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♪ >> i always make sure that the story that i am telling is impactful. always answering the simple question why should people e? this killing, it is a reflection of the post apartheid society that is poison. ♪
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[speaking native language] ♪ ♪
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>> good morning. hi. are your are so happy. >> very happy. >> ok. >> you didn't sleep yesterday until 6:00 or 7:00. >> yeah. >> i am here tomorrow. [laughter]
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>> both the reporter on a bureau chief. >> there is a lot happening. today is a big trial kicking off. theres eighpeople appearing, including a senior police officer who used to work at the central police station. the main story here is t only the trial, but i was recently in touch with people there, and there is a new head man that just moved in like a month ago. it is like a let's wait and see who's next. >> politics is securited. it doesn't matter which party you belonto, you need to have a bodyguard. there is other stuff that crops up as we go along.
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[inaudible] ♪ > 9 100 256 messages. >> i never intended to become a journalist. it was a career that i always tell people, it chose me. >> yeah, we can talk. >> how many people were affect the by this alleged stealing of land? >> i really wanted to stop covering politics to get a sense of wh it was like if i really cut my teeth into it. i discovered like a passion r it that i didn't even know
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existed. i started breaking cases in when it was literally almost every week that i was covering some murder of a politician. it wasn't somethinghat was necessarily getting attenti. but then i realized this had to become bigger. people need to know about this. i have worked so hard to make it part of the national agenda. ♪ ♪
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>> i pray we put it on today. >> yeah. >> when i am done here in 2017, i realized strange things seem to happen to cases, docts going missing, or witnesses actually ending up being killed in some cases, until the killing of this one. that forced the issue into sharp focus. >> in here. >> i want to ask her if these are her own personal body guards or the ones providedy
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the state. >> what things can we talk to you about and what can'te talk to you about? >> i don't wt into delve too much into the other things. keep your mind on the trial. >> the cases that are there. [inaudible] [speaking native language] >> where did they see us?
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[speaking native language] >> they know that you know. > yes. >> two consulates who were in he caree on the day he was assassinated. at least the mterminds behind the hits. they have this story for us. [speaking native language] >> then what happened? [speaking native language]
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[speaking native language] >> the people that you believe -- >> yes, we believe that they are around us. >> how is that? >> as long as there is still in the mountain in the back. >> in the same position that u are in, can you step this way? three, two, one, and rolling. >> the two consulates have turned town being put in witness protection ahead of trial, saying they refuse to
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abdicate their you duty and the wards they serve. the pair say they still draw strength from him, and his death was not in vain. ♪ ♪
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>> almost like a visible depiion of the inadequacies or the failures of the state. those remaining people who were killed, and really the thing is who was behind it? [speaking native language] [laughter] >> ok. [speaking native language] >> what happene [speaking native lanage]
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>> what happened? >> 2015. >> what happened? [speaking native language]
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>> i'm very passionate, and i throw myself 110% into whatever i do. but then i did he test sometimes how demanding it is of every aspect of me and my life. there is so much to do, so many sties to tell. you just never get the rest time that you need. >> thank you. >> are you daylight? >> no. i will tell you about my house. i am always tired. even i go to gym, and i am always exhausted. the other day i clapsd twice in
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one day. >> what do you mean? >> i fainted twice in one day. they were like do you want to go to a hospital here? no. i would rather go back home. i get to the doctor's office, and i ritolaly claps at the doctor's office. >> wow. -- and and literally claps at the doctor's office. >> do yo think you are writing a book about it? what i'm looking for is to get a bodyguard who doubles up as a hit man. most of the bodyguards double up as hit men. >> it is an occupational -- >> i don't think we are targets. that is why. it could ignoran about it. when i was younger, i used to have those things.
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i used to think i would return that. they told me you've got to wear the bulletproof vest, and i refused. to me would be a sign of weakness. now that i am older, you can wear them. ♪ >> it is not easy to ask people to continue to talk about things that hurt them, especially with a case like that. there are still a lot of unanswered questions. you don't want to feel like you are exploiting someone's pain, even though it is through just trying to make sure that the story doesn't die.
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hello? >> [speaking native language] >> i am from news room, africa. [speakinnative lanage] letter, bye. all right, bye. > i think the assassination of him is what drove me into things wlike the hell is going on. but there is not one person there. is a much larger context to it, like the deterioration of the moral fiber of the society. [speaking native language]
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>> he was still busy. >> yes, he was a busy man. [speaking native language] >> we are missing him. [speaking native language]
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>> just the basics. and then whatever else i need, i can come back and finish. >> all right. >> my parents do worry about the risks that come with the job. but i think they have seen the amount of passion that i have. you can't stop me once i have got started. >> and what angle are you looking at? >> the government makes political killings possible. this created an environment for people to do that. >> ok, cool. it will feed through the angle
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i was just speaking about. actually it has now become an industry to deal with it that way. >> bye-bye. ♪ the trifl the so-called cleveland eight has been postponed. i am joined by news from africa's bureau chief horton-tucker is in studio this afternoon. share with me your experience of covering issues around the violence, the killings at cleveland's hostel, and you have been tracking other political killings, including another one. talk to me about cleveland's itself. >> it has now become most a businessthe business of killing and hiten hasecome so prominent because of the high level of unemploymen >> deaths always a heart weight away.
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>> lerally death is a heartbeat away. this whole network tha is said to have involved policeman, said to have involved politicians. duringhe mission of inquiry, we h heard it was a pla where politicians go shopping for hit me the problem is the weapons tt are used for these assassinations are not legal. they are not traceable. these weapons are either stolen , or they go back as far as the rmed struggle. >> i'm soired of the killings in this province. i don't really get disillusioned. i don't think there is much time for that. sometimes i think i am just going to fall apartment. but i also jt keep going, keep going because you can't top.
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