♪ >> and opposition leader flees sunday'sests over disputed election in belarus, this as violence continues to rock the country. macro leads a defense video conference on niger and the coronavirus crisis -- emmanuel macron leads a defense videoconference. covid trialsp, shows multiple warnings about explosive material at beirut's

port a week after the deadly blast. with anrnment resigns outraged public demanding accountability. ."lcome back to "france 24 thank you so much for joining us again this afternoon. we start with unrest in belarus thisis tuesday, where the main challenger has fled the country, this after a second night of street clashes between police and opposition supporters. the cocountry has been rocked by violence since election results gave president alexander lukashenko 80%, and svetlana tikhanouskaya has refused to accept it. lukashenko has been president since 1994 and is being dubbed europe's last dictator. >> refusing to concede defeat, former belarusian presidential candidate svetlana tikhanouskaya is now in lithuania, according to the country's foreign

minister. the lithuanian president on meta-expressssed doubts about te election results that precipitated her departure. >> [speaking foreign language] >> tikhanouskaya had been a newcomer to politics, launching her campaign only after authorities jailed her husband, a popular blogger, and banned him from running. her aim was to defeat president lukashenko, a man who rules with an iron fist. he claims to have received over 80% of the vote, a result his opponents denounced as a sham. >> [speaking foreign language] lukashenko's supposedly inside victory has triggereded o consecutive nights of unrest in the capital minsk, with policed firing tear gas, rubber bullets,

and stun grenades at protesters, injuring dozens and detaining thousands. at least one protester is reported to have died in the clashes. the euu and u.s. have expressed concerns, both for the legitimacy of the election and the safefety of protesterers. >> we urge the belarusian government to accept the right to peaceably assemble and to refrain from use of force. >> lukashenko is nicknamed europe's last dictator. notign observers have judged a belarusian election free and fair since he came to power over 25 years ago. major, with --to niger whihich saw bloody violole on sunday. french humanitarian workers were a driver, andman, guided a wildlife reserve. the area is known for its giraffes. a manhunt has been launched for the killers. the country is struggling with incursions by islamists from both nigeria to the south and

mali to the west. emmanuel macron led a videoconference on the west african nation, saying france will strengthen sesecurity measures for its natationals across the sahel region. >> this was the car that belonged to the ngo. it was found southeast of the capital. the driver and the guide were from niger and sixix french humanitarian w workers werere l killed. the group was here to observe drafafts. the army and further -- to observe giraffes. the army and fern six are on-site. thisis man spoke just before the attack to the guide. >> [speaking foreign language] gave a pressan ngo

conference, stressing that employees had not gone to a red zone, the areas which the french government advises against visiting. >> [speaking foreign language] >> french anti-terror prosecutors said they would investigate charges of murders with links to a terrorist enterprise. it is the first attack in this area. the region has attracted tourists for two decades, ever since it became a sanctuary for rare west african giriraffes. most of the jihadis detects in niger take place in the area called the three frontiers. one week from the blasts that wreaked destruction across beirut, the country is still reeling.

lalate monday, in r response to lebanese takining to the s stre, prime minister hassan diab announced the resignation of his government. the admininistration remains until a new capitan is formed. protests have been raging since the explosion, which claimed at least 163 liveses. it is in a country already facing a crushing economic crisis. for more, let's bring in our beirut. from thank you for being with us. you have spent some of today in a neighborhood not so far from the port in beirut. tell us what people have been saying to you this tuesday. >> hello. from that neighborhood in the east of bay ridge come extremely close to the port. you may see behind me just how close we are to the epicenter of that extraordinary explosion. you will be able to see the grain silo, which is absoluteley crucial for bringing food into

lebanon. about 80% of lebanon's grain comes in through the port. and there is already concerned there may be a shortage of bread in lebanon because it is so vital to bring in food to the sport, which is currently completely incapable of doing so. because we're so close to this neighborhood, let me show you a little bit of the destruction here. somebody was in this building here and said he was very lucky to escape with his life. the car was destroyed. the children were nearby and escaped with minor injuries. you can see in this entire neighborhood, there is seemingly no building here untouched by explosion. windows smashed out an entire floors missing from buildings here. both old buildings here and were buildings, as well. >> i would like to shift the focus to the political crisis in the country. as i mentioned earlier, the government has resigned. but does that result in anything palpable at the moment? >> certainly not yet.

as you said, the resignation of this government simply means it will stand place in a kind off caretaker form until a new administration is agreed and voted upon by politicians, and that new government with a new prime minister sworn in. we do not have a timeline. there are suggestions this morning thahat it could take the month, perhaps longer. when it came to the appointment of the last prime minister, it took several months, far longer than three months, and that was without this massive economic and political crisis that lebanon is currently living through. so do not expect any major changes on the political scene in the coming days. that is likely to be an extremely serious sort of -- source of frustration for the protesters who were out yesterday evening, met by tear gas by internal security forces. later today, i suspect we will

see more anger and frustration as the political process stalls. >> thank you for the report from beirut, saying the resignation of the government may not have been enough to appease the country's protesters and angry population after the blasts. also this tuesday, london's immigration minister is due inn paris for furtherr talks on efforts to tackle illegal migration in the channel, and this comes after orest johnson vowed to explore w ways to prevt the crossing. there has been a spike in attempts by migrants to cross the busy shipping route to the english coast on makeshift vessels. here is the report. the british border force intercepts a flimsy boat clearly taking on water. a board, a dozen migrants who decided to brave the busiest shipping channel in the world in the hope of making it to england. over 4100 pepeople have now ma

it to the u.k. this way since january. french authorities say this july they stopped 10 times more crossings than july 2019. >> what is going on is the activity of cruel and criminal gangs who are risking their lives for these people. we want to stop that, working with the french, make sure they understand that this is not a good idea. itit is a very bad and stupid ad dangerous and criminal thing to do. >> johnson adding it was time to reassess the british legal framework that makeses it hard o expel those who do arrive illegally. langnguage immmmediately rejecty refugee charities that insist that trying to claim asylum is not a cri and that the u.k. should be proud to help those in need. >> notot a single flight has coe to the u.k. since march. not a single refugee has been able to arrive to the u.k. because of the suspension o of internrnational travel.

so we would like to see that program restart. >> the u.k. has urged france to do more to prevent migrants embarking on the journey in the first place, but france insists it has already deployed extra resources along its 300 kilometer long coastline and says many boats are being intercepted. nonetheless, it is a mammoth task. >> [speakiking foreign language] >> according to reports in the british press, if france does up patrols, it would be asking the british taxpayer to foot the bill to the tune of some 30 million pounds. w world news, global coronavirus cases have surpassed 20 million. more than half of them from the u.s., india, and brazil. health officials believe the actual number is actually much higher than the tally kept by john hopkins university, given

testing limitations and the fact that as many as 40% of those infected have no symptoms. here in france, experts have warned that the situation is anyile and could change at time to a less controlled scenario likike the one we have seen in spain, for instance. prime minister has announced auckland will go into lockdown again and the rest of the country will go into what they are referring to asas level two. the announcement comes after four cases of community transmission were confirmed after 102 days without any. today new zealand is a country of about 4.8 million, and has recorded 1569 cases and 22 related deaths. that is according to john hopkins. our attention to latin america, which has been ravaged by the deadly coronavirus. in country is badly impacted

the region, including el salvador, which is binding to give immunity parcel to people who have recovered from the disease. continued to climb, and local authorities are launching their own initiatives, a strategy that seems to bebe papaying off. >> taking matters into their own hands, this coronavirus brigade is going door to doorr to flag p ananyone whoho may have contracd the v virus, an initiative welcomed by the locals. >> [speaking foreign language] speaking f foreign language]e] some 40 health workers combed the city looking for clues as to who might be infected with the initiative was set up by local authorities in central el salvador, the

country's second-largest city and the epicenter of itits covid-1919 outbreak. >> [speaking foreign language] >> the team has already identified almost 706 people, and the country's hospitals are there working point, so heaealth experts have nothing b but praie for the initiaiative. >> [speaking foreign language] > the country's doctorss association is disappointed the initiative has not yet been taken up nationally. according to salvadoran authorities, over 560 people have now died after contracting covid-19. although experts fear the e real fifigure could be e much higher. >> to the u.s., there are

reports that j joe biden has interviewed the finalists to be his running mate. among the top commanders, u.s. senator kamala harris of california and former national security advisor susan rice. the democratic presidential candidate has committed to picking a woman, that much we know, and he has come under increasing pressure for her to be black. severals already missed self-imposed deadlines to announce his potential vice president. we will bring you updates on that story as they come in. that is it from me and the team. thank you so much for being with us. do stay tuned. ♪ >> hello, and welcome to the interview. my guest has literally stared

death in the eye after an elelephant charged him. he is an accomplished businessman and godfather of a customer relationship management, ceo of a startrtup, anand has just been valued at $3 billion. hello, and thank you for being with us today. >> good afternoon. of thisre the author wall street journal best seller, digital transformation, survive and thrive in an era of mass extinction. you draw an interesting parallel about how life evolved on earth and what is happening in the business world. why is it similar? what are we what went -- what are we witnessing today? >> in the natural world, we have had life on the planet for, say, two and a half billion years. the last 440 million years, we have had five mass extinction evenents. most recently being this kt extinction where this meteor hit the youth a pan 65 million years ago.

i believe a quarter of 80% of the species on earth became extinct at that time. and after each of these mass extinctions,s, they would be followed b by kind of a mass respeciation where new species would come into existence. so 65 million years ago, the dinosaurs disappeared fromom the planet, and that vacuum was filled by mammals. so that turned out to work out well for homo sapiens, at least so far. know when you get into the corporate boardroom today or you are talking to the ceo, shanghai, beijing, paris, rome, londndon, nenew york, san franc, ththe top of the ceo's a agendas this thihing called digital transformation. there is a mandate to digitally transform. and it is something critically important, and it is existential. and i spent a lot of time thinking about this. like, whatat is going on here?

informationhe technology industry, and this is a very rapidly growing space. in that space, we are seeing some new vectors in the 21st century y that are changingg everything. these include elastic c cloud computining, big data, the internet of things and this phenomenon we call artificial intelligence. at the confluence of these vacuums, you find digital transformation. so now you ask, why are people so focused on digital transfer made?? well, just like in the natural world, in the corporate world in the 21st centutury, we are going to a mass extinction event. 52% of the fortune 500 companies have disappeared in the last 18 years. when they are gone, where is kodak? where is westinghouse? where is toys "r" us? they have vaporized. and it is estimated that as many as 70% of the companies that exist today will be gone in the next 20 years.

so what is going on is there is a rush -- we are seeing companies with new dna like amazon,ikike airirbnb, likike that are all about artificial intelligence, big data, elastic cloud computing in retail, transportation, hospitality, automotive industries. and these compmpanies with new a by replacing the vacuum these companies that are going out of business, so that is what i think is going on. >> how well can people be able to harness those four technologies? and to pick up on a statement in your book come you say artificial intelligence will not be as big or bigger of or as disruptive as was the industrial revolution. knowing what happened after the industrial revolution, world war ii, what do heavenly mind, is it an apocalyptic vision? >> there was a very important book published in 1973 by a

sociologist from harvard called "the c coming postindustrial society." and he predicted in 1973, and this is before ththe personal computer, before thehe internet, before the cell phone come if you can imagine that, ok, that about toowas experience a resestructuring of the globobal economy on the ordr of the indusustrial r revolutio, and he called this the postindustrial society or the information age. years,, in the last 50 everythihing he predicted has ce true.. now intervention technology has chchanged the structure of the economy, the w way that we work, ththe way we entertain o oursel, the way y we commumunicatete, ty we look at what is going o on, d public securities s today and hw much of the public security is dominated by information technology companies. so it has changed everything. >> i would like to have your

take on a trade war between the united states and china. i just recently heard microsoft's president said that both countries are on the verge of a tech cold war. what is your opinion on this, and who do you think will win this battle? is it a battle about artificial intelligence, about five gee, what is it all about? >> will come up vladimir putin winsin 2017 that whoever ththey war on n ai dominates t e world. i believe that is true, and it will not be russia. it will either be ai, where there are massive investments going on in advancing artificial intelligence for controlling ,eople, social compliance weapons systems, defense systems, the weaponizazation of ai. or the united states. so we are in and non-kinetic warfare with china today, and they are billions of dollars. they are educating morore peopl.

they a are spending more money. they are filing more patents. and i think there is a reason to be concerned. if things continue to go there current, where they're going today, i think china might win this war. >> is this a calall on the u.s. govevernment to do a a little bt more? >> i think if the western governments do not do more in this area, we will be very sorry. >> let's talk about your start up, valued at three billy dollars, called c3ai, helping companies take the digital turn. maybe give us a brief example of how you help your clients. >> we have spent the last decade, almost three quarters of billion dollars, building a software platform that allows shell,stomers, like ng,g, united states air force, apply ai to massive social and economic benefits. so this is about cleaner energy, renewable energy, more efficient

manufafacturing, lower inventory costs, lower cost products, more satisfied customers. so we do this s in banking, telecommunications, smart ,ities, defense, intelligence clean energy. >> you have decided to set up your headquarters here in europe. european headquarters are here in francnce. you seem to appreciate france a lot. is it still the case after all the strikes, and why do you think it is a good country to invest? >> i think paris is very centrally located. it is a great transportation hub. offers a very deep and rich resource with their human capapital, some of the bet research and educational institutions on the planet, great computer scientists, great data scienentists, great human

capital. so paris was headquarters for me, and that works out very well for us. so paris is our headquarters f r footprinte grow our throughout europe. byi started this interview saying that you literally steer death in the eye, referring to what happened back in 2009 in tanzania when you were on a foot safari, attacked by an elephant. you underwewent 19 surgeries i think after that and were not able to walk for four years. on a personal level, the man that you are, how did it change your life to have to go through that? ini was on a photo safari tanzania and was attacked and mauled by an elephant. my left leg was gored. i broke a bunch of ribs. the elephant stepped on my right leg and my foot came off. so it was really challenging. the next four years i had 19

recoconstructitive surgeries, ai walked four yearars later. good news is today i' fine. but i think it t put things into perspeive about, yoyou know, you approach risk a little bit differently, and it alslso, you knknow, most ofof the things tht you rrrry about before an elephant attack that you t think are important,t, they are realay nonot important at all. so i it helps youu prioritize wt is important from what is not, so it changes the way you think. >> lastly, for viewers who may be thinking about starting their startup or their company, what is your advice to them? >> become a domain expert. ok? think that,t -- i whether we're dealing with bioscience, with information technology, material science, travel, transportation, there is no substitute for getting an education and being a domain expert in that field.

secondlyly, before i started a company, i i would go to work fr a company that is a leader in the field and learn how it iss done, how customers are engaged, the language of the business, how contracting is done, how customers are supported, so that you can be more successful out of the gate. >> thank you very much indeed for that. it is ththe end of this intervi, but do stay with us here on "france 24."

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