01/19/21 01/19/21 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from new york, this is democracy now! >> those who incited attack on the people's house do not get to talk about healing and unity. they have torn this country apart. they have stoked the fire and then headed the gasoline to donald trump. amy: on donald trump's final full day as president, we speak to one of his fiercest critics congresswoman rashida tlaib of michigan. we will talk about the

insurrection at the capitol, impeachment, president-elect biden's agenda for his 100 days and the flint water crisis as former michigan governor rick snyder faces criminal charges. then we look at the ireasing radicalization of police offirs across the country. >> a lot of police departments have iored the fact any buaucraciehave become increasingly radicalized, extremist right-wing ideology. amy: plus, we look at president-elect biden's response to the insurrection. mr. biden: they were not protesters. do not dare call them protesters. they were a riotousmob, domestic terrorists. amy: the aclu is warning that biden's support of a new domestic terror law will end up being used to target black and brown people, not just white supremacists.

all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. i'm amy goodman. the world health organization warned monday wealthy nations are hoarding covid-19 vaccines at the expense of the world's poor, leaving millions of elderly people vulnerable even as younger, healthy people in richer nations get vaccinated. the who chief dr. tedros adhanom ghebreyesus spoke monday from geneva one year after first the cases of covid-19 were detected outside china. >> i need to be blunt. the world is on the brink of catastrophe. and the price of this failure will be paid with lives and livelihoods in the world's poorest countries.

amy: he warned wealthy countries are circumventing the u.n.'s program to ensure the fair distribution of covid-19 vaccines, known as covax, driving up prices and jumping to the front of the line. this comes as worldwide confirmed coronavirus cases topped 24 million, with over 2 million documented deaths from covid-19. the united states' death toll from covid-19 has topped 400,000 -- by far the worst in the world. california has become the first state to top 3 million cases. in los angeles county, where about 10 people are dying of covi19 everyour, offials haveuspend air-qlity regulationto all for me crematns afteruneral hes and spitals ceeded tir capacityo store dies of e dead ident-elect den's incomi chieof staffon klainarns thu.s. dea tl will rch a

half-aillion bthe end februa. er the wkend, thtrump administtion saiit would lift cov restricons on ternatiol travels, but j biden's transition team and neatly shut down trump's plans. governors around the u.s. are accusing the trump administration of misleading them about vaccine supplies after "the washington post" reported the u.s. vaccine reserve was exhausted when health and human services secretary alex azar vowed to release more doses. here in new york, mayor bill de blasio warned the city will have to halt vaccinations next week without a major resupply. new york governor andrew cuomo on monday contacted the drug maker pfizer to see if he could purchase doses directly from the company, circumventing the federal government. elsewhere, california's top epidemiologist has ordered a pause to the distribution of nearly a third-of-a-million

doses of moderna's covid-19 after a batch was linked to a higher than usual number of allergic reactions. the vaccines taken out of circulation represent about 10% of california's total supply. the fbi says it's vetting all 25,000 national guard troops deploying to washington, d.c., for the inauguration over fears of an insider attack by soldiers sympathetic to president trump and the insurrection he incited on january 6. the fbi is also warning armed insurrectionists might pose in national guard uniforms in order to launch attacks. the warnings came amid an unprecedented security lockdown in washington, d.c. the coast guard has closed the potomac and anacostia rivers, and heavily armed soldiers are patrolling a hardened security perimeter around the capitol. the national mall will be closed to the public during wednesday's inauguration. in place of the usual crowds, officials have placed nearly

200,000 american flags on the mall. the fbi says it's focusing on far-right militia groups as it continues to rest leaders of the january 6 insurrection at the capitol. in texas, federal prosecutors say capitol rioter guy reffitt threatened to murder his wife and children if they turned him in -- allegedly telling his family, "traitors get shot." reffitt is a member of the far-right 3 percenters militia group. federal agents also arrested bryan betancur, a self-professed white supremacist who was wearing a gps ankle bracelet as a condition of his probation on a prior burglary charge. betancur was photographed at the january 6 riots posing with a confederate battle flag. on monday, the fbi arrested riley june williams of pennsylvania, charging her with stealing a laptop from the office of house speaker nancy

pelosi. an fbi complaint accuses williams of seeking to send the laptop to russia's foreign intelligence service. meanwhile, "the new yorker" has published harrowing footage of the capitol insurrection showing how a violent mob broke through police lines, pounded on locked doors, shouting "treason!" and breached the senate chambers looking for lawmakers to confront. amy: the video, shot by veteran war correspondent luke mogelson, shows a ragtag group of white men rifling through senate papers. they praise president trump and efforts by republican senators josh hawley and ted cruz to overturn the electoral college vote, pose for selfies, and

stand on the senate dais for a prayer led by qanon conspiracy theorist jacob chansley. he is seen in the video leaving a threatening note for vice president mike pence. >> it is only a matter of time. justice is coming. and, after headlines, we will speak with rashida talib about the capitol insurrection. the senate is holding confirmation hearings today for five of president-elect joe biden's cabinet nominees -- retired general lloyd austin for defense secretary, alejandro mayorkas for secretary of homeland security, antony blinken for secretary of state, avril haines for director of national intelligence, and janet yellen for treasury secretary. meanwhile, biden has nominated gary gensler to head the securities and exchange commission and rohit chopra to head the consumer financial protection bureau. president-elect biden is promising to issue a slew of executive orders on his fit

day office, overturningome of preside trump's most contentious acons. biden said to extend were trains on evictions and foreclosures, extend a freeze on federal student loan payments, and halt accumulating interest on those loans. biden is also planning to order a mask mandate for interstate travelers and visitors to federal buildings. in his inaugural address, he will ask u.s. residents to commit to wearing masks for at least 100 days. biden will cancel trump's travel ban targeting majority muslim nations and also plan to propose an immigration bill providing an eight year path to citizenship for undocumented people in the u.s. biden will also sign an order returning the united states to the paris climate agreement. and in an historic move, biden is expected to order the cancellation of the permit for the $8 billion keystone xl pipeline. in its final days, the trump

administration has issued a series of new energy and environmental regulations to benefit the fossil fuel industry and other big polluters. on friday, the u.s. forest service issued a final environmental impact statement paving the way for a massive copper mine in arizona's tonto national forest, which is sacred land to the san carlos apache tribe. interior secretary david bernhardt signed an order to allow mineral leasing across 9.7 million acres in western alaska. the interior department has also decreased how much oil, gas, and coal companies must pay to drill on public lands and waters. other last-minute decisions by the trump administration could could result in less protection in the pacific northwest for the northern spotted owl, which faces extinction, and new exemptions for oil refiners, steelmakers and landfills from future carbon emission limits. in immigration news, advocates are denouncing the trump administration's ongoing deportation of asylum seekers just days before the

biden's inauguration. the guardian reports there are concerns deportation flights to africa could depart the u.s. as late as today. last year, dozens of asylum seekers from cameroon accused immigration and customs enforcement of torturing them and coercing them into signing their deportation order. this comes as a 40-year-old man from saint martin is scheduled to be deported today to haiti, even though he's not from the island nation d has lid in the u.s. since he was five years old. the trump administration executed dustin higgs early on saturday, two days after it executed cory johnson. the two black men were the 12th and 13th individuals to be put to death after the trump administration brought back the federal death penalty last year. six of the executions occurred since the november election. on friday, supreme court justice sonia sotomayor criticized what she called the administration's "unprecedented, breakneck timetable of executions."

president-elect joe biden is expected to halt federal executions once in office. the national security agency has a new top lawyer, michael ellis, a trump loyalist. he is expected to begin the job today on the final day of the trump administration. on saturday, acting defense secretary christopher miller ordered the nsa's director general to immediately hire ellis despite widespread concern over his lack of experience and his role as a republican operative. house speaker nancy pelosi has vowed to challenge the decision. in a letter to miller, pelosi wrote -- "the efforts to install him or 'burrow' him into a highly sensitive intelligence position 72 hours prior to the beginning of a new administration manifest a disturbing disregard for our national security." president trump is expected to issue as many as 100 pardons and commutations today on his final full day in office. this comes as more details emerge about how allies of trump

have personally profited from people seeking pardons. "the new york times" reports an associate of rudy giuliani told cia torture whistleblower john kiriakou a pardon is "going to cost $2 million." kiriakou declined the offer but he did pay $50,000 to a former top trump campaign advisor for help securing a pardon. if a pardon is granted, the former advisor will get an additional $50,000 bonus. in uganda, opposition presidential candidate bobi wine is under house arrest following his loss in recent elections which wine alleges were rigged. winds home was raided by the military after he spoke out against possible election fraud. last month he temporarily suspended his campaign after members of his team were injured and his car was shot at.

russian police arrested prominent kremlin opposition leader alexei navalny at the moscow airport as he arrived to russia sunday. navalny, a vocal critic of ruian president vladimir putin, was poisoned last august with novichok, a banned military-grade nerve agent. he had been staying in germany after nearly dying. a judge on monday ordered he be put in pre-trial detention for a month. in response, navalny released a video clip urging supporters to protest. >> so i am calling upon, don't be silent. resist. take to the streets. nobody will protect us but ourselves. but we are so many if we want to achieve something, we will achieve it. amy: in florida, rebekah jones -- a data scientist who helped build florida's coronavirus tracking dashboard -- has turned herself in to the police after the state issued an arrest warrant against her. jones is accused of hacking confidential data from the florida department of health, allegations she denies.

police raided jones's home in tallahassee last month, seizing her computer and phone and holding her family at gunpoint. she says she's being targeted in retaliation for refusing to falsify the number of florida's covid-19 cases. jones accused florida's republican governor n desantis of sending the gestapo after her. over the weekend, she wrote on twitter -- "the governor will not win his war on science and free speech. he will not silence those who speak out." jones had recently moved to washington, d.c., following the traumatic raid. to see our interview with rebekah jones, visit our website democracynow.org. in guatemala, military and police forces blocked and broke up a caravan of thousands of honduran asylum seekers over the weekend as they headed north. videos surfaced of military and police assaulting asylum seekers, including children, with tear gas and batons. several were injured. this is angie osorio, a honduran asylum seeker.

>> the officers have mistreated us. they have treated us like dogs. "go to country," they say. that is not fair. the children are not at fault. what they are doing is wrong. we have fled many things that are happening in honduras. it is not fair we are treated like this, like dogs, ike animals. amy: the caravan of some 9000 asylum seekers left honduras last week as people are fleeing the devastation left behind by two back-to-back hurricanes that battered the region last november and an economic crisis that worsened during the pandemic. hundreds of them began returning to honduras after being apprehended by guatemalan officials. cbs news reports 700 refugee children -- whose families were forced to stay in mexico while their asylum cases are resolved in the u.s. -- ended up crossing into the u.s. alone. since 2019, tens of thousands of asylum seeking families have

been stuck in mexico due to the trump administration's so-called migrant protection protocols program. the program has forced asylum seekers to wait in crowded and squalid refugee camps across dangerous northern mexican towns while their cases are heard in u.s. courts. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. when we come back, we will be joined by detroit congressmember rashida talib. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break]

amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. i'm amy goodman. i am joined by juan gonzalez in new brunswick, new jersey. juan: welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. amy: on donald trump's final full day as president, the senate is holding confirmation hearings for five of

president-elect joe biden's cabinet nominees as biden prepares for his inauguration wednesday along with kamala harris. biden has already outlined a day agenda of executive actions one to address the raging coronavirus pandemic and roll back key parts of trump's agenda. on wednesday, he says he will repeal trump's travel ban for citizens of majority-muslim countries, move to rejoin the paris climate accord, and issue a mask mandate on federal property. biden also plans to unveil a sweeping immigration bill to offer an eight-year path to citizenship for an estimated 11 million people living in the u.s. without legal status. meanwhile, trump plans to leave washington, d.c., wednesday morning and continues make false claims of election fraud after congress impeached him last week for a second time after the failed insurrection at the capitol on january 6. among those with an agenda for incoming president biden are members of the squad. and in a minute, we'll be joined by congressmember rashida talib

of michigan. this is congressmember tlaib speaking during the house impeachment proceedings last wednesday. >> those who incited an attack on the people's house do not get to talk about healing and unity. they have torn this country apart. they have stoked the fire and then head of the gasoline the donald trump. dr. king once said, not merely the absence of tension, it is under the presence of justice. today we must embody those words . we must understand that peace must be centered in truth in action. we cannot sit idly by after a violent attempted coup and allow lies and hate to continue. amy: that was wednesday. on monday, congressmember pramila jayapal, chair of the congressional progressive caucus, tweeted -- "the senate reconvenes tomorrow. they should immediately convict donald trump and hold him fully accountable for inciting a

deadly attack on our country." for more, we're joined by congressmember rashida to lead. it is great to have you back on democracy now! if you can start off by talking about what is about to happen tomorrow. it is not only the inauguration. we want you to talk about this unprecedented credit down in your adopted city right now, the capitol of the united states, but also this slew of first executive orders. it looks like the progressive wing of the democratic party, the largest caucus in congress, has certainly had -- held sway on a number of these issues. >> i think many of us are concerned but it is just a continuation of this administration. the trump administration hasn't fully been transparent nor had moral values, don't care if it

is the death penalty . there is been a wave o f incread, ise tnk,hi hate in this violent agenda by the current administration. i'm not surprised as all of us were celebrating the legacy of dr. king, that he was still signing a number of executive orders and also continuing with appointments and other kinds of measures that are unprecedent. i think it is important to understand just how dangero this man is even after he leaves office. has spewed out this agenda that i don't think is goin to go anywhe. i think it will continue -- he will continue to lead this type of whatever people are calling, insurrection, i call it violent attacks on our country. i think it is really important that we as a country realize

accountality is extremy important here. from those in congress that enabled him, from those who continue to support him, that they all need to be held equally accountable as well as donald trump. i hope there is an awakening in the senate, but i have been waiting for that to happen for quite a while. for leader mcconnell and many others to finally say enough is enough, impeach and convict -- forever impeach twice president donald trump. what he did was pretty unprecedented. amy, i to be honest. if it were somebody who looked like me, if it was president barack obama, there would be no question that he would be held accountable. he would be convicted. he would be removed from office. he would never ever be able to run again. he would not be able to get public benefits. he has truly sent us on a

dangerous path that i don't thing is going to go away very easily even after he leaves office. juan: congrsmember, could you talk a little -- your own experience during that insurrection? according to the staff and a reprentative ayanna pressley's office, panic buttons had been ripped out? what have you heard about that? tell us what you yourself experienced that day. >> that day i was not on campus, even though i was scheduled to speak on the floor -- michigan was one of the states that was going to be objected by the republicansome the electoral college, so i was planning on speaking for close to five minutes on theouse floor. fortunately, i was not on campu nor was i near the attacks. i started to hear about this, checking in with media my michigan delegation members who were on the floor.

i did not experience similar trauma media my colleagues did. it sure angered me. the place i work, the place i fight for my district every single day, under attack. and so easily done. i kept seeing video after video of these folks carrying a confederate flag, chanting "nancy! nancy!" try to find her, trying to kidnap members of the congress, calling us the traders when they are the ones attacking our democracy. it deftly, for my team and i who this past week did a session around self-care and trauma, understanding the place that we work and we go and advocate and fight for our people was literally surrounded by gun

carrying violent folks who had every intention of hurting members of congress or anyone that wanted to hold trump accountable. i think is important for listeners to please take a moment -- i know it is hard, but i did. i listened to the speech this corrupted president gave to the crowd before they headed toward the capital. it was very clear what his orders were. and they followed them very clearly and yet again, as media my colleagues continue to enable him and support what happened. "i'm against violence" they say they continue to say that is not what they were here to support. it is very clear from intelligence they had every intention of kidnapping. they left human feces throughout the hallway, carrying confederate flags, chanting looking for speaker pelosi while one of my colleues live

tweeted that location of the speaker. this could have been so much worse than what we saw. i mean, just the image of the noose outside the capitol in hopes that were going to be able to lynch the vice president of the united states for following our democracy, following what the will of the people work, which was to make sure that joe biden was the next president of the united states. juan: i would ask you about some of the initiatives of present like biden, both some of the executive ordersreversal of the ban on travel from muslim majority countries come and also the xl pipeline. the indication he is apparently going to try to move quickly on immigration reform, something

that has stymied in congress now for more than 16 -- what was it, 14, 15 years? since 2006 there have been a tense to try to get immigration reform through congress. did you get a sense this will change in the session of the new congress? >> i mean, for myself and many of my sisters and a service and others, we are asking for a sense of urgency in moving forward and trying to address the broken systems that have left so many of our families in pain, many of which are present policies -- hate and discriminatory policies that have torn our families apart, left them in some ways -- their children and others again with trauma, who knows how long it will take, to even address that? it will be generations of our families that have been impacted. should have been addressed years

ago. yes, from a immigrant neighbors in the 13th congressional district, what i hear from them is this is great. they want the details and they want to make sure someone like them who has been here for years , has been part of our community for decades, raising their children here with mine, that they're going to have a pathway to citizenship. that it will not take another decade or take these kinds of leaps of bureaucracy that really will delay for them to be able to move on with their lives and not live in fear. amy: i want to ask you, congressmember rashida tlaib, about the experience of your colleagues who were there. you are vaccinated right arnd that tim >> i had the second vaccination -- and i never get sick -- and i got all the side effects. literally woke up with fever, thought it was covid, got the test done.

all of this me trying to make sure i was going to be able to get to the floor to speak on behalf of my state. but that is when the lockdown happened and i kept hearing reports and checking in with colleagues. amy: so you had ayana pressley, the first african-american congress woman elected from massachusetts, her staff realizing when they were locked in the office that somehow these panic buttons -- is this true, that you all havany offices, were ripped out, something they had never seen before? yeah prami jayapal and cogs number: from new jersey, both testing positive for covid as they were forced to be in a secure location. closely with republican colleagues who refused to wear masks, now both of their husbands also have tested positive for covid-19? >> i think representative presley's staff folks to make

public the panic button was not there. it did make many of us, including myself and others, to make sure ours was intact. mine was. i don't know how much we can share of the whereabouts of these buttons, but i know -- before we even got there, part of a process or protocol for members of the united states congress. i think for many of my colleagues, including representative presley and jayapal, representative coleman, many of my colleagues that were in that room, undisclosed room, i think we all watched as some of the newer members, once that continued to enable the president in the violence on our democracy come on our people, they mocked one of my colleagues who gently and very gracefully

asked for them to wear masks. on top of this attack, many of which heard the shooting outside of the house chambers, some of my colagues were telling me the next day, one who has been there longer than i have said, he was expressing post-traumatic stress, realizing his whole body was in shock. continued hearing stories from many of my colleagues about just how unprepared and the kind of shock that they all went through and experiencing that and hearing not only the shting but also the cnts and allowed crowd screaming outside of the houselendria ocasio-cortez saying she feared republican lawmakers would lead rioters to her if she joined him

in secure room. she said "i thought i was going to die," which leads us to the demand for an investigation of people like mikie sherrill saying she saw these tours the day before of what turned out to be the rioters, domestic terrorists, the next day, can only be invited in by congressmembers or their staff and the -- what the impeachment trial would look like, why there is a demand to do it while mcconnell is still inharge when the democrats are going to be taking over in just a matter of days -- is that right, the senate? >> i think it is important to understand there is a tremendous breakdown of trust among many of us with some of our colleagues. some of which were life tweeting, continued to even tweet and speak on the floor during the impeachment -- the second impeachment.

they are almost enabling speeches about what happened and how spoon io the conspiracy theo that this was a stolen election, continuation of them pushing back against this rhetoric that is real coming from this white supremacist in chief, president trump, and you can see this as we sat there in shock after everything we've all gone through together, including themselves, i watched one by one continue to support what happened. they claim they are not against violence, but they are supporting a violent president. there supporting someone that gave that speech to the ground that really gave them the green light of going ahead and doing what they did on january 6. i think with impeachment, people want to move quickly.

we what a days ago for the senate to convene and -- what you see now not only with executive orders -- who knows what he will do with pardons. he is appointing people. understand, this is a very dangerous president. this is a peon that is threat to our country and our nation. a sense of urgency -- have those that enabled him, including mitch mcconnell, to finally wake up and hold him accountable. it is important the future of our nation but also to send a strong message that it is over, enough. enough with the conspiracy theories that have led to the kind of hate agenda but also underlining racism when they target communities like detroit and communities that i represent. i think it is important to understand for all of us, we wanted them to move quickly. we are seeing what we are saying the last few days -- who knows what he will be able to do.

i think he is a very minute danger to our country. juan: i would ask about a big story closer to home in michigan, the former governor rick snyder on thursday led not guilty to two counts of willful neglect of duty in relationship to the 2014 flint water scandal. your reaction to his indictment and to the significance of an dieting a former governor -- indicting a former governor? >> it is important that those elected, including the governor, is held to a higher standard. people's health were in his hands. they did for months of even a year i believe, from the flint community and keptaying the water was safe. i want people to understand this

is not only about getting clean drinking water, it is the fact many died because of the poisoning. many of our children in flint are now having side effects and it will forever have led in their dna that could be passed down to their children. for many of the flint families, they are already sick. they wanted to see justice. no matter who he is or she is and whoever was involved that hid the fact they were drinking poison water, be held accountable. that includes the governor, includes jail time, the kind of justice i think many folks want to see. but they also have testified in the house oversight committee that we had a hearingn my district that they also want to see medical coverage. they want to see courts holding him accountable. but coverage for them to be able to take care of themselves now that they are sick, that they

have children at need extra care, many of which are struggling to learn in school. there has to be a combination of justice in that sense of holding the governor accountable for what he did knowingly and intentionally, criminal negligence, but also to make sure we are taking care of the people that the government -- governor snyder and others allowed to get sick. the horror stories i'm hearing currently still is so many are suffering from the aftermath with illnesses and with other side effects of placing their bodies with blood. amy: you are a palestinian-american and you have made history as one of two first american women in congress, along with ilhan omar. i want to get your reaction to -- welcome israel has vaccinated more of its population, something like 20% of its citizens, including jewish

settlers on the west bank. it is been hailed around the world, the most vaccinated population. yet palestinians have not been vaccinated. you have family in the west bank. human rights watch, among many others, and putting 70 palestinians, have demanded that covid-19 vaccines be provided to the more than 4.5 million palestinians living in the west bank and gaza. can you discuss this? >> it is important to understand israel is a racist state and they would dy palestinians like my grandmother access to a vaccine that they don't believe she is any google human being that desers to live, deserves to be protected from this global pandemic. it is hard to watch as the apartheid state continues to deny their o neighbors, the people that breathe the same r they breathe come that live in the se communities. you can put a settlement where

you want but on the other side of that wall is a farm community, village where's my guess where my grandmother lives and family members i know are trying to live a good life, free life, free from this oppressive policy, racist policies that deny them access to public health, deny them -- it is important we call them out. our country continueto enable that country and enable tanyahu who continues to spew anti-arab rhetoric that allows ballast for palestinians to continue in a way that is so inhumane and does not follow international human rights. i think it is important, if anything, i hope my colleagues come our country sees what the palestinians have been trying to tell us very long time that israel has no intention of ever

being caring or allow equality or freedom for them as their neighbors. you can see it with the distribution of vaccines. you also saw it with the testing and tracing. my family told me they did not have access to testing. they would get some side effects and they would use the small little house they had in quarantine a family member. they had no access at all for any preventative measures, any medication. that continues on. and we allow, enabling israel to continue to do that. they have the power to distribute that vaccine to the palestinian people, their own neighbors. feet away from where they live. many of which could expose them and their family. if anything, it reiterates what the paleste people and human rights groups have been telling us is this is an apartheid state. amy: rashida tlaib, thank you for being with us, democratic

congressmember to michigan's 13th congressional district. there is not a lot to talk about of joy during the pandemic and insurrection times, but congratulations on your new little puppy, tayta. maybe one day my new little puppy will get to meet yours. >> it truly is a blessing. amy: when we come back, we will look at the increasing radicalization of police officers across the country. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break]

amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. we are going to talk about police around the country right now. buzzfeed is reporting at least 28 off to the law enforcement officers traveled to washington on january 6 to support president trump's efforts to overturn the election. some are believed to have stormed the citolnd in e dely insurction ac left ve peopl dd, iluding a capitol police ficer. this comes as the fbi says it is betting all 25,000 national guard troops flying to washington, d.c., for joe biden's inauguration over fears of an insider attack by soldiers sympathetic to president trump. the fbi is warning armed insurrectionists might pose in uniforms to launch attacks. we're joined now by buzzfeed reporter albert samaha.

his latest piece is headlined "some black officers say their departments ignored their white colleagues' radicalization." talk about what you found, albert. >> when the capitol was being strummed, one of the first things i did was contact my o sources in police departments and reach out to some new ones. a lot of cops who have been calling attention to the increasing radicalization of their colleagues were not surprised to find out there were dozens of officers at the rally and maybe even at the riots because for many years, they have tried to draw attention to the departments that some of their colleagues have expressed white supremacist beliefs, affiliated with white extremist groups a lot of black lives matter try to protect the police , the departments have done nothing and ignored the fact many of their officers have been sliding down the slippery slope

of extremism. juan: albert, i am wondering, you say increasing radicalization but it has been my sense that having covered police over many years, i'm thinking back to the 30 years ago the eric adams, who is now a mayoral candidate in new york, then was an african-american police officer, repeatedly told me about white supremacist groups in the early 1990's harassing black officers in the ranks. is it that they have become increasingly radicalized or they are bolder in terms of making their views known to the public, especially through social media? so many of these cops and x military or military people boasted on social media of what they were doing. >> that is a good point. i think what a lot of officers have pointed out is this generation -- white supremacist

eology in law enforcement is as old as law-enforcement under the u.s. but for this particular generation, a lot of officers i've spoken to say they have began to notice a change in tone, rhetoric around the time ferguson ter an officer ot and killed michael brown in the black lives matter protests began. that is when officers began to notice a divide. some officers were pro-reform, sympathize with the racial juste protesters were calling for an another side of officers who essentially saw anyone who critiqued their police behavior as enemies of law and order. a couple of years later, as this divide remains, president trump emerges as a sort of sounding board, the loudest voice defending police officers. a lot of police officers, it may have been they had already been radicalized, they had a lot of these racist beliefs but sort of the top came off the record suddenly became acceptable and a

lot of officers mentioned they had colleagues who they had never heard expressing a sort of now trumpeting a lot of the rhetoric trump said and been a lot more comfortable with the racist, bigoted rhetoric. we saw that in reporting done by a lot of positions over the last decade. buzzfeed, huffpost, reveal have done stories exposing the scope of racist postings and memes a lot of officers have had on social media. this question of what to agree these officers were radicalized, to what degree they have been exposed him is a good one, just him extent, and matters less than the fact there departments come as the radicalization has been public in social media come on those public platforms come have been very little to stop them. amy: there are amazing stories. in new york, in the last week or so, he live pd's

antidiscrimination chief retiring after his was discovered he went by the name clouseau on white supremacist websites and posted things like barack obama is a wild a wild savage and talked about african-americans as wild beasts. it is an astounding ory. philadelphia transit of there's part of the insurrection, police from seattle, new york city. do you think these officers and two african-american officers around the country are talking about this for years now, think they should be fired? >> it is a question that officers, even black officers, are split on. most of those i spoke with made clear they do believe all of the colleagues have the right t believe what they believe politically, the right to even believe the election was invalid -- even though they know it is false. for many years, police departments have cited first

amendment rights as to reasons why that cannot terminate officers who have been caught saying racist things. stranded in 2017, an officer had a tattoo that resembled a nazi icon. while the apartment could change their policies and say no more nazi tattoos among cops, they cannot terminate that officer because they said it was free speech and they had not changed their policy the time they hired him. for a lot of cops, they say maybe you cannot terminate these officers now, but what you need to do is screen these officers under the process at the beginning before they even make it to the academy and make sure the officers with extremist beliefs don't make it into the department to begin with. the problem is, suggested that nypd officer in charge of screening oaks held some of these extremist beliefs themselves. in the philadelphia inquirer reported on a detective who was found to have been at the rally

and had posted about qanon, the false conspiracy theory, was part of the background checking unit. the problem is a lot of the officers hired to screen folks for extremist beliefs hold those beliefs themselves. whether officers can be terminated now for supporting the insurrection, this is the reckoning now that a lot of departments have to make. the attorney general so far has given the strongest support of terminating officers, even if they were not at the capitol, even if they did not break laws come just for supporting those beliefs. he sort of said it is impossible to protect and serve the constitution if you believe this false conspiracy theory about the government being a legitimate. the oakland police department's have taken a similar stance. most officers i spoke to do draw the line between officers being allowed to believe what they want to believe politically as long as they don't cross the line into criminality. juan: what about the issue of some of these officers joining or having ties to some of these

extremist groups like the militia groups, the three presenters and otherhite supremacist groups? do you think police apartments have done enough to be vigilant about their officers been involved with these groups? >> they have not done enough. there was a report by former fbi cutter terrorism expert, agent, mike german khan elier this year has said they have not done enough. there been years and years of evidence of police officers joining these right wing extremist groups, white supremacist groups and their department is not doing anything about it. the fbi has called attention as far back as 2006, another in 2015, a report intercept obtained that showed the fbi had found evidence that white supremacist groups were actively trying to infiltrate police department's. while we were able to identify police officers that have

extremist views who posted on social media, we don't have those who are more quiet. what we do know is there is a lot of evidence and there has been for a decade now that there are officers who are joining these groups and these groups are specifically recruiting officers to join these organizations. what the extent of that is come have any officers have joined, it is at this poin amy: we amy: amy: want to thank you, albert samaha, for joining us this morning. we will link to your piece "some black officers say their departments ignored their white colleagues' radicalization." in the aftermath of the siege on the capitol, many democrats including president-elect joe biden are calling for new domestic terror laws to crack down on white supremacist violence. this is president bynum speaking the day after the right wing mob

attacked the capitol building. mr. biden: day work domestic terrorists. amy: our next guest says that term should not exactly be used to describe those people. he saysmo that more domestic teorism laws, more domestic terrorism laws are predictably misguided response to the capitalist fact that will actually end up harming black and brown communities by expanding law enforcement's powers. manar waheed joins us now from -- manar waheed is senior legislative and advocacy counsel at the american civil liberties union. can you lay out your concerns? >> thank you so much for having me today. i would start by saying i am muslim and as a muslim, i completely understand where this response is coming from, where the desire to use the term "domestic terrorism" is coming from. i come from a community that has been treated as suspect for the

entirety of my life, surveilled, vilified. from me it comes from a deep desire to say, you got it wrong. you are wrong. it was not us. it was never us. the problem is that words have impact. using the term "domestic terrorism" invokes a counterterrorism response, a criminal response. in those systems that target black and brown people, that have always targeted black and brown people. when we use that term, within see leaders invoking solutions within the systems and we cannot find our solutions in systems that ultimately harm us, particularly black and brown people. juan: how would you have the biden administration or other federal authorities deal with the kind of legislation needed to curb white supremacists or neofascist groups today? >> there are over 50 federal

crimes related to domestic terrorism. there is a whole framework of hate crimes laws that were graded to address white supremacy violence. law enforcement in particular the fbi, has the power to investigate before a crime has even been committed and these powers are so broad that the fbi has abuse them in ways that target black lives matter, people engaged in immigration advocates. we can go back to the civil rights movement and the surveillance of martin luther king jr. yesterday we were honoring martin luther king and today we are empowering the system that hurt him and other civil rights leaders. instead i would implore these leaders to look within the systems that already exist, to look within the fbi and determine, why are they not using these resources to address white supremacy violence? where are the resources going?

rain in the fbi's powers to create a prohibition on profiling that doesn't have these wrought exceptions that swallowed the rule that we had under the obama administration, which was loopholes for national security and border security. sorein those it and to oversight of the fbi and figure out why these systems are not -- issues are not being addressed instead of creating more police power, more crime and a system that hurts black and brown people under the guise of protecting them. juan: we saw people being harassed on airplanes and airports and now we're hearing the lawmakers are reportedly considering placing those who participated in the sacking of capitol hill on a no-fly list. what is your response to that? >> is similar to the domestic terrorism peace. these are powers that then extend into things like the no-fly list, which the aclu and

civil rights organizations, black and brown organizations have been fighting since the inception because of the due process violation, because of the way they target yet again black and brown people, and by doubling down on those systems, whether it is the no-fly list, police powers, creating more crime, you're only going to hurt the communities we are trying to protect. doubling down on systems that harm black and brown communities is not the solution. amy: manar waheed, can you comment on twitter bending president trump, donald trump forever from twitter? and then also the crackdowns on facebook as well, by facebook as well? >> i think thatbanning people on twitter is a slippery slope. joe personally have a problem with getting donald trump on twitter? absolutely not. but the systems monitoring and

discriminating and being harsh on black and brown people, is that how they ultimately use -- that who is censored, that is what we see over and over again? that is what the systems have done. again, doubling down on that is probably going to end up hurting black and brown people yet again. amy: manar waheed, thank you for being with us, senior legislative and advocacy counsel at the aclu. that does it for our show. tomorrow we will be live streaming the not duration starting at -- the inauguration starting i believe at 11:00 p.m. eastern time, whenever it begins, at democracynow.org. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. e-mail your comments to outreach@democracynow.org or mail them to democracy now! p.o. box 693 new york, new york 10013. [captioning made possible by democracy now!]

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with no end in airport's hardship ♪ hello. welcome to nhk "newsline." i'm yamamoto miki in tokyo. we start in the united states where on wednesday joe biden is set to be sworn in as the country's 46th president. biden has touched down in the capital calling at a time for unity when the country remains