11/09/18 11/09/18 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from pacifica, this is democracy now! w was in lalas vegass with a lot of his friends and he came home. you did not come home last night, and i don't want prayers i don't want thoughts. i want gun control. amy: the city of thousand oaks is morning-after marine corps veteran opened fire in a southern california country music far, killing 12 people. one of the murder victims had

survived last years las vegas massacre at a country music concert, the worst mass shooting in modern american history. we speak with navy veteran sarah dachos with moms demand action for gun sense in america. she asks why after police were called to his house months ago, it did not trigger red flag laws. why did he still have his guns. then to florida, where days after the midterm elections, the state's races for senate and governor appear to be heading for recounts. >> wheheth i it is an absenteeee vote, whether you voted on election day, whether it is aa provisional ballot, we want evevery vote counted. we did notot go across this stae talklking to folks in red counua blue county and purple county not to have them have their say. amy: could andrew gillum still become governor of florida? we speak with andrea cristina mercado of the new florida majority. then to detroioit, where we spek with rashida talib, who has made history as one of two of the

nation's first muslim congresswomen. >> the fact that nowow two muslm american women are going to be able walk the house floor of cocongress, what an incredible moment in our country, celebrated -- celebrate it. and we will speak with peace activist kathy kelly, who protested on the steps of the saudi consulate in new york city yesterday. >> we want an immediate and to all of the warring parties fighting and bombing in yemen. we want an immediate opening of every roadway, of every port so humanitarian goods can be distributed. amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the city of thousands oaks in california remains in mourning after a former marine opened fire at a country music bar wednesday night, killing 12 people, mostly students. it was the deadliest mass

shooting in the united states since the parkland, florida, school shooting in february. police have identified the gunman as 28-year-old ian david long, a marine veteran who had deployed to afghanistan and had a history of mental health issues, including possible ptsd. police said long set off smoke grenades inside the bar before opening fire using a glock .45 caliber handgun eququipped with an exextendeded ammunition magazine. long also died i inside the bar. he reportedly frequented the borderline bar and grill before the shooting and had had multiple interactions with locol authoritities. earlier this year, he was evaluated by mental health professionals after a disturbance was reported at his home he shared with his mother, but he was cleared by the specialists. chef geoff dean discussed his previous law enforcement interactions. >> we've had several contacts with mr. long over the years. minor events.

he was a v victim of a battery n a bar. in april, depuputies were called to his house foror a subject disturbing.. they wen to the house. they talked to him. he was somewhat irate and acting a little irrationally. they called out ouour crisis intervention team, our mental health specialist who met with him, talked to him, and cleared him. did not feel he was quaualifiedo be taken under 5150. lasts left at t the scene april. amy: we will have morere on a shooting after headlineses. in other newews from california, massive wildfires have scorched parts of both northern and southern california. the town of paradise, about 90 miles nonorth of sacramento, has been devastated after a fast-spreading fire forced tens of thousands to evacuate and burned over 1000 buildings and homes to the ground. the fire repeportedly killed multltiple people in paradise. meanwhile in ventura county, the raging hill fire, not far from

wednesday night's mass shooting, threatens to burn up to 30,000 acres as firefighters continue to b battle the flames. a federal judge in montana has temporarily halted the construction of the controversial keystone xl pipeline thursday. the keystone xl would carry oil from canada's tar sands region in alberta to refineries as fafr away as the gulf of f mexico. the court's decision will require the trump administration to more thoroughly review the potential negative impacts of the pipeline on the surrounding environment, as well as its effefects on climate c change. president obama halted the construction of the pipeline in 2015 following mass public protests, but trump reveversed e order shortly after he came into -- he became president. environmental and indigenous groups hailed the decision thursday. sierra club attorney doug hayes said in a statement -- "the trump administration tried to force this dirty pipeline project on the american people, but they can't ignonore the threats it would pose to our clean water, our climate, and our communities."

it's unclclear whether the trump administration will appeal the decision. for our complete coverage on the keystone xl pipeline, head to our website at democracynow.org. house democrats called for an emergency hearing thursday, following president trump's ouster of attorney general jeff sessions. democrats urged the passing of a bill that would protect special counsel robert mueller as he continues his probe into potential russian collusion with the trump campaign in the 2016 election. democrats also formally requested the preservation of all documents related to jeff sessions' firing, writing -- "we remind you that concealing, removing or destroying such documents may constitute a crime." in the senate, republican jeff flake of arizona and democrat chris coons of delaware said they will push for a floor vote on a bipartisan bill to protect mueller's probe. meanwhile "new york times" op-ed , a published thursday, claims

that trump's appointment of matthew whitaker as new acting attorney general is unconstitutional. the op-ed was written by neal katyal, the former acting solicitor general under president obama, and george t. conway, a high-profile litigator and husband to white house counselor, kellyanne conway. they write -- "constitutionally, matthew whitaker is a nobody. his job as mr. sessions' chief of staff did not require senate confirmation. for the president to install mr. whitaker as our chief law enforcement officer is to betray the entire structure of our charter document." this comes as trump is reportedly considering former new jersey governor chris christie, florida attorney general pam bondi, and labor secretary alexander acosta for attorney general. meanwhile thursday night, demonstrations were held in over 1000 cities and towns calling for the protection of the mueller probe. this is protester cristina

delariva in new york. >> i don't think anyone here is defending jeff sessions. i think what we are defending is the integrity of the justice department. i think we are defending the integrity of institutions. i think the president has attacked our important institutions -- the fbi, department of justice -- and i think everyone should be held to account. everyone is accountable. amy: the trump administration has announced new immigration rules to deny asylum to anyone who enters the country outside of a port of entry. the american civil liberties union called the movove illegal, saying -- "u.s. law specifically allows individuals to apply for asylum whether or not they are at a port of entry. it is illegal to circumvent that by agency or presidential decree." trump, who turned the central american caravans traveling to the u.s.-mexico border into a major campaign issue in the lead-up to the midterm elections, is expected to announce which countries will be

affected by the rules today. trump, invoking national security concerns, plans to use the same legal provision used to push the travel ban last year. this comes as new court filings show there are still 171 children separated from their families in u.s. custody, more than four months after a judge ordered the trump administration to reunite all families that were separated at the u.s.-mexico border. in more immigration news, a california appeals court ruled thursday the trump administration cannot shut down the daca program, upholding a federal judge's ruling earlier this year. daca, the deferred action for childhood arrivals, affects the immigration status of some 700,000 formerly undocumented people who were brought to the u.s. as children. trump announced plans to do away with the program last year and was immediately challenged by lawsuits from a number of states and other groups. the ruling sets the case up for a possible supreme court hearing

in 2019. in election news, several key races remain too close to call. three days after the midterm elections. in arizona's senate race, democrat kyrsten sinema has taken a slight lead over republican opponent martha mcsally. hundreds of thousands of ballots remain to be counted, mostly in maricopa county, the state's largest county. in florida, democratic gubernatorial candidate andrew gillum said he is prepared for a possible recount as his margin with republican opponent ron desantis has narrowed to less than half a percentage point. gillum conceded to desantis on election night after the race was called for his opponent, but the margin has since tightened. a recount is triggered in florida if the winnining candidate's margin is less than half a percentage point. incumbent democratic senator bill nelson and republican governor rick scott wiwi likely head to a recount in the senate

race, with scott leading by just 0.2%. in georgia, republican candidate for governor brian kemp has resigned as secretary of state, even as the closely watched race for governor has been called. opponent, democrat stacey abrams has vowed to stay in the race until all votes are counted. white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders is coming undeder fire for shaharing an apparently dococtored video o on correspondndent jim acosta''s interactioion with a a white h e intern at wednesday's press confnference. the deo o waorigiginal shahared bybyn account t linked to infowars, , a far-righght conspy website, and appears to speed up the moment of contact between acosta and an intern while she tried to take his mic away, making it seem like he was aggressively pushing down on her arm. "the washington post" published a side-by-side thursday, showing the original footage and the apparently edited video. the white house banned acosta

on wednesday, ostensibly because of the interaction, hours after he clashed with president trump at the n news conferencece, demanding answers on the caravan. planned talks between secretary of state mike pompeo and north korean officials were postponed thursday. outgoing u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley later said it was because "because weren't ready," though recent reports suggest north korea is unhappy with the lack of concessions from the u.s. in the ongoing talks over denuclearization, namely on the issue of easing sanctions. trump has said he plans to meet with north korean leader kim jong un early next year to contininue talks on aa denuclearization agreement.. in gaza, israeli forces shot and killed a palestinian man at the separation barrier with israel thursday. 220 gazans have been killed since the great march of return demonstrations began over seven months ago. this according to gazan officials. the trump administration announced new sanctions over russia's 2014 annexation of

crimea.. this comes as both trump and russian president vladimir putin have said they might hold talks in france next week as they attend armistice day celebrationsns in paris.s. google is overhauling its policies for dealing with claims of sexual misconduct after tens of thousands of workerss worldwide staged a mass walkout last weeeek. google said thursday its ending its practice of forced arbitration, which usually happens in private settings and often forces employees to agree to confidentiality clauses. supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburgrgas been hospitalizeded after a fallll wednesdayay eveng resulted in three fractured ribs. the health of the liberal 85-y-year-old juicice, the o olt sitting justice on the supreme court, has come under increased scrutiny in recent years. she previously fractured two ribs in 2012 and is a cancer survivor. once news of her fall became public, many took to social media to offer their support. actress alyssa milano wrote --

"ruth bader ginsberg can have my ribs. and my kidneys and a lung. and anything else she needs." and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. the city of thousand oaks, california, is morning after a former marine opened fire at a country music are i insane nigh, killing 12 people, mostly students. it was the deadliest mass shooting in the united states is the parkland, florida, school shooting in febrbruary. police have identified the gunman as 28-year-old ian david long, a marine veteran who had deployed to afghanistan and had a history of mental health issues, including possible ptsd. police said a long set off smoke grenades inside the bar before opening fire using a glock .45 caliber handgun equipped with an extended commission magazine.

long then turned the gun on himself, they say. longer you diddly frequented -- repeatedly frequented the bar and had multiple interactions with local authorities. earlier this year, he was evaluated by mental health professionals after police responded to a disturbance at his home he lived with his mother. he was cleared by the specialist. cnn reports a neighbor said long's mother lived in fear of what her son might do. the dead include 27-year-old telemachus orfanos, who survived the deadly las vegas massacre at a country music festival last year only to be gunned down at -- gunned downwn wednesdsday ni. thisis is his mother, susasan schmididt-orfanos. >> my son was in las vegas with a lot of his friends and hehe ce home. he did not come home last night. and i don't want prayers. i don't want thoughts. i wantnt gun control. amy: many of the vicictims are students, the youngest named victim is 18 year old alaina housley, a freshman at

pepperdine university. ron helus from the ventura county sheriff's office, who responded to the shooting, was also killed in the attack. he had been on the force for about three decades. cnn reports around the time of the shooting, long posted to facebook writing -- "i hope people call me insane. wouldn't that just be a big ball of irony? yeah, i'm insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is 'hopes and prayers' or 'keep you in my thoughts' every time and wonder why these keep happening." the gunman allegedly wrote on facebobook. well, for more, we go to washington, d.c., where we are joined by a guestst. sarah dachos is a volunteer with the d.c. chapter of moms demand action for gun sense in america and a founding member of the everytown veterans advisory council. welcome to democracy now! can you please respond to what took place, one of the worst mass shootings?

it is horrifying to say the one that was even worse was just months ago, parkland, the killing of -- at the high school. and of c course, the harbor if t shooting that took place in las vegas at country music festival where one of the survivors of that were gunned down wednesday night at the country music bar. >> thank you for having me on the show, amy. our group is an advocacy organization that pushes legislators to pass commonsense gun legislation. what happened in california and s in the united states over and over and over again just shows how much we need to have common sense gun legislation passed. what happened on tuesday with the midterms is proof the american people feel the same way. we had gun sense champion after gun sense champion elected in the congress and will be putting

up their hands in january two swear to help andd protect the american people. and one of the ways to do that is with common sense gun legislation. amy: so talk about what you understand happened on wednesday night. you are a navy veteran. apparently, in long, the gunman who may have taken his own life after killing 12 people, was a marine veteran. talk about y your response to ts , what happened, the fact the police had been called to his house where he lives with his mother, that his mother was afraid, mental health professionals were called in, yet he still kept his gun. >> we understand there are still more information to o be brought out. but what we feel very strongly about is red flag laws help to prevent these types of mass shootings. and suicides.

deaths that occur in the united states are self-inflicted. any go explain what red flag laws are. >> absolutely. red flag laws is another way to put it, extreme risk protective order. what that does is allows a loved one or law enforcement or anybody, in fact, who thinks themselves,l wound do harm to t themselves oror ot, they can have the gun temporarily taken away. california was the first state to pass the red flag laws in 2014 after they y also had anotr mass shooting at that time with somebody, who if the gun have been taken away, probably would not have done this mass shooting. if we find more information about what has happened and why this young man did not have his gun taken away, this is the type of legislation that helps with

mass shootings. amy: you know, a number of people have c commented that the flipping of the house to democratic, that a part of that can be treated to the parkland kids. the killing earlier on valentine's day of 17 people in parkland, florida. reaction,st immediate the survivors, demanding gun the country, in tallahassee, the capital florida. many state laws have changed. then they traveled in a caravan with many other young people from all over the country. can you talk about what it means to have flipped the house, but in fact, ultimately, on any legislation, it is president trump an an array -- major supporter of the nrara, would he to sign offf on?

>> absolutely. we cannot predict what president trump is going to do. but what i will say is that by flipping the house and specifically flipping the house with numerous gun since champions, we are going to see these champions fight for gun sense legislation in the house. we already have some gun sense legislation champions already in the senate. senator chris murphy has been an incredible leader on this front. and with them influencing, they will be able to continue to change the culture in america and continue to work on these issues. what i will say is flipping houses one thing. it absolutely was crucial. and the reason that the house was able to flip was, as you implied, the parkland students in this tide that is turned in our country since february. the tide has been starting to turn before february. we were seeing state legislative bodies pass gun sense legislation in the past three or

four years. nothing like we have seen this year, but it happened the last three or four years in the tide cap building and building and building. when parkland happen, the energy and the enthusiasm and the anger of these parkland students, and other students across the --ntry, enabled or continued or contributed to ensuring these midterms happened the way they did on the house side. what i really want to talk about also in terms of that is our group and many other violent prevention groups work on a cultural shift. it is one thing to go to the ballot, to campus, the phone bank, to get people to the ballot. but to get able to the ballot, the cultural change has to happen. the police and values of americans has to change. -- the beliefs and values of americans has to change. we want gun sense legislation because we want our communities to be safe.

when we talk about the parkland students, let us not forget there are urban students, students who live in urban environment to have experienced gun violence constantly, who have been protesting even before the parkland students protested, who are using a first amendment rights to protest, to engage with their members of congress, to engage with their legislators on the city level or on the statee level. they were turning the tide as well. this tide has been turning for a long time. a newco someone pointed out this was the 304th mass shooting in , almost ones year per day. finally, i want to go to the military background of the shooter. veteran. navy he was a marine. he served apparently in helmand province in 2010 at the height of the surge, was a gunner. he used a glock with an extended magazine. you know, there's not a lot known at this point, may have been suffering from ptsd.

but can you talk about this military connection? and then also, you know, the gun he used and the magazine, what he had that and was this magazine illegal at least? >> my understanding is the magazine was illegal in california. it is not clear to us how he was able to obtain that magazine. what i can take is even of california has some of the strict list gun laws in the country, states around california do not. in terms of his military experience and yes, i'm a navy veteran and my role as a navy vet and my role while i was in when we are around weapons, we are safe around weapons. i am sure this young man was taught in his ring court time how does a ring court time how to be 100% safe with his weapon, how to lock it up, keep the ammunition separated from his weapon. when it comes to the ptsd

elements, we have veterans who have suffered from ptsd. incredibly heart dieching how many veterans a day from self-inflicted wounds with a gun b because they have access to o guns. amy: we're talking something like 17 veterans a day kill themselves? >> i have heard numbers above 20 veterans today. it is part of the reason i got involved with moms demand action for gun sense in america as a vet, to know my fellow veterans are in situations where they are so devastated by what happened to them while they were serving in the military or maybe even not while in the military, but ,ave these mental challenges are so stressed that they feel they want to take their own lives. fromlso, not to steer away the veteran aspect of it or the

military aspect of it, we have this issue with americans all over the country, whether they served or not. we have this issue with students and youth who live in urban environments where gun violence is the reality of every single day. so this is an issue we have to address across the country. this is an issue where if we are going to lower gun violence, whether it is with mass shootings or everyday violence that happens, whether it is suicide like i said -- 57% of americans die because of suicide. we need to be e working on the mental health of this and how we prevent violence through community-based apprproaches. at the end of the day -- image of the last 10 seconds. >> at the end of the day, we need to prevent access to guguns becaususe that is s the prevalet issue. guns are so accessible. amy: sarah dachos, thank you for

being with us, volunteer with the d.c. chapter of moms demand action for gun sense in america and a founding member of the everytown veterans advisory council and navy veteran. we will l back in 30 seconds with what is happening in the races in florida. ♪ [music break] amy: "stand up for something" andra day and common at the march for our lives with the baltimore choir. 800,000 people marched against gun violence last march.

this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we go now to florida, where days after the midterm elections, the state's races for senate and governor appear to be heading for recounts. democratic gubernatorial candidate andrew gillum saidid e is p prepared for a possible recount as his margin with republican opponent ron desantis narrowed to less than half a percentage point thursday. gillum conceded to desantis on election night after the race was called for his opponent, but the margin has sin t tightened. a recount isis triggered in florida if the winning candidate's margin is less than half a percentage point. incumbent democratic senator bill nelson and republican governor rick scott will likely also head to a recount in the senate race, with scott leading by less than a quarter percentage point as of thursday. that is .2%. on thursday evening, republican florida governor rick scott sued the democratic elections supervisors of broward and palm beach counties. he accused them of "unethical liberals" of trying to steal the election. we've all seen the incompetence

for years. here we go again. i willll not sit idly byy while unethical liberals try to still the selection from the great people of florida. senator nelson hired one of hillarary clinton's lawyers from d.c. in n the first thing g he d was tell reporters he is here to win elections. he did not say he is here -- that he was a full and fairr election or even an accurate vote count. amy: these will be the first statewide recounts since bush v. gore. well, for more, we go to ft lauderdale, where we are joioind by andrea cristina mercado, executive director of the new florida majority. welcome to democracy now! please explain to the country what is happening in your state. >> i'm here in the heart of broward county where we are still waiting for every vote to be counted. we had a race in the governor's race that was historic and significant. andrew gillum had an upset victory in the primary.

we endorsed him and ran one of the largest field programs because we know candidates that run on transformative platforms can energize a new electorate and bring out people who don't usually come to the polls. and we saw historic turnout, 250,000 people who did not vote in 2016 voted inin this electio. and yet on election night, as is so often the case in florida, it was razor thin margins. it was pointing toward a desantis victory. vote e remains to be counted here in broward county. many of our votes have not yet bebeen tabulated. andrew gillulum is now within wt is triggered for an automatic machine recount. senator nelson is headed for a manual recount, a recount that happens by hand when a race is won or lost by less than one

quarter of a percentage point. 15,000 votes in a state with over 20 million people. so there are a lot of people on the edge of their seats that are really hoping actually the forces for unity and a vision for florida where all of us belong will prevail in this election. amy: florida's chief legal officer for the secretary of state told county election supervisors to plan for three statewide recounts. >> that is correct. so we have andrew gillum and desantis, the governor's race heading to a machine recount. senator nelson and rick scott is headed to a manual recount. and nikki frequently agricultural mission or, is now as the votes in broward county continue to be tied later. amy: can you explain what is going on in broward? by 2000 withe born

bush v gore, the whole issue with chads and every thing else. explain what has happened on that ballot and how difficult it was to read and why so manany people who filled out their choice for governor actually did not vote in the senate race. >> yeah. i mean, it is very frustrating for all of us here in broward county. i was in that voting booth with my two daughters and really had to search for where i was going to vote for u.s. senate. it was on the left-hand side and below many of the other significant statewide races. so it was a little obscure, the design of the ballot was flawed. we believe that resulted in tens of thousands of people not voting in the race for u.s. senate while they voted for many other statewide races.

amy: what happened -- what happened and little miami, rather, little haiti and miami. the early voting site different than the voting site on the day of the midterms? >> i think -- we have seen for vote ise ways that the suppressed. some of it is done by laws like the law we had on the books where people with a criminal record after they had done their time were not allowed to participate in our democracy. over 1.4 million floridians. we just overturn that on election day, which is incredibly significant. there are all kinds of other laws, voter id laws. i spoke to an 86 euros woman asterday who had to fill out provisional ballot because her drivers license was expired. imagine that, she is 86 and doesn't drive anymore. in addition to that, there are a tends to confuse voters. in little haiti, there was one and theminent site haitian community that was used as an early voting site.

and on election day, hundreds of seniors were lined up there to cast and is stored vote for andrew gillum, yet that location was not actually a voting place on election day and people weree told they had to go elsewhere.e. wewe were scrambling to find out how do we get seniors and people with limited mobility to the correct voting place. we are still investigating other ways the vote may have been suppressed. i would not be surprised -- stories have been emerging in a would not be surprised if more stories continue to emerge over the next few days. amy: finally, the issue of amendment 4, this historic amendment that passed overwhelmingly. that means 1.4 million floridians will be allowed to vote. one of the largest enfranchisement actions in history. young people being able to vote

back in the 1970's, going from 21 to 18 and back to women being able to vote in 1920. 1.4 million floridians could now vote in 2020 who had felonies on their record, were barred from voting, now they will be able to -- what difference would that make today? >> absolutely. essentially, andrew gillum got within half a percentage point while he was missing 18% of the black vote in the state. we all know criminal is a disproportionately affects african-americans and communities of color. there is now 1.4 million flororidians who havee been disenfranchised, largely people of color, who will be able to vote in the next election. i think this is forever changed the political calculus in florida. forces forlieve the

social justice and economic justice and racial equity, it is just a matter of time before we prevail and we will overcome all the odds and voter suppression and every other dirty trick in the book, and soon secure politicianselect that we believe will really fight for our communities. amy: if andrew gillum war to win the governorship, he will be the fifirst black governor of flori. >> at the shrinking margins? amy: that there could be a recount. >> absolutely. i think tuesday night was a hard night. it was a bitter pill to swallow. but i think for us, our movements will never concede to hate, to homophobia. we will never concede to bigotry . and we will be here insisting that every vote is counted.

there were hundreds of volunteers across the state yesterday making sure that people who had cast provisional ballots had done what they needed to do and make sure their voice was heard. everyoneontinue to see taking to the streets on november 20. we will have a statewide day of action for us to stand up for florida for all of us. amy: andrea cristinana mercado, thank you u for being with us executive director of the new , floridida majority. when we come back, one of the many firsts in this midterm election, one of two muslim women congressmember-lx. we will be joined by rashida talib from detroit. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

amy: "talkin' about revolution" by tracy chapman. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. on tuesday evening, palestinian american rashida tlaib in michigan and somali american ilhan omar in minnesota became the first muslim women elected to congress. rashida tlaib is a democratic socialist who supports the palestinian right of return and a one state solution.

she also supports medicare for all, a $15 minimum wage and abolishing ice. the child of immigrants, tlaib has spoken out against the trump administration's travel bans. this is rashida tlaib celebrating her historic victory. mom whot you to know my came from a small village in west bank, they are glued. they are glued to the tv. my grandmother, my aunts and uncles and palestine are sitting by him watching her granddaughter -- [applause] i want you to know, is a applet the families in this district, i

will uplift them every single day being i am as a proud palestinian american woman. amy: in 2016, rashida talib made news when she confronted then candidate donald trump at the detroit economic club. she got up and shouted, "have you ever read the u.s. constitution?" she was taken out by security. for more, we go to madison heights, michigan, where we're joined by rashida tlaib, the democratic congresswoman-elect to michigan's 13th congressional district. rashida tlaib, welcome to democracy y now! congratulations. how do you feel? you have made history. >> you know, it is overwhelming but it is happy chaos is what i describe it as. i'm just ready to get to work. i feel like theree is so muchcht stake right now and very limited time for us to be of a change people's lives. i'm just ready to get things going in to provide neighborhood service centers throughout my

district for the resididents of the e 13th. as you probablknknow, amy, i have been campaigning for nine months and this is the thihird popoorest congressional l distrt inin the country. we have not have representation for almost a year now with congressman conyers retiring earlier this year. amy: talk about your platform and what you help -- what you hope to push t through and you become a congress member. >> justice for all civil rights act as my first proposal that i put forward. this is months of been listening to a lot of the residents within the 13th congressional district. the number onene issue people might not even realize here in michigan and especially in my diststrict is that we haveve the highest car insurance rates in the country. my zip code literally is the average of like $5,000. pushing people more into p povey

, takiking away access to jobs n many ways because they don't have transportation and we don't have mass transit here in the memetro detroit area. what came about by looking at this is the fact that civil act thatt, a historic very m much intended this kikinf discriminatory practice, car insurance reredlining practitico be a civil rights violation. what happened over the last 50 64 act,ter passing the our courts got increasasingly me conservatitive. it down.arted watering and now for us to go up against corporations, we have to show the high t threshold of intentional didiscrimination. well, ththe justice for all civl rights act i'm going to introduce says, no, i if we can show the impact of that policy and that process that t they are using is discriminatory in practice, thenen that should be -- theh for us to say civil rights arere being violat.

less than halflf of my family'sn the district don't owown their n home.. by banksices currently, even within communities of color, have now increasingly become more discriminanatory. more and more of my residenents don't have access s to lending. don't have access to economic activities. the justice for all civil rights act is transformative in that way in that we can start looking at these processes and thesese structures, really, is very committed very much strongng structctures and barriers within these kinds of corporations and ceosctices i many of thee as violations of people civil rights. that alone will open up thosee doors and pushed back against things that i fefeel are very mh an american. amy: on the issue of foreign policy, well, this certainly isn't foreign policy because your mother was standing right next to you as you are giving your victory speech tuesday night. your mother wears a hijab. your family is palestinian.

you have expressed firmly your support for a one state solution. can you talk about how you will try to make this happen in u.s. congress? >> all of it has to happen organically. people on the ground need to want it. all i know is from my own experiences. from dehumanizining -- i don't care if f it is israelis or palestinians, to humanization of people, human beings who want to live with h human dignity, equality, same access to opportunities that american families want. this is what is lacking in the conversation when we talk about what is going on in palesestinin -- p palestine andnd some of the occupied territories and even among israelis. the majority of them thinking maybe we can have a two state solution. maybe that is the direction that many of them want. and if that is what they want, then that is their right to self-determination to gain.

what i can to you is what i know. from a own experience in the united states looking at real american history. separate but equal does not work. we tried it. again, this is what is happening here in america alslso they're looking at our own history. that is what i understood saying, well, you can only live here, can only work here, these are the hospitals you should go to. i keep thinking of my grandmother. she is probably in her late 80's now. she does not know what yeaear se was born. when i talkeked to her, she dodoesn't think -- she thinks, this is where i live. this is where i want to be illegal to the hospital, g get e care that i want, to be able to far my own land without getting harassed. right next to her home as a checkpoint. she never could have imagined having to be able -- having to be checked before she could leave her home.

those are the things i will be a lot of do to try to uplift her and many of the palestinians they very much feel dehumanized. i can try to share those stories. theery much relateses to stories i heard from african-american teachers who taught me about african-american history and why separate but equal did not work. why i really strongly believe that if we stop segregating, wee start integrgrating ththe schoos there and start talking to each other and d not relying -- lookg at trumpmp's america, whihich io much likee netanyahu's israel, that we stop talking about these divisive people messages coming through. it i is so much not what is happening on the ground. i believe israelis want these peacefultion - -- solution. that may result in and try to look at my grandmother and saying, yes, you deserve legal

rights just as much as i do. amy: will yoyou try to impeaeach president trump? >> yes. i truly belilieve he is obstructining justice. it is very clear that something is wrong within our own government. you can like the man, but i can tell you -- i know you like the rule of law more. thaterica, there is laws we all follow, that we all should equally be held accountable too. and i continue v very strongly that this is n not political f r meme. he could be a democratic president, and i would still say the same thing. obstruction of justice -- as an attorneyey myself, i can tell yu will be start turning our heads anand letting little things slip by like what we as in the past few days, we arere jeopardizingg our own democracy. wewe are jeopardizing that accountability and a balance of government that is there that is so critical for us to l live ina free countryry. we cannonot allow him to taint

this process that is there for a reason. i am v very much willing to stst investigating and leaning toward that. if h he is anything to do with obstructing justice. it pretty much souounds like hes tryingng to sway this investigation and trying to make sure that he protects himself that of protecting our own country. amy: we support nancy pelosi who is just announced she will go for the house speakership? >> i am so much focus on helping the other women of color.r. i don't know if you know, it is that just me and ilhan omar but some of the youngest membersrs f cocongress, beautiful colors of women are coming in to the united states congress. incredible class that is coming in, and i'm so focused on t trying to uplift tm to lean on eacach other, to makg susure we are able to serve the families and the residence of believed in us. we want to focus on that and

focus on making sure we have a seat at the table, that we can truly be heard not just displayed as, oh, look, our caucus is now t the first, grea. put us at a table whwhere we can have a voice, where we c can fel lilike we can make a differencen a lot of the issues that we feel is critically important for our families back home. amy: your member of democratic-socialist of america. what democratic socialism is. >> for me right now in detroit,t, this is what it mean. i fought so heavily against corporate textbooooks. i've seen our schools anand detroit close down. close to 60 schools have closed downwn in the city of f detroit whwhile we are channeleling pubc money. these e are our own taxexes inta hockey stadidium. the e red wings hockey stadium downtown detroit. 60% of the funds that went totoward thehe hockey stadium tt could have gone to schchools.

$4$400 million awaway from schos .nto an adultt playground a for-profofit industry. to me that is completely unethical, immoral. for me it means living in a just, fair, equitable society. and that is not faiair when you have billions in thehe corporate welfare line when our children are stilll hungry, when our schools are still underfunded, where i cannot even get -- the fire hundreds in some of our neighborhoods need to be fixixe. i cannot undnderstand the lack f resources that we have to deal with the increasing concentration of poverty and many of the neighborhoodods. it is wrong. to me, it is agagainst what i believe is the role of government, which iss issue be about people, not cororporations will step amy: i want to return to yemen, but also bring in a second guest, a woman who has been nominated for nobel peace prize i don't know how m many times, kathy kelly. in the crisis in yemen where the u.s.-backed saudi led coalition

has drastically escalated its assault on the yemeni port of hodeida. the guardianan reports there hae bebeen at least 200 airstrikes n the past week, killing at least 150 people. one strike destroyed a home in hodeida, killing a father and his five children. the increase attacks come as calls grow for a cease-fire to the three-year war, which has devastated yemen. mike pompeo defense secretary jim mattis have both called for a cease-fire in yemen. on thursday, group of s call foron cessation. the united nations calls thihis the worst to military catastrophe in the world. in addition to rashida talib, we want to get your response to this. we're joined by kathy kelly, co-coordinator of voices for creative nonviolence, a campaign to end u.s. military and economic warfare. you helped organize a protest in new york yesterday. what are you calling for?

>> we want to see an immediate end to the fighting and lifting of any of the blockades, ports or roadways. we want to see the children focused on as the most important issue right now, not political maneuvering in order to try to make the biggest -- as you say, it is a very dire situation. the united nations people who sounded the alarm said a complete collapse could happen, leading to the famine that could cause starvation. 14 million people. amy: you're outside the saudidi consulate. what about the u.s. relationship with saudi arabia? >> two of our people were arrested and held briefly. what we want to say to people inside those offices whose that we're just trying to go to our jobs, if there is human trafficking or there's some kind of narco trafficking going on in the office next review and said that building, wouldn't you feel like you had a responsibility to do something?

well, we have a responsibility to end the u.s. complicity in this hideous atrocity that keeps unfolding every day, and certainly to stand up to the saudis. i think people who work within those offices joined in that responsibility. amy: the murder of jamal khashoggi in the saudi consulate in istanbul, turkey, october 2 theaudi officials, dismemberment or murder -- it is still not clear where his body is -- call some attention to what is happening in yemen because a called attention to the murderous policy of the saudi regime. do you feel there's some movement in congress right now? >> i think there is some movement. i think all would be willing to acknowledge it is too little and for many, many people, too late. jamalsmemberment of khashoggi was so ghastly and it

made people realize the saudis would go to great lengths to cover up, to obfuscate, to delay any kind of action but certainly the dismemberment of children who have been hit by aerial attacks is just as ghastly. this translation of jamal khashoggi was horrible, but -- amy: and called attention to what is happening in yemen. >> and when children die from starvation, it is basically a six nation. i think we have to be sure to the on promoting possibility that these children's lives could be spared. amy: rashida talib, what are -- what are your plans when you enter congresessn dealing with yemen? >> first of all, kathy, thank you so much for your incredible leadership.

i think you being out there pushing back againinst -- for m, it is not movement -- when you say there's been some sort of movement in congress, it is just talk. including our own president. talking is not movement. we have to have action. we spent a lot of money -- i'd say millions to the saudi government. we have tremendous leverage as the united states ofof america. we seem to look away when there is other intererests at play. it is disturbingng to meme becae we need to be the leaders out there and pushining back against these kinds of starvations and inhumane c cruelty toward children. but even just fellow human beings. this is a generation. we can't get these children's years backoror them. this is really something that is

going to reflect on us and our policy for years to come. that yemeni chilild is going too growow up and l look to us and y we did not do anything. we are a leader in the nation. people say, well, we can't save everyone. boy, our public dollars are being sent to a lot of these governments that play a leadership role in some of these actions. we need to use that as leverage to say, no, enough. we're not going to use our public dollars, taxes that my neighbors pay into a system that does this is very disturbing. even the yemeni americans here who have done so much work to raise money to try to send to help is not enough. we need people and leadership within the united states congress to speak up. not to say they are concerned about the murdering of the journalist, not to say they're looking into it. no, enough is enough. we know exactly what is happening. let's stop pretending and

actually act by saying to the saudi government, no money until you stop doing w what you're dog to the yemeni community. amy: so you're saying cutting off u.s. military support for saudi arabia? >> use it as leverage. the sanctions that we have done to other countries that have done far less than what the saudi government has done to the yemeni people, we have done it befefore with sanctions and with pulling back our support. we haven't done in each of it with the saudi government. we absolutely no they have e a leadershship role h here in hurg by the inhumane actions government for the yemeni community. whatand you believe president trump is saying about saudi involvemement with the killing of khashoggi, rashida talib? or what is your response to the trump administration, jared

kushner and president trump, saying they're waiting for the themselvesnvestigate and theieir defense of the crown prince? >> that t is what they''re sayig -- >> i know we have our own intelligence and i know we have -- i am not ththere yet, but i m sure our own intelligence is confirming exactly what the market people already know. and you go into thank you for being with us rashida talib. congratulations on being a first. you and ilhan omar, the first muslim american women to enter congress. i also want to thank kaththy kelly, c co-coordinator of voics for creative nonviolence host of plea stay with us and can also talk about what is happening in afghanistan as you fight for peace around the world. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]

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