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brent: this is "dw news," live from berlin. no deal on a no-deal brexit. the british parliament leaving the european union with no deal in hand. i further bloat to prime minister theresa may's strategy. they need to face up to the consequences of the actions it has just taken. also on the show tonight, a building collapses in nigeria. scores are buried in the debris including schoolchildren. fanny: rescue teams are trying
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to get as many people as soon as possible from underneath the rubble. brent: they have managed to pull at least 27 people from the debris, including this young man. but there are fatalities. and the u.s. and donald trump join much of the rest of the world in grounding all boeing 737 max planes, following the second deadly crash of the airliner in less than five months. ♪ brent: i'm brent goff. it's good to have you with us. in an evening of high drama in britain's house of commons, it was theresa may's own government that is reported to be resigning as lawmakers back a motion to rule out a no-deal brexit. the vote, 321 in favor, 278 against. a few minutes ago, a very hoarse
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prime minister had this to say. >> the legal default in the u.k. remains the u.k. will leave the u.k. without a deal unless, unless, unless something else is agreed. the onus is on every one of us in this house to find out what that is. the options before us are the same as they always have been. we could leave with the deal which the government has negotiated over the past two years. we could leave with a deal we have negotiated subject to a second referendum. but that would risk no brexit at all. brent: we had team coverage tonight trying to understand what is happening in westminster. here at the big table is our brexit expert, alex forrest whiting, and in london, barbara wesel. we know parliaments as they do not want a no-deal brexit, yet the prime minister says that is
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probably what you are going to get. barbara: i mean, this was one of those chaotic evenings in politics that i have ever watched and observed. teresa may in the end, ripped against her own motion because she did not want to validate an early amendment which would take no deal off the amendment which was stronger in its outline. she even voted against her own motion and in the end, because some conservative mp's and even a government minister did not want to lay this game -- play this game, the motion went through. that is the oddest and weirdest piece of acting a government could come up with. now what happens now is she says, ok, we need a short technical extension in order to
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pass the deal the one that just last night had another devastating defeat in the house of parliament. she more or less threatened to have a third vote on this deal or she says we need a longer extension, we need to participate in european elections. then, as if threatening parliament was the other option, and saying in the end it might lead to no brexit. these are the options that she put on the table, more or less. and parliamentarians are going to have to vote tomorrow. so, they really have to think about what is the way forward and where is the majority. brent: where is the majority? we have been watching that for almost two years. we have the vote tomorrow, voting for this extension. according to what barbara has said, that extension would only
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be to prepare for what, no deal, or vote again and have the geo -- the deal that was rejected yesterday. alex: either it will be a very short delay to get her deal through again, which has barbara pointed out, has already been rejected twice. or there will have to be a muchh lolonger delay. so, this is again a threat to those people who want brexit to happen in parliament. a much longer delay. if that is the case, and if the eu agrees -- remember, they have to get 27 members of the eu to agree to that. they will have to field candidates in those european elections, which nobody wants. europe does not want that in the u.k. does not want that. a complete mess tonight. it has been a farce in parliament tonight. an absolute joke. we had theresa may putting down her motion just last night.
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she said very clear today and pry minister questions she would be supporting the government's motion, her motion. because of what happened earlier tonight, suddenly her whips had to tell all the mp's in her party to vote against it. many did not listen. 20 ministers abstained. they did not vote against, but the abstained. they will not necessarily have to resign, but this shows there has been a total breakdown and government. nobody can say which way it is going at the moment. brent: theresa may right now as it looks, she really has no credibility, even in her own party it seems. , barbara, what are you hearing about possible resignations? we are hearing the government is close to falling apart. barbara: the government has been close to falling apart since last year in november, maybe even before that. it consistently still will not oblige.
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it carries on. that is what theresa may does, she just carries on. in the face of all the opposition, the face of even her own party, where many yesterday started saying this has to end, this cannot go on. some senior tories and also somebody from her own camp, an mp said she has to consider how long she wants to do this. you always think that have reached the pinnacle, you have really reached peak bonkers and brexit. but no, there is always another step to come. this is what we saw tonight. there is always another turn of the screw. it is always for her own party to decide when the political end for theresa may will come. but it is a miracle that they still sit there and look at this. brent: i know there is the phrase peak oil, but peak brexit
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, i think that is a new one. we will have to get you a patent on that. alex, i want to make this clear for our viewers. tomorrow we have a vote in parliament to extend the beginning of brexit. alex: delay. brent: realistically into may. longer than that, the u.k. would have to participate in eu elections. alex: if it is until may only, that unless a miracle happens, it will have to be theresa may trying to put her deal back to parliament, which as we have said has been rejected twice. for a majority of mp's within parliament to agree on something and then to the eu agreeing on that as well by may, it looks very difficult. the e.u. have made it very clear they will only allow an extension with a good reason. the have to know what parliament wants and at the moment we do not know what parliament wants and perhaps we might start getting more indicative votes
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tomorrow night. mp's saying, do we want to go this way? no. that white? no -- that way? no. this could bring us to a second referendum. this is the point we are now reaching. it is chaos and nobody knows which way it is going. and although it is still political default that the eu leaves the u.k. -- the u.k. leaves the eu at the end of march with or without a deal, it does not look likely that will happen. mp's will have to come together. they have taken control tonight and they will have to find a way through this mess. brent: amazing. alex forrest whiting and barbara wesel in london. thank you for helping us understand what has become a very complicated brexit. we are going to go now to brussels, where teri schultz is standing by.
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i guess in brussels when you are watching this you have to also scratch your head. what is brussels preparing for now? teri: i am not sure they know. but what the commission has said tonight is reminding british lawmakers that simply voting against a no deal is not enough, they have to accept the deal. we are still at the same position we were at before these crazy votes and whip around and getting to the top of peak bonkers, as barbara putt it. so without accepting a deal, nothing has moved ahead as far as the european commission is concerned. michelle barney eight warned this morning that they are reaching the end of their patients in brussels. he said the deal is done. so, we are still waiting on the british parliament to accept that deal, to let us know what
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they want, and a reminder that all 27 governments would have to agree to an extension. so print -- just the british government saying they would go for an extension is not the final ruling. brent: is there a sense in brussels based on what you have heard that maybe we are looking at an emerging victory of sorts for the european union? there is a lot of commentary tonight along the lines that at the end of the day, brexit will fall apart and there will maybe be no brexit. teri: european union leaders have made clear all along that what they would like best is that there is no brexit. i do not think we are there yet, that anything would be reassured that will not be a brexit. right now, this morning he said he was worried there could be a no-deal brexit by accident. all this fumbling runs out the clock and march 29 arrives and be still did not know anything about what the u.k. wants. perhaps there has not been a vote backed by the 27 other eu
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governments to accept an extension. i do not think that you feels in any sense it has won, because what it really would like is the u.k. two-state in, or -- to stay in. not running up against a hard border in ireland, and all these people are not complete lee panicking about what will happen tomorrow. i do not think anyone is feeling disarray right now -- victory right now. they are very worried but at least they are staying calm, which is more than we can say about over there. brent: teri schultz in brussels, thank you very much. here are some of the other stories now that are making headlines around the world. police in brazil say 10 people are dedead after shooting at elementaryry school in sao paul. two people were seen entering the building firing weapons. the shooters are dead with reports that they turned the
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guns on themselves. u.s.-backed forces in syria have shelled the final strip of territory held by so-called islamic state in the town of baghuz. one report described the jihadists being cornered in a 700 meteter cluster of b buildi. 3000 jihadists have surrenenderd to the mainly kurdish forces since monday. myanmar has handed over to the yes a box of remains believed to be of an american airmen lolostn world d war ii. it is the first time u.s. military aircraft has been in myanmar on such a mission. tonight, emergency workers in the nigerian capital say several people have died after a multi-story building containing a school collapsed. scores of people including children are feared trapped in the rubble. the top floor of the building housed a private elementary
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school and about 100 students. reporter: amidst the chaos and confusion, one boy pulled out alive. but many mre feared trapped in the rubble. local authorities say the building, housing a private elementary school and a nursery on the top floor of a residential apartment block, collapsed late morning with around 100 students inside attending class. >> i was just passing by and i heard a building had collapsed with people living inside. so i had to come and rescue and help them to make it to the hospital. >> i feel so bad. so bad. reporter: rescue operations are underway, but emergency services say their efforts are being complicated by how densely populated the area is. they have been unable to cordon
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off large parts of it. with around 20 million people and growing, lagos is one of the biggest cities o on the africacn continent. it was not immediately clear why the building collapsed, but such incidents are not uncommon in nigeria. critics say they are often caused by unscrupulous investors, cutting corners on materials, or bribes being paid. for illegal building permits. brent: fanny facsar is at the site of the building collapse and she has been talking to emergency personnel and residents there. fanny: more and more people are coming here to see how these rescue efforts are going. many of them have been here since early this morning and many are saying that they are going to stay here overnight because they want to see and witness themselves if people and children are being pulled alive from underneath the rubble. according to the state governor, who was here this afternoon, about 25 people have already
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been pulled from below that rubble. but some of them were dead, he said. if you look at this crowd, it is not just people standing by. it is also relatives of those people who are still underneath the rubble, especially parents of course who are very much worried about their children. they want to know where they are, and they want to know whether they made it out alive. brent: that was fanny facsar, reporting. addend -- add another prison sentence to paul manafort. today he was sentenced to 3.5 years in jail on conspiracy charges. that is in addition to a four-year sentence for tax and bank fraud. a new york court has also indicted manafort on more charges. it is believed that is to insulate the case from a possible presidential pardon. the u.s. president can pardon people who commit federal crimes, but not state crimes.
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that's an important distinction. let's talk about this now with helena humphrey who joins us from washington. we saw manafort today put on a show of remorse in the courtroom but it did not seem to convince the judge. helena: no, it did not. mr. manafort certainly resented himself as full of remorse. he arrived in a wheelchair, he was wearing a dark suit. he said i am a shamed of my conduct, i am sorry, he made a plea for leniency. in the previous sentencing a few days ago, he did receive a lenient sentence. that received criticism that the privileged are dealt with in the u.s. legal system differently to those who are not privileged. certainly what we saw today, judge jackson said that you appear to be sorry that you got caught, and that remorse did not move the needle much. what certainly certainly did not
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help his case is he is guilty of witness tampering. essentially speaking to witnesses, trying to craft their testimony while he was under house arrest, underwrote, and -- under oath, and that does not make a compelling case for remorse. brent: there is still the chance that president trump could pardon manafort, but now he has been charged with mortgage fraud in the state of new york and that changes things, doesn't it? helena: it does indeed. president trump can still pardon mr. manafort for federal crimes, but he cannot pardon him for state crimes. less than one hour after we saw this sentence today, the district court in manhattan then unsealed an envelope of 16 charges against mr. manafort state crimes, accusations of financial fraud, mortgage fraud. and state crimes cannot be pardoned by the president. say president trump were to
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say we can remove these federal crimes against you, mr. manafort can still serve present -- served prison time for the state crimes. it does seem mr. manafort is looking for a presidential pardon. his lawyer has said on various occasions there has been no collusion, and judge jackson admonished that, saying we are not talking about collusion. seems that statement was for an audience of one, the u.s. president, trying to make a plea for that pardon. of course president trump continues to call the investigation a witchhunt. brent: the witchhunt, but still the witchhunt has brought us what we got today, the sentence against manafort. this legal action against manafort is considered part of milestone events for the special counsel robert mueller's investigation. how important was this today, would you say? helena: this is an important moment.
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the legal battle is part of the mueller investigation and this case has been going on for 1.5 years. paul manafort was the first person invited by special counsel robert mueller. that list is now at 34. although this case was not about collusion, what it does show is that significant people in the orbit of the president have close ties to russia. that is what we saw today. and we also saw that people the president chose to work very closely with him are guilty of significant white-collar crime. that is not a good look. perhaps we have become desensitized to the fact that people who have been working with the president are now facing jail time. of course remember mr. cohen also set to go to prison inmate. -- in may. brent: that is a very important point. helena, thank you. an australian court has sentenced a former vatican treasurer to six years in prison. cardinal george pell, who was
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once a close advisor to pope francis, was found guilty of sexually assaulting two choirboys in a cathedral. he is the most senior clergy to be convicted of child sexual abuse. reporter: a satanic priest. that is how protesters outside melbourne's courthouse view cardinal george pell, seen here arriving from jail from -- for sentencing. the judge handed him down a six year prison term. >> you may have thought you could control the situation by reason of your authority as archbishop, whether or not that belief was well-founded. such a state of mind would have been extraordinarily arrogant, but the offending the jury has found you engaged in, was in any view, breathtakingly arrogant. reporter: in december, the court found pell guilty of sexually abusing two 13-year-old boys in 1996. one of them later died of a heroin overdose. pell, meanwhile, rose through the ranks of the vatican,
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attaining its third-highest position. he maintains his innocence and plans to appeal the verdict. a lawyer for the surviving victim read a statement. >> i appreciate that the court has acknowledged what was inflicted upon me as a child. however, there is no r rest for me. reporter: in the fe e of widespread public outrage, the vatican has launched an internal investstigation, but refuses to comment on the case until the appeal process is finished. brent: the united states has joined other nations and grounding boeing's 737 max planes following sunday's crash in ethiopia. u.s. president donald trump's announcement marked a significant u-turn from regulators who maintained they had no data to show the jets are unsafe. the decision came hours after canada joined 30 other countries and boning the -- banning the
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max from its airspace is. trump had this to say. >> any plane currently in the air will go to its desestination and thereafter be grounded until further notice. so, planes that are in the air will be grounded if they are the 737 max. they will be grounded upon landing at the destination. pilots have been notified. airlines have all been notified. airlines are agreeing with us. the safety of the american people and all people is our paramount concern. our hearts go out to all of those who lost loved ones. to their friends, to their families, in both the ethiopian and the lion air crashes that involved the 737 max aircraft. brent: that was u.s. president donald trump. we p pull in an aviation expert joining us from cambridge in the u.k.
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it is good to see you again. what do you make up with the u.s. president did today? i ask that because the wall street journal is reporting that the software updates and improvements for the max were supposed to have been delivered worldwide, but that was delayed by the u.s. government shut down that we saw earlier this year. now you have the president taking action today. do you see politics bleeding into the business of aviaiation safetyty in the e u.s.? guest: welel when you u deal wih prpresident trurump, it is a ala very strange dichotomy. my information that boeing corporation actually asked d for this ban to be put in place and they made a direct appeal to the president. that is what i am hearing. because they are unhappy with the worldwide publicity it has been given. clearly this is the very early
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stage of the i investigation ino ththe ethiopian situation. i also have noose tonight -- news tononight that this particular aircraft, the o one that crashed, had a problem with its r readings. you can find it on flight radar if you go through the data. brent: there are also reports that pilots have registered complaints about the way the boeing 737 performed. they knew that there'd could be a problem but it was not listened to by boeing. do y you know anything about t ? julian: yes,, this is what i am going g to come onto. i will have to o refer to notes here, because that is complex, buququite simpmply on march 77 t 20:54 hours, it was rececorded
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that the plane was f flying at 0 knots, then it went down to 100 knots, then back up to 300 knots, all in the space of 5.5 minutes. this was on a glide path when it is due to land. this is a flight to tel aviv. you can l look up the datata ont and you can see it is an amazing situation because it is impossible. that cannot be right. it cannot go from 200 -- 400 knots,s, to 100 knonots, back t0 knots. sosomeone will have to expxplain that one because it is a physicalmpmpossibility. the pipilots arere right. ththere are problems with t this aircraft and it is not j just confined to the stall prevention software that we mentioned last night. brent: aviationn e expert juliln bray joining us tonight from cambridge. as always, we appreciate your
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insights. thank you. here's a reminder of the top stories that we are falling for you. u.k. lawmakers have backed a motion to rule out a no-deal brexit. they will now vote tomorrow on whether to request an extension from the european union on the u.k.'s departure date which is currently just 16 days away. it is a fresh blow to the authority of prime minister theresa may. after a short break i will be back to take you through the day "the day." we will have extensive coverage on today's brexit vote. ♪ [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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to take those opportunities. yes point of order mister henry bad thank you very much mister speaker notwithstanding what the promises just told the house. the time has come for two things to take place the first is for the government. to respect the democratic construction of the house. since the prime minister says we have to be in favor of something and i agree with. is for the government to facilitate. the house of commons having the chance to vote on a series of indicative. yeah so o that we cacan attempto see. whether we can find a way forward and i very much welcomee if iay
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