>> hello there. you're watching live from paris on "france 24." debate over he whether the beach wear should be allowed after mayors banded in the last few days. we will be looking at both sides of the a argument in the next few minutes. the biggest release in guantanamo bay reducing the 61.er of numbers to

and he's calling it extreme vetting. donald trump announcing a plan to more strictly screened immigrates through the united tates. catherine: thanks for being with us. we will start a off what is turning out to be a major talking point here in france today. it used to be skimpy beach wear that raised eyebrows but there us a growing debate over just the opposite. e're talking about full body coverings. three french towns have now banned the garment in quick succession. the latest of them partly inspired by a violent fight on a beach that bloke out after some local youths tried to photograph

burk kinney clad women. >> no just fashionable swimwear from muslim women who want to cover up on the beach some say it goes against french secular alues. this town has become the third to ban the beach wear. the mayor said people there feeled provoke by that sort of thing. he emphasized he's not targeting muslims but wants to get rid of islamist fundamentalists on the island who says have "no business here." he called the ban necessary to protect all within the community as tension rise. this after a brawl on a local beach over the weekend. witnesses said it was sparked by a tourist who photographed woman in a burk kinney which the mayor denied. the mayor called it a symbol of extremist islam. then joined by the mayor of

nother city. >> this here is france. >> following an appeal, villagers say it could display tensions. on monday, the minister for women's rights joined the debates. the bukini has purpose to hide women's bodies. to hide women. this is not ok. >> several people have already been fined for breaking the ban since the end of july. catherine: the french muslim come up told the newspaper today that the torsion supports france' burtka ban but this latest issue goes against individual liberties. meanwhile, several well-known clothing bans stocked versions

of the bukini at for public sale. let's take a closer look. this most complicated issue. someone who has studied it more closely, tana is a professor at geneva university. thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. thank you for inviting me. catherine: it's a very complicated subject. hard to sum up your opinion, i expect. but in a basic sense, do you believe that france should ban the bukini? >> i don't. i think if you want to promote a multi-cultural society with people from various backgrounds and try to encourage people to live together in harmony, then banning something and making clothing up outside i think we heard in the capital, that doesn't work. i think banning someone because you might think that maybe this is something that could express someone's religious views, well, people are allowed to have religious views. they're not allowed to have extreme ones and act on them but

wearing covering clothing on the beach should not be something that should be banned. catherine: we have heard from the mayors, some of the politicians involved in this that they believe they're protecting women's rights. what would you say to that? >> it's a bit easy in that so many people feel so concerned with feminist issues when we have some issues like this facing women in france and in the western world. it's a bit easy to say that. i think as a feminist myself, i encourage women to be dressed the way they want. cover up on the beach myself because my skin is afraid of the sun. because i should be allowed to do it. i should be allowed to be religious if i want. that's the real freedom for women to me is to be able to dress how you want as long as it's not threatening other people. that's where the issue lies that some people feel threatened by this. but my answer would be to jet

people why some women choose to wear this, whichever their religion is and try to educate people on why they should or should not do this. catherine: there is an argument that i've heard some people bringing forward that if this garment is normalized to a certain degree, that more women could start covering up on the beach because they feel that they have to. people said that in recent years, women in tunisia started more commonly wearing the more face covering veil because they feel that there's a greater pressure in society to do that. >> i cannot speak about tunisia that much because it's not my area of expertise and it's a very different place and background from western europe. to be honest, when you're on the beach in france or any other european country, it's really anecdotal for my amount of women who would cover up.

because you can cover up on the beach with so many different items of clothing that it's rare enoughle it's not uncommon to find bikinis although it happens more off. out of 10 women, you might have one who are not covered. i haven't made any scientific evidence but i don't think women should feel threatened by this -- they should definitely feel threatened by what's happening in france, the security issues that the country's known but fighting it should not go through target women and making a clothing up aside on the beach. catherine: and of course, i did mention at the top there that certain large clothing brands do have the version of the bukini. if you could comment on the u.k. side. some customers say it's just nice to have the choice to be more modest. others mention the sun protection. are there negative comments on there. we have seen newspaper articles

about the french ban ridiculing this and being quite angry. why do you think there is such a a different attitude in france from, for example, in neighboring country, the u.k. where they serve a large muslim population? >> it's a difficult issue but it has historical roots and cultural ones as well. the french modern state had to build itself from the catholic strong in the as country and it's not the case in england or in other countries. french people are most among secular in the world. they have their widespread suspicion of anything religious and it's not the case in england where people are used to seeing religious signs on the street. that might have religious indications in school. people are not so tense when it comes to religion. so it's not an issue. in scotland, the police in sclapped maybe last week said that they wanted to create a hijab with the colors of the

police forces to be more diverse and allow women to join the forces and i think the london police has said that. to me, that's a more interesting path to choose to help people be more integrated in society, allow themselves to be religious to be who they are and not try to force them to abandon certain things that they find very dear to their faith. catherine: all right, it's really interesting getting your point of view. thank you. let's move on to news from the middle east. in iraq, kurdish forces have taken an area about one and a half times the size of paris around mosul. they've now ended a with-day offensive on the city which the jihaddists seized and declared as their capital over two years military dish commander named the states it its forces have take. russian warplanes taking off a

base from iran to target islamic fighters. another militant in syria. this is reported by russia's defence ministry. he move is seen as a major development in the syrian war. it also comes just one day after russia's defense minister say moscow and washington are urging closer to an agreement to help defist fuse the situation in aleppo. it is a war that has shown no respect for medical facilities or patients. that's how a spokesperson from the medical charity doctors without bolders has delibed conflict in yemen a of a hospital was bombed during a airstrike killing 11 people. the saudi-led coalition that's supporting the internationally backed yemeni government is believed to be responsible. it is launching an investigation. here is more.

>> all opposing sides in the yemeni conflict had been notify of the hospital's location but on monday, an airstrike believed to have been launched by the saudi coalition killed several and wounded over a dozen people in the northern province. the doctors were unable to run for cover and evacuate the wounded as warplanes hovered over head. they feared more bombings. the hospital was run by the aid group saying it's the fourth such attack against their facility in less then a year. >> it's more than one hospital, our medical facility that have been targeted. was destroyed by them and unfortunately, again, it's civilians who are under fire in this war. >> the saudi-led coalition says it will investigate the attack urgently and seek additional information. >> murderer! >> what they find at the hospital other on the sick, the

wounded and the injured? there is nothing here except patient, medical staff, doctors and local doctors. >> since the conflict began in march last year, dozens of airstrikes has sit yemeni civilians. western power has backed the campaign to restore the president to power a after rebels seized the presidential palace. bombing has been stepped up in recent weeks after peace talks collapsed with the group who controlled the capital. yemen is the poorest country in the middle east and the humanitarian situation is continuing to deteriorate. the united states has denounced the strike on the hospital. earlier this week, it proved the sale of over $1 billion of military equipment to saudi arabia. catherine: now it is the biggest single prison released from guantanamo bay since president obama came to the white house. 15 detainees from the u.s. prison in cuba has been sent the

united arab emirates. this is just the latest episode in president obama's bid to close guantanamo bay, but a achieving that goal is still a long way off. >> barack obama has been in office for two days when he finds one of his first decrees fostering one of his main campaign promises to close guantanamo bay within a year. president obama: this is me following through on not just the commitment i made on the campaign but i think an understanding that dates back to our founding fathers that we are course to observe standards of conduct. >> seven years later, it was a few months left until he leaves office, obama has still not succeeded in close the prison localed in the remote part of cuba. he's found himself connolly blocked by oppositions from

congress, which has banned transferring the detainees to the u.s. for security reasons. he has, however, seen progress with increasingly regular releases. since the prison was opened in 2002 following the 9/11 attacks, the peak capacity has been 779 prisoners. when obama took off in 2009, 242 detainees were left. to date, 176 have now been released under obama while 61 remain. most have been held without charge or trial for more than a decade, drawing international condemnation. 19 of these inmates have been cleared for transfer. obama wants to send the rest to be imprisoned in the u.s. while this is extremely unlikely given launch republican opposition, the president has not ruled out doing so by executive action. catherine: now a vuse vetting progress saw veterans in the

united states and a major bracket track of his criticism to nato. donald trump gave details on his plans on combating terrorism. this in a speech in the swing state of ohio. the republican presidential nominee toned down earlier messages and appears to take credit for a new anti-terrorist strategy by nato. here is more. >> the new war on terror. republican presidential nominee donald trump said extreme measures were needed to fight islamic terrorism starting with tougher immigration laws. donald trump: we should admit to those who respect our value. the time is overdue to develop a new screening test for the threats we face today. i call it extreme vetting. call it extreme -- extreme vetting. [applause] >> donald trump sparked outrage

when he proposed a ban on all muslims but he has changed this to one this is base odd appear specified list of countries with "a history of terrorism." recently he suggested citizens from france and germany could face screening matters before entering the united states. it will not only expose terrorists but those who oppose u.s. values including gender equality and gay rights. he compared it to ideological screening tests put in place during the cold war. trump also changed his tune on nato. he would like to work very close is with the organization to defeat the islamic state group. donald trump: vi said that nato was obsolete because it failed to deal a adequately with terrorism. since my comments they have changed their mohel and have new focus on terror threats.

very good. >> trump is under increasing pressure to revive his campaign. recent polls show him trailing hillary clinton in every swing states and states that are usually considered as republican strongholds. catherine: all right. time for us to move on with a check of business news stories with will. let's look at the market. >> first data come out of the u.k. about inflation and european stocks are falling on the back of that news. it showed that the latest figures -- the consumer prices say the largest rise in july since november 2014. the ftse is at .4% in the red. lower. kfurt d.a.x. nikkei out in asia weighed down largely due to a strong yen. a slight gain. shanghai composite down half

percent as well. energy trading higher throughout the most morning because of a rally that we saw on the monday stock prices. but oil prices likely not to hold on to their gains. catherine: all right. let's talk about news story that is big news in france and many other places. hot spot tourist destinations seeing quite a bit of a dropoff? recent months. >> that's right. france is the most visited country in wrurep and we saw the -- europe and we saw figures drop off. africa and mediterranean whether it's fear of the terror attack on instability but spain is in the midst of a tourism boom as vacationers are pick it over other destinations. brian quinn has more. >> picture-postcard beaches. rich cultural heritage and a growing economy scene. spain is on the rise with a 30% increase in foreign tourists over the last five years. >> people are very nice.

>> it's very good for beaches. >> the boom comes as other destinations renowned for their tourist draw are seeing a market decline. years of political instability have driven down tourism across the middle east and north africa with egypt reporting a 60% drop in visitors this year alone. terror threats have take their toll as well. hotel bookings in the french riviera dropped by up to 30% followinging the nice attack. despite warnings from islamic state that the country is a target, spain has been spared the violence that has touched france, germany and the u.k. tourism up 12%. tourist spending for june was up 12.7%. >> cultural terrorism is significant to us to bring people in it's important to show off our city. >> spain is relying its tourism as it emerges from a recent

recession. the economy is expected to grow this year with tourism now accounting for 14% of the country's g.d.p. some worry that an overreliance on tourism could be dangerous if the trend reverses. but for now, spain is enjoying its time in the sun. catherine: well speaking of tourism, if you're on a long haul flight with british airways any time soon, you might land feeling bit hungry. why? >> this is going to be something that will have the palates wondering if -- pilots turbulence or growling stomachs. british airways is canceling the second in-flight meal on transatlantic flight that's less than eight and a half including london and new york, for instance. and instead of that second meal, they will be offering a fun-sized chocolate bar. catherine: what? >> and this is typically something you might see with budget airlines. so it's a bit surprising british

airways would take this move. but we should say that the company's parent company, i.a.g. has warned that its revenues might be affected in the fallout of brexit. still that's a bit stingy, isn't it? catherine: and not very healthy. anticipate it a banana. >> no. catherine: i am going to write a stern letter. thanks with that. we will have a check on what's making headlines in the newspaper the full press review. we're going to start off in india where the papers are reacting to the prime minister's speech during an independent day celebration in new delhi. >> that's right. he had a jab towards pakistan. let's take a look an article in "the times" of india. what he said was pakistan glorifies terrorism. and he also talked a the people from the pakistani province and

the region of kashmir which is known as the p.o.k. in india. that's why you can explain the title here. he said these pakistani people have thanked him for raising the issue of human rights abuse -- violations by pakistan in those areas. so you can see this is the take of the "times of india." the prime minister held up this mirror about kashmir in the face of pakistan. several papers including indian papers are critical of the indian prime minister for provoking pakistan. this is the political cartoon in the hindu where you can see the prime minister here give the speech. that little boom amplified into a big boom, boom by the speaker here that looks like a war cannon. catherine: ininteresting -- interesting indeed. response from pakistan. >> the paper quotes the

pakistani advisor to the prime minister on foreign affairs. he accuses him of trying to divert global attention from what he calls the tragedy that's taking place in the part of kashmir controlled by india. and in this article, there's a quote from him saying india is a large country but having a large country does not trance a late into having a great country. so you can see this exchange insult across the border there. catherine: another war of words not between neighbors but between to countries that are quite far apart. turkey and sweden. this is because the swedish foreign minister claimed turkey legalized sex with underaged children. >> it's very complicated. i'll try to break it down for you and if you want more details, you can check out the swedish press. there's a huge story. this is an article in the radio. last week, turkey's

constitutional court adopted a ruling which deems that a child aged from the age of 12 to 15 can -- if capable of understanding the meaning of a sexual a act. that's with the rule says. the next day, the swedish foreign minister tweeted this. she said the turkey allowed sex with children under the age of 15 must be reversed. children need more protection not less against violence and sexual abuse. turkish authorities said the swedish authority didn't understand this ruling and this is the deputy prime minister firing back on twitter saying you're clearly misinformed. there's no such stupid thing in turkey. please get your facts straight. but it's interesting to say that the a advocates of children's right say this ruling is a little bit dangerous. it could set a precedent and could create a kind of legal gap where certain abuses are not

taken into consideration. catherine: interesting case indeed. back here in france, we're focusing on a bit more frivolous matter. where is president alan? we know he's on holiday. >> this is the summer tradition like where is waldo? where is hoeland? -- hollande? they're saying the president is somewhere but no one knows where he is. they're calling him the hidden. he's absent and sigh len. he loves to be called the normal president. he's the normal hidden president. there's one person who is neither hiding nor silent and that is the former. president sarkozy, he's on the front page of the newspaper looking very sporty in his like croo shorts there. he wants to create a surprise. he's preparing for his post-summer sprint -- catherine: into the tour de france. >> yeah, into the tour de

president. the worst best-kept secret in french politician. he plans to make a comeback. he says he's going to wait until the end of summer -- well, people say he's going to wait to announce that he's going to run in the primary to hopefully be the -- for his case to be the candidate for the opposition party. so you can see him looking here looking very sporty and staying in the spotlight throughout the summer here. catherine: perhaps taking a little inspiration from the olympics. our final story. a lot of focus on the jamaican sprinter "eyewitness news." his third straight -- usain bolt, his third straight medal. >> take a page at yine daily. he aims for immortal achievement. lots of praise as well in the "wall street journal." he's not on the fastest man alive, he might be the most

magnetic. he's so fun to watch, says the "wall street journal." you can see thin rivaled joy of watching usain bolt with his incredible photo for reuters. you can see him here turning back to look at his rival

announcer: this is a production of china central television americica. mike: reinventing the wheel--it's often said when people waste time creating sosomething that already wororks well, but sometimes coming up with a new approach cacan have a positive impact. this week on "full frame," conversation with innnnovators who are reinventing the wheel. they're also upending thosose ordinary tasks, making the daily grind easier and in the process, creating a better world. i'm mike walter, coming to you from the heart of new york city's vibrant times square. let's take it "full frame."

in 2012, matt dadalio founded endless computers, a san francisco-based startup. he had one simple goal: provide access to affordable personal computers to people in the developing world. . almost immediatately, endless had an impact. matt: he's a little 12-year-old boy, who 8 months ago couldn't speak english and decided to teach himself english through his computer, and i'd like to have you meet him. jimmy, please welcome me on stage. [applause] jimmy: hello. matt: so tell me about yourself, jimmy. jimmy: hi,i, everybody. my name is jimmy. i am 12 years old. i really like e to play videogames and read books. matt: so how did you learn

english? jimmy: i learned english by practicing and reading, listening. i already in the program duolingo. i'm practicing in--in videos, skype, and writing on whatsapp. matt: and tell me how much english did you know 8 months ago? jimmy: oh, i learned 8 months ago on march of the last year. matt: and how much did y you knw 8 months ago? jimmy: nothihing. [laughter] mike: here's something you u may not know. 75% percent of the world currently has no access to computers, but t dalio isis convinced that soon people in emerging markets, like guatemala and mexico a and much of latin america, will be able to getet this techchnology. that access will radically change people's lives like never before. endless computers is reinventing the way people access technology, and matt is joining us from san francisco to share with us his hope of bringing computers to the

masses and how he's making that a reality. welcome to the broadcast, matt. matt: thank you for having me. mike: this kid! oh, man, you want a sales feature, just bring him up on stage. he was amazing, wasn't he? matt: the incredible thing is that you'll find this story everywhere. just last week i was in bangladesh talking to someone who is 8 years old, learning to program, is now an entrepreneur building a health program to help his entire country, and you will see these stories across emerging markets. jimmy was one story that happened to be in the audience. oh, my god, the incredible thingng is that this same story is everywhere. mike: well, tell me about the first time you--you hearard this story, because you know you're creating this thing, it's going to have an impact, but then to see it, and it's so tangible, and here's this kid who's so vibrant, so alive. i mean, that confidence he has, you know a lot of that stems from this interaction. matt: it's funny. i went to dinner with jimmy that night, and he was telling me about how he's learned to hack his android phone. he's talked--you know, he's got all these games

that he's learned to hack. there is so much entrepreneurial energy and vibrancy, so much curiosity, and--and--and there is--and even here we talk about howw ththere's an educational system that gets in the way. there, they don't even have the educational system to either get in the way or prop someone up. so it's just like--you just got to give him the tools, you got to give him something, and here it is, jimmy with 8 months, you can see what the right t tool can do. mike: tell you what, matt, why don't you pause for just a second. we''ve got a clip we're going to run, and then i want to pick up on the back side of this. let's listen in. woman: endless w works easily from the moment you turn it on. all of your favoririte apps are on your desktop. it includes a full e ecosystem of application, including a word processor, software for presentations, and spreadsheets that can even open word, powerpoint, and excel files. with one click, you can access your browser. endleless was built to work with or without internet, so regardless of your ability toto connect, it's just as valuable when used offline. our apps s can be used

to write school reports, edit your resume, and do pretty much anything you'll need for school, work, or home. endless also comes with a built-in app center. inside, you can find over 100 applications that can be installed with a click of a button, and the best part is they are all free. there's a full encyclopedia, e educational videos and lectures, apps for health and wellness, parenting, and so much more. mike: so, matt, that gives us an overview, but let's kind of just kind of break it down a little bit. with or without the internet--um, many of us don't think about that in the western world, but that's key, isn't it? matt: itit's funny. we're doingg two very counterintuitive things. the whole silicon valley is moving towards two ththings, mobile and cloud, andd they've forgotten that most of the world doesn't have desktop and doesn't have cloud, um, and so computing has actually gotten worse in environments--in emerging markets, even, you know, desktop computer, and the solution to that's not that hard. you just have to think about what is it that people

want when they're accessing the internet. what people want is two things. it's communication, which is really cheap on a data plan, and it's information, which is really expensive on a data plan, and that's the limitation, but the reality is that most information that people use is actually the same information, right? so to give you an example, wikipedia, 80% of all wikipedia searches are for 3% of wikipedia entries. so the information that we want is not all possible information. it's really actually a pretty limited subset of that information, and what we've done is gone and put it inside of each computer. mike: how did you get to the point where you knew what to deliver, because, yoyou know, y're in ththe silicon valley where everyone is thinking outside the box and creative, and yet, you almost have to kikind of take a step back and say, "no, no, no, we've got to strip this down." how did you get to where you are in delivering what they need? matt: pretty much everything we've learned, we've learned from going out in the field. it's funny how, you know, you can speculate on what the right thing is here, and then you go

there, and you realize how wrong you are, uh, and you realize all of the new ideas that you can bring back here to build, um, and so we went, and we just asked people what they wanted. um, the first approach that we had was let's go look at statistically what it is that people want, but that doesn't include everything, righght, because i'm not searching for health information every day, but by god, when i am searching for that information, i want that information, and so what we did is we went and we found information, like people want handicrafts. why do they want handicrafts? well, it's because they make the handicrafts, they sell them, and that's livelihood. we found that people were constantly making cvs in internet cafes. my first thought was, "why are they making cvs?" and it turns out that it's--it's a gig economy. in other words, they get a job for about 3 weeks, a month, , ad then they get the next job. so they're constantly having to update their cv, so we went and we made an offline application to guide people through the process of making cvs, and this has sort of symbolized how

we've built the whole thing, which is we don't know what they want. just go ask. mike: and so getting you in a studio, talking ababout this i s probably a rare ococcurrence. hw often are you on planes, and--and what are some of the things you're learning as you go on your journeys, and where do you go? matt: i was in bangladesh last week, dubai the week before that. i'll be in guatemala and mexico in two weeks, um, brazil in a couple months, so i'm--i'm sort of always on the road, and it's because that's the source of truth. mike: what about the cost? you know, when we think of the cost of computers, obviously they've come down considerably when you--you know, when you think about buying that first computer years ago, but still it can be prohibitive for people in the areas that you're going to. . how much doeoes it ? matt: goodod question. so what e found was the e cost was the first big barrier for people being able to have these devices. if you see tablets sweeping across emerging markets, the question is, is that because they want a tablet more than a computer, or is that because they can only afford a tablet and they can't

afford a computer? the insight we had was let's use the same type of ococessothatat's ininde of a tlelet. tt'the momo expensive ining. t sececon most eenensivehingng ia scre. . everne''s alrerey got a tv at me. let's go u that tv, and the thirmomost expensivthing isn operatg stem. ife make aree opoperatg g syst, itit mns thaha weouldld diver aomputeter w for $79. mike: um, there are lolot of people wre y yo're sting w e getting incribly rich t dointhis st of wor th'reiming products at th know thmasses wl buyy and enend a loof moneyn, and th can livinin a ne fay house.hat made you g in ts other rectio ma: so i--actually led in chinfor a ye when i was 11 years old. i lived with a chinese family. so i left my family here. i went to an all- chinese school. i ate dumplings each day. i went and biked to school. uh, and when i was 16, i went back and spent a summer in an orphanage in china, um, and that was really when my eyes opened. there is a whole other world that is in a whole

lot of need, um, and that is most of emerging markets, is somewhere sort of in thehe midde of the econonomic bell curve. people talk about t the pyramid. it's not a pyramid anymore. it's a bell curve, and there's this rising middle class, and that is--that's what china is, right? um, and we're in this very unique moment in history where technology is, for the very first time, accessible to that person, whether through a smartphone, a tablet, a computer, um, and if you go and ask mckenzie or bcg or bane or one of these big consulting firms, and you say, "what is the next great trend, the largest trend of the next decade?" economically, from a business perspective, they will all tell you the next billion consumers. in fact, the next billion consumers is quoted by mckenzie as being the largest opportunity in the history of capitalism, and so if i've got one mission--when you saw that ted talk, my whole reason for standing on that statage was to tell the entrepreneurs of this world there is this opportunity over here. go focus on that as

an economic opportunity, and you will be able to change lives at scale that has never been possible in history before. it used to be that impact, business were separate. now they're one and the same, and i just feel so darn lucky that i get to devote my life to--to--to using the power of business to go affect, you know, impact it at--at--at scale. mike: but you know what's interesting--and i--i--i don't want to go back too far, but--but i was just thinking about it. you know, you--you--you workrk on this, yu quit, you could've easily thrown in the towel and gone and do something else. so--so there was a reason why you were just like, "well, i'm going to keep pushing." um, so talk to me about that. matt: i wake up p every single momoing and ththink about the importance of what we're doing. it sounds crazy. i believe that the destiny of 3 billion people sits on our shoulders, um, and that sounds absolutely crazy, um, but everyone else in technology is focused on

desktop and cloud, and no one is focused on the two solutions--or mobile and cloud--and no one is focused on people who don't have those two things. i still haven't seen it. i've been working on this for 5 years, and the answer still hasn't come, and i believe with all the conviction in my heart, through every challenge that we have faced, you put a brick wall in front of me, i will find my way to run through that, only because of how important it is. when there are 3 billion people and their lives are sitting on the other end of that, you find a way, um, and so here we are. we've got the answer, andnd, you know, telling the world about it is a whole other set of challenges. now we have to go get that into 3 billion hands, and, you know, that is not an easy thing, but again, it does not matter how hard it is. you do it. mike: so extend it out for me. i mean, you must think about this. where is jimimmy? he's--at age 12, he's this kid. at 22 and 32 and 42, he's a much different child--i mean, a much different adult, as a result of

this childhood, than the kid living in a village who doesn't have a access to all of this. so extend it out for me. i mean, your vision of the world, and--and there aren't a lot of peopople who c can say, "you kn, i'm touching people today, but i'm touching the future," and you can say that. matt: i--i--i can tell you stories. so, you know, there's an imagination of what it looks like when some, you know, "n" number of people has this, but, um, i was just in bangladesh, and there was a guy who was telling me a story. he was very lucky in his country to get access to a computer. at 8 years old, he was sort of picked on at school, and so he'd go home, and his computer was the thing--it was his outlet. itit was his creative outltlet. that put him on an entirely different trajectory. it was--all of a sudden, every minds, every curiosity he had was able to be answewered. he ws just a curious person, and there were the answers, um, and you fast forward, and--and he was able to go to harvard. he met another friend from bangladesh, who start--he started a--a company with, to go back--and note again, it's a company, not a foundation, that's doing this. he started a company to go deliver quality

health care at scale, and so they're using tablets through all of these quack doctors that line emerging markets, that line bangladesh, to be able to connect them with a doctor, with a diagnostic set of tools that every single one of these quack doctors has, um, and with a set of algorithms that can mean that now people who literally have never seen a doctor before at 65 years old, never seen a doctor in their life before--i was just with these guys last week--are able to now have access to a doctor in the capital city of bangladesh, and that story came from an 8-year-old child who had access to a computer. what does the world look like when every kid has access to a computer? your imagination can go as far as mine can go. it's--it's--it's mind-boggling. mike: and we don't think of computers as a level playing field, but--but itit is the levl playing field, isn't it? i mean, it's the difference between what you just described and-d--and an entirely d differt future. matt: i think that's right.

there's nothing we can do to give, you know, everyone a level playing field. i mean, i had--i had access to, you know, the best educationon possible. there's just nothing that we can do to give everyone access to the benefits that i have been very lucky to have in my life, and if there's one thing we can do for them, my god, it's open up their world, everything that fits inside of a box that literally fits inside my palm. mike: so hope is endless, and itit's a great name to hahave fr your company, isisn't it? matt: it's--the name cameme in sort of a--a--a 30-second fit of inspiration, and it's--it's--it's uncovered why this is sort of, um--i don't know, it feels like it's meant to be. mike: matt, it's been greatat chatting with you, and i know you're traveling again tomorrow, so thanks for sitting down in the studio and visiting with us, and best of luck to you in the future. matt: thank you for having me. mike: coming up next, a new take on the job hunt.

times, they are a changing, and nowhere is that more evident than in the workplace. no longer satisfied with simply collecting a paycheck, today's job seekers want more, much more. they want the work to be meaningful, but they also want to find employers whose corporate cultures align with their own values and ideals. our next guest knows about this shift firsthand. after a particularly lengthy and challenging job search, nina cheng created a job search site. hiho puts human needs, like preferences and company culture, at the center of the job hunt. as co-founder and ceo, nina's committed to fulfilling hiho's vision that nobody should be unhappy with their job. nina believes employee happiness should be considered a basic human right. nina cheng is here to share her own career adventures and misadventures and to tell us how hiho aims to disrupt the

job search landscape. welcome to "full frame." nina: thank you for having me. mike: let me ask you about this. i guess everybody that i can think of probably has a story about a horrible job experience or a horrible job search. nina: mm-hmm. mike: do you have both? nina: i do have both. ha ha ha! lucky me. mike: and is that why you're sitting here today? i mean, is that led to this... nina: definitely. mike: in a--in a sense? nina: yeah, um, so i graduated college in 2008, which was a particularly difficult time for young job seekers. um, actually, in the fall of 2007, i received a jobob offer and signed on toto work at bear stearns, which is one of the large investment banks in new york at the time. um, ultimately, that bank ended up collapsing, and i became a refugee of, you know, wall street before i even started working. so after that, it was just extremely difficult for me to find a job, and i was spending 8 hours or more a day applying for jobs online, speaking to people, and nothing really worked out, so i've used pretty much every job search site there was at the e me, um,

and finally after a year and a half, i did end up getting back into investment banking, um, but that w was, you know, a very long, arduous, exhausting process, so i haven't forgotten what that was like, and combined with some of my n not great job experiences, it really led to the culmination of hiho. mike: so i g guess going through that whole, "i got to find a job," you availed yourself of probably e everything out there. nina: yes. mike: and probably saw a lot of the shortcomings. i mean, what were some of the things that kind of hit you as you were going throrough the process, that, "jeez, if i could change this..." nina: yeah... mike: "this is what i'd change." nina: well, i think a lot of job sites out there don't really focus on millennial job seseekers at all, which is unfortunate because as of 2015, millennials are now the majority of the workforce. so they tend to focus on things like pay or job title or, you know, um, the largeness of a company, for example, size of a company, but for a lot of millennials, that's not what they care about. we--i can say that because i consider myself

a millennial--but we care more about things like company culture or level of flexibility that a company would offer you, um, and, you knonow, work life balance or work life harmony. so those things just typically aren't reflected on any of these competitor sitites. mike: is it becaususe you look t your parents and say, you know, "i'm not going to go that route." " i mean, why--because i think what you're saying is so right on target--i've got two millennials myself--and--and it is. it's an entirely different way of looking at the landscape. nina: right. definitely. um, gen--gen-x'ers, i guess, is what they're called, or baby boomers, um, they definitely have a different pererceptioionf what a job should be. a lot of people think that a job is to put food on the table, um, and they're more interested in pay, getting a promotion, advancing in the workplace--excuse me--um, and also, i think a lot of millennials have had to deal with parents who are divorced, and because of that, they've seen firsthand what the impact of having a life filled only with work can really lead to, so they want t to avoid thatat,s well as, um, you know, just

having this all-consuming lifestyle of work and no play. mike: and one of the other things you have to do when you enter business is look at the landndscape and see who your competitors are and what they offer, so i thought maybe we could walk through--we--we've picked 4 job search engines, and--and maybe we can go through each and kind of talk about what their characteristics are, and then maybe we can come back to you and talk to you about how you differ. so we'll start with indeed, and this kind of maps out--it's a traditional job board. you can get in, you can type in certain words, those keyword searches, and a lot of different industries available there. so that--how would you call that--what kind of a model? is that more just traditional... nina: it's a pretty traditional job board. um, it's keyword-based, and you basically type in something like "paralegal in new york," and then i it spits ouout thouss ofof job searches or job search results.s. mike: so we looked at one. lelet's take a l look at our second, which i believe is hired. this is a different model, though, isn't it? it's kind of the reverse, isn't it? nina: it is reversed, so i think they only accept 5% of

candidates who apply. you basically upload your resume and a few details about yourself, and they tell you whether you're accepted into the program, and after that, companies can decide if they want to speak with you or not. mike: so the firstst one, ii guess, you could kind of call it a cattle call, everybody's out there. nina: right. mike: the second is more geared towards the company. they kind of help whittle it down in a sense for them. let's take a look at our third. this one's really kind of going towards your market in a sense... nina: yeah, a little bit. mike: in that it's--it's basically aiming at social good mission, is what jumps out at me, which is also a--a structure of millennials, too, isn't it? i mean, they really want to make a difference in the world. the nina: right, um, millennials do list one of their priorities as having a purpose or a mission on the workforce--in the workplace, rather. so idealist is, you know, pretty ideal actually for millennials. mike: and, of course, the fourth is linknkedin, and i thik everybody in the universe is on linkedin now. i'm not sure everybody knows how to use it or what it's all about, but it's professional networking used by recruiters and the headhunters and also job

postings. so when you looked at the landscape and you saw these 4--we're just taking them as an example--where were the pockets where you saw where they weren't connectingng the dotots where you think you can? nina: so actually, most of these focus on a different demographic from us. we really focus on specifically millennial job seekers in the age group of roughly 24 to 32. so, um, a lot of these either are more general or not exactly the targetet we're going for. so part of that is age, and another is really y e iorities that comeitith being a millennial and having this mindset. so we do give people a lot morere options in terms of what they can prioritize in the job search. normally, if you go on to, say, indeed, and you're doing a job search for a paralegal, as i mentioned before, um, often times, you get a spit-out of, you know, thousands of job searches or job search results, um, and they're not prioritized in a way that's meaningful or purposeful. so the way that they structure it often times

is that companies that pay the most end up having their job search r rults the h highest. .o it's not really keeping the job seekers' best interest in mind, it's much more focused on the companies', and what we're trying to do is give job seekers, you know, a little bit more leeway and a little bit more benefits there. mike: you're kind d of jostling the work world in a sense of--a good friend of mine is the director of this broadcast. we always laugh about one of his bosses who would see people conversing, and, "no more talking! get back to work!" this concept of happiness is a human right, there are a lot of bosses who don't--don't think that s should be a human righth, whwhere it's cracked the whip. how do you change that mindset, do you think, and why do you see it as a--as a basic human right to be happy at the workplace? nina: yeah, well, um, i think, you know, the more i looked at it, the more happipiness at work seemed to be synonymous with happiness in life because we are spending so much time in the workplace, um, probably, you know, a third to half of

our lives and the mamajority of our working hours, um, and even with, you know, technology, smart phones, what have you, you're pretty much on call 24/7, at least that's what it feels like to me oftentimes.s. um, so, you know, there's--there's a much more blurred line of what work in life means, and to that extent, if you're trying to be happy in life, which is kind of the goal of any human being, um, and, you know, the goal of human nature, i would say, then why not seek happiness in the workplace, as well? so this is--i think it's a newer concept, but it's something that a lot of millennials have come away with after the recession and, you know, what they had to suffer through in this more scarcely-based mindset, where, really, employers were king. i think now employees have much more power, and th c can go ahead and, you know, make some decisions that they didn't really feel empowered to make a few years befofore. mike: you know, it's interesting, you worked at bear stearns, and--and, i mean, wall street is not--is a stone's throw away from here. uh, most people on wall street would

tell you that, you know, "no, it's the shareholders that's most important." nina: right. mike: my boss would tell me that it's the viewers that--that are more important, customers, however you break it down, but you have this sense that if an employee is happy, then it does benefit the company and the shareholder, the--so give me your thoughts on that, because i guess if we're all miserable, perhaps we're not--we're not--our work is p probably not as strtrong af we're happy, right? i mean... nina: yeah, it actually makes a big impact, um, happiness and employee engagagement, to a company's bottom line. so, um, it's beenen proven that an employee who is happier and more engaged at work tends to take less sick days. there's also lower--or higher retention, i guessss, you can say,y, lower turnovers. so peope who are more engaged and feel happier at work tend to leave a job less easily, and actually the number one reason people leave a job is due to company culture, and when you're lookining at millennials who hae much higher turnover than previous generations, it's extremely costly for companies

to constantly have to hire replacements. um, it's about $15,000 to $25,000 every time a company needs to replace a millennial employee, so that cost really adds up along withth the other things i've mentioned, and overarall, companies that have better cultures and, you know, employees who are more engaged, they tend to reach their goals faster andnd better, i guess you can say, so there's a lot of reasons why a company would want their employees to be engaged. mike: i read a--a piece in--in a--a news--magazine, i think it was last year, where hr people were starting to complain about younger employees that--you know, they--they didn't mind the, you know, setting up yoga, but now one kid wants karate, nobody else does, and why do i have to do all of this stuff? do you think you're going to run up against that kind of mindset, and is that something that they're just going to have to get used to? i mean, you're going to have to offer these perks. nina: right. so right now you sesee a lot of that in silicon valley and in the tech startup space, where i think there's a particularly insane war for

talent, especially with people with a technical background. so it hasn't necessarily reached corporate america yet, but i think, you know, given that millennials are now the majority of the workforce, it will become a bigger issue, and corporate america will have to catch up sooner or later. um, yeah, so it's--it's a matter of time, i think. mike: it's funny that you say that because this person was from the silicon valley, and they were just ready to rip their hair out, but i guess... nina: yeah. mike: if you're competing for that kind of talent, and the pool isn't that big, you almost have to do this, don't you? nina: yes, you do, and actually, "wall street journal" published a very interesting article. um, i think it was called, like, "the lavish perks of today's startups," or something along those lines, but it talked about how, you know, companies now have a happiness manager, they have people who are willing to do whatever it takes to getet companies, or to get people to come on board, whether that's, you knowow, catered lunches or yoga studios, as you mentioned, or just, you know, unlimited vacations, very flexible work policies. so that's definitely

something that's veryry prevalet in silicon valalley, a and i thk that culture will trickle down into the rest of america. mimike: do you think you can go too far? nina: um, i don't know, maybe. but, um, ultimately, you know, there's--there's a balance because e companies know that it does pay to have workers happy and to have workers engaged, and if you're keeping people at the office longer and keeping them happy at the office longer, then they'll also be more likely to produce good work and, you know, to stay there longer, as well. mike: twtwo final questions, and i'll--i'll pair them. uh, what advice would you give to a millennial right now who's out there looking for a job but doesn't want to settle for something? you know, they want to find that perfect fit. and what do you say to the parent of that child who has them living in their basement who just wants them to get a job and get out and start their life? nina: yeah, well... mike: because that's what you see, isn't it? i mean... nina: : yeah, , millennials are much more likelyly to not take n a job and, you know, be slightly miserable versus

taking on a job ththey don't lie and bebe very miserable. um, i would say for millennials that they should probably consider talking to people that they can get honest feedback from. so if you go into a company, i would ask to speak to their most junior employees. i think they'rere most likely to be candid with you and to offer some, you know, good advice or, um, give you the landscape of what, you know, the hr and the management is like there. um, i also think--and this is a piece of advice i got from senior citizens when i was woworking with healthcare real estatate ad senior living nursing homes and such. so the number one regret of seniors on their deathbed was that thehey wished they had the courage to live a life that was true to themselves and not a life that, you know, they thought someone else wanted ththem to lilive. so i would definitely tell these people that they should be true to themselves and to evaluate and reevaluate their priorities because it'll change many times throughout their career, and to the parents, um, i would just say to be patient. i think this

is--it's--you know, students are for the first time--or millennials are for the first time--worse off than their parents are. i think it's actually the first time in over a century. so, um, it isn't easy for millennials these days, either, and, you know, a lot of them have a lot of debt, and they feel l the pressure, as well, so i would say to be patient, and i think my story is also a tetestament to that. mike: nina, thanks so much for coming in. nina: thank you for having me. mimike: and good advice. coming up next, have you hailed a cab lately? your options for a hired ride are growing, and our next guest is adding a feminine touch. we'll be right back. it's unusual to see no matter where you travel in the world. in fact, when was the last time you saw a woman driver behind

the wheel of a cab? it's extremely rare even right here. there are 115,000 people driving taxis and limousines in new york city, but only--get this--3% of them are women. our next guest is working to increase those numbers and to ensure that more women are in the driver's seat. she's a wife, mother, and founder of she taxis, or sherides, as the service is called within new york city limits. it's the first company in the united states to offer taxi and car services for women from women through an iphone application. this service emulates already existing models that are successful in a number of other countries. here to tell us about the advantages of being both behind the wheel and in the passenger seat of she taxis is stella mateo. stella, welcome to "full frame." stella: thank you. thank you for having me on the show. i appreciate the opportunity. mike: you bet. so let me ask you the--the obvious question, which is why? and then the second one: why two names? stella: ok, the reason why,

it's a--it's a movement to empower women financially and personally, and the reason for the name is in new york city, you're only allowed toto use the name "taxis" for the yellow cabs. um, outside of the new york city area, it's she taxis, but in new york city, sherides. mike: i see. let me ask you about the concept. uh, you've been around the taxi industry for a while. when did it first occur to you that, "jeez, there aren't any women driving these things"? stella: um, after--my husband is the founder and spokesperson for the new york city federation of taxi drivers, and through the--over 20 years, listening to all the issues pertaining to the industry, i was more focused on women issues, and then when we looked at the statistics and see that, as you mentioned, 97% of the drivers are men in the yellow industry, less than 1%, but 60%--very interesting--60% of the ridership are women. mike: so talk to me about drivers. h how hard--i mean,

you've--there obviously isn't a lalarge pool out there a as we'e been talking. i mean, how do you grow that? what were some of the obstacles that you faced right off the bat? stella: some of the obststacles werere, um, you know, someme pee felt that, you know, why women and--andnd feel that we're not inclusive of men, and that's when i turned around and said, "how can anyone say that?" 97% of the industry is dominated by men, and 1 1%--less thanan 1%, i mentioned, of the yellow cabs. mike: it's interesting. i was doing a gogoogle search, and i'm not trying to besmirch the--the cab industry in any way, but i just put in "women assaulted by cab driver" in a google search, and it was amazing how many hits came up, um, and--and here in the united states, in--in england, in india, i mean, the list goes on and on and on, um, and i guess even if that's a really miniscule percentage, for a woman to see that article or that story, it--it ends up in here for a long, long time. so what is the fear factor for

women? what--what is the belief system, getting into a car and knowing that a woman's driving for you? how does that shift for them? stellala: oh, the women--the women that--the feedback that we get is that they are very, vevery happy, becacause you're a small, confined space, you know, and i'm not saying that men are dangerous in any way or that, you know, they're at risk by riding withth the men, bubut just--you feel safafer, a woman with another woman, and also, i have two daughters. i feel--it's a mother instinct. i always feel that women are more protective of other womemen and yoyoung girls, being a mother. also, um, , when my girls go out at night, i feel safer. i feel better knowing that i can--they can have the option of, you know, requesting a woman. mike: so when you first came up with this idea, and your husband obviously was on board, and you started to--to come up with the--the concept, um, what--what was the initial feedback you were getting from women, because the--the thing that's interesting about your operation is it's women drivers, women customers.

stella: yes, yes. when women get older, sometimes they can't find work, when you retire. our ambassador for she taxis is 65 years old, and she's so excited because she's retired, and she said, "where else would i find work?" it doesn't matter your size, doesn't matter your age, um, your ethnic background. so it's--it's very attractive for us to be able to do this kind of work. mike: tell us about your adornment here. stella: um, pink. yes, pink. i--i offer all the drivers that join she taxis, that joined the movement, the pink pashmina, and the reason for pink is it's a girly color, it's a friendly color, it's--it's feminine, and so we want to make a statement with it. mike: what are the most popular reasasons for using your s servs that you hear from the customers? stella: safety. safety is the number one reason. mike: and then what about other countries? i mean, we're talking about specifically new york, but--but obviously, doing your research, you must have found that this is something that's springing up in other countries. what--what did you find? stella: yes. it's--india is s oe

of thehe countries, and i beliee one of the main reasons why india is because muslim women, for religious beliefs, is another reason w why this is a great idea. muslim women cannot ride in a car with a man or drive a pass--or drive a man. so it's--they also have a service women for women because of those religious beliefs. mike: and do you think that this is something--obviously, you're bringing up india. i know that it's in other countries, as well. do you think this is something--it's kind of a tidal wave that this is just starting and that we're going to see this everywhere? stella: um, well, i hope to bring it everywhere. i don't know about anyone else, but we work--you know, we're going to develop it nationwide first, and then we're going to go international. we've been contacted by different countries. i've done interviews with france, italy, um, dubai, spain, different countriries around the w world contacting g, wanting for us to bring the services. mike: wow. you--you brought up men and how, you k know, it's overwhelmingly in their favor, but i suspect, you know, this

is a litigious society that we live in that--you know, that there's going to be somebody who's going to complain and say that this is discrimination, that sort of thing. are you prepared for that? have you heard that already or... stella: that was from the very beginning. i it was one of the main issues, and when i was asked, you know, that some people felt that it was discrimination against discriminanation, i said, "of course it't's didiscriminanatio% of an induststry dominated by mn and less than 1% in another, that is discrimination, absolutely." mike: what about feedback? what have you heard so far from passengers and the drivers who work for you? stella: uh, , we have feedback from women, especially coming from flying international into airports. one of our drivers, our ambassador drivers, said ththe lady--one ofof the womomed to herer, "look, somometimes, 'e running, you know, for--for meetings from--in traveling, and we run back. you know, we're schedule--behind schedule, we're traveling, but we're able to change in the back of the car because it's a woman." so they feelel comfortable. the comfort level, it's totally different than when they ride with a man. that's another compliment that we get, how comfortable they feel besides safe. mike: well, we were comfortable talking to you. thanks so much

for coming in. best of luck with your new venture. it sounds likike it's doing very, very well. stella: thank you. thank you for the support. mike: : ella, thananks so much. while stella and she taxi are reinventing the way women are hailing a cab, one of the world's most famous innovators is working on reinventing the way we travel long distances. in 2013, entrepreneur elon musk proposed a conceptual high speed transportation system called the hyperloop. the idea is that passengers would ride inside capsules at tremendously high speeds in pneumatic tubes. a cross-continent trip that today takes days could be completed in mere hours. construction of the hyperloop itself is still in the startup phase, but students at ucla's ideas campus have already envisioned what the hyperloop travel experience will be like, and as "full frame" contributor sandra hughes found out, reinventing the way we all travel is no small challenge.

sandra: driving from los angeles to san francisco takes between 6 and 8 hours. it's about 620 kilometers. flying between the two cities takes about an hour but could cost hundreds of dollars. the third travel option may look like a cross between a ride at disneyland and a science fiction transporter, but it's under a decade away, and it's called the hyperloop. for a $200 ticket, you can travel between the two cities in about 30 minutes. marta: it changes the perception of space. it--it changes the perception of time. it's--it's going to be revolutionary. sandra: revolutionary because the hyperloop could change the way people work, live, and commute. marta: people can live--they will be able to live in cheaper towns and cities and

commute to bigger cities for work. i mean, it's going to also change the way we live. i mean, it's quite incredible to think about, that you can actually, you know, live in los angeles and work in san francisco, just like this daily commute, 30 minutes. sandra: the technology behind the hyperloop isn't new, but the way this idea is coming to life is new. spacex founder elon musk threw out his vision of a hyperloop transportation system in 2013 as an open source to which engineers, architects, and stududents could all contriribute. craig: it's a reallyly good sort ofxample of f a 21st-c-century business model, and that is a business model which is not centered in a single entity, and--and this kind of cuts through the corporate red tape

in bureaucracy and focuses just on the creative members. sandra: professor craig hodgett, professor marta nowak, and 25 students at the university of california los angeles school of architecture ideas lab took on the challenge. using existing pneumatic tube technology, they envision capsules using solar energy. craig: we would have frfrictionleless whes. they'd be magnetic or air, and so if you gave this s thing a littttle pu, it's like an air hockey pucuck. it will l just bounce around forever.r. sandra: the students worked in teams creating mockups. matt: we were just looking at the data of elon's white paper and expanding it, so taking it to the next level, looking at, you know, how big would a hyperloop station have to be, what would the interior of the

capsule look like, how would you design it, would you be able to stand up inside of a capsule while it's moving at 760 miles an hour? and there's-- sandra: would you? can you? matt: yes, absolutely. sandra: theyad to creaeate stations wherere thousands of passengers per hour would arrive and depart. yaya: as an architect, we try to see what we can do, especially to a city, and hyperloop is such a big, new infrastructure. it's a new transportation system. it's a--as we can see, it has millions of possibilities of how it can impact on people's lives, also, how it can change the city. sandra: they all worked on creating the capsule and faced one unique problem. matt: we take turns sitting in the capsule, you know, ask someone, "how does this feel, or how does that feel?" and really work off one another to pick the best visual scenario in order to feel less claustrophobic. sandra: a 5-mile test track and

station will be built in quay valley, california, in 2016. craig: we don't envision enormous technical hurdles, but they may be there. sandra: or may not. either way, everyone's on board with predictions that in less than 10 years' time, hyperloop should be a reality. for "full frame," this is sandra hughes in los angeles. mike: we'll be right back with this week's "full frame" close-up. for the past decade, san francisco-based artist andres amadador has reinvented hohow artwork is showcased. he creates very temporary geometric art pieces on the beach, and even thou h his

artwtwork washeses away withth e tide often within minutes, i i's memorializ t throu photogphs and vio. his artwk has founa following in san francisco and on social media around the world, but for this artist, the most importantt aspect of his work is being in the moment as he creates it. andres: i get asked why--why do i do something that's going to wash away so soon? life is not going to last. nothing we will do will last. and so the

question becomes, why do anything? like, what's--what's the enduring value of anything that we do? all that really matters is that we are living our life in joy, in a joyous way, and if--if we can fill our live e as much as possible witith the things that give us energy, that--that we're excited to engage, where we feel that we're--that we're invigorarated and our soul s shs even brighter, then it's like, we ought to be d doing that.t. that's--like, why wououldn't t u do that, even if it's--if it's going to wash away? my name is andres amador, and

i'm an artist. i call the art that i do earthscape painting. i actually have a degree in environmental sciences, and i was in the peace corps doing conservation work in ecuador. i thought t that that would be my field for--from then on out, but when i came back to san francisco as an adult, i realized, umum, just what san francisco has to offer in terms of personal expression, which i never tapped into previously. and i--i delved into the--the realm of creative expression. so that's been the path that i've been on, but while doing that, the influence keeps creeping in of, um--of the world around me, and more the natural world. i derived so

much inspiration from--from nature. in doing this art, i have become much more connnnectd to, um--to the cycles of nature, and then that has continued to move in my life in bigger ways. with the beach art, i have to do it according to the tides, and the tides arare according to the movement of our planet and the moon, and then there's, um--throughout the seasons, the beach changes, and now that i'm doing this at a more full-time level, i'm actually planning out the entire year of the tides, and so now, really, my life is revolving around the tides. so i'm much more connected to, um--to the world around me than i ever have before.

i started off doing ones that were more geometrically orientnted, and those were inspired by, um, the world o of geomomry and--whwhich is a well, um, explored terrain by cultures thrououghout t historyo i was inspired by ancient, um, architecture, and, um, among my--my studies were crop circles, which i would say are the most direct, um, connection to the early art that i did. as the years went byby, my explploratio branched off into areas of natural design, getting inspiration from the world around me.

this is that stylistic thing of, um----it's like jusust thisp edge got chopped, but this edge stays. for the top edge, this is the top edge. that's the side. woman: well, this is--this is the side. i'm going to cut off the very top piece. there's no reason... andres: yeah, take off that one. there is a kinship that i feel with the many traditions around the world that create art where the process is the focus, and when the product is done, they sweep it away. it's meant to be destroyed in some fashion because the end result is not the goal. for many years, i had this anxiety that i wasn't--what was i doing to contribute to the world? i wasn't alleviating hunger, or i wasn't solving

problems of world peace, or i'm not protecting the animals, and i'm--there's a part of me that feels so sensitive to the woword around us that it's almost as though i had to retreat from the empathy that i was feeling with the suffering that occurs in nature and in people. if we don't feel love and joy within ourselves, then we're not going to project that into the world. the art that i did today is going to be washed away, it's not going to last, but through my own experience of happiness, everyone who watched feels

happy. they're going to go out in the day, and they're going to send that out. they've taken pictures, and they're going to post them wherever, and that's going to spread to around the world, to other people, and they're going to experience joy. and the image might inspire something, then a little bit of impact would occur where, i think--i really do feel--that it has this kind of ongoing cumulative quality of just kind of shifting the consciousness. your jacket's kind of like what i did today. woman: i know. andres: very similar, huh? if we can live in a world where we're all radiating, even when we're feeling bad and even when times are tough, if we can be in that place of looking for how to--how to increase our radiance to do the things that have us feeling joyful, that would be amazing. that would--i

feel blessed to be able to--to send that message out. mike: that's it for this week. join the conversation with us on social media. we are cctv america on twitter, facebook, and youtube, and now you can watch h ull frame"e" on our new mobile app, available worldwide on any smartphone for free. get the latest news headlines and connect to us on facebook, twitter, youtube, and weibo. search "cctv america" on your app store to download today. all of our interviews can still also be found online at cctv-america.com, and let us know what you'd like us to take "full frame" next. simply email us at fullframe@cctv-america.com. until then, i'm mike walter in new york city. we'll see you next time. ó ?a?a?a?a#@#@

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