♪ y: from pacifica, thisss mocrcrac now! >> when you take a flight, are you der r obrvation by u.s. marshals? you mabebe, ev if f yoare a u.s. cititizen and not on a terr watch this, even if you have not been suspected of a crime. amy: an investigation exposes

thatecret tsa program monitors airline passengers even if they don't appear on any watch lists. then, we remember the antiwar congressman from oakland, california. he led congressional opposition to the vietnam war and apartheid in south africa. words andar his own his 1990 remarks welcoming nelson mandela to oakland. >> it is fascinating, historic, symbolic. he comes to remind us of the unfinished business of banishing apartheid in south africa and racism in america. amy: all of that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!

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evaluated with more vision than 2020 hindsight. the court stated the fact that law enforcement officers -- >> you have justified police murder. >> us black people, every year, we are here looking for justice. we are tired of watching these snuff movies by the minneapolis police department's. amy: and former california congressman and former oakland mayor ron dellums has died at the age of 82. dellums was a legendary figure in washington for leading the congressional opposition to the vietnam war and apartheid in south africa. later in the

-- he was on richard nixon's enemies list. we will spend much of the hour dellum in hison own words. ourell come to all of listeners and viewers around the country and world. think back to the last time you took a flight. while you were in the airport, did you observe the boarding gate from afar? did you touch your face or perspire? fidget? if you exhibited any of these or other behaviors, armed federal air marshals may have followed you and collected extensive information about your movements. a boston globe investigation has revealed the existence of a domestic surveillance program run by the transportation security administration, or tsa, which has been surveilling us citizens on planes and in airports since 2012. under the program, called "quiet

skies," federal air marshals collect information about u.s. travelers, including common behavior like using the bathroom repeatedly, sleeping on flights, or sweating heavily. this is a video clip from the boston globe about the program. >> air marshals typically assist and surveilled people on terrorist watctch l lists, quiet skies cast a wider net. surveiance targets have included flight attendants, a young business executive, and anheher feral l laenforcrcent officer. yone who flies into the s.s. is prereened for the pgrgram. docunts show about 3people ononomestic flits are monitod each day. thousands have been surveilled. in the wake of the investigation, tsa officials have b bowed to pressure fm cocongress andnd plan to meet wh the house and senate homeland

security committee's. for more, we're joined by jonna winter. is.plain what this program >> thank you for having me. we know since march, thousands of ordinary americans who are not under any investigation, under any watchlist have been followed by teams of armed air marshals from the moment they get to the airport, through the flight and up until they record the license plate number of the vehicle that picks them up in their own arrival city. they write down minute by minute details of everything they do. the bathroom, change close, anyone they .nteract with

is that an iphone, what color is the case? it is a huge amount of information. reason forut the this? you say it started in march. what is the purpose of the program and the reason it was instituted? tsa has not defended it much other than to say it is part of their efforts to screen passengers who may be of higher risk. documents say the idea is to mitigate the threat of attacks to aircraft i know more partially known terrorists. they have been able to provide zero information about why they are doing this, if they found any threats by doing this, or any otheher details.

jon tester ready said the on recognizedsed intelligence is the proper criteria for flight scheduling. the american public would be better served if these air marshals were assigned to airport screening and check-in areas so active shooter events can be swiftly terminated. that is the air marshal associated -- association. they are opposed to this. when we are walking through the airport, 35 to 50 people are soon being tracked by air marshals and followed on planes? what happens if the plane is booked? do they not people out -- today -- do they knock people out of

their seats? bump people from flights every day to sit near the person they are targeting, in this case, someone who has no reason to be followed. it is remarkable. assigned to who are carry out these tasks have been so concerned, i have talked to more than a dozen and they believe they are diverting attention from actual threats by people who have a history of something that could lead to something dangerous and they are worried theyey a are being orded to carry out a program that may not be legal. >> there has been a bipartisan criticism in congress about this program and questions are being raised, where tsa is going to have to defend the program.

can you talk about congressional reaction? >> it is surprising anything could be like this now. tsa has come under a lot of criticism since we published this report. everyone from senate, commerce, senator ed markey from massachusetts to republican rangingdy, it is a far group of people demanding answers. tsa has agreed to brief the floor committees to have oversight of the agency wednesday and thursday of this week. last year, jody hice introduced a bill that would encourage them to invest in strategy. i learned while the federal air marshals service considers

its travel budget and personnel when determining which flights will be covered by air marshals, they do not consider risk. this system might maximize flights covered by air marshals, but it does not ensure the highest risk flights, those likely to be hijacked by a potential terrorist, would be covered by air marshals. the aviation security act would fix this by requiring the federal air marshals service to incorporate risk in its the appointment strategy. hice.hat was jody comment on this and the care, who ares like deeply concerned about who gets followed, who is getting profiled here. hice, pretty clear this

is not what he had in mind. they are removing air marshals from flights with people who are on a watchlist or on routes considered high risk and put on a flight to follow someone who any crime orted suspected of committing crime because they have, for example, traveled to turkey recently. there is concern on both sides of the aisle. people are saying -- what is going on? what are they using to base the decision on who to follow? what kind of profiling does this

do? we h have a lot of questions. questions. lot of >> in terms of the tsa, how extensive is the tsa program? do we have an idea of how many air marshals there are and what their normal workload is? air marshalsl service is under tsa. 2016, their budget was $800 million. they have a little under 3000 air marshals flying around the country every day. there are more than 40,000 flights domestically every day. there is a small percentage of where they are going to be. leads to them being assigned to follow a

southwest flight attendant who was working a flight because she had suspicious travel patterns, probably job-related. that is where we are at. link to y your piece. this is democracy now! when we come back, we remember ron dellums. ♪ [music break]

amy: "party at the nsa." remember rondell loans died mondayms, who at the age of 82. he led the congressional opposition to the the and not more and apartheid in south africa. he became the first self-described socialist to be elected to congress. he served in the house for 27 years. he was a lifelong fears

activists who pushed for a probe into u.s. crimes committed in vietnam. after his effort failed dellums held his own ad hoc war crimes hearings. his activism landed him on president richard nixon's enemies list. he said he was not going to back away from being called a radical. the he also led congressional opposition to u.s.-backed apartheid in south africa. for nearly 15 years he would push legislation to ban u.s. trade and investment in south africa. >> look at black people dying and suffering in south africa. i ask why. drop bombs on no one. for some reason, black people have suffered at an extraordinary level all ovever e world. at this point, it is heightened

in its intensity and south africa. i offer a proposal today, in no particular stick fashion, becaususe i am not doing it outf a missionary spirit, because i believe taking a stand against is as important to the healing and well-being of this country as it is to the healing and well-being of people in south africa. in 1986, congress passed his comprehensive anti-apartheid act but president ronald reagan the road the bill. then in a historic move, the house and senate overrode the veto. it was the first override of a presidential foreign policy veto in the 20th century. four years later nelson mandela was released from prison in south africa and soon traveled to the united states. dellums introduced mandela at the oakland coliseum. >> we made history.

we went to make history, not to make headlines. we want nelson mandela and the people of south africa to know we will stand shoulder to shoulder, hip to hip, until apartheid is eradicated. sisters and brothers, it is fascinating, it is historic, symbolic this son of africa comes at this moment to remind us of the unfinished business of ending apartheid in south africa and racism in america. sexism in america. all forms of chauvinism in america. let us welcome this

extraordinary, beautiful south african man, one with the kurds to turn to his enemies and say forget the past, let us march to the future. let's negotiate a new south africa. let us welcome us beautiful black man with unwavering integrity, principal, unwavering courage, no fear. let us welcome a man that makes stronger,l taller, and a lot more proud. nelson mandela. amy: dellums wouldld oppose evey

major u.s. military intervention except a bill in 1992 to send troops to somalia. in 1990 he sued prpresident geoe h.w. bush over the persian gulf war. >> some of us belieieve in the context of the persian gulf war, it would be catastrophic. other members of congress come to a different conclusion. that is a political statement. those issues g get resolved on e floor of the united states congress. procedurally, the process granted to us under the constitution of the united states gives congress that authority. some people have said - -- d d't you believe this wawrinka meehan's the president? -- constitution is designed --'t you u believe this will

the president? the president? constitution is designed to do that. dellums retired from the house in 1998. he was seceded by one of his staffers. after serving in congress, he served one term as mayor of oakland in 2015. he spoke at a conference in washington, d.c. i had a chance to interview him in a hallway behind the stage at the conference. >> what were you proudest of in accomplishing? >> one of the things we did, and john kasich, he asked me -- why do you oppose the b-2 bomber?

i said you want to know? we can't afford it, we don't need it, and there are alternatives. he came back a few days later and said i would be honored to cosponsor a bipartisan basasis,n amendment to stop the b-2 bomber. , we didid something nobody had d done in modern history. we stopped a major weapon system on a bipartisan basis. ii thought that was a significat thing. dayr than that, winning the to see manandela free and see hm president of south africa and having played some

small role in extending the civil rights movement, the peace movement into challenging oppression in another country and helping that day come was a great honor. amy: how did you do that? what was the legislation you past? passed? meet and971, we would and we had assed significant agenda. someone said there is a militant group of black folks from new england who are demanding a meeting with the congressional black caucus. everybody looks, we have this ambitious agenda. they look at me, from the bay ,rea, dealing with radicals

they would say, send ron to the meeting. john conyers says, i would go with him. workersup of people, from new england, who worked for polaroid pictures were the pictures blacks had to present when challenged in south africa. they came because they were comfortable working with a business that was doing work in south africa. wanted it pledged that someone would work on legislation that would bring economic investment. i stood up and shook their hands and said i would be honored to be your instrument. having no idea that was going to a 16 year commitment, day in

and day out. by a strange set of circumstances, the house of ,epresentatives passed the deal which forced the republican-controlled senate to go further than they would have getting theended up republicans to agree to override reagan's veto. i have a right toto go conference because t the house passed my version of the bill. the republicans passed their version of a sanction bill. they called a meeting and said, we know you have the right to go to conference with the senate.

reagan said he is going to veto. if one word of this bill gets changed, we cannot guarantee we could override the veto. certain point, i said i respect everyone in this room, this is not about me. it is about south africa. , we fight toions change the bill, and reagan vetoeses it, the word d that wio around is the united states does not override the veto. that would set us back. respectfully step back. drew my bill and allow the republican bill to come to the house. they passed it. it was a sanctions bill. veto-proof.

i heard everyone in that room. i said it is not about me. it is about south africa. it wouldrd went out, far exceed the dimensions of the bill. it turns out, that was right. the word that went around, congress stands up against reagan's veto and it took on a significance of its own. guy, our progressive thought is, keep introducing -- the center is not a static place. for thesed on who comes fight. i kept bringing the bilill back. it finally became the instrument that passed the house on a record vote. a german journalist came to see

us when i was chair of armed services and told a story. --said research indicated called margaret thatcher and said what do you think i ought to duke -- what do you think i ought to do? passed on abill fluke and his past two years record vote. it is going to pass the senate and become law. he said -- what should i do? her response was free mandela and begin a process of negotiating a new south africa. the journalist said, tell your boss while your bill never hung over south africa like the sort of damocles. met nelsonou

mandela, can you describe the moment? >> he leaves south africa and it goes to zambia where they were meeting. 1990. .hat morning, i get up i am standing in line to meet nelson mandela. never did i think i would lay eyes on this man, let alone see him in person. i had gone all over the country, free mandela, free my people, free south africa. i get up and one of my colleagues from pennsylvania, he says mr. mandela, i would like you to meet congressman dellums. mandela did this hollywood double take. he has these big hands.

impression. he heard my name and he goes ronald dellums. we have heard much of you. you gave us hope. you kept us alive. he hugged me and i broke down and cried. my kids is said -- you actually .et mandela what did you think? i said i think i was in the presence of the most serene human being i have government in my life. he was an incredible person. whenever he would see me, he would say, my dear friend ronald. remember when he came to the united states on his thank you tour? everybody was

competing for his time. i leave thisbefore country, i am going to oakland ' constituencyms for their service and support. the bay area is the second most diverse area in the country. .andela walks out on the stage amy: where was this? >> the oakland coliseum. i am walking out. mandela is in m my hood. 55,000 people. he looks out and he sees this of humanity and he t turned to me and he said n, i better understand you. you represent the human family.

you represent where we must go. you represent the future of south africa. when he was saying, in that moment, he saw a young black man who represented the entire human family. just a my vision is not dream. it can be real. it brought us closer to each other. he said, you represent where we want to go. amy: what can congress do around the issue of police killings? what role can congress play? what about federally? nationally? talk about a model policy on the use of deadly force, exercise your citizenship, muscles, engage around a universal model policy on the

use of deadly force. if you are dealing with that, police unions are a local thing. at the federal level, we act as if we are reinventing the wheel. what is wrong? the same thing that was wrong 30 years ago. poverty, homelessness, hopelessness, neglect. start dealing with the problems that confront america. poverty is on the rise. we need to deal with that. i am one of the people that do not believe, that challenges the notion that conservatives have that the poverty program was a failure. it was brilliantly conceived.

it was being brilliantly implemented. poor people could direct millions of dollars for the first time in history. they actually started organizing. theere the young turks in community. when washington figures out they are financing revolution, they are going to end of this. organize people so when in dried up they could still organize. poor people had money, doctors, health providers. we were the generation, poor people in the community sent to college. they were the folks the south. we came back lawyers, teachers, architects. poverty came, we

were in the back room might -- in the back room writing new policies. killed the idea and we never were able to remount thehe idea because people did not fight hard enough to defend the idea the poverty program was brilliantly conceived and addressed a number of institutional problems that manifest themselves. we have to figure out how to get that energy out. my message to young people is stand up. fight back. first, i would deal with gender equity in the workplace.

make sure women make the same amount of money men make, you will strike a blow at poverty that would be so amazing. when you see all of these single family homes. number one, gender equity in terms of income. number two, we need to start the conversation about minimum wage. that is an antiquated concept. we ought to be talking about livable wage. when you confront conservatives on a livablege, -- wage, they do not respond. you don't want the government to subsidize helping folks. why don't you support my right to be able to take care of

myself by being able to have a livable wage? can't walk both sides of the street simultaneously. you cannot say you want me to do it on my own and you don't want to help me. you have to make a decision. stand up for my rights to have a little better wage and take care of my family. they don't know how to answer that question. amy: do you feel more powerful as a mayor, a congressman, a professor, and activist? >> i think the greatest, engaging with this generation of young people is awesome. i come home from those

engagements and i feel the passion, the blood is running warm. i am alive and young. generationngage this and helping them understand the lessons. martin luther king said longevity has its place. i would like to live a long life. for whatever reason, i have been blessed with long jeopardy. part of that is how do i convey those lessons learned? not by being a dinosaur of yesterday, but to use the lessons of yesterday to bring them forward. that is the fun part. being a mayor was an awesome, difficult job. chair of the armed services committee was the most incredible time of my life.

challengesgreatest of my life. you live with itntimately y on the ground day in and day out. there is no hiding. you have to have the resources. each and every one of them work challenges. i keep saying, what you going to do when you grow up. back to being go a social worker. speaking in the hallway at a presbyterian church in washington, d.c. we will hear his speech at the conference when we return. he died on monday of cancer at the age of 82. this is democracy now! back in a minute. ♪ [music break]

amy: this is democracy now! i am amy goodman. we remember ron dellums. he was the former mayor of

oakland. he went on to teach at howard university. he died monday at the age of 82 from cancer at his home in washington, d.c. we turn to a conference he attended in washington. he was introduduced by juan gonzalez. juan: he is a legend in thiss country.y. i want to remind you one thing you may have forgotten. one of his first acts when he was sworn in as a u.s. representative was to take a small room to his office in the house of representatives and mount an exhibition of the atrocities committed by the united states in vietnam.

he continues to stanford social justice, labor rights, environmental rights. he comes from the bay area, oakland, berkeley. virtually every movevement of te 1960's emerged in close proximity and simultaneously. unlike many other places, we work forced to feel each other's rage, to listen to malice and feel each other's passio.. incredible cauldron of activism, a unique group of people emerged. we have hear each other. e civil rits movemen the

brown berets, the black panthers. all of the various movements. 1966, a young guy by the name , a journalist who ran against a person i defeated four years later. back for meetings where we would hear this guy layout and analysis of why we should oppose the vietnam war. we used to say that is a bad dude. in 1967, something magical happened. brilliant, prophetic, artrticule

, he mounted the podium in 1967, laid out his reason for opposing the the and him war. he laid out his moral opposition. away from the pulpit, he was attacked -- when he stepped away from the pulpit, he was attacked, saying martin, stay in your lane. don't water down the movement. invite newng to enemies and attract on what we are doing. they attacked him the same way saying, martin luther king, stay in your lane. war and know about

peace? stay in your lane. martin luther king begins to crisscross the country to answer his critics. california,berkeley crowded with thousands of people. standing way in the back of 7000 -- of several thousand people, hanging onto every word. i would comment on the speeches he made going forward. he said why did i stand up? his response was, i cannot segregate my moral concern.

that said we must challenge all forms of injustice. segregate moral concerns. are two kinds of leaders. he said there is a second kind riskader who can attempting to shape a new consensus. mean wereted that to had carried the burden of racial, cultural and economic oppression, but we did not have to carry the burden of ignorance, that we had the obligation, the right and the responsibility to enter the arena and educate our people, to help them understand the

connectedness, the relationship between and among all issues of oppressision and injnjustice. [applause] of his lessons of education was a statemenent that was so vivid, so powerful. bombs inopping northern vietnam exploding in the ghettos and barrios of america. how poetic and powerful l the vision. he was sayg to people, understa the relioionshi betwn the biions of dollars thatrere bei spepento wagege war anththe inilility ddddress the injusticthatat itakinglacece in the ghettos andhearrios of ameri. the issue of priorities. very powerful. to me, the most powerful statement that shaped my life

comment.as this peace is more than the absence of war. it is the presence of justice. [applause] i interpreted that to mean the peace movement is the ultimate movement. peace is the superior idea the umbrella movement of all ,ovement, the peace movement because to come together under us tonner of peace boosts challenge all forms of injustice. consider this point. in criticism.t i make it as a matter we must reflect upon. i have come to this moment many times.

suppose everyone, because i believe the movement to end the war in vietnam became the largest and most powerful movement in the country. when the war in vietnam ended, many of the people went home and left us to fight racism, poverty, hunger, disease, hunger , helplessness. in my life,laments what would have happened in this country and in this world if people heard martin luther king and said -- now that we have ended the war in vietnam, let's get on with dealing with other forms of injustice. what would the world look like? [applause]

i tried to, on the floor of congress, to tweak that comement; could understand it. the absencee than of war. what would the international community look like. what would america look like? we still have cities like baltimore if we challenge on these issues? it is not too late. goave one minute, i may slightly over. young people have asked me, what is the difference between your generation when you were our age and our generation?

martin luther king told us to raise our voices in the name of peace and justice and equality and peace because it was the right thing, the moral thing, the ethical thing to do. this generation must do it because it is now the only thing today. -- the only thing to do. it has now become the imperative. what was principal for our generation is now imperative for this generation. the price of war is too high. the price of neglect of the issues that affect the human condition, we do it at our peril. we have a responsibility now to impress the imperative.

martin luther king never told us we couldn't do it. he said go out and change the world. i may not be with you at the end, but i have reached the mountaintop. we will achieve. we felt we could change the world. we went out to change the world. generation is being told 24 hours a day the system is broken, you cannot fix it. the system is bought and paid for, you cannot get it back. change people moved to the world when they are being fed a diet of cynicism, of superficial political analysis rooted in partisan politics or a ashaping of personalities if that individual can change the world by themselves without

the substance of policies that have to be addressed. we narrowed it down to parochial, shallow analysis. to say to this generation, out of a sense of urgency, you must emerge. i have lectured at howard university. what i have found out, not that the generation does not get it, they don't always hear it. when they do hear it, they get it because they listen carefully. last dollar,hat my i would that it on this generation of young people. if they ever stand up, they will change america and the world for their children and their children's children. ron former oakland mayor,

dellums speaking in 2015. he died on monday. that does it for our show. i am amy goodman. thank you for joinrçç?? óaócñóga

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