the 51%. >> ♪ searching for survivors in the aftermath of indonesia's volcano and tsunami. the death toll now nearing 300 as the threat of more deadly searching for survivors in the aftermath of indonesia'swav. france's prime minister meets the police unit violently attacked during saturday's yellow vest protests, valid and to hold violent protesters to

vowing to hold violent protesters to account. bordersla without events for those waiting in a shelter to enter the united states. welcome to our viewers in france and around the world. we begin in indonesia wherere te day after a devastating tsunami hit, rescue efforts are centered on finding survivors. teams are using everything from heavy equipment to their bare hands to search through debris. at last count, 281 people are known to. authorities say that number will rise. thousands of others have been injured. the precise cause of the tsunami is unclear as indonesia's president explained monday. >> we cannot be completely sure as of yet. yes, it might have been caused by an earthquake.

but we are not sure of the source. it is still being checked. in the future, o our national weather service will provide detection equipment as well as warning systems that can alert evererne. efforts,n the recovery we welcome christopher to the program, head of the international federation of the red cross indonesia office. thank you for joining us. your organization is assisting in the emergency response on d two. what are your teams focused on right nonow? >> thanks for having us. we are focused on assisting with search and rescue, assisting with evacuations, and assisting with the immediate life-saving and hehealth needs of those

affected. whether r it is referral servic, ambulance servicess, providing orthopedic specialists for injuries caused as a result of the tsunami, and also psychosocial support. many people had to be evacuated which is quite traumatic. many people are still living through the aftermath of several deadly earthquakes in the last few months. exactlys one almost three months ago along with several others. psychosocial support is an immediate and long-term need for those affected. >> we have not beenn hearing rereports of people found alive unfortunately. it seems with the lack of warning, many people were trapapped when the waves struck. and even getting reports on how many could still be missing -- have you been getting reports on

how many could still be missing? >> many were evacuated. at the s same time, , because is so quick, within minutes, obviously a lot of destruction along the western coast line of java. at the same time, because it was sothey are sayaying about 57 pe. that c could change. there are over 1000 injuries. we are hoping urgent medical care will not increase the casualty numbers. but we are not sure. we are doing everything we can to make sure the numbers stay low. the government authorities are very active to keep the numbers low and continue with search and rescue. >> we hear the huge number of people injured. at thihis point, over 1000. can you tell us about the types of injuries medical teams are treating? obviously, indononesian

auauthorities andd indonesian rd cross have a lot of experience dealing with these types of disasters. some o of the immediate medical needs would be the resusult of wounds, closed broken bones. that is why there is a focus on orthopedic specialists and immediate health needs for wounds to to injuries from the tsunami and falling debris. it is quick, urgent medical care . the indonesian red cross has mobilized 22 ambulances from across the country to the region to provide first aid on the spot and refer them to specialists and hospitals as quickly as possible. those are the types of injuries we are dealing with now. that will be the focus in the

immediate aftermath of this type of disaster. something indonesian red cross is working on and that we are working on, we have a lot of experience dating back to o aftr the 2004 4 indian ocean tsunana, that i is providg cleaean water, water tabletsts, and distributen clean water. we have 14 water trucks mobilized to the most affected regions toto provide clean wate. disaster, thee of wells will be contaminated. water sources will be contaminated. this is another way to ensure there are not more sick people as a disaster, result of this tf disaster. >> thanks so much for sharing all of that information with us. moving to the united states now.

president donald trumump has decided to fast track the departure of his secretary of defense. jim mattis intended to stay on through february to take part in a planned nato meeting, but trump moved the timing up to january 1, effectively firing him after he quit. mattis is reportedly leaving over the president's decision to withdraw troops from syria. the order from that -- the order for that retreat has now been signed. the order has been approved after the shock resignation of jim mattis. he announced he would resign after the president's decision to withdraw troops from syria, a decision not welcomed by president trump. he is being forced to leave his post early with patrick shanahan taking over the post on the first of january. shanahan will give up his role as the pentagon's 33rd

deputy for the position. he has limited background in foreign policy. president trump took to twitter to defend his stance. >> i just had a long and productive call with president .rdogan of turkey we discussed the highly coordinated pullout of troops from the area. after many years, they are coming home. we also discussed extending trade. >> the turkish president has confirmed his troops will take over the fight against the islamic state group in syria. decisioncs say trump's abandons kurdish allies who have fought to defeat the terror group. president erdogan has pleledgedo dislodge the kurdish militia. he has already deployed troops

.n northern syria >> several american allies have openly expressed concern criticism of trump's order to withdraw from syria. that now includes france. on sunday, president macron method negatively to the decision. here he is speaking from his trip in chad. regret theuch decision taken in syria and i want to commend general mattis and the letter that came with his decision. i have known now for a year and a half how much mattis, and our defense minister knows this, was a reliable partner and constant reminder of the importance of alliances. to be an ally is to fight

shoulder to shoulder, and so an reliable.t be >> in other french news, he has met with french reliable motorcs who were violently attacked during saturday's protests. three officers were assaulted by demonstrators in paris. he has repeatedly condemned the police. and defended he spoke with reporters after the meeting on monday. >> the functioning of our institutions demands a return to order. demands that these provocations cease. these declarations sometimes colored with anti-semitism, this violence, this urge to destroy, to attack our forces of order. our objective is to call everyone to their responsibilities, to show the government's determination to maintain order, and to ensure

our country takes the necessary measures to prepare for the future, to fix what needs fixing, and to move forward with confidence. ahead of christmas, a group of chefs from california extending the spirit of giving across the u.s.-mexico border. giantday, they prepared aa batch of the traditional spanish dish. stirring this part are not trying to break a world record, but simply to serve thousands of central american migrants. for the organizer of the event, it is a way to get into the holiday spirit and draw attention to the plight of immigrants and refugees. >> there are no first or second class migrants.

we have all been migrants. we are here to make our voices heard. what better way to do that than with paella which symbolizes unity and happiness? up for af those lining place were part of the so-called migrant caravan and spent weeks traveling from central america toward the united states. they have now been tijuana over a month as they wait for a chance to cross the border and apply for asylum in the u.s.. but today, they have a chance to take their minds off the painful journey as they enjoy a plate of the traditional spanish dish. >> we are here waiting to try the famous paella. we are also grateful for the people who came here to support us. >> a rare moment of solidarity for these families who have little choice but to wait and see what the future holds. >> don't go away.

there is more news coming up next. >> ♪ >> welcome to a special year-end edition of the "france 24" debate. let he or she who has not bought that last-minute present on amazon cast the first stone. as it nears its first -- 25th birthday, has it already conquered the world? nowadays, wherever amazon go's, consumers pay less. but critics say margins compress shareholders.l does the real power ultimately dawn of amazon at the new era for capitalism? knows the only consumer habits of shoppers, it

has our postal addresses and tastes. with the streaming service and big data services, on both sides of the atlantic it is hurting traditional retailers. even going off-line allows your purchase of whole foods. amazon still minimizes its tax bill in europe by routing profits through the likes of luxenberg. this is a compmpany the world hs embraced the only place by u.s. rules. if france and the european commission consider regulation for tech giants across the atlantic, we are looking at what you could call amazon almighty. of this book on

how to make france the silicon valley of 2030. the glass is half-full to you. also joining us is the economist, the director of the center for economics. the principal quantum media teaches at columbia business school. because we are wondering how this change affects us as human beings, we are also in need of a good digital sociologist. fortunately, the happens to be with us. just how powerful is amazon? it even revived the carnegie deli recently. the legendary dining establishment went out of business a few years back.

season of itscond series, it came back to life, albeit as a pop-up deli. >> this is a once-in-a-lifetime experience. the pastrami is to die for. >> that was an actor, by the way. your thoughts on the power of amazon? >> let's do some stats. total as a percentage of e-commerce in the world is 5.6%. it is pretty small, not including the united states. in any united states it is 48% of e-commerce -- in the united states, it is 40% of e-commerce. they actually don't make money. they are busy taking money out of the pockets of smaller vendors, but for the last six or

seven years they have made less than 6% overall. their international businesses lost 6% last year. >> what do investors believe? >> it is a glamour stock. you just need to convince people they should be in there with you. it does not matter whether the company is making money. amazon earlier this month was rivaling with apple as a $1 trillion company on the new york stock exchange. is it overvalued? >> there is a big debate on its valuation. there is a big debate on faang stocks. is if youteresting compare the evaluation of amazon with walmart, walmart's

valuation is lower and yet its sales are much bigger. amazon -- walmart is making about $500 billion in sales. >> what is the lesson from the? if it iseople wonder not too valued, if the evaluation is not too high. i believe it is creating a new way of operating in business with warehouse automation and obsession with customers, so maybe the evaluation makes sense after all. >> does it make sense? >> am a bit surprised by the figures you mentioned because amazon and the rest of the big companies are actually making a lot of profit. there is rising evidence of market power concentration. while the influence of those big

companies is rising tremendously , it might backlash against them. when you talk about other valuations, that is the first backlash. they have lost 25% of their value recently. they were about to reach the $1 trillion market capitalization, but the sky is the limit actually. investors are not crazy. y know that the market has a limit. the prophet they are making and the margin there getting. those companies has increased by more than 40% recently. this has to stop sometime. investors probably tried that and they are getting aware that

this market share is going to stop somewhere because of market limitations but also backlash by the government. some regulations will be implemented to restore competition. we can talk about the antitrust regulations being implemented currently. there is a lot of political backlash against the market concentration by big companies. wouldas an investor, i not be surprised by that. >> it is interesting the comparison with walmart that is now forced to do online sales as well. the other starts as an e-commerce site like ebay was a few years back. what is the real world these days?

world is the world where amazon operates. there is no distinction between an entirely off-line and entirely online retailer or enterprise. the point is amazon's opening a few shops in the real world, meaning brick-and-mortars. they are working against other companies. the point is amazon is not only e-commerce. e-commerce is just one of the pillars. aws, the big data services, is another big part of amazon. and the third part which is impactmentioned is the amazon is having on our very

perception of work. it is a service amazon launched 2005-2006.o in it was and is an online market for labor. it has an impact. >> positive or negative? >> it is producing what jeff as piecework.d people are paid one or two cents per piece. >> where are these people employed? , but up ton the u.s. 50% of them are in india. this is having a big impact on the way labor is distributed worldwide. >> amazon is hiring. , it pickedovember

the suburbs of washington, d.c., and new jersey for headquarters. >> it is a great day for new york city. for every dollar we invest, we are going to get back about $9 give or take. to find the money we need to invest in subways, schools, etc., this is a big moneymaker for us. >> a big moneymaker for us, he says, but not everyone is enamored. reals worry it will raise estate prices and force out working families. big tax breaks were offered to entice amazon to new york city. senator bernie sanders, a frequent critic of amazon, tweeted that we must end the race to the bottom. amazon and other large corporations do not need corporate welfare.

instead, they need to pay their fair share of tax. you are a new yorker. >> i am. governor cuomo is not well known for projecting in the future about how much money his state has. >> he says is going to fix the subways. >> whatever. to put it into perspective, amazon employees 566,000 people, not including contract people around the world. the number of people they will be hiring outside of washington and new york is a small percentage of fat. -- of that. there is an argument they would have gone to those locations anyway but they had an auction. they put all the prices everybody else offered and tried to get the best deal. i cannot blame amazon for doing it. cannot blame the cities for taking the bait and putting out all this money.

>> you agree with bernie sanders that they need to pay more tax? >> i agree it is not a good idea for cities to compete. the service economy is an unfair economy in general. it is not manufacturing. it is decentralized. companies can pay what they want. workers have no comparisons. it does not seem like it is a reasonable thing for a city to decide they are the ones that can control the service economy salaries. warehousesas opened in france. they rolled out the red carpet for them, the government. >> that is right. walmart is making three times as much in sales as amazon. they are employing 2 million people. as you were saying earlier, amazon is employing about 600,000 people. comparables somewhat

between walmart and amazon in terms of sales per employee. when we say y they are destroyig jobs or compare it to walmart, you can see it is not as clear as it may seem. >> but wasn't that the argument when lamar came into the small towns? they were more efficient and destroy jobs on main street usa, essentially the next stage of what is going on. >> that means there are multiple debates. does walmart create jobs in comparison to local retail companies in small cities? and then, does walmart destroyed -- amazon destroy more jobs than w walmart? >> what is your conclusion? >> it may destroy some, but not more than walmart does. the question is, do they

destroy jobs? the big companies before were employing much more employees in general.