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[captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from pacifica, this is democracy now! mrs. clinton: that is part of my commitment to raise taxes on the wealthy. social security, payroll contribution will go up, as will donald's, assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it. mr. trump: such a nasty woman. amy: in the final debate, donald
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trump hillary clinton square off in las vegas. we will get response and highlights from the showdown. see asmp: everything i no respect for this person. mrs. clinton: that is because he would rather have a puppet. mr. trump: you are the puppet. amy: after highlights, we will speak with the black lives matter cofounder. all that and more coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. "war, peace, and the presidency." donald trump and hillary clinton squared off at the third and final debate at the university of nevada las vegas. in one of the most extreme
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statements of the night, donald trump said he might not accept the results of the election. >> do you make this statement that you will absolutely accept the results of this election? mr. trump: i will look at it at the time. i will keep you in suspense. mrs. clinton. respondclinton: let me to that. that is horrifying. amy: this comes as donald trump continues to claim the election has been rigged during the debate. they faced off on topics from sexual assault, to security, to russia. the debate frequently veered into political attacks. mr. trump: john podesta said you have terrible instincts. bernie sanders that you have bad judgment. who clinton: you should ask bernie sanders is supporting for president. you are the most dangerous
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persrson to run foror presidentn the momodern history of america. amy: we will hear more excerpts from the third and final presidential debate after headlines. hundreds protested at the university of nevada outside the presidential debate. hundreds more rallied outside donald trump's las vegas hotel, were some vendors built a wall of taco trucks to protest the border wall called for by mr. trump. i've been working here at donald trump's hotel for nine years. all i want to say is that we should all be equal because we came to this country to work and not to ask things of the government. here we are coming united. amy: the california attorney general has launched an investigation into whether wells fargo engaged in criminal acts.
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wells fargo is embroiled in a massive scandal over the fake bank accounts created. turkish jets attacked the u.s. backed syrian kurdish fighters in northern syria. turkish state media is reporting the attack killed as many 200 syrian kurdish fighters north of aleppo. says only 10 fighters were killed. the united states is militarily backing both turkey and the syrian kurds. one of the groups lead organizers, two were killed by gunmen tuesday night after leaving an office in northern honduras. repeatedly reported facing death threats as a result of his defense work. the commission on human rights
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provided protection -- have asked for r protection for bothf them. the group is under pressure to sell off their land to build palm oil plantations. a model city is currently being developed that would create a special free trade zone operating outside the law of the honduran government. many companies pushing for these dedevelopment zones are supportd by the world banank. in f flint, michigann, the aclus filed a class-action l lawsuit arguing ththe puic school system is not d done enoughgh to provie childrenen exposed t to lead w h susufficient educatialal servic. anannelected e emergency manager swititched the s source of t thy drdrinking watater to the corrre flt t where -- river in 2014. ,ead is known as a neurotoxin
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whwhich can cause d developmentl delays, especially in children. the lawsuit argues the school system is not adequately screening lead exposed children and providing educational intervention and that the michigan department of education is not -- sufficiently funding. actress shailene woodley pleadad not guilty on charges related to the resistance of protesting the dakota access pipeline. she was arrested along with 27 october numeral 10 during actions to mark indigenous peoples day. she was strip-searched and then put in an orange jumpsuit in the morton county jail, which appears to be a common practice, even for low-level misdemeanor charges. shailene woodley told democracy my!, "never did it cross mind that while trying to protect clean water, trying to ensure a future where our future have access to an element essential for human survival, what ib's rick -- would i be
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strip-searched -- i was shocked. the standing rock sioux tribal have also beens strip-searched after being arrested for nonviolence civil disobedience against the pipeline. meanwhile in iowa, landowner was arrested protesting the pipeline on her family farm over the weekend. her land is one of multiple propertieses where the dakota access pipeline company used eminent domain to secure easements to build the pipeline despite the objection of the landowners. she and her friend were arrested blockading pipeline company trucks saturday. meanwhile in iowa, authorities say an excavator and three bulldozers being used to construct the pipeline were burned over the weekend, destroying up to $2 million worth of equipment. it is the second suspected case of arson against pipeline company equipment.
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all the groups in iowa fighting the pipeline have condemned the alleged arson. said, "weus iowa promote only peaceful and prayerful action." areew york city, residents protesting the fatal police shooting a 66-year-old african-american deborah danner, who was killed by a police sergeant on tuesday. she had mental health issues including schizophrenia. police say she was shot and killed in her own home in the bronx after a neighbor called 911. when police arrived, they found her naked in her bedroom holding a pair of scissors. authorities say sergeant hugh barry fatally shot her after she picked up a baseball bat. deborah danner, 66 years old, known to the nypd as someone who suffered from and the shooting of deborah danner is tragic and
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it is unacceptable. .his shohould never have h happd it is as simple as that. it should never have happened. amy: new york police sergeant hugh barry has been sued twice in recent years for brutality. deborah dan has previously expressed concern about police violence living -- against those living with mental illness. in a 2012 essay, she wrote, we are all aware of the news of the mentally ill who come up against law enforcement and and up dead. dozens rallied in the bronx to demand justice for her. meanwhile, also in new york city , dozens of people rallied outside a manhattan courthouse amidst the beginning of the federal trial for the bronx 120. 120 young men from the bronx arrested on april 27 in whatat s being described as the largest police raid in new york city
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history. the massive operation included at least 700 law enforcement agents, including swat teams, police helicopters, and federal agents from the dea, the u.s. marshals, immigration and customs to read say those arrested are part of two gangs linked to a number of murders. ththe young men have beeeen chad with racketeering, as well as drug and firearm offense is. fafamily members and residents y the rates racially targeted young black men, who they say were not part of gangs. a new report finds law enforcement databases have collected facial recognition for 117 million americans, meaning of all -- meaning half of all adults in the united states have their faces and other biometrics recorded in the databases. the information was released at the georortown univeversity law school. anotherwsuit accuses
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sasamsung smartptphone of beinig explosivive. galaxyt claims a samsung exploded, burst into flames five inches high, and melted the flesh of its owner. this comes after samsung ended the producuction of its galaxy note 7 smartphone because the device is prone to catching on fire and recall 2.5 million phones after complaints the batteries s were exploding.. womenrgentina, thousands of walked out of work on wednesday protesting's strike the brutal rape and murder of a 16-year-old argentine teenager earlier this month. "otesters held signs reading, if you touch one of us, we all react." solidarity protests were held elsewhere. this is an argentine protester. because they don't want to be the next woman in a plastic bag,
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the clock is ticking and there is scarcely 30 hours before another body appears. here, men, to be women, boys, girls, teenagers. we are here representing society. i was a victim and they are victims. amy: those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. i'm nermeen shaikh. lesson -- welcome to our viewers . republican donald trump and democrat hillary clinton faced off wednesday night in las vegas in the final debate before the election. trump continued to claim the election has been rigged and said he would not commit to accepting the outcome of the vote if he l loses. his comments sparked an outcry even from within his own party. republican senator jeff of arizona tweeted, "donald trump saying you might not accept election results is beyond the pale." republican strategists steve
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schmidt describes the comment is a disqualifying moment for donald trump. the debate was filled with personal attacks. clinton accused trump of being a puppet of russian president putin, well trump called clinton a "nasty woman." donald trump has rejected the claim of nine women who he sexually assaulted them. amy: we will get response from one of the black lives and more. we begin the hour looking at the issue of immigration. this is donald trump speaking at the debate. mr. trump: now, i want to build a wall, we need the wall. the border patrol, ice, they all want the wall. we stop the drugs, we shore up the border. one of my first actd will be to get the bad, bad people that have to go out. we are going to get them out, we
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are going to secure the border, once the border is secured, we will make a determination as to the rest. we have some bad {here -- hombres here and we are going to get them out. >> sin question to you, mrs. clinton. mrs. clinton: as he was talking, i was thinking about a young girl i met in las vegas am a carla, who is very worried that her parents might be deported because she was born in this country, but they were not. they work hard, they do everything they can to give her a good life. you are right, i don't want to rip families apart. i don't want to be sending parents away from children. i don't want to see the deportation force that donald has talked about in action in our country. we have 11 million undocumented people. he said, as recently as a few weeks ago, in phoenix that every
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undocumented person would be subject to deportation. here is what that means. it means he would have to have a massive law enforcement presence. where law enforcement officers would be going school to school, home to home, business to business, rounding up people who are undocumented. and we would then have to put them on trains, on buses to get them out of our country. when it comes to the wall that he talks about building, he went to mexico, he had a meeting with the mexican president, he did not even raise it, he choked, and then got into a twitter war because the mexican president said we're not paying for that wall. mr. wallace: mr. trump -- mr. trump: i think i should respond to that. first of all, i had a very good meeting with the president of mexico. very nice man. we will be doing very much better with mexico on trade deals. believe me. the nafta deal signed by her husband is one of the worst deals ever made of any kind, signed by anybody. it's a disaster. hillary clinton wanted the wall.
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hillary clinton fought for the wall in 2006 or thereabouts. now, she never gets anything done, so naturally the wall wasn't built. but hillary clinton wanted the wall. mr. wallace: well, let me -- wait, wait, sir, let me -- mr. trump: we are a country of laws. we either have -- and by the way -- mr. wallace: now, wait. i'd like to hear from -- mr. trump: well -- well, but she said one thing. mr. wallace: i'd like to hear -- i'd like to hear from secretary clinton. mrs. clinton: i voted for border security, and there are -- mr. trump: and the wall. mrs. clinton: there are some limited places where that was appropriate. there also is necessarily going to be new technology and how best to deploy that. but it is clear, when you look at what donald has been proposing, he started his campaign bashing immigrants, calling mexican immigrants rapists and criminals and drug dealers, that he has a very different view about what we should do to deal with immigrants. nermeen: during the debate, donald trump and hillary clinton also sparred over who is best prepared to be president. mr. trump: for 30 years, you
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have been in a position to help and if you say i use something else, make it impossible for me to do that, i would not mind. you talk, but you don't get anything done, hillary. just like when you ran the state department. $6 billion was missing. how do you miss $6 billion? ,6 billion was either stolen they don't know. it is gone. $6 billion. if you become president, this country is going to be in some mess, believe me. first ofton: well, all, what he said about the state department is not only untrue, it has been debunked numerous times. but i think it is really an important issue he raised, the 30 years of experience. about just talked briefly that. back in the 1970's, i worked for the children's defense fund and i was taking on discrimination against african american kids in schools, he was getting sued by
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the justice department for racial discrimination is is apartment building. in the 1980's, i was working to reform the schools in arkansas. he was darling $14 million from his father to start his businesses. in the 1990's, i went to beijing and i said, women's rights and human rights. he insulted a former miss universe and called her and eating machine. and on the day when i was in the theation room, monitoring raid that brought osama bin laden to justice, he was hosting "the celebrity apprentice." i'm happy to compare my 30 years of experience, what i've done for this country, trying to help in every way i could, especially kids and families get ahead and stay ahead with your 30 years and i will let the american people make that decision. mr. trump: well, i think i did a much better job, i don't a massive company, some of the greatest assets anywhere in the world, worth many, many billions of dollars. i started with a $1 million loan. i agree with that.
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it is a $1 million loan. i don't they phenomenal company. moderator chris wallace of fox news asked the candidates about social security. mr. wallace: the final question i want to ask you in this regard is -- and let me start with you, would president trump make a security andsocial medicare that included tax increases and benefit cuts, a grand bargain on entitlements? mr. trump: i'm cutting taxes, we are going to grow the economy. it is going to totally help you. one thing we have to do, repeal and replace the disaster known as obamacare. it is destroying our country, it is destroying our businesses, our small business and our big businesses. we have to repeal and replace obamacare. you take a look at the kind of numbers that that will cost us in the year 2017, it is a disaster. if we don't repeal and replace. it is probably going to die of its own weight, but obamacare
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has to go. , 60%,emiums are going up 70%, 80%, next year, they are going to go up over 100% and that really glad that the premiums have started, at least people see what is happening because she wants to keep obamacare and she wants to make it even worse and it can't get any worse. that health care, at the most expensive price, we have to repeal and replace obamacare. mr. wallace: secretary clinton comes in question. at this point, social security and medicare are going to run out of money. will you, as president, consider a grand bargain, a deal that includes both tax increases and benefit cuts to try to save both programs? mrs. clinton: well, chris, i'm on record as saying we need to put more money into the social security trust fund. that is part of my commitment to raise taxes on the wealthy. payrolll security contribution will go up, as will
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donalds, assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it. what we want to do is to replenish -- mr. trump: such a nasty woman. mrs. clinton: we want to make sure we have sufficient resources. eitherll come from raising the cap or finding other ways to get more money into it. i will not cut benefits. i want to enhance benefits for low income workers and for women who have been disadvantaged by the current social security system. amy: that was donald trump interrupting a few seconds before hillary clinton saying, " such a nasty woman." hillary clinton and donald trump facing off in the final presidential debate. back, they spar over the clinton foundation. stay with us. ♪ [music break]
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democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. nermeen: republican donald trump and democrat hillary clinton faced off in the final debate last night. look at the to clinton foundation or at least their debate over it. this is chris wallace of fox news. mr. wallace: in this op-ed about fitness to be president, there have been a lot of developments over the last 10 days, since the last debate. you theseke to ask are questions that the american people have. secretary clinton, during your 2009 senate confirmation hearing, you promised to avoid even the appearance of a conflict of interest with your dealing with the clinton foundation while you were secretary of state, but e-mails show that donors got special access to you. those seeking grants for haiti relief were considered separately from non-donors, and some of those donors got contracts, government contracts, taxpayer money. can you really say that you kept your pledge to that senate committee? and why isn't what happened and
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what went on between you and the clinton foundation, why isn't it what mr. trump calls pay to play? mrs. clinton: well, everything i did as secretary of state was in furtherance of our country's interests and our values. the state department has said that. i think that's been proven. but i am happy, in fact i'm thrilled to talk about the clinton foundation, because it is a world-renowned charity and i am so proud of the work that it does. you know, i could talk for the rest of the debate -- i know i don't have the time to do that. but just briefly, the clinton foundation made it possible for 11 million people around the world with hiv-aids to afford treatment, and that's about half all the people in the world who are getting treatment. in partnership with the american health association -- mr. wallace: secretary clinton -- mrs. clinton: we have made environments in schools healthier for kids, including healthier lunches -- mr. wallace: secretary clinton, respectfully, this is -- this is an open discussion. mrs. clinton: well, it is an open discussion. and you -- mr. wallace: and the specific question went to pay for play. do you want to talk about that?
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mrs. clinton: well, but there is no -- but there is no evidence -- but there is -- mr. trump: i think that it's been very well -- mr. wallace: let's ask mr. trump. mrs. clinton: there is a lot of evidence about the very good work -- mr. trump: it's a criminal enterprise and so many people know it. it's been very well studied. mrs. clinton: and the high rankings -- mr. wallace: please let me mr. trump speak. mr. trump: and it's a criminal enterprise, and so many people know it. mr. wallace: please let mr. trump speak. mr. trump: it's a criminal enterprise. saudi arabia giving $25 million, qatar, all of these countries. you talk about women and women's rights? so these are people that push gays off business -- off buildings. these are people that kill women and treat women horribly. and yet you take their money. so i'd like to ask you right now, why don't you give back the money that you've taken from certain countries that treat certain groups of people so horribly? why don't you give back the money? i think it would be a great gesture. because she takes a tremendous amount of money. and you take a look at the people of haiti. i was at a little haiti the other day in florida. and i want to tell you, they hate the clintons, because what's happened in haiti with the clinton foundation is a disgrace.
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and you know it, and they know it, and everybody knows it. mr. wallace: secretary clinton? mrs. clinton: well, very quickly, we at the clinton foundation spend 90% -- 90% of all the money that is donated on behalf of programs of people around the world and in our own country. i'm very proud of that. we have the highest rating from the watchdogs that follow foundations. and i'd be happy to compare what we do with the trump foundation, which took money from other people and bought a six- foot portrait of donald. i mean, who does that? it just was astonishing. but when it comes to haiti, haiti is the poorest country in our hemisphere. the earthquake and the hurricanes, it has devastated haiti. bill and i have been involved in trying to help haiti for many years. the clinton foundation raised $30 million to help haiti after the catastrophic earthquake and all of the terrible problems the people there had. we have done things to help small businesses, agriculture, and so much else. and we're going to keep working to help haiti --
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mr. wallace: all right. mrs. clinton: because it's an important part of the american experience. mr. trump: they don't want you to help them anymore. mr. trump: i'd like to mention one thing. trump foundation, small foundation. people contribute, i contribute. the money goes 100% -- 100% goes to different charities, including a lot of military. i don't get anything. i don't buy boats. i don't buy planes. what happens -- the money goes to them. mr. wallace: wasn't some of the money used to settle your lawsuits, sir? mr. trump: no, it was -- we put up the american flag. and that's it. they put up the american flag. we fought for the right in palm beach to put up the american flag. mr. wallace: right. but there was a penalty that was imposed by palm beach county, and the money came from your foundation -- mr. trump: there was. there was. and, by the way -- mr. wallace: instead of mar-a-lago or yourself, sir. mr. trump: the money -- the money went to fisher house, where they build houses -- the money that you're talking about went to fisher house, where they build houses for veterans and disabled vets. mr. wallace: i want to get into one -- mrs. clinton: but, of course, there's no way we can know whether any of that is true, because he hasn't released his tax returns. he is the first candidate ever to run for president in the last 40-plus years who has not
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released his tax returns, so everything he says about charity or anything else, we can't prove it. you can look at our tax returns. we've got them all out there. but what is really troubling is that we learned in the last debate he has not paid a penny in federal income tax. and we were talking about immigrants a few minutes ago, chris. you know, half of all immigrants -- undocumented immigrants in our country -- actually pay federal income tax. so we have undocumented immigrants in america who are paying more federal income tax than a billionaire. i find that just astonishing. mr. wallace: i want -- mr. trump: so let me just tell you very quickly, we're entitled because of the laws that people like her passed to take massive amounts of depreciation on other charges, and we do it. and all of her donors -- just about all of them -- i know buffett took hundreds of millions of dollars, soros, george soros, took hundreds of millions of dollars -- mr. wallace: we -- mr. trump: let me just explain. mr. wallace: but, no, we heard this -- mr. trump: most of her donors have done the same thing as i do. mr. wallace: mr. trump, we -- ok. mr. trump: you know what she
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should have done? mr. wallace: folks, we heard this -- mr. trump: and you know, hillary, what you should have done, you should have changed the law when you were a united states senator -- mr. wallace: folks, we heard this -- mr. trump: because your donors and your special interests are doing the same thing as i do, except even more so. mrs. clinton: well, you know -- mr. trump: you should have changed the law. but you won't change the law, because you take in so much money. i mean, i sat in my apartment today on a very beautiful hotel down the street known as trump -- mrs. clinton: made with chinese steel. mr. trump: but i will tell you, i sat there -- i sat there watching ad after ad after ad, false ad. all paid for by your friends on wall street that gave so much money because they know you're going to protect them. and, frankly, you should have changed the laws. mr. wallace: mr. trump -- mr. trump: if you don't like what i did, you should have changed the laws. nermeen: that is donald trump and hillary clinton sparring in the last debate before the november 8 election. the phrase "climate change" only came up one time during the debate. mrs. clinton: the biggest jobs
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program since world war ii. infrastructure, advanced manufacturing. i think we can compete with high wage funding. not only to fight climate change, which is a serious problem, but to create new businesses. amy: i got response from the executive director of 350 action about the failure of the candidates and debate modererors to address the issue of climate change in the debates. >> right, and we all deserve so much better than the political conversation that is being had in this debate and in all of the debates. the debates are obscuring serious issues, like climate change and like so many other problems we are facing in this country and around the world. it is true, the question was not asked. it was brought up in the context of a question about jobs. there is something important in the answer, which is that clinton is speaking to progressives, to the progressive movement, the way ththat we have been trying to build a much
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bigger movement that is focused on the economy, the climate kind,, injustices of all weaving those movements together, that was what that answer was trying to speak to. she tied it to debt-free college, bernie sanders, having the wealthy pay for these things. kindso, those are clues and shs going to need progressives to win and she is going to need us to govern. that is important and we are going to keep pushing. as many guesestsave said, , it s alall about the movement. one thining that was shohockingd scary here is that we know that to get the kind of policy that need, we need a functional democracy and questioning the very idea that that can work is as bigig of a threat to climate change as any number of other issues. i think donald trump's disastrous mess reached another level tonight. amy: need that is the head of 30
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action, a climate justice group. we spoke to pulitzer prize-winning historian eric phone or of columbia university and with eddie glaude, the chair of african-amerirican studies at princeton. nermeen: one of the reasons, just to bring in the professor am of that this election season has been so extraordinary has to do with the rise of a candidate like donald trump. as an american historian, professor, could you explain what you think accounts for this extraordinary rise? >> looking at history, i think trump is a most a combination of a number of figures, both in our history and abroad. there is no individual predecessor to trump, bubut thee are precedents. this did not just come out o of the blue. you might say he is a combination of george wallace, who really was the first to show
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how white resentment against the gains of the civil rights movevement, over racism, could e mobilized in a modern campaign and be pretty successful, not only i in the south, but he did really well and primaries in michigan and other states like that. but wallace was not really talking about the economic issues that donald trump is. you u might throw into the hopp, rossss perot in 1992, the modelf the sortrt of businessmsman whod no political experience and came in with that as his selling point. nobody can bribe me, i'm a billionaire, i can fix things, i know how to get things done. ross perot was also the guy who introduced traded to the political dialogue. he was the first one to say we are losing jobs because of these trade agreements. donald trump has picked that up. on the more personal element and the really wilder element of
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trump, you have to go to a guy like burtis tony may be -- berlusconi in italy, who reveled in the sexual element that many of his supporters thought were pretty cool, the male supporters, as many of mail supporters of trump don't seem to be bothered by the revelations that have come out. and,ut them all together as was said, it is kind of an all ball election, no question about it. nermeen: professor eddie glaude, as these debate comes on populart candidates in decades in american history and younger voters are reportedly is actually dismayed by the state of the race. ona recent survey reported in e bbc found that many younger voters would rather see a giant meteor destroy the earth then
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vote for either hillary clinton or donald trump. [laughter] nermeen: can you talk about that ? what springsteen said about his appeal and then what -- where young voters stand in the race today. prof. glaude: i want is to be very careful in terms of how we characterize donald trurump. we try to characterize him in this way, for the most part, bruce springsteen is right, but we are describing him in such a way that it almost distances him from what the republican party has been doing for decades. the of voter fraud is justification that was used for voter id laws in north carolina and texas, pennsylvania. we have heard this language befofore. when donald trump talks about look at philadelphia, chicago, st. louis, that is not a racial dog whistle, it is a foghorn. he is saying to voters, these black and brown voters are going to steal your election. when he talks about a liberal
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media stealing the election, we have heard this going all the way back to the 1980's and before. we've seen it on the attack of pbs, npr, even "sesame street." is this idea that there is a conspiracy on the part of liberal media to block out conservative viewsws. this question about the legitimacy or the illegitimacy of the election of hillary clinton, we have been experiencing this for the last eight years around president obama's election. the fact that you have this manufactured oututrage on the pt of republicans about what donald trump is doing, he is just simply transporting what they have been doing over the last decade or so into the presidential campaign season. that is the first thing. we don't want to o make the differentiation to start. in terms of young voters, we see that they are in some significant way fed up withth ts duopololy, this two-party syste, many of them are, and they see that their chances cannot be defined by business as usual.
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the republican party is bankrupt. the democratic party is hardly distinguishable. millennials groping for different types of politics, trying to speak to the fact that student debt has overwhelmed, credit card debt, trying to understand how they are going to enter into a place. doesg to understand what it mean to imagine the u.s. as an imperial power under these conditions. how are they going to talk about that we just experienced the record in terms of our stewardship of the planet? i think what we e are seeing -- and this is really important for long-term implications of the i think weackle -- are seeing young people, people of color look at what is going
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on in this election cycle and they are drawing a number of conclusions hummmmable one conclusion they are drawing is that it seems as if white people are losing their minds. that, youo you think spoke earlrlier of the histotorl antecedents to trump. would you go so far to say that trump is the natatural culminatn of where the republican party, what the trajectory has been? prof. foner what professor glaude just said is quite right. mr. trump is more forthright and extreme of things that have gone back to nixon's southern strategy. vice president agnew launched the attack on the press a long time ago. certainly, voter suppression, although sorts of things. but it is a little bit different. just the way he does it. has, a according to the
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polls, which may or may not be accurate, 85% of republicans are going to vote for trump. he is, in many ways, a mainstream republican candidate even though the way he e goes about it is not quite the same as jeb bush or someone like that and the language he uses. but most republicans recognize him as an acceptable republican. he has lost some. hillary is getting 95% of the democratic vote according to these, but that is not that gigantic of a number of republicans who are saying, i'm fed up with trump, he's impossible, he's a demagogue, etc. trump is the logical conclusion of a lot of things the republican party has been doing. i think nixon, for all his sins, was also the father of a lot of strategy,the southern which was based on getting whites in the south to shoot from the democratic party to the republican party based on resentment over the gains of the
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civil rights movementnt. that really planted the seeds for the transformation of the republican party into what we see today and trump is the conclusion of that. of: professors eric foner columbia and professor eddie glaude. let't's turn to bruce springste. in his own words speaking to channel 4 in britain. bruce: i know some from voters. -- trump voters. -- i think that he is really he has really preyed upon that part of the country because he isis very glib and superficial answers to very entrenched and difficult problems, but they are answers that sounds pretty good if you have struggled the past 20-30 yeyears. the appeal, the simple answers to complicated questions.
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they sound like they are listening to you for the first time. >> do you think that these people are racist? bruce: i will think you can generalize like that. i think there are all kinds of people that are interested in him for r a varietety of reason. >> do you think that rage will go away after the election? bruce: no, no. i don't know how it is going to manifest itself, but it will manifest itself somehow. >> do you think there might be trouble? we have already seen some riots on the streets. bruce: the trouble of the moment is you have donald trump talking about rigged elections.. he has a feeling he is going to lose, which of course he is going to lose. >> you are confident? brbruce: yes, he is going to lo. he knows that, he knows he is going to lose. he is such a flagrant toxic narcissist that he wants to take down the entire e democrcratic system with him if he goes.
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if he could reflect on these things, maybe he would have -- but he is such an unreflective person -- he simply has no sense of decency, no sense of responsibility about it. the words that he has been using over the past several weeks really are an attack o on the entirere democratic prococess. >> is that dangerous? bruce: yes, i think it is very dangerous. he has a lot of people's ears. i don't think he is going to go quietly -- gently into the good night. i think he is going to make as big a mess as he can. i don't know what that is going to mean, but we will find out shortly. amy: that is bruce springsteen speaking to channel 4 in britain. we will be back in a minute. ♪ [music break]
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amy: "mansion on the hill" by bruce springsteen. nermeen: let's go back to last night's showdown in las vegas. this is debate moderator chris wallace. mr. wallace: what i'm asking you , do you want to see the court overturned? you said you want to see the court protect the second amendment. do you want to see it overturn roe versus wade? mr. trump: that is really what is going to happen if we put another two or three justices on. i will happen automatically because i am putting pro-life justices on the court. i will say this, it will go back to the states and the states will then make a determination. mrs. clinton: i do not think the united states government should be stepping in and making those most personal of decisions. so you can regulate if you are doing so with the life and the health of the mother taken into account. mr. wallace: your reaction.
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mr. trump: i think it is terrible. if you go with what hillary is saying, in the ninth month, you can take the baby and ripped the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby. nermeen: after this last presidential debate, we asked alicia garza of black lives matter about donald trump's comments. >> it's hard for me to taken seriously to be honest with you. he essentially says that he single-handedly is going to change the course of this country's future. he continues t to use really egregious, less than factual stories that stokes fear, that stoke anxiety, and that defy logic and reason. conversations the around abortion or whether it is the conversation around immigration reform or even if it is this conversation that he
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continues to bring up around the law and order, but then says that he is going to be the best friend to african-americans that we have ever had -- honestly, it is hard to taken seriously. the thing that strikes me is that he is speaking to a set of audiences that are scared, they are t terrified about the futute of this countrtry, they feel disenfranchisesed, they f feel t out, they feel like they are being left out off decision-making. that is not going to g go away after trurump. think goodness trump will go away, but ununfortunately, that level of anxiety, that level of fear, that level of distrust will not go away. amy: you said donald trump will go away? are you sure? we just heard this discussion about he will leave the country in suspense as to what he will do if he lost the election. >> you know, he keeps saying he has the s surprises that somehow never materialized. estimation,, inin my
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is not going to win the presidency. if he does, then we've got a lot of reckoning to do. the thing that i'm more concerned about, quite frankly, is the millions of people thatat hehe has galvanized, who feelele ththey are on the outside.e. that is something that both parties are going to have to address and, quitite frankly, it is something all of us are going to have to pay attention to. nermeen: what would you have liked d for the candidates to be ,sked, including donald trump who as you u describe some of hs more outrageous positions and postures? what should he have be asked? what should they both hahave ben asked to address? >> i think they addressed many of the majajor issues that are facingng our country, but, quite frankly, over these last three debates, i've still been wanting to see morore conversation aroud criminal justice reform. i i want to see more conveversan about what it is going to take to preserve the quality of lifee of black people e in this count, who are being systematically
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, andred, incarcerated otherwise marginalized and disenfranchised. i wanted to hear more from each of the candidates about how these movements that have emererged over the last t few ys have influenced their thinking around how they want to bring america into its future. frarankly, just talking about gugun control does not cut it. we have an epidemic inin this country y of police murderers ad police v vlence and n neither candidate is addddressing it because, clearly, it is not politically expedient to address it. what is at stake is the lives of our families, what is at stake are mothers who are losing their children at astronomical rates. also, what is at stake are the attacks that are coming in more form recently against folks who have disabilities or other illnesses. these are thingsgs that we needo pay attention to. it is not just a crisis of
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whether a toddler gets a hold of a loaded gun. quite frankly, evevery 28 hoursn this country, a black k person s murdered by police, vigilantes, or security guards. if it is not by police, then it is by policies that strip black people of our right to dignity, to respect, and to living a full and good life. we have black people through the south that are being denied medical l care and being denenid .nsurance donald trump talked about how ineffective obamacare was. in fact, we should stop calling it that. it is he afforordable care act. he talked about how ineffective it is, but he did not address the fact that thousands of black peoplele lackk access to that vy health care because republican governors and republican senators refuse to take funding to expand medicaid programs. things like that are things that
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black folks across the country are looking to hear and we are not hearing it. i'm hoping that in this last 20 days, both candidates get a little less tone deaf, stop using us as datate, and instead address the issues we care about. nermeen: during a debate night special, we took questions via social media from our audience. questions came into us from twitter just now. do you support the ongoing mainstream media self-imposed blackout of reporting on israel's humanitarian -- inhuman treatment of palestinians? in the black lives matter's movements many point plan, you address the issue o of palestinians. yes, i think k what is important for folks to iserstand here is that there lots of common cause between african-americans and palestinians and that is not a
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new relationship. that is a relationship that has been forged over decades as a result of very similar feeling conditions that folks are existing in. importantk that it is that we open up these conversations to really address the concerns and the issues that are importanant to all of us. i think that what is happening in palestine and what we have seen through the movement for black lifestyle is the platform -- black lives policy platform is that there is a desire for social movements to connect to movements around the world and to support movements who are struggling and fighting for self-determination, as many of the movements here are, as well. amy: phyllis dennis, you are a long time e observer and activit around the issue of israel-palestine. i don't think there has been a time w where it has been talked about last than in the past few months.
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talk about the situation on the ground and what you think has to happen right now. wrightand right -- anne onon the program, the former american diplomat, who a attempd to get to gaza to challenge the naval blockade, with a group of women from around the world. they were taken into custody. tthe israeli navy. she was sent back to this country. i think it is very important to keep in mind the situation on the ground and the situation of the discourse in the united states. what alicia was just talking about was very important, the rising tide of the black lives the connection with the black community in the united states looking at the question of palestine and the links of solidarity with palestinians, something that emerged so sharply and powerfully at the
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time of the uprising in ferguson , when palestinian activists were tweeting instructions for their comrades and colleagues in ferguson about how to deal with tear gas because the tear gas used by the israeli military against palestinians is made in the united states, it is the same tear gas. they had a lot of experience with it. that kind of immediacy made it rise to a new level. what we are seeing is a scenario where we have an extraordinary shift in the public discourse on this question in the last five years, 10 years, 15 years. where things that have never made before to public discourse is now talked about quite normally, the question of israeli apartheid, it was anathema a decade ago. now, it is even talked about by top israeli officials who say they differ on the timing. we say it is already there, they say if we don't do something different, we are to face apartheid.
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we have this massive shift in the discourse. a significant shift, but a significant one in the media inerage, only a tiny shift some political discourse, the decision of 60 members of congress to skip the speech of the israeli prime minister this past year with never have happened or. on the ground, the situation gets worse. it is the challenge we face, to translate the discourse shift into a policy shift. instead of ending the military aid to the 23rd wealthiest nation to use for violations of human rights, we see the obama administration escalating the annual amount of aid, so that israel will start each year with almost $4 billion, $3.8 billion per year of military aid coming from our tax money to support
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its military. without any restriction on how it uses that money, what weapons it is able to buy. weare having a moment when saw in all of these debates, the question of israel, the relationship of israel and the united dates did not come up, it did not come up again tonight. we do see that there has been this extraordinary shift in the public discourse. the fact that it was addressed for bernie sanders' campaign, the main foreign-policy issue that he took up, that was then reflected in the debate over the democratic party platform. it did not end up welcome the platform was as bad or worse than in 2012, but the fact that it was made an item that had to be fought for was very, very different. i think there is something to recognize, the power of social movements here, but also recognize how far we still have to go. similar to the situation we are
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facing with refugees. we heard tonight this claim from donald trump that hillary clinton had led in -- let in tens of thousands of refugees from syria who were all tied to isis. wrong on all fronts. the fact that the u.s. lettingnt was proud of only 10,000 syrian refugees in in an entire year in a period wherefore entire months germany was taking in 20,000 per day during the height of the refugee crisis was one more example. we don't have a refugee crisis here. we have a racism crisis here. the kind of islamophobia, the isis-bashing we were hearing about these refugees, from trump, what that says about how far we have to go, the kinds of ,ovements we need to build linking the antiwar work with the refugee support work in this country to transform how refugees are treated, so that they are welcomed, not
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grudgingly accepted. take ok, if we have to just 10,000, i guess we can. to say, we welcome people, young people should be demanding the right to go to school with syrians. we were not hearing any challenge to this sort of mainstream assumption that the refugees are inevitably dangerous, possibly violent, need to be vetted more than any other country in the world even imagines betting. we heard no challenge to that tonight and i don't think we will see leadership from the candidates. it is going to have to come from our movements. fellowyllis bennis is a at the institute for policy studies. thanks also to alicia garr is a, cofounder of black lives matter. to watch our full 3.5 hour debate night special that includes the full donald trump-p-hillary clinton showowdn
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