>> 10/01/20 10/01/20 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from new york, thisis is democracy now! -- mohammed bin salman, rolled out the red carp for thicar. w one of eoggi dissentingoices. he kw what the stakes were. >> he was publishing articles that wercritical of the udi reme. >> that could not be tolerated. am "kingdom of silence."

twyears afr the murder of journalist jamal kshoggi inside the saudionsulate in turkey, and new documentary looks the htory of u.s. and saudi relations and why the kingdom felt so threatened by khashoggi's writings. we will speato director rick rowley and pulitzer prize winning writer lawrence wright. ghtwill also talkk to wri "t" a novebout about a deadly pandemic written before the outbreak of covid-19. is the global dental tops one million, we go to india, which has just become the second nation to hit 6 million confirmed covid-19 cases after the u.s. we will speak to journalist rana ayyub, who was recently hospitalized after testing positive for covid. the privileged people in

indidia, they have hand sanitizers. underprprivileged, about 50%, cannot afford it. amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quaranante rereport. i'm amy goodman.n. fafar-right t groups are conting to celebrate president trump's debate performance after he refused to disavow white supremacists and urged one violent hate group, the proud boboys, to s stand by. pres. trump: what doing to call them? what would you like to do? proud boys? stand b back and stanand by. amamy: the proud boys are now selling t-shirts with the president's words "stand back and stand by." andrew anglin, the founder of the neo-nazi website the daily stormer, wrote on wednesday -- "i got shivers. i still have shivers.

he is telling the people to stand by. as in, get ready for war." on wednesday, president trump attempted to shift his message. pres. trump: i don't know who the proud boys are. you will have to give me a definition because i really don't know who they are. i can only say they have to stand out and let law enenforcement do their work. amy: a moment later, trump repeated his claim that it is anti-fascists who are the "real problem." in relelated news, the natioion magazine has revealed that the fbi has just issued an internal intelligence report warning of an imminent "violent extremist threat" posed by a far-right militia, including white supremacists. the report cites the 2021 inauguration as a "potential flashpoint." in the memo, the fbi's dallas field office warns of a "significant increase of violent social media posts of several boogaloo adherents in texas which indicate a propensity toward violence and acquiring

weapons that cause mass casualties, used by a small number of attackers." the fbi report was released on tuesday, the same day that president trump refused to condemn white supremacists during the first debate. the nation's ken klippenstein broke the story. said mostdebate, he is f from left groups. the fbi released intelligence report saying they are worried out far-r-right groupsps. it is ininteresting toto see the difference from the president and his own fbiirector. amy: in other election news, the trtrump campaign said wedndnesdy brad parscale has stepped down from his role as a senior campaign adviser. parscale was arrested andd involuntarily hospitalized for a mental health evaluation on sunday after his wife told -- call police and said he had hit her, brandished a handgun, fired a shot, and appear to be

suicidal. parscale served as trump's campaign manager until he was in july after the tulsa rally. meanwhile, the commission on presidential debates said wednesday it's planning unspecified changes to its format for the two remaining debates between president trump and joe biden in order to "ensure a more orderly discussion of the issues." on tuesday, trump interrupted biden at least 128 times in just over 90 minutes -- far outpacing his 51 interruptions of hillary clinton during the first debate of 2016. spain's government has ordered a second lockdown of madrid and surrounding areas amid a fresh surge of coronavirus infections. under tough new rules, residents won't be allowed to cross in or out of madrid except on essential business. in latin america, the international labour organization said wednesday at least 34 million jobs have been lost since the start of the pandemic. brazil registered more than 1000 new coronavirus deaths wednesday for the first time since mid-septemember.

in peru, thousands of healthcare workers launched a two-day partial strike to demand job security and personal protective equipment. at least 166 peruvian doctors have died of covid-19 and thousands of healthcare workers have been infected on the job. peperu has reported more thann 32,000 covid-19 deaths -- the highest per capita death toll in the world ahead of belgium, bolivia, brazil, chile, ecuador, and the united states. wisconsisin reported a record 2, 19 deaths wednesday amid an exponential rise cases. -- rise in new cases. some wisconsin hosospitals have been wait-listing patients or sending them to other facilities as state health officials acknowledged they may need to prepare field hospitals to handle the coming surge in patients. one hospital in green bay reports it's nearing 100% capacity, even as president donald trump plans campaign

rallies in green bay and la crosse over the weekend. on wednesday, trump was in duluth, minnesota, for an outdoor rally where his supporters were packed shoulder-to-shoulder, few of them wearing masks. an estimated 3000 people attended, breaking state guidelines capping crowd sizes at 250 where social distancing can be maintained. meanwhile, a cornell university study of millions of english-language articles points to president trump as the most influential source of falsehoods and conspiracy theories about the pandemic. the study's lead author told "the new york times" -- "the biggest surprise was that the president of the united states was the single largest driver of misinformation around covid." in economic news, the commerce department said wednesday the u.s. economy shrank by a record-shattering 31.4% annualized rate in the second quarter of 2020 as coronavirus lockdowns shuttered much of the economy. that's the highest quarterly drop in gross domestic product

since the u.s. began recording the statistic in the 1940's. on wednesday, senate republican majority leader mitch mcconnell rejected democrats' last-ditch proposal to pass a slimmed-down, $2.2 trillion coronavirus relief bill as a "political stunt." united and american airlines said in response they were preparing to furlough a combined 32,000 workers as hopes of an airline industry bailout faded. disney, meanwhile, said it will lay off 28,000 workers at its theme parks. in florida, republican governor ron desantis refused to extend a moratorium on foreclosures and evictions during the pandemic, which expired at midnight. florida has recorded a new spike in cases since governor desantis lifted limits on capacity at bars, restaurants, and other businessesasast fridayay. voting rights activists are hailining two new vivictories ie courts. a federal court has rerejected n effort by the trump campaign to block an expansion of mail-in

voting in montana. judge dana christensen said it is "fiction" that montana will fall prey to widespread voter fraud. meanwhile, in wisconsin, a federal appeals court has reinstated a six-day extension for counting absentee ballots in november. in other voting news, the new york city board of elections has announced plans to resend absentee ballots to nearly 100,000 voters after a printing error led to the distribution of defective ballots. in kentucky, a federal judge has delayed the release of recocordings o of grand jury proceedings in the case of breonna taylor, a 26-year-old african american medical worker who was killed last march by white louisville officers in plainclothes who burst into her homeme while execucuting a no-kk warrant. republican attorney general daniel cameron had asked the judge for a one-week extension to make the recordings public. the judge allowed him to delay their release until friday.

this week cameron admitted he never asked the grand jury to consnsider murder charges for re three police officers who o shot taylylor. in aririzona, tohono o''odham ld and water defenders heheld anotr protest wednesday against the construction of the border walll near a srered spng i inse thee organ pipe nioional numement the federal governmentasas blocked roadccccess thehe sacred spring whercocontraors haveve bn pumpmping llioionsf gallons of groundwerer to e toto x cent for t wall. in california, firefighters battled the massive gls fire in napa and sonoma counties overnight while forecasters issued red flag warnings as hot, gusty winds return to northern california. air quality across the region is once again deteriorating with smoke pushing air quality to unhealthy levels in san jose, napa, santa rosa, and other cities. nearly 4 milillion acreses have burned. already doubling california's

previous record even before october speak fire season. climate scienentists warn this year's fires could signal a new normal for california as rising greenhouse gas emissssions will continue to make the state hotter and drier. on capitol hill, house democrats grililled drug company executivs wednesday over soariring prescription drug prices, whicih are far hihigher i in the u.s. n anywhere else in the world. this i is californiaia congressmember katie porter questionining celgene ceo markrk alles s over the skyrocketing price e of the canancer drug revlimid, whwhich now costs more than triple what it did 15 years ago. >> y you know how mumuch you personally received in bonuses over two years -- the last two years just because celgene raised the price of this one drug revlimid? >> i received very generous compensation, but i don't know the exact number that you're referring to. >> in fact, you personally

million half $1 personally just by tripling the price. so to recap, the drug did not get any better, the cancer patients did not get any better, you just got better at making money. you just refine your skills at price gouging. to be clear, the taxpayers s spt $3.3 billion. amy: in india, thohousands of protesesters tooook to the stres inin cities around the country wednesday after a 19-year-old gang-rape victim who died was cremated against the wishes of her family. the victim was from the dalit community, one of the so-called "lower castes." her brother said four men arrested and charged with her rape and murder were all members of a privileged caste. after headlines, we will go to india, which has become just the second nation to hit 6 million confirmed covid-19 cases after the united states. in four winners have just been announced for this year's right

livelihood awards. also known as the alternative nobel l prize. ththe honorees are imprisoned raining human rights lawyer, indigenous environmental rights belarusianhe pro-democracy activist and u.s. civil rights lawyer brian stevenson. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. i am amy goodman here in new yorkrk city, socially distance from my cohost nermeen shaikh. it is s great to s see you. i look f forward to you being right here. nermeen: i look f forward to beg back at the studio as well.l. welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world.. amy: the global death toll from covid 19 topped one million this week and the worlrlhealth organization warned the actual totoll is likely m much higher -

more than half of the deaths occurred in just fofour countris -- the united states, brazil, india, and mexico. on monday, india became the second country to top 6 million cases, with more than 80,000 new coronavirus cases reported in just 24 hours. india's official death toll is rapidly approaching 100,000. india's lead pandemic agency said tuesday in antibody study suggests more than 60 million people in the country have already been infected with the coronavirus -- 10 times the official count, but still a small fraction of its population of 1.3 billion. this comes amid protests in several parts of india. demonstrations erupted wednesday after a 19-year-old gang-rape victim who died was cremated against her family's wishes. the victim was from the dalit community, one of the so-called lower castes and her brother said the accused men were all members of a privileged caste. last week, farmers blocked

highways and railway tracks to oppose agricultural reforms they say will leave them at the mercy of corporate agribusinesses. this week amnesty international announced it was forced to shutter operations and lay off all staff after the indian government froze its bank accounts after the organization -- the group published two critical reports about the country's human rights violations. amnesty staff say there is a "incessant witch-hunt" of human rights groups by prime minister narendra modi's hindu nationalist government. this is david griffiths, director of the office of the secretary general at amnesty international. >> silenence those who criticize them, those who call outut human rights abubuses in the cocountr. we have seen a steadily intetensifying series of attacks for several years. thatat is certain. amy: for more, we go to mumbai, where we're joined by rana ayyub, an indian j journalist wo

is a global opinions writer for "the washington post." her book is titled "gujarat files: anatomy of a cover up." she has just recovered from covid. she was hospitalized for the coronavirus. if you can talk about your own situation and what is hapappenig in india today as india becocoms only the second d nation in the world after our country, the united states, to surpass 6 mimillion i infections. >> great to bebe back on t the . one must undererstand, privilegd upper middle class in indndia, o a tweweet saying i was not getting hohospital bed and i was provided one. but that is not true for 80% of the indian population that does not have access to bed and access to the basic medical facilities. that somebody like me had to put out a tweet when my oxygen levels dip to admit that i was not getting any hospital beds --

i shudder to think what does the less privileged in india do at a time like this? we have more than 6 million cases. massive unemployment. are on strike. but it doesn't feel like india is even talking about the pandemic. even talking about covid-19. because the only thing in -- india is doing right now is to fight its human rights activists , incarcerate them. the injustice that is happening in this country, i don't think with the indian -- [indndiscernible] riright after i i tested negagae and wentnt in the field, i asksk pele what they feel about the fact we ve 2 million cases. they are not bothered bececause there's no money to buy food. ere is massisive unenemployment.

people are worriri about their next mea they're not worried aboutut socl distancicing as we talk about because, like i said in my last inteiew, it i ia privilege that most ididiots cannot affor. people are also ing relief work and i''ve seen n the povery from close quarters. people are fearing more the massive unemployment and the they're going without food. povertrty and ununemployment. nermeen: as you sasaid, it is nt just that t most indians d don't have access to health facililities, it is alsoso the , as youou pointed out, the impact of the lockdkdown and what has happppened in the wa off this pandemic hasas been devasastatig for the poor, in particular the

closure of schools has heavilyly india,children in together with the closure of early childhood development centers where millions of children used toto go and get access t to at least mininimal amounts of food, immunizations, clothingng, e etc.. these centerss a are still c cl. now, there a are repororts -- increasing repororts of millions of poor childrdren across the country who have beenn forced to almost theditions equiuivalent of slave l labor, n getting paid the e equivalent of hour forreral cents ann doing extremely dangngerous work from rolliling cigarettes to scavenging garbage. and while -- - meanwhile, a

billionaire e and the richest peperson andnd the richest persn madadeuntry, has reporortedly $12 million in our since march. >> y yeah, yeah. the poor are getting poorer. the rich arere -- the richch mean,n, the -- i government has been very kind to them. the latest earnings report for the second quarter of 2020, i think, like you said, he should massive increase in his income. has been able to raise about [indiscernible] investors like facebook and google, 33% stake across all of the platforms. thisis is happening while farmes .n india are protesting [indiscernible]

the countries literally grabbing with the pandedemic. this law has the sole intention to benefit the corporations who have been on the receiving end of the indian governments -- commercialization agriculture produces. it is going to ruin india while the corporations will gain. keep gaining every hour throughout the pandemic and the farmers, who are right now withoutlk, protesting having their meals for days at a stretch.

while i am talking, the indian government has arrested the leader of the opposition for protesting against the g gang re of a dalit girl. i don't know w why they even cal it a democracy anymore. amnesty has been forced to shut down in india because amnesty hahas literally been an eyesore for the indian government for speaking about human rights, speaking about poverty in india. this is a government that wants to talk about the farmers issue, which is why organizations like amnesty india have been forced to shut following the lockdown. it is the same amnesty india which gave a damming report on anti-muslim -- in february when the pandemic i just about started maintaining a strong force. there was a press coverage in

new delhi. -- conference in new delhi. india put out a report saying how the government was complicit in the attack on muslims and that is what has been happening in india. in india come everything but the pandemic has been taking care of. the centers are being taken care of, human rights activists are being incarcerated. india whoicons of are being by students -- smoking marijuana. that is what the government's priority is right now. our news media -- it is not asking the questions you and nermeen are asking to me right now. i wish i could go to answer ththose questions in india. only repeating the lies that are

being fed by the indian prime minister narendra modi. about thean you talk compmplicity of the news media,n particular, the broadcast news media with the modi government has been extremely strtriking, especialally this last weekend s these farmers protests corrupted across the country c come the broadcast media -- erupteted acacross the countntry, the broadcast we was focus onn this drdrug scandal thahat you u men, which implicateted one of the cocountry's top actresses, and there were scenes of the journalists cars racing off to her -- after her car, folollowig her every move. this was happening not only in the midstst of the farmerers protest, but also in the wake of thesee rates, series of rapes, woman who the dalit

ed yesterdrday and tod anothther vivictim of gang rape, another dalit womanan has died. in a august, there were seseverl reports of extraordinarily brut violencnce against womenen, rapes of women and girls as the youngest among them a three-year-old. so couldld you talk about the complicity o of the mediaia wite modi government,t, the v violene --inst womenen -- espspecially and d the extraordinary focus in thee media on the celebrity, which many say are trumped up scandals? i guess what actress, one of the --y a actresses who appeared earlier this year in solidarity with student protesters, some of whom have now been arrested. >> last year -- i mean, two

years ago, there is a report that india is the most unsafe place for a woman. instead of debating this, --ause we have s seen [indiscernible] the news anchors of india, instead of discussing the safety -- out to deflect indian culture and how the indian activists were behind this support, but [indiscernible] woman came from a dalit family. 12 days. she was raped and killed. and then they said the forensic say it was not even rape. which is why we were not surprised she wasurned,

cremated overnight in the family was not allowed to be present. there was a amount of clothes which -- she was burned last night. this is what india is doing to its daughters. is not asking -- the indian media is not asking the right questions. it is frustrating. medials that the indian -- [indiscernible] there's been a witchhunt against surrounded a ball he would -- bollywood actor. there's a medieval witchhunt.

one of the biggest superstars in india who had t the guts and the spine to stand w with the studet movement in february when it was opposing the citizenship amendment bill. solidarity with the students. yesterday when i was supposed to write my "washington post" column, i spoke with a couple of people and they said what --y're doing to the actress there's a word allegedly that she is asked for weed. that is what the government is using to nail her. she's not the only one. another that hasas been very vol against the goverernment, theree are two cases against him. they're filling cluster phobic because bollywood is a medium -- the government knows the mass

media, has been able to control the indian youth television and newspapers, but also the film industry, which is why it is bebeing labeled [indiscernible] delegitimize. happened.at she is a woman. a woman speak. which is why she celebrities,ndian when george floyd was killed in america they were tweeting "black lives matter." was gang rape, her body was burned last night, and not a single celebrity is lives matter."t start know that india will a witchhunt against them. there are images of indian cameramenh about 100

bouncing on her -- pouncing on her. you label them all sorts of nanames on your television channels. some days s i feel ashamed to be part of the news media which has refused to ask t the right questions. all of this, mind you, is farmers -- thee heart of the problem right now. nermeen: we justave 30 secondnds. the latest news about a special court in indiaia acquiuitting gl the suspects involvlved, includg high-ranking officials in modi's government i involved in the demolition in 1992, which h ledo unprecedentedolencee since e 1947. bombay wheni was in

it took place and i was nine. [indiscernible] video, lelet a rally to video,h -- despite the their people -- the courts say, no, you're acquitted. send we did it and the courts say no, you are acquitted. that speaks volumes. the criminal justice system in india, where they stand right now, wherere they are in democracy. should turn its attention to india because what is happening i in -- amy: i wanant and with that mirr image. you are an astute observer of the u.s. do you see the hindu nationalism of modi, the parallels with the white supremacy that president

trump refuses to condemn -- in fact, advocates? >> absbsolutely. i think trump and modi are mirror images of each other. he has this massi rally and they were speaking the same language. economicking g about terrorism and the entire mododi crcrowd was jubilant. connect whiteto supremacy or talk about racism. mr. modi believes there's no such thing as -- he is not spoken a word about the gang rarape of a dalit woman. he has enabled the attacks on women in india. you see the massive support. these are people that feel victimized in their own country despite being the majority. both trump and modi are playing to the victimhood of these majority communities, which believes it has [indiscernible]

which is what i think india and america -- the world should know that the world's largest demomocracy goes down, rebel may be felt by the world. it is time for ththe world to concentrate on india. amy: rana ayyub, indian journalist who is a global opinions writer for "the washington post." author of the book "gujarat files: anatomy of a cover up." --are very ththankful thatt you at least yoursrself, you have recoverered from covid, ththough india a is number two behind the united states in the world for covid infectctions. whwhen we cocome back, tomorrow markrks to you since washington post correspondent jamal khashoggi was murdered inside the saudi consulate in turkey. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

amy: "acche din blues" by indian poet-activist aamir aziz. this is democracy now!, democracynowow.org, the quarante report. i'm amamy goodman with n nermeen shaikh.. friday marks the two-yeaear anniversary of the brutal assassination of exiled saudi joururnalist jamal khashoggi inside the saudi consulate in

istanbul, turkey. in a story that shocked the world, khashoggi e entered the consulate on o october 2, 2018, for marriagege documents and was never seen again. it was later revealed that khashoggi -- a saudi insider turned critic and "washington post" columnist -- was murdered and dismemembered by a t team of sasaudi agents at the e direct r of crown prince mohammed b bin saanan. two o years lar, the pncnce has not been held d accountable and remains a a close ally of the e. government. last month saudi couourt issued , a prison sentences of between seven and 20 years f for thehe t defendantsts in khashoggi's murderer, but the trtrial and verdicict did not addresess wh ordered ththe killing. agnes callamard, u.n.n. speciail rapporteur on exextrajudicial executions, called it "a parody of justice." we turn a new shoime documentarababout e sassininion. it tracks not on h his btall murderernd the rise of crown prince mamammed n sasalm, butt also t the decadeses-long allile between the united states and

saudi arabia. it's called "kingdom of silence." this is the film's trailer. >> this man was a noble man, a coagageous man. very serious about the evolution he was makin >> hwas reatenednd inmidated l the time. >> the saudionarchy operates likeafia, and you don't cross the godfatr.r. >> there is no way that horrific acwas carried out witut the blblessi from thvery top of the saud government. stst no way. vergoodve become iends ov a very ort peri of time. > mohammed bin salman was tted in washington pt t of everery pect o oamericic power rolled out the redararpet r thisuy. >> jamaal's khashoggi s s one thonly d dsenting voices.

jamal was publishing artieses at w wercritic of the udi gime. >> tt could t be tolated. close to wt extent with the udi govnment entangle with alaeda? is there a person in t w world thatatnows mor than jal khashoggi? he had made a huge sacfifice mostst ohiss children e e bein held hostage. you're in a war and you can't giveve u yoyocan't disappr. wds sentthe last to him. of the story is there is no moral. amy: that's the trailer for "kingdom of silence." the new documentary airs on showtime tomorrow, fririday, the two-year anniviversary of the death of jamal khashoggi. for more, wewe are joined by in new yorkrk by the film's directr rick rowley, an oscar-nominated,

emmy-winning filmmaker, and independndent journalist withh midnight productions. and in austin, texas, lawrence wright is an author, screenwriter, playwright, and staff writer for "the new yorker" magazine. featured in n the film and is an executive producer and friend of jamal khashoggi. we welcome you to democracy now! rick rowley, the last time you were in studio, were just starting this documentary. the signifificance of what happened this week two years ago with "the washington post" correspondent walked into that saudi consulate in his temple -- istatanbul? talk about what happened and what the world now knows. >> it is great to be back here. i think what drew me into this story is the facact that jamal s one of our own. he was a journalist who was murdered by the regime that he criticized. when one of our colleagues is killed, and falls on all of us as journalists to try to do what

we can to rescue her story from the forces that would impose silence on it. in a very short period o of tim, we learned a lot about the murder. we began this project kind of as a murder mystery. we did the things that you do when you begin that sort of ininvestigation. we met with multiple national intelligence agencies, reviewed intel, tracked outut insiders wo had never spoken before and found new details ababout the killing. a very quickly it became their there were far more important and interesting questions your estate. not only did the crown prince in the saudi royal family order is as fusion, we know he did. there's a consensus among global intelligence agencies that's what happened and there is overwhelming evidence come everything from the planes that were used to the electronic communications to recorded transcript of recorded conversations inside the consulate that make it clear that is what happened.

not just did that happen, but why. not just how the gruesome killing was carried out -- we know that now in granular detail, but who was this man jamal who the kingdom would risk so much to sililence? those deeper queuestions propeld that a much l longer journey spans multiple continents and 20 months o of pduction to really answer that question. life turned into an epic story. jamal was more than a a journalistic witness. he was a participant in some of the events that most important events of our time, even as they continue to structure the way we live the world today. and he played all these kind of amazing reses. his storory is thetory of trsformation and redemptption, toxiclso a roadmap to this

relationship betweenen u.s. d saudi arabia that hassow violence and cows around the country fofor decades. nermrmeen: jamal khashoggigi war participanant in some of the key events thahat continue to shape the e way the world is tododay, starting with the soviet invasion off afgfghanistan, his coverage of that word, and of the resesisnce, includiding the role played by osama bibin lade, who he met,,nd whose cause of the time he did believee -- as did the u.s., ththey shared an intest, the defeat of thee soviets. on of the e people interviewed n thee film m also sayays that ththroughout history of u.u.s.-i relations, jamal was there at the crossrsroads either reporti, explaining, or spinning.

cocould you give an account of s role in documenting the relationonship between the u.s.. and saudi arabia and how he eventually camame to disissent m roayl familyly, how that happened d and when? studiedyoung man, jamal in america so he was used to -- hehe spokeke english, he knenews way around the west. bubut then it w was also in the muslim brothers, as was bin laden, which was a forbidden organization in saudi arabia. reporter when jihad against the sovieiets took plac. when i say he bebecame a report, you have tundersta,, amy, how unusual at is in saudi abia. actually, gog outnd carryrying is the task of journasm rarely done. thther are lots of things you ar no allowed to speak about, video beca an actual or

correspoenent, gng t to afafghantan and tervieieng people and sending in dispches. it washehere tt hehe a bin laden became close. not just as friends,utut the was relationship -- a profofesonal one. jamal was chronicling the jihad. in the processf writinabout bin ladenen, he wasnlarging this ung man's image. so in summaryext, jamal fashioned the mh that surrndnded omama binaden.. andhat would linink them together for the rest of their lives. amy: lawrence wright, let's go to "the kingdom of silence" featuring jamal khashoggi in his own words about afghanistan. >> afghanistan was a major islamic cause any saud arabia in the 19's. americans do not wt to apprr if they are in war with

soviet unn.n. study-amerin -- a cover-up, ee saudi-american. 70 to theny i had afghan cause bauause iyselelf come from islamic circle i still believeve it was jujust use. bigirabia -- it was a story. kind of made my na in the field of journalism. amy: the words of jamal khashoggi himself,, murdered two years ago on friday. lawrence wright, take us from his relationship with osama bin laden, what happened in afghanistan -- and this is where he rose as a war correspondent -- and why the current regime saw him as so threatening when he turned against t them given s knowledge of what that saudi

relationship was with osama right to bin salman's rise,e, whwhich is synonymous with the genocide in yeme >> amy, when bin laden and jamal returned to saudi a arabia, they were different men. bin laden was f famous. i think of him as beieing like saudi arabia's first cecelebrity because as -- that is a category that did not exist until bin laden n came home in saudi arab. there was the royal family and there isis everybody e else. the royal owns all of the newspapapers. theyey own almost all of the sasatellite channels in the arab world. they control the narrarative. gotten aeses and he has voice. he hasas become e a well-e-estad joururnalist -- which itself is exceptional in that country. zonone of to expand the

what you can say in saudi arabiaia. now, i have workeded in the saui press for a while and i learned there are three things you u c't talk about. you can't talk about the government, the royal family, and religion. so it takes a lot off your plate. andl was willing to speak he was not -- - he was not afra. that was the thing that stood out to me about jamal. because people were so worried about what they might say, worried about the consequences even then. jamal undererstood whwhat the parametersrs were,e, but he was willing to work inside that and try to enlarge that space. that eventually is what killed him. he had gotten too big for his britches as far as the royal family was coconcernened. they began to cut back on his ability to publish. even w when they shut down his

twitter, he realized it was over for him in saudi arabia and there was no room for his voice. he came to america. he started wririting for "the washington post." you cannot imagine what a a big deal that was i in saudi i arab. he i is working for one of the most important newspapers in t e world inside the capital weree all ofof the lawmakekers getp every morning and read that newspaper. what a powerful platform that was. it was unheard of in saudi arabia. it was a countervailing forcece basically could not toleratete. nermeen: if we could talk a little bit about when khashoggi separated, when his intererests separated, he stopped d supportg the e royal mimily -- not just that he initiallyacked ththe jijihadis fighting the soviets d afghghanistan, butut he alalso supporteted the u.s. invnvasionf iraq, which couould not have ben

fougught without saudi s suppor. but t when the arab spriring be, he was surprisised by the .prisings acroross the araborld and d it had something to do wih those uprisings come his distancing from the royal family. >> you're tototally rigight. i visited jamal in the southern part of the country. he had been made editor of a newspaper there. that wase only saudi, in favor of the war. i said, why do you support it? he saiaid, because we need a p . we are so paralyzed inin this couny.y. the only force that was great enough, i in his opinion, that coululd change the arab world ws the united states. so he thought t this would be a pupush toward democracy. of course, it turned out so cataststrophically. thathen he came -- at

point, he was really under death threat. it was prince turki who rescued him and took him to be a spokesperson in london and then in washington wherere he serveds ambassador. ththat was a period of dutiful service on t the part of jamal r ththe royal family. but then along came the arab spring. and this was transformative for jamal. he suddenly saw there was a popular movement in the arab world and that people felt as he did, that there should be a larger spacece for ordininary pe to e express t themselelves ando haveve fulfilled lives. he w very enthusiastic about it. even at the end of his life, amy, he was going around -- there is a diaspora of the people that were involved in the arab spring, many of them in the u.s. jamal was going around rallying

them, trying to put them back together again as a movement. so i think that was really the moment that his life totally changed. amy: we're going to go to break and then come back to thisis discussion. we are talking to the pulitzer prize wiwinning journalisist lawrence w wright, friend d of l khashoggi, a and theemmy winnig film maker rick rowley, who jested "kingdom of silence." did "king of silence." stay with us. ♪ [music break]k]

amy: amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. i'm amy goodman with nermeen shaikh. friday marks the second anniversary of the murder of the exiled saudi journalist jamal khashoggi inside the saudi consulate in istanbul, turkey. we are talking to rick rowley, director of a new documentary out tomorrow about khashoggi called "kingdom of silence," and

with khashoggi khashoggi lawrence wright,'s friend, author, and pulitzer prize winner. i want to go to another clip from "kingdom of silence go "the washington byt" posted an article khashoggi in sepmber 201 2017, ele. of he can be the biggest bear hug. was really, reallwawarm a then he started cryi.. he said, left my country, i left my mimily behind for freedo just to free. and no one knows what that feels like more than you. atererhifirstt "washington p pt" a artle wasas published that ur.. clothehes udi abia was'tt

always thippppresse bjama khkhashoi.i. we spent in this hou o on th phone trying to understand the wehtht of arrests. my column was cancel.. i was ban. i spent simomonths silent, reflecting years ago, when several friends were arrested, i said nothing. i have made a differen choice now. i have left my home, my family and my job. and d i am raising my voice. amy: those are the words of jamal khashoggi that are read by someone else. that was the pc had in "the washinington post."" rick rowley talk about what

within happen and about bin salman coming to the united thees, not just hailed by president, but held by business leaders prououdly getting the rd carpet all over this country and what this meant, how dangerous this was for the manan who was w turned against the leadership. man who throughout his life so his heroes -- heroes he had championed and a depressed who he had helped create the stories andmyths around, you saw them turn their lives before his eyes and create crimes that he felt -- crimes that he felt himself implicated in from september 11 osama bin laden to the murder of the arab spring. he was wounded by those crimes he saw and transformed them. after the arab spring, he

he had spentrinces his life serving, murder. the rupture begins between him and the saudi regime. he becomes a critic and that is forced into exile. he ends of a martyr. comes to the states and he begins publishing in "the washington post" is one of the only dissenting voices in the u.s. that is critical at all of the new regime. saudi arabia, in many ways, depends on the united states. the united states has been saudi's security guarantor since the beginning and has time and again defefended it. they recognize the importance and the value of american public opinion and they invest incredibly heavily in it. saudi arabia dumps billions of dollars into hollywood. there are linchpin investors in silicon valley. aside from all of the money they

spent at the beltway, bankrolling almost all of the think tanks that cover the middle east, endowing chairs at most of america's elite universities. so today if you turn on cable news and you see an expert talking about saudi arabia, the odds are very high that they have -- part of their salary is paid for by the kingdodom itsel. s can do power, he came on this victory lap where he met everyone in the u.s., from bill to "the rock" to opera. i mean, every cultural and political figure in washington, new york o'malley, or silicon valley or seattle. there was this -- in spite of the fact that at the same time he was doing this, he had dragged the u.s. into this --

what the u.n. close the greatest humanitarian catastrophe of our time, this massive war crime that saudi and american attack on yemen. jamal is the lone voice in washington, d.c., speaking out against or criticizing even in gentle ways this new regime, and that made him incredibly dangerous to saudi arabia. that is compounded by the fact that jamal knew so much. he was an insider, the ultimate insider. earjust someone who has the of powerful people inside the royal court, but someone who was working closely with saudi intelligence and was at the saudiof the ca in arabia not just in afghanistan, but the decades afterward throughout the region. so he knew things that would be incredibly damaging to the royal

family and to the u u.s.-saudi relationshipip. nermrmeen: lawawrence wright, ms was s haileded as a rereformer e u.s. w when heame and met all of these important people across every industry. you yourseself believe he was a refoformer. what made you change your mind? > my last conversrsation wi jajamal i was asking him about that. is thing that jamal told me there is no room foror anyone else's voice. like the women who wanted to drive. he granted them driving, but he has locked up the women that proposed it and tortured them. so the message has gone out from those actions is "i will do the deciding here, nobodody else haa voice in this kingdom except for me." amy: at the end, after jamamal khashoggi was murdered and president trump was asked about

this, when the cia director said it was clearly from orders from the top, president trump's response was "america first." he was not going to change his support of the saudi regime. i want to thank rick rowley, director of "kingdom of silence" and lawrence wright. we will do a post show on lawrence wright's book. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]

♪ hello. thanks for joining us. this is nhk "newsline." i'm yamamoto miki in tokyo. we start with a story here in japan that's caused major problems for companies and investors around the world. the tokyo stock exchange reopene