're a teterrorist," peopople saying, u don'n't belong herere," people saying, "you're not--you're smart for a black k kid or "you don't belong in honors classes because of your race." just--and really m moving stories, reaeally raw, intimimae ststories of teenagers, youth dealing with these issues and having to deal with ththings tht are just completely unfair, people just saying t these uneducated, misinformed, ignorant statements, not necessarily out of malice, but

just out of severe mis--miseducation. we have a lack of education in----in this country and in this world about minonorities, about hehearing narratives that arare different from our own, and what redefy hopes to be is a platform by which we can educate ourselves about narratives that we would otherwisise be unfnfamiliar wit, uneducated about, and that where i think--that's where i think the power lies. walter: let me ask you about hehere in the united statates, because i think--this will connect with you. i mean, if--if you're here in the u.s. and you want to watch news and you have a certain bias. uh, let's say, i--i tend to go to the right. i'm going to watch fox news because it's basically a mirror. everything that i believe is going to be sent back to me. perhaps i'm on the left, and i watch msnbc and everything--so how do you--you're obviously going to connect with the people that you want to connect with who are like-minded. how do you move over and get the people that really need to get on board and start seeing the world in a different way? ahmed: absolutely, absolutely. so one of the things that i did, because i--i saw that issue from the get-go, is, we--so we recently

restructured, um, because before it was what you're saying, "you're interested in social justice, come work with us, come see what we have to offer." but now, under our new restructuring, we have a programming team. we have a journalism team. we have an advocacy team. we have all these different teams, so it's like, "hey, you're really interested in prograramming. you can code in c++. come and join our team and be educated through that process." "you're really into writing. you like journalism. come join our team and you could be educated through that process." so what we're trying to do is use people's existing interests and have that intersect with our mission and have people become educated and aware about our work in that way, and hopefully that prompts them to be part of this larger solution. walter: i had the great fortune to meet your mom, who's sitting righght over there, um, whwho is just basically on fumes trying to keep p with you. you're going a hundred mimiles an hour, but i get the sense that your parents helped shape who you are today. ahmed: absolutely, absolutely. walter: how so? ahmed: i i would not be half the person i am without t my parent. i think that my upbringiging has been the--the key foundation to

my activism. my parents from--from--from my birth have--have told me that it's my duty to give back to humanity. they took me to bangladesh, and i saw poverty firsthand. they didn't shut off the news. they allowed me to watch the news. they wanted me to be informed about the state of our reaealit, and because of that--because of the exposure that they gave me, the--the tools that they empowered me with, i knew that this--that this world had so many injustices anand that it ws my duty to be part of the solution, that i had to fight for humanity, that i couldn't be complacent in this--in this injustice, thahat as a human being, as part of humanity, it's our responsibility to better it. we can't just sit here a and be lilike, "that's somebody else's job." it's our collective responsibility. we look at syria, we look at the syrian refugee crisis, it's not syria's problem, it's not europe's problem, it's our problem, and my parents inspired that within me because they showed me that we are one people first, and that's whatat we have to rally behind. w wha's most important to all of us is creating a world where a

safe--where our children can be safe, where our children could be accepted, but the only way that's possible is if we all rally bebehind that same idea. f we all recognize that all of our children deserve to be safe anand accepted, they w will be, because we value each other as human beings, because we stand up for what's right, and because we stand together as humanity. walter: well, we will leave it there. thanks so much for coming on and talking to us. ahmed: thank you so much for having me. walter: and that's it for this week. join the conversation with us on social media. we are "cctv america" on twitter, facebook, and youtube, and now, you can watch "full frame" on our new mobile app, available worldwide on any smartphone for free. get the latest news headlines and connect to us on facebook, twitter, youtube, and weibo. search "cctv america" on your app store to download today. all of our interviews can still be found online at cctv-america.com, and let us know what you'd lilike us to tae "full frame" next. simply email us at fullframe@cctv-america.com. until then, i'm mike walter in

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