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amy: from new york and st. louis, this is democracy now! mr. trump: oh, 33,000? yeah. mrs. clinton: not - well, we turned over 35,000, so. mr. trump: oh, yeah. what about the other 15,000? mr. cooper: please allow her to respond. she didn't talk while you talked. mrs. clinton: yes, that's true, i didn't.
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amy: donald trump and hillary clinton face in what has been described as the ugliest debate in u.s. historory. they met in st. louis two days after a shocking video was unearthed showing trump openlyly braggi about groroping women. >> i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just are kissing them. you can do anything. grab them by the pussy. you can do anything. amy: today in a democracy now! special we will expand the debate by giving the green party's jill stein a chance to respond to the same questions posed to trump and clinton. amerirican people consisider these candidates the most un-trusted and disliked in our history. after the revelations of thehe last week and afterer these last
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debates which have been pretty devovoid of meaningful content i think their assessment by the american people as not likable and not trustworthy has been absolutely vindicated. amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. in haiti, the death toll from hurricane matthew has topped 1,000, as the country battles a growing cholera epidemic and authorities dig mass graves for those killed by the category four storm. un officials said nearly one million people are in urgent need of humanitarian assistance, with up to 80 percent of haiti's food crops destroyed in some areas. aid agencies say at least 60,000 people are staying in temporary shelters. survivors reported drinking well water contaminated by dead livestock. at least 13 people have died of cholera, after flood waters mixed with sewage.
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officials are warming of a looming epidemic. in the u.s., the death toll from hurricane matthew has reached 17, after the storm lashed the atlantic coast from florida to virginia. at least eight people died in north carolina, where heavy rains caused record-breaking flooding. in news from the campaign trail, a defiant donald trump squared off against hillary clinton in a bitter presidential debate on sunday, capping an extraordinary weekend that saw top republicans call on trump to end his presidential run following the release of a video tape showing trump boasting about sexually assaulting women. the three-minute video, recorded by nbc's access hollywood in 2005, was released friday by the washington post. it opens with audio of trump and tv host billy bush speaking on a bus as trump prepares to meet arianne zucker, star of the soap opera "days of our lives." a warning to our audience - this video contains vulgar, disturbing language. >> got to use some tick tax in
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case i start kissing her. i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. it's like a magnet. when you are a star, t they let you do it. you can do anything. grab them by the pussy. amy: the release of the video dodominated campaign coverage throughout the weekend and set the tone for sunday night's debate in st. louis, where trump was confronted by co-moderator anderson cooper of cnn. you called what you said locker room banter. you described kissing women without consent, grabbing their genitals. that is sexual assault. you bragged that you have sexually assaulted women. do you understand that? mr. trump: no, i didn't say that at all. i don't think you understood what was - this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i apologize to my family. i apologize to the american people. certainly i'm not proud of it. but this is locker room talk.
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donald trump confronted hillary clinton ovover tens of thousands of emails deleted from her private email servers during her time as secretary of state, saying clinton would "be in jail" if he wins the presidency. during the 90-minute debate, clinton and trump fielded pre-screened questions from selected audience members. the candidates were asked about the affordable care act; potential supreme court nominees; islamophobia and trump's call to ban all muslims from entering the country; income taxes; syria's civil war; and energy policies. global warming was mentioned only once, in passing, by hillary clinton. third-party candndidates, including libertarian gary johnson and the green party's jill stein, were excluded from the debate stage under stringent a rules set by the commission on presidential debates, which is controlled by the democratic and republican parties. but after headlines, democracy now! will be expanding the debate: we'll pause the tape after questions answered by donald trump and hillary clinton to get response from green party presidential nominee jill stein. and will you the debate came as a growing number of republican officials only called on trump to step down as their party's nominee following friday's release of
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modeling following friday's release of the video showing trump boasting of sexual assault. 15 republican senators including your wedding former gop longer presidential nominee john and you will you mccain are now openly opposing trump's in candidacy. a the highest-ranking republican one woman in congress condemned eight trump's comments. congresswoman cathy mcmorris rodgers of washington state said quote "it is never appropriate to condone unwanted sexual or advances or vioiolence againt you women. mr. trump must realize that it has no place in public or private conversations." end private conversations." end quote. in relate to the you furor over donald trump's boasts of sexual assault has launched a new hash tag on social media. on friday, writer kelly oxford invited women on twitter to by share their harrowing stories, using the hash tag, #notokay. half an hour later, she wrote, quote "i am currently receiving 2 sex assault stories per second. anyone denying rape culture, please look atat my timeline no" unquote. by saturday night, oxford reported 9.7 million twitter
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interactions. meanwhile, nbc news has suspended billy bush from the "today" show over his comments in the 2005 donald trumpmp vide bush is hearard cheering on dond trump's descriptions of groping and sexually assaulting women, and objectifying arianne zucker, billy bush is the cousin of former floridada governor jeb bh anand president george w. bush. in other campaign news, wikileaks has released excerpts of hillary clinton's paid remarks to wall street firms, showing the democratic presidential nominee's closed-door remarks were starkly at odds with many of her public positions. the speeches became a major flash point in the democratic primaries after clinton's opponent, sen. bernie sanders, challenged clinton to reveal transcripts of her speeches, for which she was paid more than $22 million. in one speech to a housing trade group in 2013, clinton spoke of "unsavory" political maneuvering and needing "both a public and a private position" when crafting laws. in an exchange with goldman sachs ceo lloyd blankfein in 2013, clinton complained about ethics rules requiring politicians to sell off certrtan assets when taking office, the wikileaks revelations came just hours after thehe clinton campaign accused russia of siding with donald trump in the presidential race.
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campaign spokesperson blamed russian hackers for stealing clinton campaign emails and said the kremlin had "weaponized" wikileleaks to meddle in the u elecection. in y yemen, hospitalals strugglo care for the wounded after a u.s.-bacacked saudi coalition bombed a funeral hall in t the capital, sanaa, killing at least 140 mourners and wounding more than 500 others. survivors spoke of back-to-back bombings during a funeral service for the father of an you service for the fathther ofn official with the rebel houthi governmentnt, which controls sanaa. you willll >> you were over 800 people in the whole including the elderly and children. suddenly we heard bombing. the first bomb ripped through the ceiling and exploded with the basement dedestroyed as w w. i i was injured and at a loss. the heat made me feel i was burning. iran towards the door where pepeople came toto rescue us. the second bomb hit those people coming to rescue us. amy: thousands of yemenis gathered at the united nations' building in sanaa on sunday calling for an international investigation into the assault. the obama administration on saturday condemned the airstrikes, saying in a statement it had initiated a review of u.s. military support to saudi arabia and that, quote, "u.s. security cooperation with saudi arabia is
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not a blank check." unquote the attatack was carriried out with warplanes and munitions sosold o the saudi-led coalition by the united states. a federal appeals court on sunday rejected a bid by the standing rock sioux tribe e to permanently halt construction on part of the dakota access pipeline. the ruling by the d.c. circuit court of appeals paves the way for the dakota access company to resume construction on private lands adjacent to lake oahe on the missouri river. members of hundreds of indigenous nations who've gathered at the standing rock reservation say theyey'll contie to fight the dakota access pipeline. and those are some of the headlines this is democracy now, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. with the presidential election just over weeks away donald trump and hillary clinton faced off last night at washington university in st louis in what politico described as the ugliest debate ever.
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on friday washington post posted a shocking video from 2005 of trump talking on an open microphone about groping women. trump is now facing a growing number of calls to step down as the republican party's nominee. we will spend the rest of the show airing excepts and giving green party presidential candidate, jill stein, a chance to respond to the same questions posed to the major party candidates. stein and libertarian presidential candidate gary johnson were excluded from the debate under stringent rules set by the commission on presidential debates, which is controlled by the democratic and republican parties. we invited both stein and johnson to join us on the program. only stein took us up on the offer. we turn now to the debate moderators.
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mr. trump: i'd like to know, anderson, why aren't you bringing up the e-mails? i'd like to know. why aren't you bringing. mr. cooper: we brought up the e-mails. mr. trump: no, it hasn't. it hasn't. and it hasn't been finished at all. mr. cooper: ken karpowicz has a question. mr. trump: it's nice to - one on three. >> thank you. affordable care act, known as obamacare, it is not affordable. premiums have gone up. deductibles have gone up. copays have gone up. prescriptions have gone up. and the coverage has gone down. what will you do to bring the cost down and make coverage better? mr. cooper: that first one goes to secretary clinton, because you started out the last one to the audience. mrs. clinton: if he wants to start, he can start. no, go ahead, donald. mr. trump: no, i'm a gentleman, hillary. go ahead. [laughter] mr. cooper: secretary clinton? mrs. clinton: well, i think donald was about to say he's going to solve it by repealing it and getting rid of the affordable care act. and i'm going to fix it, because i agree with you. premiums have gotten too high. copays, deductibles,
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prescription drug costs, and i've laid out a series of actions that we can take to try to get those costs down. but here's what i don't want people to forget when we're talking about reining in the costs, which has to be the highest priority of the next president, when the affordable care act passed, it wasn't just that 20 million got insurance who didn't have it before. but that in and of itself was a good thing. i meet these people all the time, and they tell me what a difference having that insurance meant to them and their families. but everybody else, the 170 million of us who get health insurance through our employees got big benefits. number one, insurance companies can't deny you coverage because of a pre-existing condition. number two, no lifetime limits, which is a big deal if you have serious health problems. number three, women can't be charged more than men for our health insurance, which is the
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way it used to be before the affordable care act. number four, if you're under 26, and your parents have a policy, you can be on that policy until the age of 26, something that didn't happen before. so i want very much to save what works and is good about the affordable care act. but we've got to get costs down. we've got to provide additional help to small businesses so that they can afford to provide health insurance. but if we repeal it, as donald has proposed, and start over again, all of those benefits i just mentioned are lost to everybody, not just people who get their health insurance on the exchange. and then we would have to start all over again. right now, we are at 90% health insurance coverage. that's the highest we've ever been in our country. mr. cooper: secretary clinton, your time is up. mrs. clinton: so i want us to get to 100%, but get costs down and keep quality up. mr. cooper: mr. trump, you have two minutes.
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mr. trump: it is such a great question and it's maybe the question i get almost more than anything else, outside of defense. obamacare is a disaster. you know it. we all know it. it's going up at numbers that nobody's ever seen worldwide. nobody's ever seen numbers like this for health care. it's only getting worse. in '17, it implodes by itself. their method of fixing it is to go back and ask congress for more money, more and more money. we have right now almost $20 trillion in debt. obamacare will never work. it's very bad, very bad health insurance. far too expensive. and not only expensive for the person that has it, unbelievably expensive for our country. it's going to be one of the biggest line items very shortly. we have to repeal it and replace it with something absolutely much less expensive and
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something that works, where your plan can actually be tailored. we have to get rid of the lines around the state, artificial lines, where we stop insurance companies from coming in and competing, because they want - and president obama and whoever was working on it - they want to leave those lines, because that gives the insurance companies essentially monopolies. we want competition. you will have the finest health care plan there is. she wants to go to a single-payer plan, which would be a disaster, somewhat similar to canada. and if you haven't noticed the canadians, when they need a big operation, when something happens, they come into the united states in many cases because their system is so slow. it's catastrophic in certain ways. but she wants to go to single payer, which means the government basically rules everything. hillary clinton has been after this for years. obamacare was the first step. obamacare is a total disaster. and not only are your rates going up by numbers that nobody's ever believed, but your deductibles are going up, so that unless you get hit by a truck, you're never going to be able to use it.
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mr. cooper: mr. trump, your time. mr. trump: it is a disastrous plan, and it has to be repealed and replaced. >> health care costs are skyrocketing. we pay essentially $3 trillion a year for health care when you , business andment out-of-pocket expenses. one out of every three americans cannot afford health care. the numbers of coverage have gone up but there is massive under insurance and it is prohibitive. the premiums and adoptable's and co-pays are too high so many people with insurance cannot afford to get it.
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there is almost half $1 trillion of needless expense in the affordable care act. this was the boondoggle built in for insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies that they are making out like bandits in the health care system based on profit, not based on people. the solution is pretty straightforward. we need a medicaid for all system. right now 25% of health-care costs are spent on wasteful paper pushing on ceo salaries, advertising etc. exorbitant pharmaceutical costs like paying $400 for an epipen which contains one dollar worth of medication. this is the kind of abuse that is built into this program because we do not have the capacity to negotiate and do bulk purchasing which needs to be built in.
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under an improved medicare for all system that 25% overhead is reduced to about 1%. put our healtho care dollars truly into health care so that you are covered head to toe cradle-to-grave. your mental health, pharmaceuticals, hearing aid, insulin pump. whatever. and your reproductive health care and your mental health care and the health care decisions are between you and your doctor. it gets corporations off your back and it gets ceo's out of the business of deciding and micromanaging your health care. green party presidential nominee jill stein. after a short break we will return to the debate and gives dr. stein a chance to respond to those questions posed to the major party candidates. stay with us.
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amy: i'm amy goodman. we are spending the show airing experts of the donald trump hillary clinton presidential debate. giving green party presidential candidate jill stein a chance to respond to the same questions posed by major party candidates. kerry johnson excluded from the debate under stringent rules by the commission on presidential debates. wewe invited the stein and johnn to join us. only stein took us up on the offer. we thought we would bring you what democracy sounds like. go back to debate moderator anderson cooper of cnn. mr. cooper: thank you, mr.
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trump. the question from patrice was about are you both modeling positive and appropriate behavior for today's youth? we received a lot of questions online, mr. trump, about the tape that was released on friday, as you can imagine. you called what you said locker room banter. you described kissing women without consent, grabbing their genitals. that is sexual assault. you bragged that you have sexually assaulted women. do you understand that? mr. trump: no, i didn't say that at all. i don't think you understood what was - this was locker room talk. i'm not proud of it. i apologize to my family. i apologize to the american people. certainly i'm not proud of it. but this is locker room talk. you know, when we have a world where you have isis chopping off heads, where you have - and, frankly, drowning people in steel cages, where you have wars and horrible, horrible sights all over, where you have so many bad things happening, this is like medieval times. we haven't seen anything like this, the carnage all over the world. and they look and they see. can you imagine the people that
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are, frankly, doing so well against us with isis? and they look at our country and they see what's going on. yes, i'm very embarrassed by it. i hate it. but it's locker room talk, and it's one of those things. i will knock the hell out of isis. we're going to defeat isis. isis happened a number of years ago in a vacuum that was left because of bad judgment. and i will tell you, i will take care of isis. mr. cooper: so, mr. trump. mr. trump: and we should get on to much more important things and much bigger things. mr. cooper: just for the record, though, are you saying that what you said on that bus 11 years ago that you did not actually kiss women without consent or grope women without consent? mr. trump: i have great respect for women. nobody has more respect for women than i do. mr. cooper: so, for the record, you're saying you never did that? mr. trump: i've said things that, frankly, you hear these things i said. and i was embarrassed by it. but i have tremendous respect for women. mr. cooper: have you ever done those things? mr. trump: and women have respect for me. and i will tell you: no, i have not. and i will tell you that i'm going to make our country safe. we're going to have borders in our country, which we don't have now. people are pouring into our country, and they're coming in from the middle east and other places. we're going to make america safe again.
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we're going to make america great again, but we're going to make america safe again. and we're going to make america wealthy again, because if you don't do that, it just - it sounds harsh to say, but we have to build up the wealth of our nation. mr. cooper: thank you, mr. trump. mr. trump: right now, other nations are taking our jobs and they're taking our wealth. mr. cooper: thank you, mr. trump. mr. trump: and that's what i want to talk about.. mr. cooper: secretary clinton, do you want to respond? mrs.s. clinton: well, like everyone else, i've spent a lot of time thinking over the last 48 hours about what we heard and saw. you know, with prior republican nominees for president, i disagreed with them on politics, policies, principles, but i never questioned their fitness to serve. donald trump is different. i said starting back in june that he was not fit to be president and commander-in-chief. and many republicans and independents have said the same thing.
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what we all saw and heard on friday was donald talking about women, what he thinks about women, what he does to women. and he has said that the video doesn't represent who he is. but i think it's clear to anyone who heard it that it represents exactly who he is. because we've seen this throughout the campaign. we have seen him insult women. we'veve seen n him ratete womenn their appearance, ranking them from one to ten. we've seen him embarrass women on tv and on twitter. we saw him after the first debate spend nearly a week denigrating a former miss universe in the harshest, most personal terms. so, yes, this is who donald trump is. but it's not only women, and it's not only this video that raises questions about his fitness to be our president,
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because he has also targeted immigrants, african- americans, latinos, people with disabilities, pows, muslims, and so many others. so this is who donald trump is. and the question for us, the question our country must answer is that this is not who we are. that's why - to go back to your question - i want to send a message - we all should - to every boy and girl and, indeed, to the entire world that america already is great, but we are great because we are good, and we will respect one another, and we will work with one another, and we will celebrate our diversity. mrs. clinton: these are very important values to me, because this is the america that i know and love.
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and i can pledge to you tonight that this is the america that i will serve if i'm so fortunate enough to become your president. ms. raddatz: and we want to get to some questions from online. mr. trump: am i allowed to respond to that? i assume i am. ms. raddatz: yes, you can respond to that. mr. trump: it's just words, folks. it's just words. those words, i've been hearing them for many years. i heard them when they were running for the senate in new york, where hillary was going to bring back jobs to upstate new york and she failed. i've heard them where hillary is constantly talking about the inner cities of our country, which are a disaster education-wise, job-wise, safety-wise, in every way possible. i'm going to help the african-americans. i'm going to help the latinos, hispanics. i am going to help the inner cities.
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she's done a terrible job for the african-americans. she wants their vote, and she does nothing, and then she comes back four years later. we saw that firsthand when she was united states senator. she campaigned where the primary part of her campaign. amy: you have two minutes to respond. the question is whether candidates are modeling behavior that is appropriate for our children to emulate. i agree in the strongest terms that donald trump's abusive and abusive language towards women and everybody else is shameful and despicable and a terrible thing for our children and the rest of society to witness. isual violence towards women not a trivial matter. one out of six women is a victim
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of sexual violence. three women today are killed by domestic violence. this issue cannot be over emphasized. as a really critical concern for all of us. at the same time it's very important that we not lose sight , not allow this despicable incident to overshadow the other issues that are very much at stake. let's just look for example at the condition of our youth and our younger generation. not only the sky high rates of unemployment they are facing. the incredible skyrocketing of the cost of college education. that 43 million young people are locked into predatory student loan debt with no way out in the economy as it exists with low-wage part-time
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temporary jobs. having become available since the wall street crash. muchrecovery is pretty limited to the upper 5% to 10%. a few changes around the margins. this has not been a recovery for everyday people. speaking to the climate crisis falling on the shoulders of young people. the only campaign speaking to the endless wars making us less secure and bankrupting our budget. the only candidate that will bail out young people the way and democrats and republicans in congress bailed out wall street. it's about time for us to bail out the victims of wall street. the younger generation trapped in predatory student loans debt. i encourage people to go to my website to be a part of this movement. 43 million young people are
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locked into debt. that is a winning plurality of the vote. if that word or to get out this election could be turned on its head. there is a voter revolt in full swing right now. corporate media is working overtime to try to do a blackout on our campaign which real threat to this politics as usual throwing us under the bus. amy: let's hope that the debate moderator. ms. raddatz: thank you, mr. trump. i want to move on. this next question from the public through the bipartisan open debate coalition's online forum, where americans submitted questions that generated millions of votes. this question involves wikileaks release of purported excerpts of secretary clinton's paid speeches, which she has refused to release, and one line in particular, in which you, secretary clinton, purportedly say you need both a public and private position on certain issues. so, from virginia asks, is it ok for politicians to be two-faced?
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is it acceptable for a politician to have a private stance on issues? secretary clinton, your two minutes. mrs. clinton: well, right. as i recall, that was something i said about abraham lincoln after having seen the wonderful steven spielberg movie called "lincoln." it was a master class watching president lincoln get the congress to approve the 13th amendment. it was principled, and it was strategic. and i was making the point that it is hard sometimes to get the congress to do what you want to do and you have to keep working at it. and, yes, president lincoln was trying to convince some people, he used some arguments, convincing other people, he used other arguments. that was a great - i thought a great display of presidential leadership. but, you know, let's talk about
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what's really going on here, martha, because our intelligence community just came out and said in the last few days that the kremlin, meaning putin and the russian government, are directing the attacks, the hacking on american accounts to influence our election. and wikileaks is part of that, as are other sites where the russians hack information, we don't even know if it's accurate information, and then they put it out. we have never in the history of our country been in a situation where an adversary, a foreign power, is working so hard to influence the outcome of the election. and believe me, they're not doing it to get me elected. they're doing it to try to influence the election for donald trump. mrs. clinton: now, maybe because
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he has praised putin, maybe because he says he agrees with a lot of what putin wants to do, maybe because he wants to do business in moscow, i don't know the reasons. but we deserve answers. and we should demand that donald release all of his tax returns so that people can see what are the entanglements and the financial relationships that he has. ms. raddatz: we're going to get to that later. secretary clinton, you're out of time. mr. trump: well, i think i should respond, because - so ridiculous. look, now she's blaming - she got caught in a total lie. her papers went out to all her friends at the banks, goldman sachs and everybody else, and she said things - wikileaks that just came out. and she lied. now she's blaming the lie on the late, great abraham lincoln. that's one that i haven't. ok, honest abe, honest abe never lied. that's the good thing. that's the big difference between abraham lincoln and you. that's a big, big difference. we're talking about some difference.
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but as far as other elements of what she was saying, i don't know putin. i think it would be great if we got along with russia because we could fight isis together, as an example. but i don't know putin. but i notice, anytime anything wrong happens, they like to say the russians are - she doesn't know if it's the russians doing the hacking. maybe there is no hacking. but they always blame russia. and the reason they blame russia because they think they're trying to tarnish me with russia. i know nothing about russia. i know - i know about russia, but i know nothing about the inner workings of russia. i don't deal there. i have no businesses there. i have no loans from russia. i have a very, very great balance sheet, so great that when i did the old post office on pennsylvania avenue, the united states government, because of my balance sheet, which they actually know very well, chose me to do the old
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post office, between the white house and congress, chose me to do the old post office. one of the primary area things, in fact, perhaps the primary thing was balance sheet. but i have no loans with russia. you could go to the united states government, and they would probably tell you that, because they know my sheet very well in order to get that development i had to have. now, the taxes are a very simple thing. as soon as i have - first of all, i pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes. many of her friends took bigger deductions. warren buffett took a massive deduction. soros, who's a friend of hers, took a massive deductition. many of the people that are giving her all this money that she can do many more commercials than me gave her - took massive deductions. i pay hundreds of millions of dollars in taxes. but - but as soon as my routine audit is finished, i'll release my returns. i'll be very proud to. >> on this issue of public versus private use, that is certainly borne out by her history. her public statement is that she is a friend to women and children. her actual track
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record is to dismantle aid to families with dependent children. to have supported nafta and the off shoring of jobs in the transpacific partnership. she is against it but her director of transition is the big booster as is her vp candidate. in haiti we have secretary of state. hillary clinton led the charge to push down the abysmal poverty wages of the haitian people from $.60 an hour to a shocking $.40 an hour or so as to boost the american corporations. and on black lives matter. there was left service to the cause of racial justice. but the democratic party official position revealed again in some leaked e-mails was that pat them on the head. meet with them but don't make any concessions to them. do not give them any ground.
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do not in other words acknowledge what a crisis situation this is. where african-americans are at risk driving in their cars down the street from police violence. problem and it goes hand-in-hand with another statement that was just released where hillary's dead that she doesn't have much contact with people because of the economic fortunes that she and her husband have enjoyed. in blaming this on abraham noteworthy that abraham lincoln was a third inty candidate and that times of great social upheaval third parties occasionally prevail. the issue iseople the politics of fear and the greater fear of donald trump that overrides everything else including hillary clinton's record creating the economic
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misery leading to the rise of donald trump. to underscore for people to remember what happened to under richard nixon. one of the most terrible regressive presidents we have ever had. under this terrible president we achieved bringing the troops home from vietnam. women's right to choose. the clean air act. the clean water act. detections for workers in the workplace. we were standing up and leading the charge toward the kind of policies that we actually deserve. it's important for us to lead with the politics of courage. the politics of fear has delivered everything we were afraid of. after a short break we will return to the presidential debate. in st. louis and give dr. stein a chance to continue to respond to the same questions posed to the major party candidates.
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this is the extending the debate special. stay with us. to see our full interview
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with them go to democracy now.org. this is democracy now, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. we are spending the show airing excerpts of the presidential debate in st. louis at washington university and giving green party presidential candidate jill s stein a chanceo respond to the same questions posed by the major party candidates. butlso invited gary johnson he did not take us up on our offer. let's go back to the debate. co-moderated by anderson cooper of cnn and martha read it of abc. we have another audience question. beth miller has a question for both candidates. >> good evening. perhaps the most important aspect of this election is the supreme court justice. what would you prioritize as the most important aspect of selecting a supreme court justice? ms. raddatz: we begin with your two minutes, secretary clinton.
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mrs. clinton: thank you. well, you're right. this is one of the most important issues in this election. i want to appoint supreme court justices who understand the way the world really works, who have real-life experience, who have not just been in a big law firm and maybe clerked for a judge and then gotten on the bench, but, you know, maybe they tried some more cases, they actually understand what people are up against. because i think the current court has gone in the wrong direction. and so i would want to see the supreme court reverse citizens united and get dark, unaccountable money out of our politics. donald doesn't agree with that. i would like the supreme court to understand that voting rights are still a big problem in many parts of our country, that we don't always do everything we can to make it possible for people of color and older people and young people to be able to exercise their franchise.
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i want a supreme court that will stick with roe v. wade and a woman's right to choose, and i want a supreme court that will stick with marriage equality. now, donald has put forth the names of some people that he would consider. and among the ones that he has suggested are people who would reverse roe v. wade and reverse marriage equality. i think that would be a terrible mistake and would take us backwards. i want a supreme court that doesn't always side with corporate interests. i want a supreme court that understands because you're wealthy and you can give more money to something doesn't mean you have any more rights or should have any more rights than anybody else. so i have very clear views about what i want to see to kind of change the balance on the supreme court. and i regret deeply that the senate has not done its job and they have not permitted a vote on the person that president obama, a highly qualified person, they've not given him a vote to be able to be have the full complement of nine supreme
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court justices. i think that was a dereliction of duty. i hope that they will see their way to doing it, but if i am so fortunate enough as to be president, i will immediately move to make sure that we fill that, we have nine justices that get to work on behalf of our people. ms. raddatz: thank you, secretary clinton. thank you. you're out of time. mr. trump? mr. trump: justice scalia, great judge, died recently. and we have a vacancy. i am looking to appoint judges very much in the mold of justice scalia. i'm looking for judges - and i've actually picked 20 of them so that people would see, highly respected, highly thought of, and actually very beautifully reviewed by just about everybody. but people that will respect the constitution of the united states. and i think that this is so important. also, the second amendment,
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which is totally under siege by people like hillary clinton. they'll respect the second amendment and what it stands for, what it represents. so important to me. amy: your response. we very much need supreme court justices who are ready to stand up for every day people. that means to end the stranglehold that take money has on our political system. that means not only overturning citizens united but supporting the fact that money is not speech and the corporations are not people. in addition we need strong support for our rights as voters which are being encroached on by voter id laws terribly. and we need to support the constitutional right to vote and ensure that there is positive
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and continuous support for that right to vote which is very much under threat. and in addition the supreme court needs to be strongly in support of women's rights. the rights of immigrants. workers rights. and lgbtq rights. thank you. amy: let's go back to the debate moderator. ms. raddatz: and, secretary clinton, i do want to follow up on e- mails. you've said your handing of your e-mails was a mistake. you disagreed with fbi director james comey, calling your handling of classified information, quote, "extremely careless." the fbi said that there were 110 classified e-mails that were exchanged, eight of which were top secret, and that it was possible hostile actors did gain access to those e-mails. you don't call that extremely careless? mrs. clinton: well, martha, first, let me say - and i've said before, but i'll repeat it, because i want everyone to hear it - that was a mistake, and i take responsibility for using a personal e-mail account.
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obviously, if i were to do it over again, i would not. i'm not making any excuses. it was a mistake. and i am very sorry about that. but i think it's also important to point out where there are some misleading accusations from critics and others. after a year-long investigation, there is no evidence that anyone hacked the server i was using and there is no evidence that anyone can point to at all - anyone who says otherwise has no basis - that any classified material ended up in the wrong hands. i take classified materials very seriously and always have. when i was on the senate armed services committee, i was privy to a lot of classified material.
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obviously, as secretary of state, i had some of the most important secrets that we possess, such as going after bin laden. so i am very committed to taking classified information seriously. and as i said, there is no evidence that any classified information ended up in the wrong hands. ms. raddatz: ok, we're going to move on. mr. trump: and yet she didn't know the word - the letter c on a document. right? she didn't even know what that word - what that letter meant. you know, it's amazing. i'm watching hillary go over facts. and she's going after fact after fact, and she's lying again, because she said she - you know, what she did with the e-mail was fine. you think it was fine to delete 33,000 e-mails? i don't think so. she said the 33,000 e-mails had to do with her daughter's
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wedding, number one, and a yoga class. well, maybe we'll give three or three or four or five or something. 33,000 e-mails deleted, and now she's saying there wasn't anything wrong. and more importantly, that was after getting a subpoena. that wasn't before. that was after. she got it from the united states congress. and i'll be honest, i am so disappointed in congressmen, including republicans, for allowing this to happen. our justice department, where our husband goes on to the back of a airplane for 39 minutes, talks to the attorney general days before a ruling is going to be made on her case. but for you to say that there was nothing wrong with you deleting 39,000 e-mails, again, you should be ashamed of yourself. what you did - and this is after getting a subpoena from the united states congress. mr. cooper: we have to move on. mr. trump: you did that. wait a minute. one second. mr. cooper: secretary clinton, you can respond, and then we got to move on. ms. raddatz: we want to give the audience a chance. mr. trump: if you did that in the private sector, you'd be put in jail, let alone after getting a subpoena from the united states congress. mr. cooper: secretary clinton, you can respond. then we have to move on to an audience question. mrs. clinton: look, it's just not true. and so please, go to. mr. trump: oh, you didn't delete them? mr. cooper: allow her to
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respond, please. mrs. clinton: it was personal e-mails, not official. mr. trump: oh, 33,000? yeah. mrs. clinton: not - well, we turned over 35,000, so. mr. trump: oh, yeah. what about the other 15,000? mr. cooper: please allow her to respond. she didn't talk while you talked. mrs. clinton: yes, that's true, i didn't. mr. trump: because you have nothing to say. mrs. clinton: i didn't in the first debate, and i'm going to try not to in this debate, because i'd like to get to the questions that the people have brought here tonight to talk to us about. mr. trump: get off thihis question. mrs. clinton: ok, donald. i know you're into big diversion tonight, anything to avoid talking about your campaign and the way it's exploding and the way republicans are leaving you. but let's at least focus. mr. trump: let's see what happens. mr. cooper: allow her to respond. >> the e-mails amounts to gross negligence which is the threshold for prosecution for having violated laws about national security information should we handle.
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the fact that a hacker was not doesn't mean anything because hackers often leave no trace and you only find out long after. stated ininton also the inspector general's report that this was intentional. she did not want her private business subject to freedom of information act. what she deleted amounted to half the volume of her e-mail which is pretty staggering that someone on a job as busy as the secretary of state's job has half their time on the job or at least half the volume of their e-mails spent on their own personal business. it's a little bit disturbing that as she is conducting the secretary's business she has this clinton foundation business where she is granting special favors, special
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partnerships, special government etc. tos, weapons deals clinton foundation donors. there is a lot that represents how the economic and political elites are very much represented by both of these candidates and underscores why it really important for us to exercise our power in a democracy. right to know who we can vote for as well as a right to vote. to go to our website and join our campaign fofor open debate so we c can ty learn what is at stake and what our options are. amy: let's go back to the debate. ms. raddatz: we're going to move on to syria. both of you have mentioned that. mr. trump: she said a lot of things that were false. i mean, i think we should be allowed to maybe.
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ms. raddatz: no, we can - no, mr. trump, we're going to go on. this is about the audience. mr. trump: excuse me. because she has been a disaster as a senator. a disaster. ms. raddatz: mr. trump, we're going to move on. the heart-breaking video of a 5-year-old syrian boy named omran sitting in an ambulance after being pulled from the rubble after an air strike in aleppo focused the world's attention on the horrors of the war in syria, with 136 million views on facebook alone. but there are much worse images coming out of aleppo every day now, where in the past few weeks alone, 400 people have been killed, at least 100 of them children. just days ago, the state department called for a war crimes investigation of the syrian regime of bashar al-assad and its ally, russia, for their bombardment of aleppo. so this next question comes through social media through facebook. diane from pennsylvania asks, if you were president, what would you do about syria and the humanitarian crisis in aleppo? isn't it a lot like the holocaust when the u.s. waited too long before we helped? secretary clinton, we will begin
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with your two minutes. mrs. clinton: well, the situation in syria is catastrophic. and every day that goes by, we see the results of the regime by assad in partnership with the iranians on the ground, the russians in the air, bombarding places, in particular aleppo, where there are hundreds of thousands of people, probably about 250,000 still left. and there is a determined effort by the russian air force to destroy aleppo in order to eliminate the last of the syrian rebels who are really holding out against the assad regime. russia hasn't paid any attention to isis. they're interested in keeping assad in power. so i, when i was secretary of state, advocated and i advocate today a no-fly zone and safe zones. we need some leverage with the russians, because they are not going to come to the negotiating table for a diplomatic resolution, unless there is some leverage over them. and we have to work more closely with our partners and allies on the ground. but i want to emphasize that what is at stake here is the ambitions and the aggressiveness of russia.
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russia has decided that it's all in, in syria. and they've also decided who they want to see become president of the united states, too, and it's not me. i've stood up to russia. i've taken on putin and others, and i would do that as president. i think wherever we can cooperate with russia, that's fine. and i did as secretary of state. that's how we got a treaty reducing nuclear weapons. it's how we got the sanctions on iran that put a lid on the iranian nuclear program without firing a single shot. so i would go to the negotiating table with more leverage than we have now. but i do support the effort to investigate for crimes, war crimes committed by the syrians
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and the russians and try to hold them accountable. ms. raddatz: thank you, secretary clinton. mr. trump? mr. trump: first of all, she was there as secretary of state with the so-called line in the sand, which. mrs. clinton: no, i wasn't. i was gone. i hate to interrupt you, but at some point. mr. trump: ok. but you were in contact - excuse me. you were. mrs. clinton: at some point, we need to do some fact-checking here. mr. trump: you were in total contact with the white house, and perhaps, sadly, obama probably still listened to you. i don't think he would be listening to you very much anymore. obama draws the line in the sand. it was laughed at all over the world what happened. now, with that being said, she talks tough against russia. but our nuclear program has fallen way behind, and they've gone wild with their nuclear program. not good. our government shouldn't have allowed that to happen. russia is new in terms of nuclear. we are old. we're tired. we're exhausted in terms of
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nuclear. a very bad thing. now, she talks tough, she talks really tough against putin and against assad. she talks in favor of the rebels. she doesn't even know who the rebels are. you know, every time we take rebels, whether it's in iraq or anywhere else, we're arming people. and you know what happens? they end up being worse than the people. look at what she did in libya with gadhafi. gadhafi's out. it's a mess. and, by the way, isis has a good chunk of their oil. i'm sure you probably have heard that. it was a disaster. because the fact is, almost everything she's done in foreign policy has been a mistake and it's been a disaster. amy: your final comment. syria is a disaster and it's a very complicated disaster. it is a simple war. it is a proxy war among many nations. it is a pipeline war between russia and the gulf states who are competing to run their europe across
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syria. this is a very complicated situation and there is a hornets nest, a circular firing squad of alliance is here that is extremely complicated. to present a no-fly zone as a solution is extremely dangerous. a no-fly zone means we are going to war with russia. it means we will be shooting down planes in the sky in order to create this no-fly zone which is where russia has a commitment to defending the assad government. remember there was a cease-fire destroyed by the action of the americans bombing apparently by troops thatsyrian destroyed that cease-fire. we need to redouble our efforts.
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we need to acknowledge that were with russia is not an option. there are 2000 nuclear weapons on hairtrigger alert. that dropped out of the nuclear arms control. that was george bush. that was the u.s. allowing the nuclear arms race to reengage. the former premier of the soviet union's said last week that we are now at a more dangerous window regarding nuclear war than we have ever been. really important for the warmongers in the democratic and republican parties to be cooling their jets and foror us to be moving forward towards a weapons embargo and freeze on the funding of those countries contininuing to fund terrorist enterprises. jill stein, thanks so much for being with us.
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