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tv   Witness  LINKTV  October 13, 2020 7:30am-8:01am PDT

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♪ >> i always make sure that the story that i am telling is impactful. always answering the simple quesestion why sululd peoplple are? this killing, it is a reflection of the post apartheid society that is poison.
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♪ [speakakg native l language] ♪ ♪
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>> good d morning. hi. are yourur are so happy. >> very happy. >> ok. >> you didn't sleep yesterday until 6:00 or 7:00. >> yeaeah. >> i am here tomorrow. [laughter]
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>> both the repoporter on a a bureau chief. >> there is a lot happening. today is a big trial k kicking off. there i is eight people appearing, including a seniorr police officer who used to work at the c central police e stati. the main story here is not only the trial, but i was recently in t touch witith my people the and there isis a a new head man that just t moved in l le a mon agago. it is like a let's wait and see who's next. >> p politics is securitized. it doesn't matter which party you belong to, yoyoneed to have a bodyguard. there is other stuff thahat cro
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up as we g go along. [inaudible] ♪ > 90, 100.. 256 messages.. >> i never intended to become a journalist. it was a careeeethat i alwlws tell peoeople, itt chosese me. >> yeah, we can talk. >> how many people were affect the by this alleged stealing of land? >> i really wanted to stop covering politics to get a sensee of what it wawas like if reallyly cut myy teeeeth into ii i discovered like a passssion f
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it that i didn't even k know existed. i started breaking cases in when it was literally almost every week that i was covering some murder of a politician. it wasn'n't something that was necessarily getting attttention. but then i realized this had to become bigger. people need to know about this. i have worked soso hard to make it part of the national agenda. ♪ ♪
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>> i pray we put it on today. >> yeah. >> when i am done here in 2017, i realizedtrange things seem to happen to cases, dockets going missing, or witnesses actually ending up being killed in some cases, until the killing of this one. that forced the issue into sharp focus. >> in here. >> i want to ask her if these are her own personal body
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guards or the ones providededy the state. > what thihings can we talk you about and wh can't we talk t to youou about? >> i don't wanant into delve to much into the other things. keep y your mind on the trial. >> the c ces that arare thehere. [inaudible] [speaking native language] >> where did they see us?
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[speaking native language] >> they know that you know. > yes. >> two consulates who were in he car on the day he was assassinated. at least the masterminds behind the hits. they have this story for us. [speaking native language] >> then what happened? [speaking native language]
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[speaking native languagage] >> the people that you believe -- >> yes, we believe that they are around us. >> how is that? >> as long as there is still in the mountain in the back. >> in the same position thahat you u are in, can you step this way? three, two, one, and rolling. >> t the two consulates have turned town being put in witness protection ahead of trial, saying they refuse to
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abdicate their you duty and the wards they serve. the pair say t they still draw strengngth frorom him, and his death was not in vain. ♪ ♪
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>> almost like a visible depiction of the inadequacies or the failures of the state. those remaining people who were killed, and really the thing is who was behind it? [speaking native language] [laughter] >> ok. [speaking native language] >> w what happened? [speaking nanative language]
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>> what hapapned? >> 2015. >> what happened? [saking natitive language]nd
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>> i'm very passionate, and i throw myself 110% into whatever i do. but then i did he test sometimes how demanding it is of every aspect of me and my life. there is so much to do, so many stories to tell. you just never get the rest time that you need. >> thank you. >> are you daylight? >> no. i will tell you about my houses i am alwayays tired. even i go to gym, and i a am always exhausted.
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the other day i clapsd twice in one day. >> what do you mean? >> i fainted twice i in one day. they were like do you want to go to a hospital here? no. i would rather go back home. i get to the doctor's office, and i ritolaly claps at the doctctor's office. >> wow.. -- and and i literally claps at the doctotor's office. >> do o you think you are writi a book about it?t? what i'm looking for is to get a bodyguard who doublesesp as a hit man. most of the bodyguards double up as hit menen. >> it is ann occupational -- >> i don't think we are targets. that is why. >> it cocould be ignorance abou it. whwhen i was younger, i used to
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have those things. i used to think i would return that. theyey told me you've got to we the bulletproof vest, and i refused. to me it wouldld be a sign of weaknessss. now that i am o older, y you ca wear them. ♪ >> it is not easy to ask people to continue to talk about things that hurt them, especially with a case like that. there are still a lot of unanswered questions. you don't want to feel like you are exploiting someone's pain, even though it is through just trying to make sure that the story doesn't die.
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hello? >> [speaking native language] >> i i am from newews room, afr. [speakaking native language] letter, bybye. all right, bye. > i think the assassination of him is what drove me into things wlike the hell is going on. but there is not one person there. is a much larger context to it, like the deterioration of the moral fiber of the society.
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[speaking native language] >> he was still busy. >> yes, he wasas a busy man. [speaking native language] >> we are missingngim. [speaking native language]
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>> just the basics. and then whatever else i need, i can come back and finish. >> all right. >> my parents do worry about the risks that come with the job. but i think they have seen the amount of passion that i have. you can't stop me once i have got started. >> and what angle are you looking at? >> the government makes political killings s possible. this createded an environment f people to do that. >> ok, cool. it will feed through the angle
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i was just speaking about. actually it has now become an industry to deal with it that way. >> bye-bye. ♪ >> the trifle t the so-called cleveland eight has been postponed. i am joined by news from africa's bureau chief horton-tucker is inin studio th afternoon. share with me your experience of covering issues around the violence, the killilings at cleveland'ss hosostel, and you have been tracking other political k killings, incluludi anotother one. tatalk to me about cleveland's itself. > it has now become almost a business, the business of f killing and d hit m men has bec so prorominent becauause of f e hihigh level of unenemployment. >> death is always a heart weight away.
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> literally death is a heartbeat away.y. this whohole netwowork that is to have involved policeman, said to haveve involved politicians. during t the mission of i inqui wewe had h heard it was a place whwhere politicians g go s shop for hit memen. the problem is s the weapons th are usused for these assassinations are not legal. they are not traceable. these weapons are either stolen , or they go back as far as the rmed struggle. >> i'm soo tired of the killili in thiss province. i don't really get disillusioned. i don't think there is much time for that. sometimes i think i am just going to fall apartment. but i also just keep going, keep going because you c can't topop.
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you can't start a story like that and just do it half way. ♪qéaawcúoúóc?qoqoqoxoúoúoúoúoqob a
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