tv Democracy Now LINKTV October 24, 2018 8:00am-9:00am PDT
8:00 am
10/24/18 10/24/18 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from pacifica, this is democracy now! >> undersecretary kemp, more people have lost the right too vote in georgia. they have encouraged, suppressed, and scared. >> in this farce about voter suppression and people being held up from being on the roles of being able to vote is absolutely not true. amy: georgia secretary of state brian kemp and stacey abrams spar in their first gubernatorial debate in georgia amid growing accusations that kemp is overseeing widespread
8:01 am
voter r suppression in a an attt to prevent abrams from becominig the nation's first female african-american governor. newly leaked audio shows kemp telling republican donors that he was concerned over too many georgians with exercise their right to vote. we will speak to harvard professor leah wrighght rigueurr and investigative journalist greg palast. then to dodge city, kansas, where authorities have moved the city's only polling location to outside the city limits to an area not accessible by public transportation. the city is 60% latino. then who is b behind ice? we look at how amazon, mimicrosoft, palanantir, and otr big tech firms are profiti frometetenti and deptatition >>ntroduci amazon recognion videothe sy-to-usapi for ep learning-based analysis to track them attract -- pele. motn to visual and
8:02 am
dever high-quality person ackingndndetetecti off tiviviti likee rnining, ayining socceror getetng into a car. amy: as amazon pushes ice b buy s facial recognion software, to track immigrants, we will speak with jacinta gonzalez, an organizer with mijente. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. half the population of yemen could soon face famine. that is according to the united nations aid chief who says the unfolding humanitarian catastrophe is "much bigger than anything any professional in this field has seen during their working lives." the number of yemenis facing famine has been updated to 14 million based on recent analysis. >> beyond the sheer numbers, while millions of people have been surviving on emergency food assistance for years, the help
8:03 am
they get is enough merely to survive, not to thrive. the toll is unbearably high. the immune system by millions of people on survival support for years on end are now literally collapsing, making them, especially children and the elderly, more likely to succumb to malnutrition, cholera, and other diseases. amy: the ongoing u.s.-backed, saudi-led bombing campaign in yemen has come under renewed scrutiny in the wake of the saudi murder of journalist jamal khashoggi. german chancellor angela merkel has said she will halt a arms exports toto the sau kiningdomut other leaders have yet to follow . amnesty international france has urged french president emanuel macron to halt arms sales to the saudis while prime minister justin trudeau faces similar pressure in canada. trudeau said he is unlikely to cacancel a 2014 deal with the saudis for the sale of armored vehicles. president trumpmp has said d hel not hold weapons s also saudi arabia. president trump p spoke out
8:04 am
tuesday on journalist jamal khashoggi's murder, callining ia "worst cover up ever." pres. trump: they had a bad original concept. it was carried out poorly. in the cover up was one of the worst in the history of coverups. very simple. bad deal. should never have been thought up. somebody really messed up. amy: on tuesday, secretary of state mike pompeo announced the u.s. will revoke the visas of saudi operatives accused of participating in khashoggi's killing. pompeo went on to reaffirm the u.s. shared strategic interests with saudi arabia, echoing trump's statements about saudi arabia as a strongng ally to the united states. meanwhile, turkish investigators have reportedly found several suitcases, a laptop, and clothing that may be linked to the murder in a car belonging to the saudi consulate. on tuesday, sky news reported parts of khashoggi's dismembered body were found in the garden of the saudi consul general's
8:05 am
istanbul home, thohough the reportrts remain uncnconfirmed.. this comes as a reuters report into saud al-qahtani, a top aide for mohamed bin salman, claims he directed khashoggi's killing remotely via skype, instructing those in carrying out khashoggi's interrogation and murder to "bring me the head of the dog." meanwhile, in riyadh, the saudi royal family met with jamal khashoggi's family, including his son, releasing photos of the highly publicized event to the press. salah khashoggi appeared visibly strained as he shook the crown prince's hand. jamal khashoggi's children are bannnned from leaving sasaudi arabia. elsewhere in riyadh, crown princece mohammed bin salman received a standing ovation tuesday as he made a surprise appepearance at the opening ofoa saudi investors forum dubbed "davos in the desert." the crown prince is due to make his first public remarks since khashoggi's death at the conference today. as the summit got underway, officials said the state-owned
8:06 am
oil company saudi aramco had signed 15 agreements with foreign investors, including six with u.s. companies, worth $34 billion. an unnamed financial services executive from the east coast of the u.s. who attended the conference told "the washington post" -- "it's unfortunate, obviously, and we hope the regime will listen and change. but they do things their own way here." in russia, u.s. national security advisor john bolton saiaid tuesday ththe trump administration is holding firm to its plan to withdhdraw the u. from the 1 1987 intetermediate-e nucleaear forces trereaty, or te inf. bolton made the remarks after meeting in moscow with russian president vladimir putin. formal terms of filing the notice of withdrawal, that has not been filed. it will be filed in due course. amy: bolton's remarks came a day after president trump said he hopes to expand the nuclear arsenal. the u.s. already has an estimated 6800 nuclear warheads. in election news, the controversy over voter
8:07 am
suppression in georgia took center stage tuesday as audio of georgia secretary of state and republican gubernatorial candidate brian kemp was leaked just hours before his debate with democratic opponent stacey abrams, who hopes to become the first african-american woman governor in the country. in the recording taken at a campaign event last week and published by "rolling stone," kemp expressed concern over georgians exercising their right to vote, particularly in early and absentee voting. >> as worried as w we going in t the srt o of rly ving, literall tens of mlions of dollars they are ptiting behind thget out the vote effort to their ba.. a lot of that thth absteee ballototrequests. they had and am president numb ofhat, which is something atat ntinueueto concern us, -- the unprecented number of that, which is somethi that contntins toto ccern u us. amy: at tuesday's debate, brian kemp accused stacey abrams of
8:08 am
encouraging undocumented people to vote illegally. abrams responded kemp has used georgia's strict exact match voter id law to put thousands of voter applications on hold. >> undersecretary kekemp, more people a arrived -- lost the rit to vote. they have been purged, suppressed, and they havave been scared. this is a man who had someonone arrested for helelping her blind father cast a llotot. the offices of organizatitions to stop the frfm registering voteters. ththat type of vot s suppressisn feeds the narratative. voter r suppression isn't ononly about blocking the e vote, itits also about c creating an atmospre o of fear, making people worried their votes won't count. amy: we'll have more on georgia and the upcoming midterm elections later in the broadcast. in iraq, a car bomb blast near a market in a northern town near mosul killed at least six people and wounded 30 others. no group has claimed responsibility, but iraqi forces
8:09 am
claimemed that isis was behind e attack. in france, police removed close to 2000 refugegees out of the grandede-santt camamp in thehe northern city of dunkirk. the camp has become a central hub for migrants attempting to reach the u.u.k. after the neary calais refugee camp, known as "the jungle," was demolished in 2016. grande-santt was built as a joint effort between the mayor of grand-santt and doctors without borders, butut it hass become a political flashpoint in france and authorities have attempted to evacuate the camp several times already this year. president trump lashed out again tuesday at the central american migrant caravan making its way across mexico toward the u.s. border, claiming middle eastern terrorists had infiltrated the group. pressed by a reporter, trump admitted he had no proof to back his claim. pres. trump: they say it happens all the time from the middle east. it is not saying bad or good, but it's little bad ones. but the intercept -- >> [indiscernible]
8:10 am
pres. trump: could very well be. >> but there's no proof? pres. trump: there is no proof of anything, but they very well could be. amy: vice president mike pence claimed honduran president juan orlando hernandez had spoken him about the caravan. >> he told me the caravan now making its way through mexico heading for the southern border leftistnized by organizations and financed by venezuela. amy: later in the broadcast, we will go to phoenix, arizona, to speak with immigrant rights organizer jacinta gonzalez about a shocking new report detailing how companies like amazon, palantir, and microsoft are profiting from and expediting trump's deportation operations. president trump falsely accused puerto rico of using hurricane relief funds to pay off debts tweeting -- "the u.s. will not bail out long outstanding & unpaid obligations with hurricane relief money!" the tweet came as the federally appointed financial l oversighgt board approved a revised fiscal reform plan which calls for a reduction in government spending
8:11 am
and is projecting that over $80 billion in anticipated federal disaster funds will help rebuild the puerto rican economy. in fact, elected officials in puerto rico have not however advocated using relief funds to pay off debt. governor ricardo rossello opposed the newly unveiled plan, saying -- "money will be available to bondholders, but to the detriment of the most vulnerable and our people. this is simply unfair." at a houston, texas, campaign rally for republican senator ted cruz monday evening, president trump declared that he is a nationalist. pres. trump: a globalist is a person that once the globe to do well, frankly, not carrying about our country so much. you know what? we can't have that. they have a word. is sort of became old-fashioned. it is a nationalist. i say, we're not supposed to use that word. you know what i am? i am a nationalist. amy: trump's comments monday
8:12 am
align with his populist america first rhetoric though the label of nationalist is more often associated with extreme right-wing ideology and fascist regimes. questioned by reporters on tuesday, trump denied that the term nationalist was used to describe racist movements, saying he was proud to use it and that it "should be brought back." the wife of white supremacist leader richard spencer has accused him of regularly physically and emotionally abusing her during their marriage, according to divorce filings. nina kouprianova alleges "being hit, being grabbed, being dragged around by her hair, being held down in a manner causing bruising, and being prevented from calling for help." additionally, the filings claim that spencer's racist public statements have made his family, including his two young children, the targets of violence. spencer, who is credited with coining the term "alt-right," has attracted violence following many of his speeches and was a featured speaker at the deadly unite the right rally in charlottesville in 2017.
8:13 am
in new york city, five of the nine members of the far-right group proud boys have been arrested on rioting and assault charges. the arrests follow the october 12 street attack in which dozens of members of the group were caught on camera physically assaulting anti-fascist protesters after attending a talk by leader gavin mcinnes at the nearby metropolitan republican club. the new york police department west -- was sharply criticized following the attack for failing to arrest anyone at the time. in brazil, right-wing presidential frontrunner jair bolsonaro is leading handily in the polls ahead of this weekend's election, as civil society groups are warning against a dangerous turn toward authoritarian rule. reporters without borders is warning against ongoing attacks on press freededom, cluding threats against reporter patricia campos mello, who wrote the widely circulated story claiming pro-bolsonaro business leaders are funding an online smear campaign against his opponent fernando haddad. meanwhile, video of jair bolsonaro's son n eduardo bolsonaro, threatening to shut
8:14 am
down the supreme court if his father doesn't win the upcoming elections. and former brazilian political prisoners are calling out bolsonaro's frequent praise for brazil's former military dictatorship and his defenense f notorious s torturure chief cars alberto brilhante ustra, who died without ever being tried for his crimes. this is former political prisoner gilberto natalini. >> so i think whoever defends ustra, bolsonaro himself, bolsonaro knows who ustra was. a tendency that in my opinion borders on savavagery when hee defends torture. whover, a lot of brazilians are vovoting for him because ofa reaction against the workers party. so we're stuck between something bad and something worse. amy: and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. juan: and i'm juan gonzalez.
8:15 am
with the midterm elections less than two weeks away, we begin today's show looking at the governor's race i in georgia w e democrat stacey abrams is attempting to become the first black woman governor in the country. polls show abrams and her opponent georgia secretary of state brian kemp are in a dead heat. but the race has been roiled with accusations that kemp has used his power as secretary of state to suppress the vote. earlier this month, abrams called kemp to step down as secrcretary of state for placing 53,000 voter applications on hold. seven out of 10 of the stalled applications are for african american voters in a state where less than one third of the population is black. voting rights activists have also sued kemp for purging voters from the rolls. amy: on tuesday, "rolling stone" published an audio recording of kemp privately telling republican d donors that he e ws concerned about too many georgians exercising their right
8:16 am
to vote. listenarareful. >> they have aunprecedted numberwhicich somethi thahat ntinues to concern us, especilyly if everybody us and exercisetheir rit to vote and males those ballots in. we have to have a bigger turnout to offset that. juan: georgia gubernatorial candidate brian kemp speaking last friday at an event in atlanta for republican donors. audio of his remarks were leaked to "rolling stone." well, on tuesday, night george dutch back, brian kemp and stacey abrams faced off in their first debate. >> this farce about voter suppression of people being held up and not ablble to votete is
8:17 am
solutely n not true. anyonene who meets the requirements that is on the pending list come all the have to do is do the same thing that you and i at home have to do, go to your polling location, show your government id, and you can vote. but 75% of those individuals missed the sosa security -- > i'm sorry to inteterrupt.t. yoyou are? out of time. wowould you like to o respond? >> the right to vote is a right. i grew up in a family that fought for the right to o vote before they were old enough to do so. my father was arrested helping people register so i take the right to vote seriously. i only believe those who have the legal eligibility to vote should cast a baballot. under undnderstand secretary kim, m more people hae lost thehe right to vote in the state of georgia. they have been purged. they have been suppressed. they have been scared. this is a man w who had woman arrested for helping her blind father to vote. supuppressionoter
8:18 am
feeds the e narrativee because vovoter supuppression isn't onoy about blolocking the vote, it is also about creating an atmosphere of fear, making people worried their votes won't count. i will work with the secretary of state to ensure there is no question the right to vote in georgia is not a privilege, it is a right that belongs to those who are georgia citizens. i will work hard to make it so. amy: that was georgia candidate stacey abrams debating brian kemp. to talk more about what's at stake in the race, we're joined by leah wright rigueur, a professor at the kennedy school of government, author of "the loneliness of the black republican: pragmatic politics and the pursuit of power." you saw the debate last night, professor. can you talk about what was raised? start with this issue of voter suppression, the accusation that brian kemp is holding onto 53,000 voter registration forms and also that leaked audio recording questioning georgians right to vote.
8:19 am
stacey abrams versus brian kemp has become a touchstone for the entire c country for issuesf voter rights. thinking abobout, what is voting mean? who o has the right to vote? --er suppression, queuestions alleged questionons of voter fraud. we saw that playay out on the debate stage last night wherere you had brian kemp saying, the ideaea of voter suppressioion ia farcrce versus stacey abrams who isy clearly s said, no, v votig a right. it is a constitutional right, protected right, and this election is all about ensuring the rights of people to ensure -- existsts asis opposed to just imimagine. that was at ththe heart of the debate last night. it reaeally playayed out as thee two contenders took polarizing and opposite opinions on a very
8:20 am
.ontentious issue juan: i want to ask about "the rolling stone" audio of kemp talking g to donors about his concern about too many peoeople voting? >> absolutely. this is not a nenew concern. a very longans, for time, have had very y open conversations in other cases very private cononrsations,, the concern about turnout. why is that? the higher turnout, particularly among young people and groups of color, tends to favor democratic candidates. in this casese, stacey abrams hs taken the concern about turnout. why is that? what should not be a novel approach but is a novel approach, by going out and pounding the pavemenent and goig after unlikely voters, voters who have not voted before, young people, people of color, getting them to try to turn out at high numbers.
8:21 am
if you are brian kememp, that is someththing that you absolutely don't want. in his private remarks, this is esessentially what he said will stop which is, we don't want these people voting. we have to think about what hourly -- what are the alternatives and happily get them to knock him out, even know that is the legal and constitutional right? amy: we will go to break but we will come back to this conversation. we will also bring in palantir who is suing -- we will bring in camp.alast who is suing we will talk about the video stacey abrams, decades ago, participating in a flagburning of the confederate flag of georgia at the time that led to the flag being replaced, gotten rid of. this is democracy now! stay with us.
8:23 am
amy: this is democracy now!, democracacynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. as we continue to look at voter suppression in georgia, a new investigation has found the georgia secretary of state and republican gubernatorial candidate brian kemp has overseen the removal of more 340,000 current georgia residents from voting rolls. in a moment, we will be joined by journalist greg palast. first, i want to turn part of a new video he produced about the voter pue e in grgiaia. >> h h did kempipe out e restrationof 550,0 vots? used to post card trick kemp sent that millionof t the cacas, requiring vots s to confirm addresses. the probm?m? they look like junk mail. eight out of 10 people towow em a awa ththw away the card and kemp can
8:24 am
throw you ofththe ros. th trick? not everyone ge oppose card. mostly, they go to neiboborhoo li this.s. >> this is my neighborod. anththis is where i almo g got rgrged. >> scey hopkins is aommunity orgazer. >> this is a community thaisis pidldly changing. it impacts us as a voting communit withllll of esee empty houses, ouour vote is being lost. ouour poticacal power is thing lolost. > wn kempmp sent her a postcardhehe picd wrong target. > telling me that if we did t fill out these for a and rurnn them, , were gog to be moved to the inactive list. ite had ju voted. i deced to trand hd mr. kemp accountable for that because wantedo know why he did nowawant mto v vot weweiled suit against secretary ofof sta kememp. >> a a she won -- bigtime. to159 thousand were rtotored
8:25 am
the votingololls. ththatas a g gd feeling. hanwhafeels bais more lf a milon voterremain o the purge list. h had tthrereat him wita fedel l lawst but he finally gavep p the mes s ofvery v ver he purged. thene e madell o of e names public. wawas floodeditith 19 enoug fromeoeorgia stutunn they lost thright tvote. amy:y:nvestigative journalist gregalast a atttion to estion ban kemp about the purge. >> mr. kemp, are you removgg ack k vors frorothe voting rolls so y c can wn this election? why are you purging teters? why aren't you swswerinmy qutionons? sir, what see you t get the name of vorsrs whoave e be removed? is there any other reporter being thrown out of here? amy: that is greg palast questioning brian kemp, secretary state.
8:26 am
greg palast is a journalist who's been investigating brian kemp and voter suppression in georgia. director of the 2016 documentary titled "the best democracy money can buy." your suing kemp as well. explain what you found and why you're suing him. >> he would not answer my question so he will have to answer them in court. -- i sayay "we" including civil rights organizations, to find out why he has removed 340,000 one at 34 -- three and 40,000 to 134 georgians. .hey are still in their home they have not left. you're talking one third of a million people. if these peopople show up to voe on novovember 6, they're going o find they can't vote. the provisional ballot won't count. violentlys are
8:27 am
racially prejudiced. we're going into court to getet why he did this. we know it is wrong. or my other investigation, i was able to get inside his operation and get some of the purge list -- it is quite an of we operation.n. i have not seen a purge operation ththis wide and big. one thing stacey abrams was mentioning during the debate, it is not just the 53,000 names pending, it is the 340,000 people purged, the regisistratis have been canceled, that is why we are in court with the voting rights groups to get the information on exactly why these people were wrongly removed. juan: greg, you are a veteran of this issue of voter suppression in various national elections. i think back to katherine harris in florida during the infamous florida recount vote in the purging of supposed felons from the florida voting lists.
8:28 am
ohio, 2004ckwell, election. we heard about kris kobach in kansas and now kemp in georgia. positionetary of state rarely gets a lot ofof attenent. but when i it comes to elecectin time, it is s a key position, isn't t it? that is one thing that is not very well understood. it is very dangerousus for brian kemp to be in chcharge of the ve while running for governor. kris kobach, for example, another story coming up, moving polling stations where voters of color cannot get to them. kemp is doing the same thing. ps closed stations and neighborhoods of color. he has closed stations in neighborhoods of color. people find out they haven't purged. and itll out the ballot will be up to brian kemp on
8:29 am
whether they will be counted. you heard abouout the massive amounts of absentee ballots. he is going to be able to decide which of those gay counted. people don't realize you maililn your ballot and thereafter decide your r signature is correct. has implemented a rule called exact match. this is very serious too let the secretary of state, the ballot counter, the guy who determines who gets to vote, which ballots be counted, were the vote takes place, how it takes place -- secretary of state kemp is not following the normal procedures that a secretary of state should resign while running for governor. amy: let's go back to tuesday night's gubernatorial debate in georgia. this is the republican candidate brian kemp questionini democratic candidate stacey abrams. >> in a recent video, you called on illegalss to vote for you in
8:30 am
this election. i was shocked. i had to watch the video twice. it clearly shows you were asking for undocumented and documented folks s to be part of your winng strategy. so my question is, why are you encouraging people to break the law for you in this election? >> mr. kemp, you're very aware i know the laws of georgia when it comes to voting. in fact, i want of the foremost experts on expansion of voting rights. i have never in my life ask for anyone who was that legally eligible to vote to be a look cast a ballot. i have asked you to let those who are legally eligible to vote, to allow them to cast a ballot. we took you to court in 2016 and the federal judge said you illegally canceled 34,000 registrations. you used the exact same match system that is under dispute right now. i realize in the next response you're going to say, i it is a function of my organization because your tendency iso blame everyonene else for your mistakes..
8:31 am
my responsibility as a leader is to see a problem and try to solve it. when i saw we had 800,000 people unregistered to vote, i statartd anan organization to increasasee regigistrations. when i saw people were being unlawfully denied the right to vote, i worked to makake sure we held accountable.. as the n next governor of georg, i will make certain that every legally eligible vote that gets cast gets counted. amy: we're going to return to leah wright rigueur on this answer. author,ght rigueur, kennedy school of government. cacan you respondnd to the accusation and w what stacey abrams said? >> i think stacey abrams is laying outut her pathway to the governor's office and a victory, but t she is doing it in such a weight to remind everyonone shes interested in a legal pathway but also interested in expanding ththe rights and the coconstitutionality and the rigt , andte e for all georgiansns
8:32 am
ensuring the have the riright to vote.. so for a long time, youou know, and not just georgia, there has been this idea that everyone should have the right to vote. but it has coexisted d with the idea thahat not everyryone shoud have the right to vote. in fact, we've s seen a restrictioion of rights, the rit to vote for certain groups of people. resespondingdirectly the thatat saying, this has bebn my ground game, my life's work, to ensnsure that everyone whwhoa legal l citizen n has the righto vote and the right to exercise that vote as opposed to constraining it. so clearly pointing outt thatt, rebubutting this idea a that shs on tape e encouraging undocumend people to vovote, but ininstead sasaying this is abobout ensurig that citizens have their right to vote and are able t to exerce that right, as opposed to being surprised or losing those rights. juan: during tuesday's debate,
8:33 am
stacey abrams was also asked about a 1992 protest she took part in when she was photographed burning the georgia state flag. >> 26 years ago as a college freshman, i along with many other georgians, quitting the governor, were deeply disturbed by the racial divisiveness embedded in the state flag with that confederate symbol. i took an action of peaceful protest. i said that was wrong. 10 years later, my opponent brian kemp voted to remove that symbol. juan: leah wright rigueur, your reaction to this issue being raised in the waning days of this election? and close and tight contested election. this is a monumental electionn also alalack womanan received te nomination for gubernatorial bid, which is a first. it is a touchstone for the rest
8:34 am
of the nation in terms of issues politics,ratic progressive politics, black women in politics. so in the closing days of the election, of course, all of the so-called controversies are going to erupt. for the abrams campaigign, theyn sosome ways anticipated this. what stacecey abrams did in 1992 was in no way illegal. it is her constititutional righ, as thehey did an exercise of fre byech but also supported several supreme court rulings. but also at the time,e, we're nt talking about the georgia state flag, but the segregationist version of the georgia state flag -- which the then governor of georgia was trying to get rid of and later kemp would also push to get rid of. so this s is a non-controversy. the abrams cap has done quite a good job as this has erupted of saying, no, this is not what it seems. in fact, this was about makingg
8:35 am
georgia more democratic, more fair, and less racist for citizens of the entire state. amy: in fact, stacey abrams has probably set in her response that she stands by what she did. she does not consider this an expose, ththat that action helpd lead to the removal of that version of ththe georgia flag tt was largegely the confederate flag. >> absolutely. if this is the biggest controversy that abrams is facing, then, i mean, whwhat do you have? this woman is squeakaky clean.n. she isis fighting for the rights for r democratic rights, for the expansnsion of enfranchisement r legal citizens. so t the idea she would be burng a flag, o oh, shocker. but it turns out the flag she was burnrning was an unjnjust f,
8:36 am
a segregationist flag, that generally the political class in georgia was united aroround gettining rid of. again, this is a nonstarter, but it i is emerging at a point in time as one of the sayings that is designed to disrupt and really rile antagonism against stacey abrams and perhaps encourage turnout from kempmp's face as a way y of holdiding bak stacey abrams in a really contentious fight. to a largero picture right now, which is what president trump has said in the last few days and doubled down yesterday. at a rally in houston, he officially declared himself a nationalist, tagging himself with a label that has long been aligned with nokia's him and white nationalism. -- withnaziism and what
8:37 am
nationalism. pres. trump: a globalist is a person and once the globe to do well, frankly, not caring about our country so much. and you know what? we can have that. there have a word that sort of became old-fashioned, called a national list. i say, really, we're not supposed to use that word. you know what i am? a nationalist. i am a nationalist. amy: that w was trump on monday night. then he doubled down on the nationalist label when speaking to the press at the white house. >> there is a concern you are sending coded language or a dog whistle to some americans out there that what you really mean is you are a white nationalist. pres. trump: i cannot imagine that. i am a nationalist. i never heard that theory.y. i've heard them all. i am somebody who loves our country. amy: "i am 70 who loves our country."
8:38 am
,rofessor leah wright rigueur can you respond what president trump has s said, labeling hihif a proud nationalist?? >> it is an interesesting choice en he e could have used the word "patriot." it is not the first time he has done it.t. in t the 2016 campaign, he labed himselelf a nationalalist. steve bannon was behind this. also in embrace of steve bannon''s idea of nationonalism. regardless of he may say this is not ethnic nationalism, , white nationalism, it is sending a very distincnct message and drawing a very distitinct messae at a p point in time where nationalalism is on the rise in the country, but so is violence around nationalism, ethnic nationalism, white nationalism. so in a way, this is drawn back which wasrategy, quite effective for him, which is a rallying cry to all of
8:39 am
these people around the country, this base, that put them in office, that elected him at a time when in the midterms where he is really pushing a cultural , because there's so much else to go on. it has worked for him in the past. it is a calling card. here he is reviving it. the other interesting point, he is doing so at a time when steve bannon is no longer officially associated with t the white hou, with the t trump admdministrati. ties does tell y you those are still there, but so is the ideology that is pulling through. it is s a message to o e base, i am here for you, i stand foror you, i supportrt your agenda. it is also a warning for those alienatinga way of other people as outsiders. it is donald trump's way of saying, "i am president of these people, but not." those people."
8:40 am
." targetedew w gillum was by a racist robocall paid for by a white supremacist group. gillum is aiming to be florida's first black governor. this is a clip of the robocall. a warning, it is extremely racist. >> hello there. i be the mayor of tallahassee. amy: this is gubernatorial candidate andrew gillum responding to the racist robocalls in an ininterview with cnn. >> i want toto make sure we do't racial lies, anand frankly, weaponize race as a part of this process, which is why i called on my opponent to really work to rise above some of these things. people are taking their cues from him, from his campaign, and from donald trump. anand we saw in chcharlottesvile that can lead to real, frankly, dangerous outcomes. amy: leah wright rigueur, your final comment on the climate right now? >> these are races that are , incative of f a muchh broader
8:41 am
some w ways, m much more dangers tomate that really ties back the trump administration and the emergence of -- really, the emergence of a much broader identitity that isis tied to nationalism, and r racializezed nationalism. thatve a set of candidates are running against people that have wholly tied themselelves to donald trump, proudly tied himself to donald trump and his agenda. what we are up for is a showdown between does the trurump effecet still stand, this one way of approachingg politics, this exclclusionary way o o approachg nationalal politics, and lococad state politics, o ois there another way? is there a way that is b built n allianceces and coalitition thas inclusive and is about expanding the boundaries of democracy so that all american citizens count?
8:42 am
amy: we want to thank you for being with us, leah wright ririgueur professor at the kenny , school of government at harvard university. she is the author of "the loneliness of the black republican: pragmatic politics and the pursuit of power." greg palast is a journalist is a reporter who has been investigating brian kemp and voter suppression in georgia. when we come back, what is happening in dodge -- that is dodge, kansas -- and how are u.s. corporations profiting from ice? stay with us. ♪ [music break]
8:43 am
8:44 am
dodge city, kansas, is nearly 60% hispanic. the associated press reports hispanic turnout in the county where dodge city is located was 17%, compared to 61% turnout for white voters in 2014. amy: the aclu reports dodge's loan polling site services more than 13,00000 voters, compared o forverage of 1200 voters polling site in other locations. we're joined now by johnny dunlap with the kansas dedemocratic party. he is joining us f from dodge city. welcome to demococracy now! tellll us what happenened. >> this is really one morere thg in a largeger, lononger problem. 2002, the countnty clerk went down to just one polling placace for dodgdge cit, kakansas. it has been that way since. ththat one polling plalace was n the more affluent white part of town.
8:45 am
dodge city's pretty clearly divided between the white northern part of town and hispanic southern part of town. so t this move of the polling locatition was really just t tag anan already badad sittition a makiking it worse. it moved the p pling locatation outside of townn so it is convenenient for no one. whenen you combine thahat with histstoric turnonout of 17% for hispanic populatation, 5151% foe whwhite population, and then you ,ook at our electedd officials every y seat w we have mix x fr ththe countyty commission at-la, so our city commission school board, community college board of t trustees - -- everyone onef those ofoffices are currently hd by a white persoson, even n thoh the town is 60% hispanic. this movove is, like a set, onee
8:46 am
ongoingng in an problem. juan: johnny dunlap, most people are not aware that a place, an iconic place like dodge city, famed in the westward movement of amemericans,, is -- has s sea highgh latino populatition, butt is that the only place in the midwest. throughout iowa and kansas and nebraska, there is been a huge surge in the last 20 years or so of the tuna populatitions, mosty as the result of the importation ofofexican labor f for thehe meatpapacking industry. could you talk about thahat? specifically,y, that influx began in the late 1970's, early 1980's. there are no two l large beeff packcking plants in dodge city.
8:47 am
it is onone of t the cornerstonf our economomy arouound here.e. those beef packing plants historically have recruited to o comem pointsts south here and live and work. so what we have noww is s second and third d generation amemerics who o have only ever voted at oe polling place, and don't know it could be better. juan: what is the reason the city clerk gives -- forget about the fact the loan polling place is already overburdened, but then moving it outside of the city limits to a plplace where u can't en g get therere by public transporortation?? >> it is thehe county clclerk. late may,th her in mayay, toto ask herer to increasee the number of polling places. this is not the first time i have metet with our county clerk anand her predecessor. i met with h him several timeseo
8:48 am
convince thehem to have moree polling g places.. the e excuses she givives don'td water. one is shehe says,s, it wouldd increase cososts that more poloi plplaces and it isn't in h her bubudget. the e thing is, she writetes hen budgdget. so if something is not i in her budget, it is because shehe did nopuput it in n her budget. she compmplains about the e numr has.tining machines that she the thing is, she has enough mamachines to cover the polling place with ththe 13,000 voter burden, and you could t take soe ofof those m machines and splilm out to otherer siteses and you d still have enough machines. amy:y: d doesn't haveve anythino with who the secretary of state's, kris kobach? now he is running for governor, the man who led the now defunct disgraced so-called voter .ntegrity cocommission f for trp now even in the trump administstration, ththey had t t
8:49 am
rid d of it. now w kris kach runnnning forr governor against demococt laura kelly. >> s so the thing is, the secretary ofof statate has the r to stotop something like this ad approves it. for thee last t eight years, krs kobach has signed off on one polling place in dodge cityty, kansas.. this is s art of a larger narrative for him.m. he passed or w we passed in kans bills t that he championed and wrote that have sincnce been declclared unconstitutioional because they y disenfranchise voters. on the ground in dodge city, i t has dede things s difficult. we have attetempted to have votg drives -- i'm sorry, foror a registration drives in dodge city. his kris s kobach, before voter id law, which requiredd citizens to prove their burden --p, or reremoving the burden of proof
8:50 am
from the government to the citizen, so folks registered to vote andnd then they wouould hao go to the coty c clerk andnd present t their birth ctitificae or some sortrt of proof citizenship. footerppened in thehese registratition drives, folksksod start filling out the forms a ad take thisuld sasay, ok, to thehe county clk alalong with your birthth certificate and thn you will be gigister t to vote. ththey would be in shock and angry. some of them e even tore up ther voter registratition card and said, forget about it, this is too much. city, partin dododge of a a larger problem,m, where e republicican partyf kansns has takeken a loof s steps to make voting m more difficucult, to pt obstacles in the way people reregistering, peoplple gettingo
8:51 am
the popolls. it is a biggerer problem post up amy: johnny dunlap, thank you for being with us chair of the , ford county, kansas democratic party. juan: we look at a shocking new report titled "who's behind ice? the tech and data companies fueling deportations." report detailsow corporations like azon, palair, d microsoft are profiteeng from expert es anpresiden tmp' incaeration d deportation opations. currently about 10% of the departntnt of meland cucurit's 4 billlln budget is dedicateto data manageme.. the report is being blished as a cument obtained by the projt onon gernmentveversig showhat azon is puing the u.s. iigrationnd custo forcemen to start using its controversial facialecogniti technology tt could identify immigrants in re time by scanni fesn the vio
8:52 am
fe. am for mor we go tphoenix, arona, whe we' joined jacia gonzal, an orgizer with organizing, which cowrote the who's behind ice." >> we found in this report is understanding the tech industry, silicon valley, is changing the way we see immigration and customs enforcement on the ground. we have seen the capabilities to be able to put new sources of data, includuding private sourcs like a nickel bills, different records from m different companies, even your phone bill for example is getting into these records. that is how immigration is able to conduct their raids and go door-to-door terrorizing communities and impacting families every day that are devastated by their separation. what was revealed in the report is there are th h industriries, privive compmpanies helplping ce these e programs f for ice b buo
8:53 am
other techch companies like aman are expanding their b budget by basicalllly being able to offer cloud services to the government. juan: could you talk about the disproportionate impact that amazon now has on cloud services for govevernment agencies? amazon and many other tech company's "be the government to say you should have cloud services to be up to digitize all of yourur files. ththey basicallyly insured verey lucrative contract to build a store information for the government having have authorizations, the way of being able to say you are able to hold information for the government. amazon has 204 authorizations compared to other companies like google that have less than 30. we really see a azon has bebeen momonopolizing this industry and making sure ththey're profiting tremendously off of both war and the war on immigrants at home.
8:54 am
amy: talk more about the individual companies that you found and who is funding ice, who is backing up, who is profiting from the deportation system that is going on now. >> one of the primary companies we i identify with was a compmpy named palantir. palantir was literally founded by money invested from the cia and peter seale who many of us know is a strong supporter of mr. trump, to create this, a that would be able to do data processing, data mining, involved in multiple international scandals including cambridge analytica, creating that iceone of ice uses to track immigrants, surveilled them, and organize their deportation. ist we're seeing is palantir able to develop this technology to attack immigrants, you somehow when they separate children from their parents at the border, they lose track of
8:55 am
them and are not able to find out where they are. we are able to see through these technologies, what their prioritizing, but -- what they ire prioritizing, but ther agenda. juan: the pushback that many of these tech companies have gotten from their own employees who do not feel comfortable with their company's taking such a huge role in things like ice and other government storage of projects. could you talk about that as well and how amazon is distinct, even in this area? >> i think one of the things that has been exciting as even though we see companies, and make millions of dollars, billions of dollars off of immigration custom enforcement, we also see workers within these companies with a conscience saying, we are not ok with this. we are organizing against our employers and we have a right to speak about what we are helping to build. so we've seen exciting movements
8:56 am
within corporations that are having workers sign petitions, talk to their ceos, talk to people who have the power to make these decisions. we have seen it inside companies like salalesforcrce and amazonod heard rumors of it happening even within palantir. we want to encourage workers who are trying to organize, trying to have somome sort of voice in this because we know these are not times to be neutral. we are very clear on what the trump agenda is, jeff f sessio's agenda. they want to attack, incarcerate, deport. it is up to us to decicide what our respononse is going to be. we want to make sure people are not being compliant inside the companies are helping set of these infrastructures and not compliant with the racist enforcement regime being imposed. we have ways of changing that. amy: can you talk about the sharing of biometric information with the mexican government, these corporations doing that, jacinta? arehere many companies that
8:57 am
developing technology and have contracts in mexico to be sharing data. we see it on some levevels insie e e mexican n institute of immigratation sharingnformation, but we see even more concerning cocontras wewerehere trying to share infoatation coming fr voter cords in mexico, voter id cards- being le to she that informaon. we see it through militarization programs the u.s. has been imposing and mexico, invnvesting millions and billions of dollars into the development technologoy to be ablele to track central migrants. that is what is leading the crisis we have now. it's that of investing in things that will allow governments t to be able to provide for the community's, for people to live dignified lives in the home countries, we see the e u.s. intervrvening and politics, investing in militarization, which creates more instability and forcing people to migrate. "an: i want to ask you about
8:58 am
new york times" story published recently in light of what has been going on in terms of the assassination of a journalist by the saudi government. this whole issue of saudi arabia investing heavily in silicon valley through the j japanese company softbank? now with ane seeing ever is with corporations in silicon vavalley and other placs inhe world a and messing more power, more money, more information than anyone else had. at this point literally knowows what your favorite tytyf blender isisnd is holdlding your enentire police file. up have more accountability from these corporations. we need to be able to ensure they are based acting basic huhuman right. ifif the government isn't willig to step up to do it, we know workers inside are able to organize in the general public is able to push back on them. we know more and more corporations are starting to interview the test influence --
8:59 am
120 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on