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>> even for palestinian terrorists knowing that they were terrorists as a doctor, as a person, i did my best, and now there were two terrorists. and if it was necessary to do again to terrorists, i would do it. she's 20 years old. nothing she's seen in life. and then she's sent to kill. you see it as a part of a struggle? >> no. i said for me killing is wrong. i mean, i've heard all kinds of justifications. i can take as a german and someone that knows about politics, i can tell you what some people say, suicide bombing, this is what they say, is the poor man's weapon. >> i know, i know what they say. >> they say israel can send something like this, missile, anand instead of the missile,
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they use human being. >> the military says it's courageous, it's not what i'm told that i'm going to attack 70 virgins. you don't believe everything. >> no, no, don't worry. >> jamal is so happy. >> no, no. >> for me the only solution is a one-step solution. because the situation now -- >> how one step? >> one-step solution. one person, one vote. >> where? >> all over the land. >> jamal, you don't differentiate in what is needed and what is -- what is needed is love and peace. but we are not so good. >> i was with kahlil.
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let's go here. >> we were like what i would say -- >> let's listen to the music. >> i think i'm going to come back and crash that guitar. that would bring a moment of comedy. are hundreds of checkpoints throughout the occupied territories to make the israelis feel safer. the palestinians, on the other hand, see these checkpoints as a method for the israelis to humiliate them and control their lives.
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important to meet one of the leading gunmen of the palestinians. he was the leader of a brigade and agreed to see us in an area that saw some of the worst fighting between palestinian resistance and the israeli army. we met him in one of the many hideaways which made the israelis and our crew very nervous. as i don't understand arabic, he talked to us in hebrew.
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inside these settlements that the israelis have been building all over the territories. so we decided to visit a leader of the settlement movement and someone david interviewed at the right wring rally in jerusalem. >> changing times here. 28 years, the majority of the people in the west bank are now jewish. and this was our goal. we are so desperate for peace. but the first step is to stopping the devil. only after stopping the devil, of course, the blocks, then we can move, of course. and then we will have the opportunity to work togethther and look for the solution. >> just to tell you, they say stop the occupation. that's what they say. they remove the occupation.
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>> part of the thininking is th everyone said like children, you be first, you be first. let's try together. >> when the palestinians would stop the terror, i will be the fighter to have the palestinians human rrights. but we are making a comparison between our rights and theirs. because what they're doing to my settlement here, making life. >> is it possible for you to think that one day we can have a binational state? because i know you talk about a jewish state and so forth, and this is the core of zionists.
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but i'm not part of the core of zionists. >> i have a suggestion for you. and my suggestion iis, and this is a great compromise that i'm giving up on the other side of jordan. >> you don't have jordan. >> yes. >> you don't have it. >> we are giving up because this is originally part of the lands of israel. and we are giving up on this part. and i'm telling you that your inspiration -- your aspiration can be accomplished there. but you can live here and you will get here all the human rights. but not not your aspiration.
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>> it took us three hours just to get through the checkpoint letting us kneel kahlil, hebron. this neighborhood has been taken over by jewish settlers and they are protected by this check poibt here, tthis israeli checkpoint, 24 hours a day. i don't know how people do it on a day-to-day basis, but i'm getting very frustrated. >> i've been here since the settlement made life. that was his whole story. we decided to go to hebron, the palestinian city in which the settlements have taken over a whole neighborhood and pushed out the palestinian majority. there we visited the home of a long-time residents and one of the few homeowners who has
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>> an israel ya soldier who had served in hebron defending this very settlement is breaking the file. they are a group of israelis who served in the military and have decided to become witnesses to the injustices that take place there. they seek to educate the public through lecture and photography. >> in is not something i know
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group of children today. what is there for you when you become 18? 36% of the boys have to go. 45% of them witnessed the beating and the killing of their fathers. they immediately switch from the helpless father, who could not protect them, to somebody who is more thoughtful. jews who are armed with machine guns and military jeeps
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>> under the deep strains of the current intifada, very few israelis went on examining how to make core examples tense happen. she is -- core existence. >> i asked to speak with prime minister netanyahu. i wrote to him five times. and then he doesn't want to speak with me. in the letters i wrote i want you to look me in the eye and to tell me that my son died for a reason. i want you to look at me. he never had the courage to do it. i feel a responsibility to help other children.
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i'm a kind of pilgrim who goes around and says, look, this has to be stopped. when you leave here you can forget the slums of italy. you u can thk yyou're in new york or milan or in paris. most of the people have televisions, and if i haven't drove on purpose, i think i would be in club immediate in tel aviv. >> does that throw any parallel to you with the building of this wall and they let the jewish population in there? >> let's look for who is more guilty, who did worse things, and i really don't care. i think -- i even don't think that the people who were killed in the holocaust were all good
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people. they were just victims, not good and not bad. victims. and the palestinians at this moment are victims. they're not better than me. they're just victims. and i don't want them to be victims. but why compare it? >> i don't compare it. my problem with it is i think if you've gone as a generation through such suffering why you don't sympatathize with the new victims. >> i do. >> not you personally, but i'm just saying this is to me very troubling. because, you know, you meet people all the time that tell you, offense, my grandfather died mere, my aunt died there. and i'm like, are you blind? do you see when they build the the wall, the germans also built a wall and create a ghetto. >> you know, the son knows it
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hurts. but most of the children have been hiten by their parents, they hit their children. most of the men that have seen their fathers hitting their wives, then hit their wives as well. they have been victims, and then they are the ones that make someone else victims. so you don't know from suffering. >> before ending our trip we knew we had to go to the wall itself in order to understand the latest phase of this ongoing separation. we went to a suburb of jerusalem where the wall cut through that village and divided it into two halves, separating family members from each other, preventing people from going to their places of work, and children from going to their schools. i think it's
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you could slice a neighborhood into two and believe that you can stop people from going to prayer or shopping and just bashed wire and cement -- barbed wire and cement are gogoing to create more hatred. >> the war that she spoke to us about was part of israel's largest national project since the beginning of the occupation four decades ago. they are maintaining that they are building this wall to prevent suicide bombing and
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it's supported by 85% of israel's population. everyone in israel understands that it's bound to become a future border. the problem with the wall is it does not really follow the 1967 border. it cuts deep into palestinian territory and what would become the future palestinian state. a took us on a tour to explain to us the thinking behind the building of these walls. >> the problem today between left and right is that security is mixed with politics. a guy from the neighborhood was sitting right here waiting for the bus and he was stabbed to death. and i can assure you that the one who stabbed him to death did not come from this arab
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neighborhood, he came from somewhere in the west bank or from the east bank. but the fact that he was stabbed by an arab or the people who live here, they couldn't care less if the arab is yellow, green, comes from africa. for them an arab is an arab. in september 2000 the palestinians started to shoot through the jewish neighborhoods, and the authorities had to protect the kindergarten over here, and they put up this wall put up by the neighborhood council. but nevertheless, it's quite ugly. but if they shoot from the other side toward the kindergarten, what other measure you can take in order to protect the children?
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to believe that there is something else? >> i used to have a speech that said you're looking, you're looking, and it could be the solution somewhere. you totally don't foresee. >> yeah. the wall of berlin came down, south africa turned upside down and unimagined things can happen. >> yeah. >> but where they're saying about driving in israel, don't be right, be clever. because if you enter and you say m right, i drive in, you get into such a collision, this is -- it's better to have a strategy, , to be clever, what you do when you enter this next intersection. >> i think the solution is on the israeli side. always the solution is with the person with the power and the
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control. . wway i have fouound is this project, whicich iss calleled s ththe childrdren. saving palestinianan children w have every right to leaead. no aidd isis able get too them, , they dieie. theyey have almomost 600 childr. israeli and palestitinian doctc have worked on them. rereconciliationon is working together. i don't think we needed
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reconciliation. i think we work together as if there was already peace. i hope that things can change and i always believe that the power is in the people. so they can make the change. and it depends on that. >> i think that i hope we can make children not to hate my neighbors, my arab neighbors. testimony we're good neighbors, one day we will dance together. . otx1y1dd
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laura flanders. we've been inin philadelphia, te site of refuge,e, rebellilion, d remote -- and revolt. there has been a letter debate at the democratic national convention.. lots of action o on the coconven floor at the w wells fargo aren, as well as on the streets. hillary clinton made history inindispably, becocoming the presidential nominee of the democratic partyty. the first woman. her opponent, bernie sanders said he gave her his support. but his voters, many of them, made up their own minds. hundreds chose to walk off the
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convention floor in protest at what theyy saw was a rigged process. wewe will talk about continuing the revevolution, the peoplple's revolutionon, and what that's going toto take ththis wk on "te laura flanders show." welcome. we are glad you are watching. [applause] >> the story that it left the most is the woman's rights movement. what are you marching in the street for? you think you're going to dodo a revolution? that is impossible. but guess w wt? we combmbined wh peoplele powower did the imposs. >> we know that hillary is going to be the nominee for the presidential election. i am very excited. >> we need the first woman president. stein.t is jill
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[applause] so let's fight for the greater good. [chanting] when the people are under attack, what do we do? >> we have got to elect hillary clinton. [boos] [chanting] bully and aa demagogue. [yelling] trump has made bigotry and hatred the cornerstone of his campaign. [applause] ago, butdays come and the fight for social economic, recent -- raciall and
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environmental justice continues. >> the later of our revolution, which shall continue-- [applause] >> bernie sanders! >> 22 votes for our beloved senator sanders. [cheers] by nominating that hillary clinton-- [applause] [cheers] ♪ ♪ >> the fear of trump is great. they are even more afraid of a disastrous campaign.
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this isn't about hillary clinton or wikileaks or anything like that. that's about corporate media. we are at the heart of the media at the dnc. what does it take to get real issues, the 99% of the people's revolution reported by the mainstream media? >> this is about all of humanity having access to a quality of life. black lives matter! >> we can have an america and the world that works for all of us. ♪ > has any of what the sende's
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campaign brought to the democratic party in the way of critique sunk in? will it make any difference? here is the mayor of tallahassee, andrew golub. and up and comer inside the democratic party. welcome to thehe party. anandrew, are e you feeling thae sandnders messagege, or any crie of establishmentnt to my creredt party popolitics h has been heh? andrew: absolulutely. 45% of the d delegates were bebe sanders delegegates. ththat was the highest number of delegates nonot there on n the r for ththe nominee since jesse jackckson. pretty extraordinary feat all by itself. bernieie sandersrs has had the ability in his supupporters of transforming what would have otherwise been a statatus quo platform. leaves, heads, and shoulders difffferent and more progressive
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than what comes from the right. but even on our side having the ability to push the limit on everything from access to college and get and loan repayment to free tuiuition. toto the stances that he and his supporters are kicking around healalth care reform and pushing us a bit f further. i firmly believe these movements have to be book ended by folks whwho push us s to the edges, wo called those who are in the safe space to expand their authority. it requires folks to p put the markers s further out in order r those ththat tend to be in the middle to ststress themselves.s. laura: what happens next? within the party, and i'll ask you about t your work. andrew:: my hope is that one wil listen. this is not goingg away, the challenges that are e showing up in city streets allll around the countrtry. not just t the ones wewe see broadcast t on a television.n.
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not justst the ones on youtubebe videdeos are coming out after. every day there arare communitis and people who are hurting inn deep ways. the problems they are sufffferig from our very -- from are very nuanced but granular in nature anand require intentionanal planning.. been greeeees have generationonally and interchangeably surely played by these problems. the challenger means whether we can rise to it. whether the establishment can rise up to the challenges is the question. we have to hold them accountable. laura: you are a mayor of a major city in americaca. tallahassee, florida, in a contented state. what are you going to be doing coming back from this convention?? when iw: most imimmediately get backck, i plan t to do everything that i can to ensure the white house for democratic nomiminee. this election matters who is in the white house. but it also matters to his inner
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states andnd cities. these problems show up on a street corners and in our commmmunities. they call on the mayor and other president when trying to get these kinds of issues addressed. whether it's poverty or bad health conditions or unemployment and stagnant wages. they show up o on our streets in very real l ways. i haveve to squarere my shouldeo the tech ththat i have been elected to do. to attack these problems. again, not putting band-aiaids over thehe issues, but trying to geget underneath it. what a are the core problemems t are rereally driving the outflo? not feeding the symptom. i think we do that too often in public policy. we will hire more line for officers. -we get rid of poverty? had we create letters of opportunities? that is the difficicult work. laura: final question, have youu been changed in any way by the center's revolt? revolt?e sanders
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andrew: you know i have. unlike college campus s i was railing against jeb bush and the affirmative-e-action and his signatures. i carry foodod into the floridaa state capitotol when dreaming defenders were sleepining on ththe-- when dream defendeders e sleeping on n the cobblestone floor before we even heard black lilivematter. i've also the e head of a police department that i have to give support and encouragement to, but alsoso hold accountable when things go bad. it's a very difficult popositio. i have the lived experience of a black man in america raising black kids. but i have the responsible -- i have the experience of beingng a respsponsible person and in charge of a law enforcementt involved in the long order of her own community.
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it is challenging, i will admit that. laura: and the power of money? andrew: there wasas a huge conversationon around the influeuence of money in electio. i am a firm believer we have to do something drastic on cititizs united. the a constitutional amendment, or electing a congress that is responsive to the people. that is an i issue democrats and rerepublicans seseem to come totogether on, the over influene of money inn politics and d in popower. but i have a sneaky feeling that's goining to be a long-ter. popower sees nothihing without a demand and it will have to be aa bipartisisan effort, one that probably comes in the grassroots of demanding change. laura: thank you very much, from frederick douglass is lip's to your ears. andrew gillum is the mayor of tallahassee, florida. i think were going to see more of him. ♪
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in the little women have been particularly excited, especially democratic women about the nomination of hillary clilinton, the first woman to runun f president on a major party titicket. this history being made here no question. is it a history of revolutionn that w will bring everyone? it is it a hisistory of revolutn that will really take seriously the importance of sexisism? not just of someone at the top of the ticket, but someone down at the bottom of one? i have two people with me that have a lot to say. we have a writer, film maker, blogger, and cultural worker. women'sks with commmmunity revitalization project. walk on both, glad to have you. laura: first off, the headlines are blurring. ladies first, women's first, herstory, every possible permutation. ? ? are you feeling it aisha: it is a real movement
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coming from another. i am f feeling it in terms of im aware that this is history before my eyes. laura: and what about you? nora: i do,o, and those that i talked you are feeling it will stop t to see someone in that re makes me remember a lot about what i can do as a woman. laura: talk about your community. who do you worork witith? nora: i work in north philadelphia with low income families, usually women and kids. that is who is poor in o our neighborhood and around the country. this focuses around the organization that i work for. laura:a: is ththat a feminist i? nora: i think it has to want to do with h sexism. we don't earn as m much. pepeople are lososing jobs, losg hohours since the recession and are really affected by this.s. there is no moving up and moving out based on this recession for our people. laura: what do you think? aisha: i come to this as you
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have already noted, as a filmmaker and cultural worker. i have documented violence against women, black women in communities. i noticed is that whilile we are talking about all of the tremendous inroads that are happening g in this historic color, i think women of indigenous women, asian women, we are not included -- it's like this umbrella, but so many of the images are still when we talk about these issues, still a mainstream medicine. -- mainstream feminism. laura: you are being kind, in a sense. sometimes mainstream is a euphemism for white. i will say talking about sexism on the stage of the democrat national convention this week has been frustrating. i keep seeing when the topicic s femininism or sexisism, and the evils of the republican assault on women's rights, the people that speak our own white women.
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and when the subject is racism or police killings, most of the victims are men, and most t of e people, most of the roles that we see for women of color are griever in chief. not to make light of them. aisha: black women's voices have been at the forefront of these movements, but what gets projected our white women as victims. when we think of rape victims we don't think of black latina agents. laura: why does it matter that we change thatat? aisha: because if we are going to end violence against women then we have to change our psyche about who gets raped.d. laura: and about who our notion about who is a poor family household maybe e needs to chan. or who is the breadwinner. nora: it's clear that in our neighborhood 80% of those that are poor our families headed by women. women working very hard, often sometimes receiving public benefits, but i in numerous
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miminimum-wage jobs, just trying to make it. laura: with all this history making, people excited to contntinue the women's m movemet this onene more step. but last titime around, the women's movement did not bring everybody. it was way too whihite and way o homophobic. but have we made progrgress on intersecting gender r with race and class and sexuality? aisha: i think we've made progress but not at the levels we need to make it. and again, back to the disability, speaking as a lesbian. -- to visibility, digging is within, images of queer people tend to be white. we can look at the leaders of the# blacklivesmatter,2 of 3 women have been queer. queer wowomen of color have been at the forefroront of international change. laura: how does that change the
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picture? aisha: it changes the movement in terms of the image of what evokes change. i think it's always the margins of the margins that free us, right? queer folks, trans people of color -- when they get free, we all get free, i believe. ♪ laura: so how was the international media looking at our elections? rereference at mosaic from linkv take a look. [applause] ♪ >> this special report frorom te 2016 national c convention. and a review of the world reaction to ouour electction. mosaic compares how w these broadcasters around the world are covering the lead up to the november election. let's begin in russia. at this american-style diner, courtesy of returns bbc. a polling agency inin the government found that in nearly
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all of the g20 countries, the world's largest economies from brazil to china, it's people -- if people there could vote, they would vote for hillary clinton. there wawas one exceception to . russia, acaccording to the surv, people here would vote for donald trump. [speaking russian] [laughghter] >> russia has its own english language channel, rt, making g t clear whitite russia lovestruck. >> donald trump has put forward ideas that no mainstream american politician n would dar. mr. trump: : nato is obsololete. the good relationship with russia. i get along well with vladimir putin. iran's english-language press
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tv is critical of the u.s. often. it's no surprise there convention focus was on the protesters. >> at least 18 people arrested during the protest outside of the republican national convention. this brings 23 the t total numbr arrested at the trump rally since the convention began on monday. >> frienends 24 consulted with n expert -- frarance 24 coconsultd with an expert to say thathe u.s. and europe are more similar than ever before. >> anti-globalization, immigration, refusal to be politically correct -- these are all topics that we know well. populism f from the right wing,a more radical left, and those confined from m the candidacy. mr. trump: let's say china. >> there's only one country trump is famous for obsessing about. >> china. china. china. >> but the candidate that china
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of t this is abobout is clinton. >> the u.s. does not take position on any territorial claim, but they don't have the right to pursue it through intimidation or coercion. >> china has been objectingng ta ruling by ththe international court in a dispute over the south china sea. and they blame hillary clinton. >> on that day right after clinton signed the accord with the philippines, she used the philippine self-made term u.s. some of the c w when she e refed toto the southth china seaea inr speech. >> 70%0% of the chinese in a survey said they would vote for trump. 30 something said they would vote for hillary. a lot of chinese really perceive hillary c clinton to be this aggrgressive staunch defender of american interests. even at the cost of containing china, hurtingng chinese nationl interests. report from aononsortium
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of left l leaning latin america broadcasters made clear that most of these nations are anti-trump. >> they took to the streets of central cleveland. here there are marches and posters rejecting donald trump. they disagree with hate, police abuse, and anti-immigrant rhetoric. here politics are exexpressed differently, in contrast to what is happening inside the republican convention. all the partying went on inside the convention center, al jazeerera english talked to sose ofhe visitit vintage citizss of -- disadvantaged citizens of cleveland. >> one in three cleveland residents live below thehe u.s. poverty line.more than half of children do . only detroroit is poooor. -- poorer. events like the convention can boost the c city's psyche, and s coffers, but he's afrfraid thee plplight of clevevend's poor can
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go unnotic. > dururing an evevent like t, i'm afraid o our main goal is to make thohose folksnvisible t to our guests that we try to hide our blemishes. >> and in this interview with trumpet backer and former candidate herman cain,n, al jazeera proved one thing. department between the u.s. and the world isn't over. -- the argument between the u.s. and d the world d is never. >> why when i get with the secretary of state over a real estate developer? >> she did not do anything of secretary of state. >> let me ask you this question. [arguing] >> ok, ask me a question and i will ask you one. ♪ there has been a lolot of talk inn philadelphia about this city has a place of revevolutio. but there is no revolution that this city has been more part of than the revolution against
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chattel slavery. the fight to discern that people mean more than profit is a fight in which all progressive forces could and should agrgree. but it is an unfinished revolution. we are in a place that is been at the heart of it. >> we are sitting inside the fourth building. we feel this property for more than 200 years.this the oldest piece of land continuously held by african-americans. oftentimes visitors walklk in ad see it and ask us who we bought it from. obviously people don't think black people i in the 1800s s cd hahave built this buildlding. this was indeed built in 1889. this is the fourth building. it looked like this ever since 1889. laura: what does today's political movement, all of them, need to learn from this movememt that is so much of his heart in this church? >> think about phihiladelphia.
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it's a place of contradictions. we are the placece that teacachs the world about revolution and empoweriring people. and yet in philadelphia today we arartalking about things that hold people back. we have no elected school board. we have a five person appoinintd board that oversees all thee education foror 1.5 million pepeople. there's a lot ofof righteous anr in the city around issues we think continue that revolution from back then. laurura: if you could channel richard allen and his wife, the cofounders of this place from the 1790's under segregation, under slavery, in a new nation, what would he say to us in this moment? so many people with so many aspirations wanting g to make se exchange, and all of it needed? >> well, i think richard allelen wod d say you u have to keep fighting.
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as i have been saying to my younger colleagues in the streets protesting, one of ththe things that marxist movement black lives matter r -- thatt ms this movement black lives matter is that there's not much reliancece on spirituauality for people's professed faith. ihink that t can sometimes shape you in the wrong way. what informs me is that as pessimistic as the times may seem, people like richard allen and sir alan, t the firstst creatures who preachched on this -- and sarah allen, the first creatures who preached on this land. when it seems like slavery would never end, that when someone every night raid that slavery -- prayed that slavery would end. they would tell you u it wasn't just the civil war, , but their faith in actioion that thought t
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to an end. and that every evevent that we have made, in my opinion, has been a co-labor of our street -- of our spirituality, jews, chriristians, muslims, and othe, as well as thehe activism that s needed.. it's easy to get pessimistic if you don't believe in anything outside yourself. but i believe in something that's unseen. laura: when you pray, move your feet. an old slogan. thank you much reverend tyler, really a pleasure. thanks for letting us be in your beautiful church in phililadelphia. that's it for the "laura flanders show." "when you pray, move your feet." ♪
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[cheers and applause] paul: woof. [laughter] well, i'm greatly honored to be here. thank you, kenny and ina, and thank you, all bioneers. it really feels like i've come home. i really have some groundbreaking newew research, never beenen revealed to an audience like this, only in the past several weeks, that i'm gonna reveal at the end of my talk. now, i'd like to start off my talk, because i'm wearing my favorite hat, it's a very cool hat, made from the amadou mushroom. it's a birch polypore mushroom. this hat is actually made by some ladies in
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