10/07/20 10/07/20 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amamy: from new york, thisis is democracy y now! do tonow know what to mitigate t the spread of this vy infectious disease, and he is not only not doing those things, he is actively advocating against them still and continuing to claim that it is jujust going to disappear, still some kind of hoax, using the

racist term "china virus" to get himimself off the hook. amy: that iss mary trump, presesident trump, as president trump compmpares the deadly c covid virus to the flu. we will speak to clinical psychologist mary trump, author of "too much and never enough: how my family created the world's most dangerous man." this comes as trump advisor steven miller tests positive and the nation's military leaders are quarantined. then we go to north carolina where the greensboro city council has just passed a resolution apologizing for the 1979 greensboro massacre when 40 ku klux klansmen and american nazis opened fire on an anti-klan demonstration, killing five anti-racist activists in a span of 88 seconds. where were the police? we will speak to two survivors of the massacre. organizing g xtile

workers. in 1979, that was still in uphill struggle. we were having a major rally to promote that workrk. was thewasn't aware of greensboro police had put together a racist united front for the specific purpopose of coming to d disrupt the mararch. thes took weapons out of trunk of their cars and fired into that group of people gathering for a march. amy: all that and more, coming up. welcome toto democracy now!,!, dedemocracynow.org, the ququarae rereport. i'm amy goodman. chaos s continueues to grip thtp echelolons of the u.s. governme, as foror senior r trump adadministration officials and their aides test positive for

coronavirus. on tuesday, president trump's anti-immigrant senior adviser stephehen miller became e the lt high-level official to announce a positive test. white house press aide jalen drummond also tested positive, joining the white house press secretary kayleigh mcenany and two other deputies with covid-19. at the pentagon,n, all but one member of the joint chiefs of staff are quarantining or self-isolating at home after admiral charles ray of the coast guard tested positive for coronavirus. in new jersey, former republican governor chris christie remains hospitalized with covid-19 after he checked himself into morristown medical center on saturday. hospital officials have declined to comment on christie's health, and his last public comments came monday in a brief telephone interview withth an editor at te "new jersey star ledger," who reported christie sounded raspy. christie was part of president trump's debate preparation team last week, which also included

kellyanne conway, hope hicks, bill stepian, kayleigh mcenany -- all of whom have since tested positive for covid-19. none of them were wearing masks. on monday, president trump's attornrney rudy giuliani -- - wo was alalso present at trump's dedebate prerep -- cough hisis y through anan interview on fox ns in which he mocked j joe biden r wearing masks. you for giuliana, thank your time. we look forward to having you back. i hope that covers that anything bad. you're waiting for your test to come back. we hope you're going to be healthy and well. amy: giuliani said tuesday morning he has tested negative for coronavirus. he has not gone into quarantine despite close contacts with the number of infected people. the white house reportedly rejected an offer by the cdc to help with h contact t tracing. and mamany people put at risk sd they have not been contacted. fears are rising over residence staff workers employed at washington, d.c.'s largest

coronavirus hotspot -- the white house. ai-jen poo, the director of the nationalal domestic rkers alliance said in a statement -- "the outbreak of coronavirus at our highest level of government highlights the urgent need to provide essential worker protections and comprehensive covid relief for all of us." meanwhile, bloomberg reports two of president trump's military aides tested positive for . the aides act as valets who always travel with the president, carrying nuclear launch codes in a briefcase known as the nuclear football. trump took the football with him to walter reed hospital over the weekend where he was administered the steroid dexamethasone, which has been linked to grandiose delusions and psychosis in some patients. the bulletin of the atomic scientists wrote in response -- "to state the obvious, we should not entrust nuclear launch authority to someone who is not fully lucid." the united states reported

another 43,000 new coronavirus infections over the last 24 hours, pushing t u u.s. death toll to arly 211,00000 -- the highest in the world by far. six states are reporting record numbers of hospitalizations -- montana, nebraska, north and south dakota, wyoming, and wisconsin. the ststock market tumumbled on tuesday shortly after president trumump announced anan abrupt eo negotitiations over a a covid-19 stimulusus bill until afteter te election.. democratic preresidential nomine joe biden slammed d trump's decicision, twtweeting -- "make no mistake -- if you are out of work, if your business is closed, if your child's school is shut down, if you are seeing layoffs in your community, donald trump decided today that none of that matters to him." trump's announcement came shortly after federal reserve chchair jerome powell l warn off "tragic" results if the government doesn't do more to boost the economy, which is

facing its biggest crisis in decades. in a bizarre move, trump then retweeted an article explaining why powell feels a stimulus is needed. after widespread criticism, trump then tweeted on tuesday night that he would be open to signing a stand-alone bill solely designed to provide a second round of $1200 stimulus checks. on tuesday, house speaker nancy pelosi openly questioned if trump's decision-making ability has been impacted by the steroids he is taking for covid-19. facebookok deleted a post by presidident trump tuesdaday faly claiming c covid-19 is less s ll than t the seasosonal flu.u. even though the virurus has kild more than 210,000 people in the unitited states alone. twitter similarly hid trump's tweet t with a warning that the presidt's post coninins "misleading d d poteialllly rmful inrmatatio about t t corovirus.

trump's false aims dirtly contradict his own comments recorded to journalist bob woodward in early february. trump took it is more deadly that even your strenuous. this is 5% versus 1% in 1%. so this is deadly y stuff. amy: the food and drug administration on tuesday published safety guidelines for ththe approval o of covid-19 vaccines, ying vaccine makers must monitor c clinical trial participants for at least two months to rule out any side effects. the fda's rules were published over the objections of the white house, which was seekingngo allow emergency use authorizations of vaccines ahead of the november 3 election. meanwhile, the trump administration's former top vaccine chief resigned tuesday, six months after he was demoted for blowing the whistle on president trump's promotion of

untested drugs for covid-19 and nepotism in the department of health and human services. in an amended whistleblower complaint, dr. rick bright says he'd been assigned no meaningful work in over a month because of political grudges. mimike pence and kamala harrrrie seset to square off ththis eveng in a vice presidential debate, despitite concerns that pence my be infecteted with the coronavirus. pence's team says the vice president continues to test negative and claims he doesn't need to quarantine since his recent contacts with the president and other infected government officials weren't close contact as defined by the cdc. on tuesday, pence's team dropped its opposition to a having a plexiglas barrier erected next to him at tonight's debate. earlier this week, pence's s top aidede katie miller mocked kamaa harris for trying to build a fortress around herself by demanding a plexiglas shield. katie miller's husband, stephen miller, has since tested

positive for the coronavirus. meanwhile, president trump tweeted from the white house tuesday that he looks forward to debating joe biden next thursday in miami, even though trump is still sick with covid-19 and likely highly infectious. on tuesday, joe biden said he'll debate trump but only if medical experts say the president is no longer contagious. mr. biden: i think if he still has covid, we should not have a debate. amy: vice president joe bidenn travaveled to gettysburg, pennsylvania where he called for , tuesday national unity. 25 minute address, biden appealed for americans to listen to wear masks and follow the science on coronavirus. he also acknowledged centuries of racial injustice in the u.s. even as he rejected calls by the movement for black lives to dismantle or defund the police.

mr. biden: i believe in law and order. i have never supported defunding the police but i also believe in -- injustice is real. it is a product of history that goes back 400 years when black men, women and children were first t brought t here in chain. amy: more detailsls have emerged about t suprememe court nomineey coney y barrett's involvement in the sesecretive, highly patriarchal religious group people of praisese. members of the group pledge a lifelong loyalty oath assigning each member a personal adviser, known as "heads" for men and, until recently, "handmaids" for women. evidence has emerged that both barrett and her mother have served as handmaids within the group. meanwhile, "the guardian" has revealed barrett once lived in the home of the co-founder of people of praise while she was in law school at notre dame. barrett's confirmation hearing is set to begin on october 12. in other supreme court news, justices clarence thomas and

samuel alito have come out strongly against same-sex marriagendnd indatated the court's 2015 decision legalizing it should be overturned. they issued the statement on monday when the court turned down an appeal by a kentucky country clerk who was sued after refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. in t the gulf of mexico,o, hurre delta strengtheneded rapidly prior to making landfall this morning just south of cancun. forecasters warned of life-threatening storm surges and sustained 120 mile-per-hour winds. delta is forecast to move back over open water and will likely strengthen ahead of a second landfall l late friday on the u. gulf coastst. the governors of louisiana and alabama have already declared states of emergency. the 2020 hurricacane season is already the second most active on record with 28 named storms. meteorologists are now naming stormsms after letters i in th

greek alphabetet after they rann out of letetters for regular names. the united natations sayays seal flooding in east afrfrica has impacted 6 million people this a millilion and a half people fororced from theheir ho. nearly e ery state in sudan has en affecd and mu of sout sudan, too, with parts of the region rececording the h heaviet rainfall in a century. kyrgyzstan i is in a state of political chaos. the nation's electoral commission annulled the result of sunday's disputed parliamentary elections. on tuesday, kyrgyzstan's prime minister and the speaker of the parliament resigned after protesters stormed government offices. the parliament then appointed an acting prime minister, picking a prominent opposition leader who had just been released from prison by protesters hours earlier. a group of senate democrats s ae urging the state department to halt military aid to azerbaijan, blaming the nation for

instigating the ongoing fighting with its neighbor armenia over the didisputed territory o nagogoo-karabakh. thu.s. lawawmakers are also calling for freezing arms sales to turkey, which is backing azerbaijan. earlier today, iranian president hassan rouhani warned that the coconflict could turn into a regional war. armenia's president criticized turkey and azerbaijan saying -- "to me there is no doubt that this is a policy of continuing the armenian genocide and a policy of reinstating the turkish empire." in news from syryria, at least 8 peopople died tuesdsday in a a k bomb explosion in the former islamic state stronghold of al-bab in northwest syria. the town is now under the control of turkey. backck in n the united states, d jury in missouri has indicted a wealthy white st. louis couple who brandished guns at black lives matter protesters who marched by the home in june. mark and patricia mccloskey were charged with unlawful use of a

weapon and evidence tampering, both felonies. in august, the couple spoke at the republican national convention. a new department of homeland cucurityeporort nds whwhe supremacists are the "most persistent and lethal reat in thhohomela." actingomomelansecucuri secretary ch w wolf iteses i the report -- "i am particularly concerned about white supremacist violent extremists who have been exceptionally lethal in their abhorrent, targeted attacks in recent years." amazon, apple, facebook, and google are facing accusations by house democrats of engaging in anti-competitive, monopoly-style tactics. on tuesday, the house's top antitrust panel released a 450-page report urging the big tech firms to be broken up and for the rewriting of antitrust laws. in other tech news, facebook has announced it will ban all accounts and pages connected to qanon, a pro-trump conspiracy theory.

and "the e new york times" is rereporting formrmer attorney general jeff sessions once dedefended the trump ministraration's policy of separating immmmigrant familiesy sayingng, "we n need to take awy children." sessions reputedly said those words during a 2018 meeting with federal prosecutors who worked along the u.u.s.-mexico border. prosecutors were told by then deputy attorney general rod rosenstein that it did n not matter how youngng the children were. "the times" reports rosenstein said that govevernment lawyers should not have rerefused to prosecute two o cases simply because the childrdren were bary more than ininfantnts. and those arare some of the headlines. thisis is democrcracy now!, democracacynow.org, the ququarae rereport. when we come back,k, as the president compares the deadldly covid-1919 outbreak to the flu after being hospitalized for the virus himself, wewe will speak with his o only niece,e, mary t,

clinical psychologist and author of "too much and never enough: how my family created the world's most dangerous man." stay with us. ♪ [music break]

amy: "running with the e devil" by van halenen. the groups guitaristst eddie van halen dieied tuesday at thehe af 65 of cancer. thisis is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report.. i'm amy goodman. i am in new york joined by my cohost juan gonzalezez in new jersey. hi, juan. juan: welcocome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. amy: as president trumpp continues to b battle covid-19 from thehe white house after leavining the hospital on moaya, at leastst 11 whwhite house officials and their aides have tested positive for the e virus. the people around him, it is more like two dozen. steve miller became

the latest high-level official to announce a positive test. the disease has also reached the highest echelons of the u.s. military -- joint chiefs of staff chair mark milley and several other senior members of the pentagon's leadership are quarantining after the vice commandant of the u.s. coast guard admiral charles ray tested positive. in a tweet-stormuesday night, ump fid off more than 40 tweets a retweets over autut halfn n hourposting about votingecurity d conspicy theoriesttacking his political rivals, dendnding acacti on a a ronavirus relief package just hoursfter he had cut-off negotiions earer in -- on thstimulus bill until after thelelecti. joe biden fired back,ayaying, "get off twitter."

ump alsoalselylaimed i s s twee t that vid-19as no worse than the f, even tugugh ththe vis has kied more an 210,0 peoplen the uned stat. this is e government's top infectio diseaseexpert, . thony fauci, resnding to trp p during an inrview tuesday on nbc news. >> you don''t get a p pandemic t killlls a millionn peoplple andt isn't t even over yet with influenza. so it is not correct to state it is the same as the flu.. amamy: well, for more on t tru's increasingly erratic behavior this much h in, we are joined by mary trump, the niece e of president donald trump, a clinical psychologist and author of the best-selling book published in july "too much and never enough: how my family created the world's most dangerous man." mary trump, welcome back to democracy now!

>> it is great to be here again. amy: let's begin with getting you to elaborate on your tweet on friday in respononse to learning that your uncle, prpresident trump, t tested pose for covid-19. he wrote -- joint "i reserve my sympathy, empathy, and despair for those who are sick and for those who have died because they were misled, like to, or ignored. an effing mask." you said that illness was seen as "display of unforgivable weakness, , whether it was themselves or others." can you talk about with the president, your uncle, has done this weekend after getting released from the hospital and enduring, now drugged up, , r remdisiveroids and an unusual investigational

drug cocktail. we are seeing massive numbers of tweets, big switch around from saying he is canceling stim to maybe he was supportive. can n you talk as a clinical psychologist and a person with deep knowledge of your family? >> sure. first of a all, i think it is vy important to remember that this man who is directly at this point responsible for the deaths of over 210,0,000 people and ths illness of who knows how many millions received -- is receiving world-class health care in world-class medical facilities provided to him by system he does not pay into. so there is that. 99% of americans do nonot receie such care. unfortunately, this is sort of a worst-case scenario. obviously, we don't know yet

what the course of donald's illness will t take. covid-19 is something that is very tricky and changes couourse without warning. as this doctor said, we don't know if he is out of the woods yet. but if he contracted covid 19 and then emerges relatively unscathed, that is the worst case scenario because, as we saw in his tweets the e other day, e is not going to take it seririously. hehe will think, "i bebeat it, o bad for the rest of you suckers. i got my care, i got better. you deal with it on your own." juan: could you talk about how illness was treated witithin yor family but t the various generatitions afraid trump -- of fred trumpmp, sr. under donald trump, help illness is viewed? >> interestingly, and i don't

know how this plays intoto it, t my great-grandfather died from the 1918 flu pandemic. when my grandfather was abouout2 years old. so i'm not sure if f that had an impact -- i'i'm sure he did have an impact on them, b but i'm not entirely sure how. what i d do know is my grgrandfr did not tolerate illness. he did not tololerate e weaknesf any kind, but he interpreted weakness or defined we miss in a very odd way -- weakness in very odd way. weakness was kindness, generosity, sensitivity, and physical illness, addiction. they were not accepted. they were barely acknowledged. is myf ththe problem grandfather never got sick. he was not sick until he was in his 80's. his children were raised with this leave system. -- lee system.

donald totally bought into it. also somebody who is rarely sick. it is easysy under those circumstances to maintain the position that if you get sick, you are weak or if you succumb to an illness, you are weak. i think that it's been a large part of how is willful and criminal response to covid-19 has unfolded. also, the narcissism that is almost daily on display on ththe part of the president when he holds these press conferences -- as a to reportersrs clinical psychologist, y your sense of howow this s narcissis- it i is almost delusional at tis . everyone, according to him, is praising enormous accomplishments of his administration. you have o obviously seen this often as we have on television. your reaction to it? has been hisw he

entire life. for various come located reasons, donald understood from a very early age that in order to survive in the family, he had to present himself as somebody who was the best, the greatest, somebody who is never wrong therefore never had to admit mistakes. worse aseen this get people enable him. is the biggest question right now and it is the greatest danger. why are people in his inner circle continuing to enable this unfit and hasy is been, but now i don't know if we are dealing with the side effects from the dexamethasone that can include mania or what? but these displays of extraordinary narcissism are

delusional and are creating situation of untenable uncertaintnty. amamy: speing about howow donald trump dealals with illness and e family and among friends, we all know from research on his relationship with roy:, where the vicious anti-communist t who worked n next to joe mccarthy ws very close to donald trump, right? donald trtrump leaearnedt his knee. he would eventually die of aids. they were deeply close. talked and visited all the time. ohen, was dying, dodonald trump c himimself off from roy. then you have e the situation of your ownwn dad, mary, of your father who you talk about donald inmp leaving when he died

hospital. can you describe that for us? >> yeah. in both cases, it was certainly the illnesses that donald could not deal with but it was alslso the cause of the illness. in roy's case, his homosexuality -- which i i'm pretty s sure dod would d not have been comfortabe with. in my dad's case, his alcoholism family, thaty was considered a moral failure. when my dad at the age of 42 after finally being taken to the hospital after being ill for a couple of weeks at least, donald went to my grandparerents housee and my grandparents sasat in thr library waiting by the phone to hear from the doctors while my father was in an emergency room dying alone. in order to pass the time, instead of sitting with them, donald and mike aunt elizabeth went to the movies.

amy: and there your father was dydying without his family ther. >> yes. as covid patients must dodo. from vanityto read fair headlined "don jr. thinks trump isis acting crazy." is yourrump, jr. cousin, the son of the president. vanity fair goes on to say -- "the step outraged medical experts including the physician walter reed

this has all been denied, but your response to the enabling by the family? we saw at the first debate, who knows if there wiwill be another presidential debate. president trump says he's going to d do it but he is infected wh covid virus right now and vice president biden said he will not debate him if you still infected. you have the entire family sitting down, taking off their mask and despite i cleveland clinic doctor coming over to give them masks and say, please put them on, they refused. the entire group of them. do you find this likely what your cousin donald trump, , jr. said? i jujust your overall response o this. >> where to start. first of all, i have no idea why they can't hold these debates virtually. that having been said, it

doesn't sound right. nott of all, has donnie been paying attention? he is just realizing that donald has been behaving erratically?y? if he did say those things, doesn't susurprise me at all tht the rest of them lobbied against him and are going to continue to enable donald. these are the most arrogant, entitled peoplee -- that display at the first debate was grotesque. is, what i don't understand why they were not made to leave. they agreed to the debate rules. they broke the role and then they sat there, there's not, satisfied selves, potentially infecting all of the people around them. do they not understand that they are just as at risk as everybody else and they could be bringing the virus on to their oven? i know they don't care about

anybody else. donald doesn't care about anybody else. their children don't care about anybody else. i guess they are entitleled peoe who think they are immune and above it all. but they are not complete idiots. thank, unlike the people they are trying to pull a fast one on, they believe in science. for them to sit there and be so cavalier with her own health and the health of their families is extraordinary, but since they are like this, why do these people continue not to have to play by y the rules? juan: m mary trumump, i would le to go back to the first debate that you mentioned. of extraordinary display donald trurump, the presesidentn terms of refusing to abide by the rules s that his own c campn had set up -- w wallace tried everything possible to try to get him to o abide by the rules

and d was unsuccessful in doing so. as you watch that, w what was yr rereaction to the total lack of andect for any kind of rule order that the president displayed? >> it is totally on brand, first of all. i am not sure when he has ever shown respect for the rules are the norms. but mostly what i saw was a desperate man. i am fairly certain he probably went into this debate knowing he had to flood the zone, which is one e of his favorite tactics, o policyerious in-depth discussions because his administration has failed on the policy level across the board. so he did not want anybody, especially joe biden, to get in any valid points. but i think as soon he realized it wasn't working, he wasn't getting under joe biden skin and that talkiking points you prepad

in advdvance were not sticking,e lost control. i don't think anybody could have put a stop to it. it would have been great if they iuld have cut his mic, but think we're just going to see more of the same, especially if he is still on these medications that have such powerful and potentially debilitating side effects. juan: are you aware whether donald trump hasas ever been treated for any kind of psychological disorders? >> i am not aware. i would be shocked if he hadad been because to be treated for something is to admit you need the treatment. i don't see him having any self-awareness. and clearly, the people closest to him don't care about his well-being. if they did, he would still be at walter reed. trurump puttingnt

thosose secret servicece agentst risk by demanding to be brought outside and do a drive-by wave to his supporters? thethen it goes to household help, so to speak, the staff at the white house. we watched a as president trump walked up those steps to the first floor black -- alchemy of the white house -- first floor alchemy of the white house, and he took off his mask in a very deliberatete action, gave the thumbs up, did a salute and then did not put the mask back on as he walked in. he kept it all. let's talk about the household staff.f. c cooper had a harsh tweet criticizing this.

the staff at the white house, and we're talking about scores of people, nearly 100, we know at least to have tested positive but before the white house present rick terry got sick with covid or self, she said there no longer going to say numbers or names. they are overwrwhelmingly older african-american people of color . mary trump, if you can talk about his attitude to the people who work for him. >> one of the greatetest games n recent political history was that getting people to believe he cared about working people. this is beyond disgraceful. the people who work in the white house, many have been there for decades. they do their part to serve their country. these are dignified, dedicated working people. and he doesn't care about them. people need to o get this throuh their heads.

donald doesn't care about. he doesn't care about the american worker. he doesn't care about the people closest to him. there can't be any pretense anymore. scene atthe entire walter reed and the drive-by and the balcony where he took off the mask as if he were a tough guy -- she is not. first of all, it was a total -- was a perfect distillation of this administration. it is donald confronting his abysmal weakness by pretending he is strong. it is the people around him continuing to fail to rein him in either because they don't want to risk anything or they just don't care. and donald showing this complete disregard for anybody else's safety because he is so selfish. it has got to stop. i don't know what is going on with the republican party, but i've said this before and i will continue to say it. at this point, donald is

knowingly and willfully getting people in this country sick, and many of them are dying. there is no other way to put it but it is mass murder because he knows what could be done to stop it and he is continuing to do nothing and making it worse every single day through his lies and his behaviors. by decemberauci says this keeps u up, we could see something like 400,000 americans dead. last month, i want to switch gears, mary, you filed a lawsuit in manhattan accusing president hisp come his sister, and recently deceased brother robert trumump, your auaunt and u unclf civil conspiracy and fraud. you claim your father's siblings tricked you into signing away your state in the family company after your father fred trump jr. died. this and thisbout

lawsuit that you have just launched since we last spoke and the revelations that have come out by some of the same reporters reported on the information you got from your lawyer decades ago when you had a settlement with your family? >> >> sure. brilliaiantntil the suzannnne craig and russ buettnr published the article in october 2018 that i realized just what had been done to me and what was even worse than the fraud by family committed against me was how many decades they had spent committing the fraud. so it was a very well orchestrated, long-term stratety they had. so part of the reason they were able to pull it off is because my dad died when i was 16 and and became my trusteeees

fiduciaries and they just cut me in the dark about everything. i had no idea what i had share of. i had no idea what my partnerships meant or anything. so when my grandfather died when i was 36 years old, i still do not really know what i had. able to fix the numbers to their liking and those numbers were what we based the settlement on, now 20 years valuationsow their of my holdings were incredibly low. we are talking tiny fractions of what i was entitled to. people have asked me if i wrote this book for money. and the answer is, no, i wrote it because i'm a deeply concernened american citizen. the lawsuit, however, is about money. i would really like to have my stolen property returned to me. amy: i want to thank you so much

for joining us, mary trump, the only niece of president donald trump. she is a a clinical psychologis, and author of the best-selling book "too much and never enough: how my family created the world's most dangerous man." when we come back, a r reckonin. we talk about the greensboro mamassacre and what happenened t night with the greensbsboro city council. stay with us. ♪ [music break]

amy: "88 seconds in grgreensbor" by orchestral manoeuvres in the dark. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, ththe quarante report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. nearly 41 years after a white supremacist attack on anti-racist activists inin the town of f greensboro, north carolina, left five adad and the community reeling, on tuesday ninight the greensboro cityy

council passed a resolution apologizing for the massacre and the police department's complicityty in the killings. a warning to our television viewers, the footage we aree ababt to play y contains graphic violenence. the greensboro m massacre took place on november 3, 1979, whehn ku klux klansmen and american nazis opened fire on an anti-klan demonstration in greensboro. over the span of 88 seconds, the klan and nazis shot dead five anti-racist activists who were members of the communist workers party. 10 other activists were injured. no one was convicted in the massacre, but a jury did find the greensboro police liable for cooperatining with ku klux klann a wrongful death. this is a clip from the documentary "the guns of november 3" by jim waters, a news cameraperson who was on the scene and filmed that day. >> we can take our countryacack fromom t communi party. t take bacack om thehe

ggers. is timeo bandnd t togethernd have to fight in blood up to r knees, by god it is te to get rey to fight! give thewhat they want! fight for this country! >> help us! help us1 >> we need an ambulance. the state protects the klan. they came throu and they opened fire. ththe op f fire us and we fired back to protect ourselves. >> the klan or whoever it was jumped out and just started

shooting in the direction of the concentration of people. they seemed to be aiming at particular people. >> there were several police in the area who did nothing until after these murderers left. mutelyce came in and started arresting -- immediately started arresting those who had fallen. >> taken into custody, kicked in the head by the police. he was trying to help people. the police did this directly or indirectly. they set it up. [sobbing] amy: images and soundsf f the 1979 genensbormassssac fromm the jiwaters documentary "the gunsnsf november 3."

the greebororo cy counci resolution pasd tuesy acknowledges thathe greensboro popoliceeparartmt knewewhe attack was planned but failed to warn t p proteers. in this clip from a documentary about the massre by laaa seel, civil ghghts lyer r les pitts talks ouout thpolilice involvement. pitts reesesentethe e suivorss in a civil lawsuit againsthehe greensboroololice,ovovernmt officis,s, thelan n anthe nazis. >> w when we got involved as cil rights lawyers, hired and reesesenting the survivovors, te widows, we had e every incentive to tell the full story. and for the first time, the people had subpopoena power. and wewe found a trove, trunkskd of incriminatiting evidence rigt out of the police files if the policee knew, why didn't they stop it? why didn't they warn the demonstrators of the nine-car

caravan carrying the klan and nazis with all those weapons? the 10thth car was a an unmarked policece car with h the detectc, coopoper, who was the handler of the ininformant, and a photograrapher -- a polilice photogographer. they folollowed them in, parked, did not call f for help, did not do anything toto warn thee demonstratorors, and took photographs as they pulled out weapons and murdered people. amy: that's civil l rights lawyr lewis pitts. well, for more on the greensboro massacre and city cocouncil resosolution that just passed lt night, we go now to greensboro whwhere we are joinened by twowo survivors of the massacre reverend n nelson johnsoson and joyce johnhnson are co-e-execute directors s of the beleded commmmunity center of f greensbo and co-founders of the greensboro truth and reconcnciliation commission. welcome backck to democracy non! it i is great t to have e you w. the horror of this, , even 41 years latater.

reverend johnson, if you can talk about what the city council ruled, what they decideded last night? >> thank you. we are veryy p pleased to be ba. resololutionsen passed last night. that thert of it was greensbororo police knew well in s weree the klan a and nazi planning to attack the m march. they actually did not take any action, and the resolutution sas that, to inform those of us whoo were preparing to march that would culminate in a conferenene around how to engage racism in the textile mill. one of the most important things i i think that grerew out ofof t a resololion that the

it woulded that said award -- the money is not the important thing, let me say that. $1979 to five high s school students from a predominantly y black high schcl in the namame of the five people at were killed on november 3 the largest gathering that the cityty would sponsor, which will be the annual martin luther king jr. day. thesese students will compete or writing essays or doing some kind of artistic work on how to racism anand how to overcome that. we felt that was significant,

and we felt just saying plainly the police knew and c chose to o nothing -- in fact, they facilitated what we named now as the north americican death squq. they were a antiracisist to be , but theyey were sosome of the bt labor and community orgrganizers in the state. so it wasn't just a few people protesting the klan, we were building power within the textile industry with people from several plants. that is the work that people were doing. and bringing that into relationship with the historic like community in greensboro -- black community in greensboro where i have been working for over 15 years. ask joyceced like toto

johnson if you could talk a lilittle first of all, for ththe people who are listening and were not aware of this t traged, coululd you ta abobout who t the fifive people who werere killede and what you personally saw that day? thank you for that opportunity. and good morningng. powerfulpeople were organizers -- i dodon't mean jut in technical terms, but those forloved and sacrificed their fellow people here in nonorth carolina. they were a rainbow. sandi smith, happened to have been my best friend. one of the most difficult things i've ever done my life was to cacall her m mom in southh caroa until her that sandi was dead. sandi smith, african-american c clege hereeaduated

in greensbororo as the student body president and decided to delay her decision to o to nursining school to organizing e textile plalant because her dad workrk in the e textile mill and she understood thehe oppression that happened in those plans. then there was michael nathan. michael anand i were at thehe university at the same time.e. he wasas jewish and i was african-american. we were both in the mininity at the t time. he was one of ththose gentle git who worked very hard with fertility african-americans in north carolina. i would say the one anglo person in the group. he had fininished atarvard university and had a also been o the university of virginia a and similarly decided he needed to go to the placece where people were r really struggling hard. waller.en there was jim

jim waller, who was the husband of a dear friend of mine here in greensboro, we nicknknamed him blackbeard. he talked inin the medical scho. oftentimes he wawas a pediatricn to our childreren. he sacrificed a lot to organize workers in t the plant. i remember h him calling me one night. began understanand the unity off those whwho were poor.r. and then there is also -- who did i leave out? cauce, after r finishing collegeg went to work at a chicken factory. -- his parentser

had been cuban immigigrants. as i i said, we were really a rainbow. on that day, they had come together with the rest of us to have this gatheriring, this conference to o march the strers of g gensboro to draw people togethther to talk about how we together were going to combat racism and really build d a communitity where all wewere trd justly, fairly. where e there would be adequate medical care, there would be dignity and respect for all. they w were my fririen. jujuan: nelsonn johnson, i wantd to ask you -- and it is good to see you after so many decades, actuallyly when i knew you b ban those days. i i wanted to ask you aboutut hw north carolilina has changed and what this council l resolution means. clearly, the state is very didifferent than i it was back . you had a a huge influx o of lao immigrants. the research tribal area has drawn mamany -- triangle a areas

drawn mamany people e from aroun ththe country to the universiti, and it is been a huge e influx f africacan-americans from the noh retired d and went back to noroh carolina. so could y you talk about how ts reresolution reflects the changg nature of north carolina? it tol, if you compare how the e city reacted the days, weeks, and months after 1979, the change is fairly significant. that because of the grassroots work that continued in north carolina -- - and let e just lift up moral mondays and the poor people's campaign. we work closely with reverend barber on this. that there was a growing consciousness in the state and there were shifts in the electoral power, electing m more

progressive people to office. but there remains an undercurrent of historicacally racism m built upon a bed of falsehood that stilll exexists here. acknowledgewantnt to ththe decisions made last nigigy the city councilil. we are grateful for that, but we have n named it a people's victy because -- it is because of the persistence of f re and me people in this city and throughout the state that the state is gradually changg. but wen uphill climb, are grateful for the decionon stst night and we think it provides something positive to buil on. but we nt to he people

appreciatehemsels. they are the os who eleed a that with some staggering got to the acace of norng this delibatee american death sad that came in and st persons who we leaders in their field. bill was the chief organizer the largest dem producg factor in t wororld jim was the prident ofhe unio aholt riv. there re othereople in google pitions a plants -- y google positions in plan arndnd the ste. it is nojust a group of people opposing risism, b people builngngowowertrategally a there iso way thahathe textilile industry is not implicated in this. but wewe still think that north

-- it is nots moveded the worst state in the south. it has always tended to be somewhere in the m middle in the sense that it was last out of the u union and clolose to the t back in the union in the civil war. so it has always had that kikind of -- and coke reverend nelson, we have to wrap up the show but i wanted to say one thing. in the c clip we laid, the klansmen or nazi used the n-word. we asked y you if we should rept ththat. he said yes. we have 10 seconds. why? >> because the truruth matters, amy. >> people need to know the truth ,bout t history and that word which is very derogatory, is part of that history. it is that simple. amy: we want to ththank you both

for being with us, reverend nelson johnson and joyce johnson, survivors of the 1979 greensboro massacre, cofounders of the greensboro truth and reconciliation commission. of now coexecutive directors the beloved community center of greensboro, north carolina. ÷é÷é÷élédddddd@"@"@"

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