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♪ amy: from new york, this is democracy now!. >> i think everyone who has been out on the front lines, everyone who has been screaming pantaleo because now he's fired. and for, you know,w, commission o'neill, i thank you for doing the right thing. i truly sincerely thank you for firing the officer. regardless however you came up to your decision, you finally made a decision that should
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have been made five years ago. amy: daniel pantaleo, the police officer who killed eric garner in 2014 by using an illegal chokehold has been fired. five years after pantaleo held garner, an unarmed african-american man in a chokehold until he dropped to the ground. garner gasping, i can't breathe 11 times. we'll speak with his daughter, emerald garner. then to portland, oregon, where hundreds of members of the proud boys, and other right wing groups rallied in the streets this past weekend and were escorted by police and outnumbered by counterprotesters. >> we absolutely reject terrorism, anti-facists are not anti-terrorists. we stand up for our community and defend it from people who want to do our community great harm. amy: we'll get response from rlede commissioner joe ann
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hardesty and shane burly who covered the protest, author of "facism today, what it is and how to end it." and in afghanistan, a series of bomb attacks rocked the country that markeked 100 years of independence from british rule. >> i was in the city to celebrate independence day when i heard a big sound of a blast. i saw several people who were injured. amy: the attacks came as the u.s. and taliban are reportedly close to a peace deal after months of talks that include plans for u.s. troop withdrawal. we'll go to kabul to speak with the head of the news. all that and more coming up. [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. jeremy pantaleo who used a illegal chokehold and killed a man has been fired. james o'neill announceded his decision monday just over five years after the killing which sparked nationwide outrage. daniel pantaleo used the banned
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check hold on the unarmed african-american eric garner until he dropped to the ground, gasping, "can't breathe" 11 times and pantaleo remained on desk jury and a new york grand jury decided in 2014 not to charge him and last month the justice department said he will not face federal charges. earlier this month the police administrative judge found the officer guilty of violating the new york police department ban on choke holds and recommended he be fired. this is garner's mother, gwen carr, speaking outside police headquarters. gwen: i'm still out here and out here for the long run. you come out here against me, i'm out here. and you cannot scare me away. yeah, pantaleo, you may have st your job but i lost a son january -- i'm sorry, july 17, 2014. i lost my son. you cannot replace that. you can get another job.
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amy: we'll be joined by eric garner's youngest daughter emerald garner after headlines. planned parenthood has withdrawn from title 10, the federal program that funds family planning services for millions of low income people as they refuse to comply with trump administration ban on abortion referrals. planned parenthood received $60 million per year on title 10 and the move could exactly 1.5 million a year who access birth control and other health services through the organization. in some states planned parenthood serves all or nearly low income patients who benefit from title 10. the so-called trump administration gag order is being legally challenged by planned parenthood in over 20 states. a federal court ruled last month the change can still take effect while the lawsuits are pending. acting president of planned parenthood alexis johnson said in a statement, congress must act now, it's time for the u.s. senate to pass a spending bill that will reverse the harmful rule and restore access to birth control, s.t.d. testing
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and other services to people of low incomes, people's lives depend on it, she said. the united states has tested a ground launch medium range cruise missile weeks after trump formally withdrew from the i.n.f. treaty. such a test would have been banned under the i.n.f. russia today condemned the test and said the u.s. is increasing, quote, the destabilizing potential of the situation. meanwhile, an international arms control official said four russssian nuclear monitoring stations went silent following a mysterious blast almost two weeks ago off russia's northern coast. u.s. experts suspect i it was a test o of a nuclear powered cruise missile. seven people, mostly nuclear scientists, are believed to have died in the explosion which caused a radiation spike in the surrounding area and possibly as far as scandinavia, fueling concerns over renewed nuclear arms race between the
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u.s. and russia. deposed sudanese president omar al bash ir's trial started monday and he received $90 million from saudi arabia which included $25 million from crown bin salmand. he is accused of accepting gifts. the disgraced president admitted accepting the money from the saudi royal family but could not remember details how it was exchanged or spent. in addition to his corruption trial bashir is charged with ordering the killing of people and war crimes. it started two days after the transition military council of the opposition signed a power sharing deal which paves the way for democratic elections in a transition to civilian government. omar bashir was asked in april after months of popular protests. in el salvador, a 21-year-old rape survivor who is being retried on aggravated homicide charges after having a still
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born in 2016 has been acquitted. in el salvador abortion is illegal and the court sentenced evelyn hernandez 30 years in prison in 2017 and the conviction was later annulled before heading back to trial earlier this month. this is evelyn hernandez speaking after her acquittal. >> i know it's been tough all this time being in the courtroom and seeing how i was being accused of something i was innocent of. and i also ask there are many women who are stilll locked up and i call for them to be freed soon, too. amy: twitter and facacebook removed close to 1,000 accccoun that were believed to be linked to the chinese government and spreading misinformation, quote, selling political discord around protests in hong kong. twitter will no longer publish ads from state controlled media outlets in order to protectct healthy discourse and open conversation. nine 2020 presidential candidates are in sioux city,
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iowa to participate in the first presidential forum on native american issues. on monday senator elizabethth warren issued an apology to native american communities. elizabeth: i know that i have made mistakes. i am sorry for harm i have caused. i have listened and i i have leararned a lot, and i am grateful for the many conversations that we've had together. it is a great honor to be able to partner with indian country, and t that's what i've tried to do as a senator and that's what i promise i will do as president ofof the united state of america. amy: senator e ezabeth warren came under fire last year after she releasased the results of a d.n.a. test as evidence of her native american ancestry. ahead of the forum, she unveiled her honoring and empowering tribal nations and indigenous peoples plan, including expanding housing and
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health care in indigenous communities, expanding broadband access, strengthening voting rights and restoring tribal jurisdiction over crimes committed on naval land and a pledge to vote the keystone and dakota pipeline permits. more 2020 presidential candidates including bernie sanders, kamla harris and julian castro who last month introduced the own plan to bolster indigenous rights are appearing in the forum today. the standing rock sioux tribe asked a federal court in washington, d.c. friday to halt operations of the dakota access pipeline until a full environmental assessment is completed. the army corps of e engineers issued an easement in 2017 allowing for the construction of dapl despite widespread protested that garnered international support. the court found the easement violated the law and remanded the issue back to the army corps which the sioux tribe said conducted a sham process in order to go ahead with construction.
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meanwhile the company behind the pipeline dakota access llc owned by energy transfer partner is planning to expand the operations doubling the amount of oil it transports from 570,000 to 1.1 million barrels per day. the standing rock sioux tribe is calling on the officials to hold a public hearing and properly evaluate the risk of the e pipeline expansision to t tribe and enenvironment. vermont senator bernie sanders unveiled his plan to help with the racial and broken justice system sunday. the 2020 hopeful wants to end profiteeeering in the criminal justice system and plans to ban cash bail and legalize marijuana and apolish the death penalty, boost funding for public defenders, increase accountability f for law enforcement, stop criminalization of homelessness and addiction and allow prisoners and 240es with felony convictionons to vote among man measasures. he announced t the p plan while cacampaigning in south carolina.
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congressman omar r and tlaib he a news conference in st. paul, minnesota to address israel decision to bar them from enteriring the country. israel later granted permissssi for tlaib to visisit her family on humanitarian grounds but we geneticed the offer to include the position she notot boycott the sanctionss movement. congress member omar blasted netanyahu for trying to suppress oppositition to the israeli occupation as well as the duties to perform their job. this is congress member tlaib speaking about h her 90-year-ol grandmother who lives in the west bank. >> all i can do a as her granddaughter isis help humaniz her and the palestinian people's plight. i know t that when wee can fina see them as deserving of human dignity, everyone who lives there will be able to live in peace. it is unfnfortunate thahat prim mininister netanyahuhu has apparently takenen a page out o trumump's book, even direction from trump to deny this
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opportunity. amy: in immigration news, the ninth circuit court of appeals friday partially rolled back an injucks blocking the trump administration's ban on most asylum seekers seeeeking refuge at the u.s.-mexico border. the court determined u.s. district judge john tigar applied an overly broad injucks last month by blocking the pollinationwide. the new ruling means that trump'p's ban canan now go ahea the border states of new mexico and texas, which are outside of the ninth circuit jurisdiction. the ruling upholds the injunction in california and arizona, dissenting jage wallace said the majority decision will create confusion in the border and the courts, writing, quote, should asylum law be administered differently in texas than in california? new york prosecutors on monday moved to dismiss the sex trafficking charges against
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jeffrey epstein following his death but vowed to continue seeking justice for survivors of his abuse by investigating his co-conspirators. this came as attorney general william barr removed the nation's top prison official hugh hurwitz. meanwhile, newport documents show epstein signed a will two days before his death. e left behind a $577 million estate but details have been -- details of the beneficiaries are not known. new york city's medical examiner confirmed friday jeffrey epstein's cause of death was suicide by hanging. the trump administration asked the supreme court friday to legalize the firing of transgender workers. the justice department argued the civil rights act only protects employees from discrimination based on their biological sex. the legal brief was introduced as part of a lawsuit in which a transgender woman was fired
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from a michigan funeral home after she announced plans to transition after six years of employment. the supreme court will hear oral arguments on this and two other cases involving anti-lbgtq workplace discrimination on october 8. aclu attorney chase strangio realized the stakes aren't just to the lbgtq communities but every person who departs from sex stereotypes, women who want to wear pants in the workplace and men who want more childbearing responsibilities. those protections are also in peril, strangio said. tracy single, a 22-year-old transgender woman is believed to be the 15th transgender person and 16th transgender woman killed this year. she was found july 30th in texas but authorities only identified her last week. human rights campaign called for justice for tracy single and said, quote, we will continue to hold the trump administration and all elected officials who fuel the flames of hate accountable at the
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ballot box. this epidemic of violence that targets particularly black transgender women must seek. those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!. democracy now.org, the war and peace report, i'm amy goodman. daniel pantaleo, the police officer who killed eric garner in 2014 by using an illegal chokehold was fired monday and stripped of his pension benefits. the decision came more than five years after pantaleo held garner, an unarmed african-american man, in a chokehold until he dropped to the ground, gasping "i can't breathe" 11 times. despite outcry from the family, pantaleo had remained on the police force on desk duty since the killing. in a dramatic news conference, new york police commissioner james o'neilill announced his decision to finally fire pantaleo. >> in this case t the unintende consequence of mr. garner's death must have a consequence
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of its own. therefore, i agree with the deputy commissioner of trialal' legal finding and rerecommendations and clear tha daniel pantaleo no longer can effectively serve as a new york city police officer. in carrying out the court's verdict in this case, i take no pleasure. i know that many will disagree with this decision and that is their right. there are absolutely no victors here today, not the garner family, not the community at large and certaininly not the courageous men and women of the police d department who put the own lives on the line every singlele day in service to the people of this grereat city. amy: police commissioner o'neill's firing of pantaleo comes two weeks after an administrative judge found him guilty of violating a department ban on chokeholds. until monday pantaleo remained on the police force on desk jury and the judge decided not to charge e him, last month on the fifth anniversary of garner's death, the justice
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department declined to charge pantaleo with a crime despite calls by the garner family and their supporters that the city punish him and other officers involved. over the years, garner's case helped drive the black lives matter movement for police accountability. at a rally outside police headquarters, eric garner's mother gwen carr vowed to fight appeals stewart london plans to file and called on the new york city police department to fire the other officers involved in garner's case. >> it's just disheartening to go through this. like we said, we're not finishshed. we havave other offfficers we h to goo afterer. you haveve heard the names. we know the wrongdoing that they have done. show the pictures, say the name, do the roll call because they all need to lose their jobs. new york is not safe with officers out here like that. amy: that was eric garner's mother speaking monday.
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for more we're joined by his youngest daughter, emerald garner. welcome to democracy now!. emerald: good morning. amy: it can never be said enough, our condolences on the death of your dad. emerald: thank you. amy: your response to what happened yesterday the firing of pantaleo? emerald: it somewhat puts our family at ease though it took five years. it's like, you know, it should have happened a long time ago but we're grateful it has happened now, that finally someone sees what we see. amy: so he has been fired but he has not been charged with a crime. can you talk about what this means? emerald: well, for me this means that if we follow the proper channels, we can have the case reopened and he'll be tried as a civilian and not as a police officer. amy: explain what you mean. emerald: meaning in this process you have the union who would represent him, his union reps and everything.
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but when you're not a police officer anymore, you don't have union reps, you're a regular new york city civilian just like everyone else, so he should be chargeded as someone who wasn't wearing the shield would be charged if they would have murdered eric garner. amy: i want to ask you about the new york police department judge who recommended pantaleo be fired, saying he was untruthful in the account of eric garner's death was implausible and self-serving. emerald: absolutely. all the testimony was a bunch of lies, what they said on october 17 was not what she said at the ccrb trial. i do believe if the ccrb trial never happened we would never know a part of the investigation, the text messages and basically the cover-up. amy: i want to turn to the mayor of new york city. i want to turn to bill de blasio speaking yesterday now as a democratic presidential candidate resesponding to the
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firing of pantaleo. >> we must devote oururselves t this simple goal that noo person, , no family, no communi should ever go through the agony that t we've all experirienced here over these lastst years. it should never happen again in this city or this country. as the only goal thatat is acceptable, let this be the last tragedy. amy: emerald, your response to the mayor? emerald: mayor de blasio, i think that we have a lot of work to do. i still will feel like -- i'm forever going to feel like he had the powower to fire the cop from day one. all of this is just thehe after effect. we have been asking for him to be fired for five years and mayor de blasio had the power toto do that a and he chose not amy: he says he had to wait for this investigation. he says he had to wait first
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for the justice department to bring charges and then for the police department within t thei own department to make a decision. emerald: i feel like people have choices. i would like to see the proof and see a document that said you had to wait for the federal judge to do what they were supposed to do. amy: let me go to patrick lynch, the head of new york's police union condemning the decision to fire officer pantaleo. he spoke at the news conference monday whehere he stood in fron of an upside down nypd flag. >> it't's absolutely essential that the world know that the new york city police department is rudderless and frozen. the leadership has abandoned ship and left our police officers on the street. alone. without backing. there is no confidence, no confidence in the leaeadership city hall and one police plaza.
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we are following up that with a call to the governor to have the mayor removed from office for malfeasance and nonfeesance. he abandoned his post and refuses to do his job and has joined the anti-police rhetoric that we already know got two police officers s killed. now has caused the street to disrespect our uniform and the women and men wewearing it.t. amy:y:hat's patrtrick lynch, he of new york's police union. your response. emerald: so he's saying that de blasio left the police officers out on the street alone. eric garner was left on the street to die. and that's on video. they're saying the mayor abandoned them and they're so angry that a police officer broke the rules and got
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penalized for it, that's really what thehe problem is. the problem is they never thought in a million years this cop would be fired because of a black man and i think that's honestly what they thought and the fact he is fired m makes th upset. it's like we've been getting away with it for so long so who are you to tell us to stop doing what we're doing. that's how i take the whole conversation. a wrong wawas done. at some point you have to stop and say eric garner was killed for no reason. he could have been saved. they neglected to save him. amy: you've been pushing for eric garner's law. what is that? emerald: basically banning the chokehold and any terminology used to describe anything other than a chokehold. so what was basically said there in the trial was it was a seat belt maneuver or seat belt technique. a chokehold is a chokehold. you can't call it anything than a chokehold. the medical examiner ruled it a chokehold and the judge basically said a chokehold. the press conference london did
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after the judge made the ruling, he called it a chokehold. he took it back but he left field said it. he said chokehold -- i mean seat belt remover. he called it a chokehold himself and they know exactly it is a hoch hold and the ericc garner law will put in place federally and locally you'll be banned from using a chokehold and if you are you'll be immediately prosecuted. amy: your family has been fighting for justice since the day eric garner was taken down in this chokehold on july 17, five years ago. we came up in the elevator together and i was looking at your t-shirt which is a picture of your older sister, erika. emerald: she's not here to see this. amy: erica sat in that seat where you are a number of times. emerald: you reached out to me and i'm like that's erica's place. that's her place at home and she was not here to see this. it's important for me to make
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sure people remember she's a real warrior for justice. he's a real lioness of the family. she's the one that led the charge and because of erica the ccrb even had a trial because she was pushing for it so hard. amy: the civilian complaint review board. erica died in 2017 after an asthma induced heart attack four months after giving birth to her second child, your nephew. and there's a picture of him on the back. emerald: the children are on the back, now 10-year-old and soon to be 2-year-old. he'll be 2 on sunday. amy: i wanted to go to erica, then 27 years old speaking on democracy now! in 2016. erica: i protested, spoke on panels and traveled across this nation, i endorsed all avenues. i even endorsed bernie sanders to get my message out. and it's like we keep having the conversation. i exhausted it for two years
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and you know how much talking do we need to have if the black lives matter movement, very compassionate, patient, and basically begging the nation, you know. we are under attack as black people. we are being gunned down every day and the officers not being held accountable. d no charges from rice to my dad to freddie gray. amy: that's erica garner, 27 years old. emerald, i know it's hard to contain yourself watching your sister. emerald:d: yeah. amy: you are 27 now. emererald: i'll be 27 in december. amy: can you talk about the journey your family has been on since the horror that day in thaten island when the police killed your father? emerald: it's beeeen superhard between interviews and going
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out to speak and stuff like that, you're reliving the moment multitie times and doing it over and over and over again. at one point i said i'm traumatizing myself over and over again by talking about it but then i realized if i don't talk about it no one is going to know about it. people don't foe about the things you don't talk about. i think it's great, you know, a lot of people are talking about it, keeping up the momentum. it's hard to -- people forget, like, you know, there was a point the cameras went away and all the protests and everything didn't happen. i'm still a human being and dealing with the loss of mymy father and my father's stepfather. item just losses all around. it's like sometimes, you know, when am i going to stop taking losses? and i feel like we didn't take a loss when commissioner o'neill dececided to fire pantaleo. i feel like we got the w
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instead of the r. amy: what about the other officers involved with that moment, the kitting -- killing of your father? emerald: we'll be seeking the same process, having the ccrb bring up a trial against those officers and bring up evidence from their testimonies and their statements from the day they pretty much killed my father, and allowed to let him be killed. amy: and your message to mayor de blasio? emerald: i don't thinknk i even have any more messages for mayor de blasio. because at this point, you dropped the ball it. there's no getting around it. you absolutely dropped the ball. amy: the last presidential debate people protested in the debate hall in detroit. emerald: yes. i was very happy and blowing up. did you hear your father's name is being called at the debate?
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did you hear them fire pantaleo? and i feel like that made a stand because i'm one person. i can't be everywhere. so if someone else can go makek some noise, i'm happy for her a lot. i'm only one person. amy: you'r're one person who ha done an n enormous amount and would have made your older sister erica garner so proud. i want to thank you for being with us, emerald garner, daughter of the statin resident who was killed five years ago this summer by new york city police officers. daniel pantaleo, the police officer who killed garner by using an illegal chokehold was fired monday and stripped of his pension benefits. when we come back k we go to portland, , oregon, where h hun of right wingng proteststers rallied in the streets and were escorted by police and outnumbered by counterprotesters. stay with us.
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♪ amy: ♪ i can't breathe" sung by erica's speaker. hundred of protesters took to portland oregon for what they dubbed the end terrorism rally. they were outnumbered by counterprotesters as police escorted the proud boys, patriot prayer be and other groups across the city's main bridges. portland police drew on local state, federal law enforcement to put more than 700 officers on patrol. more than one cop for every two of the estimated 1,200 protesters. police arrested 13 people throughout the day, seized weapons but largely avoided the worst case scenario, portland mayor ted wheeler said the department was prepared for. trump tweeted major consideration is being given to naming an tearfula an organization of terror --
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antifa organization of terror. hopefully the mayor will be able to properly do his job, the president tweeted. one of the far right organizers, joe biggs, told the reporter the event was a success. biggs said, quote, go look at president trump's tritter -- twitter. he talked about portland and said he was watching antifa. we wanted national attention and got it, mission success biggs said. this is a pose person speaking at saturday's dueling protests. >> we absolutely reject the label of terrorism. anti-facists are not terrorists, we stand up and defend our community from whose who want to do it great arm. amy: some politicians called for antifa to be recognized as a terror organization. a memo fromm the tampa bay t ti sites antifa as a group responsible for gun violence despite zero deaths attribubute to the prorotesters. they found the majority of
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domesticicerror in t the united states is caused by white stream cysts. for more we go to portland, oregon, joined by the commissioner joe ann hardesty, the first african-american woman on the portland city council this year and joined by shane burly, a freelance journalist and filmmaker, author of "facism today, what it is and how to end it." we welcome you both t to democracy now!, commissioner hardesty, talklk about what happened this weekend and what's happening in the streets of portland, how the proud boys were dealt with and also president trump's tweet, he going after the counterprotesters to the white supremacists. jo ann: good morning, amy. thank you so much for having me on. i think what we saw on saturday that portlanders from all walks of life showed up to stand up against white supremacists and white nationalists. the mayor created a coalition of over 100 individuals and
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organizations that had a press conference wednesday t that sai we were going to draw a line in the sand that basically said we're not allowing white supremacists to take over our streets. they've been coming to portland because they don't like the fact that portland is a liberal city that values all individuals, and we are a sanctuary city. i monitored the protests from 9:30 a.m. until abobout 6:30 p. from the command center. and what i can tell you is that law enforcement and community members for the most part operated professionally and people did what they do. either people came out with protest signs and there were those who refused to serve white supremacists. businesses shut down but paid their employees because of concern about violence breaking out. i am one of the biggest critics of the portland police bureau. but i can tell you in this
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particular case, they used a lot of restraint. and i'm so proud of my community not actually giving in to hate, not giving in to do business activity even from the president of the united states. let me be clear, the people who showed up on saturday wanted to make a strong message that they were not going to allow white supremacists to take over ouour community. amy: what did y you make of t t city police escort for the proud boys, the patriot prayer and other right wing groups across one of portland's main bridges where similar protective services offered to an tearfula the counterprotesters? jo ann: amy, let me clarify that. thank fofor you thatat question. what porortland police did w wa make a tactical decision. so 45 minutes into the protest, ththe proud boys contacted the police and said they were ready to leave because, quite franankly, they were so
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outnumbebered. they wananted to get out of tow and so because e we'd already closed off the hawthorne bridgege, it was the best way t get them back to their automobiles s so we could gogo of town. what we didn't't want is ththe counterprotest tors and white supremeists meet up in any form. that was a good decision made by the police. the police didn't escort them but just made it available for them to be able to utilize the bridge to get back to their automobiles so they could go back to vancouver or wherever else they came from. amy: shane burly, you were out there covering the protests. you're also an author of the book "facism today" what it is and how to end it. if you could talk about what you witnessed, the protests, the counterprotests, and who was there and who the proud boys are.
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shane: yeah, the proud boys are a far rightt street gagang that have b been taking ththe street all around the country, having these kind of trumpet events focused on demonizing immimigrants a and propping up gegender roles and basically victimizing those who protest them andnd have been comoming t portland almost monthly the last three years to stage these vague political events where they end u up stagingng a reall brutal gang style attacks on counterprotesters. this time they were coming out to bang the trum, though an tearfula is responsible for killing no one and killed d for -- chargrged with killing other people. and they brought 300 people that mounted to a flash protest and were there 30 or 40 minutes and ran out of town. on thehe other side abouout a thousand counterdemonstrators built a really large coalition of groups including labor coalitions and the naacp and anti-facist groups and had a large event in the park and
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this was able to kind of bridge a lot of people in the community and bring a lot of people out and completely outnumber the proud boys and shift the dynamic of the day. amy: t talk aboutt also patriot prayer. shanane: patriot prayeyer is a right group that's from portland, at least the portland area and they've been staging kind of right-wing protests the last few years and usually bring on a large amount of counterdemonstrators because they played well with anti-white groups and b basical getting security from the proud boys. this started as kind of pro trump rallieses with really dee anti-emgrant rhetoric c and transphobic rhetoric and all kinds of bigoted speeches and turned into a much more militatant oririly asia style, looking to protesterers to find clashes wherever they can and victimize people on the street and has been responsible for dozens of acts of violence on
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the city and furious swris for counterprotesters and outside the realm. people have been worried about patriot prayer including one of their attendees killed two people on a portland train two years ago. it's a long string of violence from the proud boys who essentially waged siege on the city. amy: if you could tell us who biggs is. shane: joe biggs is s a former correspondent anand in r realit has been this kind of right wing internet celebrity and drums up fear and the rhetoric the groups are known for and responsible for anything about antifa and will post videos or photos talking about how we need to murder antififa u using support for pinochet and the murder of communists or dissidents and drumming up a climate of explosive anger and
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using incidents to frame them and s say a anti-facicists, tho defending against violence or ththe perpetuators and the peop receiving the violence are upon. it's a intentional way of painting victims as perpetuators and that's how he filled a career. amy: give us the history of antifa. kellyanne conra said antifa is short for anti-first apartment shame. shane:e: it means anti-facist a this goes back decades and they come out and crereate protesest movements anand use a speart of tactics and stratategies to defend against far right groups. the proud boys left on their own devices on the fact they're gogoing to threaten pepeople an essentially lay siege with political violence on an area. anti-facist protesters on the counterside is a creative defensive situation, blocks from moving around the city and blocked from the marginalized
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folks and create a countermovement to what the goals of the far right groups are. amy: joe ann, i wanted to ask you about trump's tweet and his response to what was going on in portland and the whole push to call an tearfula a terror organization, to categorize it as such. jo ann: that was very problematic to have the president tweet out his message the morning of the protests. we were already preparing for the worse case scenario and it was very unhelpful to have the president jumping in to the hetoric about an tearfula -- antifa and quite frankly antifa has not been the problem in portland but it has been proud boys and white supremacists sending out messages all over the country encouraging other white nationalists and white supremacists to o come to portland and beat up on n
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cocommunity members. that's pretttty appalling and what w wve learneded the last t years in these protests isis we have to be very strategic. there's always a mixed message about who you shohould show up prototests? andd i r remind people if we didn't show up at protests to fight back against white nationalists or supremacist activity i would not be a portland commissioner today. if we just assumed the laws are the laws and there's nothing we can do, we would anot have had the social justice movement we've had in this time over the country or again has a history of sprite supremacy. we were born as a whide homeland. that's how oregon got s started. so we havav our own h home grow white stream cyst bubut people a nationonal change encocouragi those to create violence in the community, that's when the community must stand up and draw a line in the sand and say
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no way. again, the difference this time between some of the other protests we had is that there were clearer lines of command, who was in charge and who was making decisions about who would move where. and there was enough law enforcement and community members willing to depe escalate situations as they arose and that was one of the things i was thrilled about. it's unhelpful to have the president or anybody else encouraging people -- mimislabeling antifa as the problem when the problem is really white seem m cysts tryin to take over our streets. amy: i wanted to ask you what happened to andy ngo in june. he called for antifa to be labeled as terrorists saying he was attacked by them when covering one of theirir demonstrations. this is him speaking to "the wall street journal."
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andy: antfa is a paramilitary movement made up of extremists, violence, communists who want a political revolution. on june 29 i was covering their demonstration as a journalist. as a mob they swarmed and attacked me, completely unprovoked on my part and went for my head, my face, my eyes with their fists and weapons. and this attack happened in front of the county justice center where the sheriff's office and police precinct is but no police came to help. amy: jack then called andy ngo the most dangerous drifter in america. shane burly, can you explain who he is and what happened to him? shane:e: andyy ngo is essential editor for "colette" magazine, a far right provocateur and his
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writing credits seem to be playing a victim their resist being under attttack or paintin islam phobic rhetorics and punching down as much as possible. hehe'd been well known for como out to these rallies, filming people, getting uncomfortablely close and filming things generally people think is inappropriate and most journalists don't do. on june 29 there was another anti-facist rally whehere patriots prayer decided to have a protest andd got in trouble and journalists shouldn't be under attack and why particularly andy ngogo. but violating the precepts of what journalist him is and dealing withth the community a reframing factual events in a totally strange way, for example the way he portrayeyed events happeningng saturday as being one of essentially mass antifa violence when that is s actually t o opposite ofof the case and u usually is the opposite of the e case but he
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worked really hard to drum up the fear of antifa a and helps get hihim a lot inn donations after his attack and it's really helped build up this right wing media fear that builds a mrp simply out of outrage. amy: commissioner joe ann hardestyty, a popular sentiment online this weekend in response to trump, no government will declare itself facist but will declare a anti-facist enemies o the people. how does your city move forward right now? jo ann: well, i want to make sure that our city really understands that anybody who stands up against white supremacists and hate groups who intentionally come to our town to create fear and attack our community members will not be acceptable.e. antifa is a no way in my opinion a hate group. it's not even an organized -- it's not even a membership organization, it is peoeople fr
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all walks of life who stand up to white supremacists and w whi nationalist activity. what i hope our city has learned from this weekend is that when we come together, even if we don't agree on a a whole bunch of stuff normally, when we come together and stand up against hate groups and stand up against t people comin in andnd trying to take over ou streets, they leave, they understand that we're not going to accept that. and what i also want to make sure that we do, the f.b.i. says that they are investigating hate groups s but i've heard of like not one group that the f.b.i. hass arreststed that is a white nationalist or white supremacist organization when we were trying to pull o o of the joint terrorism task force, the f.b.i.'s argument to why we couldn't pull out is because they were fighting these white supremacist organizations. and again, we have a history of white stream cyst organizations in oregon but not once has thee f.b.i. stepped in and
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intervened to protect community members. so what we know is that we have to protect our community. we are the community and we saw people do it in a whole bunch of different way this is saturday. amy: i want to thank you both for being with us, city commissioner jo ann hardesty, the first african-american woman on the portland city council. shane burly, freelance journalist, author of "facism today, what it is and how to end it. when we come back we go to kabul a afghanistan. a series of bomb attacks rocked the eastern city of jalabad, two days after a bloody sue i'd bombing at a weding in kabul killed 63 people and we'll speak witith the news director. stay with us. >> ♪ when they pour another cross the border i was cautioned to surrender which i could n not do ♪ ♪ i took my gun and vanished ♪
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i have changed my name so often i lost my wife and children but i have many friend ♪ ♪ and some of them are with me an o old woman gave us shelter ♪ amy: the partisans by leonard cohen. this is democracy now!. i'm amy goooodman. we t turn to afghghistan wherer bomb rocked d spaces monday in the eastern city of jalabad, injuring at least 66 people. the explosions came as afghanistan marks 100 years of independence from british rule. they followed saturday's bloody suicide bombing at a weding in kabul that killed 63 people, wounding 200 others. the attack claimed by isis was the deadliest this year in
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afghanistan. this is the groom from the wedding. [speaking foreign language] >> i've lost hope. i lost my brother and friends who came to join my wedding party. the celebration of independence day does not matter to me anymorore. i don't carare whether the government is going to light up the city. it's the independence night and dedicated only to the rich people who celebrate it. all those killed werere laborer and popoor p people attending t ceremony. rich people do not come to participate in poor people's ceremonies. amy: the attack came as the u.s. and taliban are reportedly close to a peace deal after months of talks between the two parties. the african government, however, has not been a party to these negotiations. afghanistan is due to hold elections next month. top issues on the talks include u.s. troop withdrawal. for more we're going to kabul, afghanistan, where we're joined by lotfullah najafizada, the news director of tolo news, a 24 hour news channel balesed in
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kabul. thanks for joining us. can you start by talking about the horror this weekend in kabul. "the new york times" headline, one minute it was an afghan wedding with the next a funeral or 63. lotfullah: amy, this was a very tragic incident in afghanistan, in kabul in particular. we never had such a horrific attack in the capital in the past. when a suicide bomomber walks into a wedding ceremony, as the groom said, very poor people detonating explosives and killing scores of people. the goverernment confirmeded at lelet 63 but wewe believe it's certainly more than that, probably around 100 civilians lost their lives and about 200 more are wounded, some of them very, very critical. this comes at a very critical time. we're in the midst of negotiations between the u.s.
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for. and the taliban and we expect afghan government to begin its own negotiations with the aliban and statement afghanistan in your introduction will have the next presidential election scheduled for next month. amy: so also talk about what happened in eastern afghanistan in jalalabad. and talk about who is responsible for these attacks, the suicide bombing that turned this weding into a funeral and hat's happened in jalalabad. lotfullah: to be honest with you, we don't know. a group claimed responsibility in a fashion that's not transparent and certainly not verifiable. also in jalalabad yesterday there were rockets coming and a lot of people were wounded there and the celebration for the independence day was
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disrupted. also the attack in kabul a couple days earlier was apparently claimed by isis but it is very, very difficult to say why this attack was carried out, why they have this animosity with the ordinary people of afghanistan which the group said in his interview, there was no official death, no known target which can be well, quote, unquote, a legitimate target for terrorist groups. amy: talk about this, the backdrop of this, the negotiations going on between the united states and the taliban. not including the afghan government. these are called peace talks. you've been following these closely. tell us where you were and what is happening in these talks. they are not getting a lot of ttention in the united states.
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lotfullah: the u.s. government has been engaged in direct discussions with the taliban for the past 9-10 months and includes at least eight rounds of serious negotiations in doha led on the u.s. side by a group of taliban representatives who reside in doha. the taliban and the u.s. believe that this will lead into direct negotiations between the taliban and members of the government as well as the larger afghan society who are living under the islamic republic flag today, so we expect that negotiation to begin very soon. some reports suggest it might be also in norway and that's still to be seen so what we expect in the next week or so, an announcement where the u.s. and the taliban finalize their
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first phase of negotiations, and the u.s. and afghan government to announce a joint declaration in which they will welcome and support the u.s. initiative and begin the direct talks with the taliban. amy: and the significance of the afghan government not being included in these talks? lotfullah: the argument from the u.s. side, as we have heard so many times, is that the taliban preferred to resolve their issues with the u.s. first and then engauge with the afghan government and the broader afghan society. some people, including the afghan government, of course, wanted to begin their negotiations with the taliban in parallel to the u.s. negotiations, or some groups prefer that they should talk to the afghan government and the afghan political groups first
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and then the two of them together should talk to the u.s. i think it's just a matter of how you approach the peace process and as long as it gets afghanistan to a sustainable peace, i think the sequencing can be understood. but i think it's important that the two tracks, the u.s. taliban, the u.s. -- the taliban and the african government and afghan political parties and the larger society, including some of the media, women's rights, of course, they all come to a final agreement in which afghanistan will hopefully see peace after four decades of senseless violence. amy: and the news that the trump administration may withdraw thousands of u.s. troops in exchange for a cease-fire, lotfullah? lotfullah: that's what the
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taliban says. they say this is a obstacle, the u.s. president has an obstacle and a precondition to talk to the afghan government and afghan political groups and apparently there is no official , of course, announcement. we still expect what the final announcement from the u.s. government and the talibiban would be on the posture of foreign forces in afghanistan, but we've also heard reports this might include reduction of u.s. forces in the c country. amy: and the significance of the elections that are coming up next month. lotfullah: yes. quite important. i think afghanistan's democratic journey began in 2001. wewe've had a couple of nationa elections, presidential elections, as well a couple of parliamentary elections and local elections, of course. i think it's important for afghanistan's democracy to move
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forward and build on the journey that we have began almost two decades ago. amy: and who is runnnning? lotfullah: well, about 18 people are running, including the incumbent president ghani and his coalition partner, chief executive abdullah abdullah and another candidates include a former fugitive as well as someone who fought against this government for the irst 17 years of the post 2001 , and one who joined the peace process is running as a presidential candidate which is quite incredible and chem on straits -- demonstrates how far afghanistan has conand a former natitional intelligent chief, a former spy master, spy chief is also running. so it's very crowded. it's a very interesting scene.
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