[captioning made possible by democracy now!] am from w york ts is decracy no >>heingle grtest teat to our national security. our counterintelligence program must prevent the rise of a black messiah. amy: as black history month begins, we look back at the assassination of black panther leaderred hamon. the series -- story is retold in

a new feature film, "judas and the black messiah," preparing at sundance film festival today. we will speak wh reor shaka king andeff haas and flint taylor, oave discovered new details. >> we have found new document that showed not only was the chicago fbi behind the murderous raid of fred hampton but that j edgar over and h trusted lieutenant were also aware of the goings-on in chicago and rewardedhe fbi informant and his agent for setting up the murderous raid. amy: we lookt the gwing mpaign toust faright conspicy torist republin ngressember rjorie tlor gree, who once dorsed t execion of saker nan pelosi. greene was racially picked by republican leadership to serve on the education committee. >> assigning her to the

education committee when she has mocked the killing of little children at sandy hook elementary school, when she has mocked the killing of teenagers in high school at marjorie stoneman douglas high school. what could they be thinking? amy: coming up. welcome to democracy now, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. i'm amy goodman. confirmed covid-19 cases in the u.s. have topped 26 million and 440,000 deaths. hospitalizations fell below 100,000 this weekend for the first time in nearly two months. on friday, the centers for disease control ordered masks be worn on almost all forms of public transportation, including

airplanes, ships, trains, subways, buses, taxis, and rideshares, starting from midnight today. this comes as experts warn new variants of coronavirus could soon outnumber the original in the u.s. the variant fist identified in south africa has now been reported in two states, maryland and south carolina. top epidemiologist michael osterholm warns a hurricane is coming, with major surges expected in the next six to 14 weeks, and urges rushing the first dose of the vaccine into as many arms as possible. the white house chief medical adviser, dr. anthony fauci, said the variants should be a wake-up call and also pushed the goal of vaccinating as many people as quickly as possible. >> we need to as quickly and efficiently as you possibly can it will always be the best way to prevent the further evolution . when you do that, you prevent

replication, and replication is essential for mutation. amy: dr. fauci also said over -- the u.s. is likely to start vaccinating children by late spring or early summer. in other vaccine news, johnson & johnson is seeking emergency use authorization of its covid vaccine after a large clinical trial showed it was 60 6% effective at preventing moderate to severe disease four weeks after vaccination. the vaccine's efficacy appeared to rise over time, with no cases of severe disease. the johnson & johnson vaccine only requires a single dose and does not require ultra cold storage, making an -- it easier to store than the vaccine by pfizer and moderna. johnson & johnson says it is ready to ship doses through june as more data emerges showing major racial disparities in who

is receiving vaccines. in new york city, 11% of shots so far went to black people, who represent 24% of the population. 15% went to latinx people, who make up 29% of the city's population, even in predominantly latinx neighborhoods like washington heights, where vaccination sites reported high numbers of white people from outside the community getting the shot. in los angeles, the number of latinx patients dying daily from covid-19 has shot up by over 1000% since november. latinx people are now succumbing to the disease at a rate over 1.5 times that of all los angeles residents. in other news from l.a., dodger stadium's covid-19 vaccination center, one of the largest vaccination sites in the country, was forced to shut down briefly saturday after anti-vaccination and far-right protesters blocked its entrance. president biden is meeting today with 10 republican senators, who are proposing a roughly $600

billion coronavirus relief compromise bill they say could pass with bipartisan support as an alternative to biden's $1.9 trillion stimulus. the plan, backed by senators susan collins, lisa murkowski, mitt romney, rob portman, and others includes $160 billion for vaccine development and delivery, covid-19 testing, treatment, and the production of personal protective equipment. it also includes an extension of enhanced unemployment benefits and direct payments starting at $100for those they say are most in need. senator bernie sanders, chair of the senate budget committee, said sunday he believes democrats can pass the larger $1.9 trillion bill through reconciliation even without any republican support. burma's military seized power in an early-morning coup d'etat monday, cutting internet access, detaining the defect a leader and other top officials. military leaders have declared a

state of emergency for one yea ending a power-sharing agreement with suuyi and her national league for democracy that followed elections in 2016. the coup unfolded hours before lawmakers were to take their seats in the opening of parliament following a november election in which the military made unsubstantiated claims of fraud. suu kyi said in a statement the military had put burma back under dictatorship and urged people to protest. suu kyi spent years fighting against the burmese military, winning the nobel peace prize in 1991 for her efforts, but in recent years has been condemned for presiding over a campaign of violence by burma's military against the minority rohingya muslim community, which saw over 1 million rohingya flee to neighboring bangladesh. across russia, riot police cracked down on mast protests in support of jailed opposition leader alexei navalny sunday, arresting over people with many

5100 reports of violence. secretary of state tony blinken condemned the use of harsh tactics against the protesters. in the siberian city of yakutsk, protesters braved temperatures of minus 43 degrees to protest. >> i came to a rally for the first time today. i'm tired of the despotism and lawlessness of authorities. no questions have been answered. i want clarity, openness. amy: in syria, a pair of car bomb blasts tour through northern aleppa. the explosions took pla in an area controlled by antigovernment rebels. killing a protester and injuring three others. united nations officials are calling on countries to repatriate 27,000 children trapped in a camp in

northeastern syria. many of the children's parents were members of the islamic state who fled to the al hol camp after the group lost its last territory in syria in 2019. in somalia, at least nine people were killed sunday in attack in the capital. the attackers crashed a car bomb into the hotel's front gate before gunmen invaded and opened fire on patrons inside. among the dead was a former general. in the united states, capitol police officer brian sicknick, who was fatally wounded by a violent mob incited by president trump, will that i -- will lie in the capitol rotunda. the fbi has uncovered more evidence the february -- january 6 attack was coordinated in advance. meanwhile, two members of the

far-right were charged in new york with conspiracy. the wall street journal is reporting far-right conspiracy theorists and media figure alex jones donated $50,000 to help fund the january 6 rally that preceded the riot. the heir to the publix grocery store gave $300,000. former president trump has appointed new defense lawyers after five members of his previous team left just one week ahead of his impeachment trial next week. trump reportedly wanted his attorneys to argue there was mass election fraud and that the election was rigged. trump faces one charge of incitement of insurrection for the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol. in other news about trump, a new york judge ordered a tax law firm to hand over documents related to their work with the trump organization to the state's attorney general, letitia james. her office is investigating whether trump's businesses made false claims about the value of their assets in order to receive

tax breaks and secure loans and investors. an immigration news, a federal appeals court in washington, d.c. is allowing the government to continue deporting unaccompanied children without a court hearing or asylum interview. the court on friday overturned a previous ruling that had blocked a policy which stripped asylum seekers of due process, citing public health concerns around the pandemic. some 13,000 unaccompanied children were deployed -- deported between march and november. all three judges who reinstated the policy were appointed by trump. in more immigration news, a survivor of the 2019 mass shooting at the el paso, texas walmart was deported to mexico last week. the woman identified only as rosa had been cooperating in the investigation to the shooting. local outlets report rosa was apprehended after a traffic stop due to a broken brake light.

in georgia, buzzfeed reports a 57-year-old man from mexico has died after contracting covid-19. he is at least the second person to die in i.c.e. custody since october. 21 people died in i.c.e. custody last fiscal year, which ended in december. in northern minnesota, congresswoman l had omar -- ilhan omar met with indigenous leaders and activists over the weekend who are fighting to stop construction on enbridge's line three pipeline. water and land protectors are calling on president biden to halt line 3 and all other pipelines after he ordered the keystone xl pipeline to shut down on his first day in office. on friday, water defenders climbed into the pipeline's trenches before they were arrested. two others locks themselves to barrels of concrete. this is indigenous activist and lawyer tara houska speaking from the site of friday's protest. >> at this moment, in a pandemic

that shut down the whole world, something like this, we actually have a choice and we are choosing the wrong path. people talked about this time we would be in, when we have to choose the path of greed and destruction where the path to brother and sisterhood and human life. amy: those are some of the adlines. this is the quarantine report. i'm amy goodman. >> welcome to all of our listeners and viewers across the country and around the world. amy: i hope conditions are better in new jersey than they are in new york. weather conditions, i am talking about. air de blasio just declared a state of emergency for new york city due to what they expect to be near blizzard conditions. we will let people know through

the day what is happening here. in washington, d.c., republicans are facing increasing pressure to strip newly elected georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene from her new post on the education committee. green is a far-right conspiracy theorist who supported the execution of house speaker nancy pelosi and has claimed school shootings at sandy hook, connecticut, and parkland, florida were staged, as was the september 11 attack on the pentagon. she has a history of making racist, islamophobia, and anti-semitic comments. at least 50 house democrats have backed a resolution to remove her from office. congress member greene was erected -- elected after president donald trump called her a republican star. greene confront in one of the apartment survivors, teenager david hogg, when he visited

capitol hill to lobbied lawmakers to enact gun controls. >> i carry a gun for protection for myself. you are abusing her lobby and the money behind it and the kids to try to take away my second moment rights. amy: greene has claimed the massacre that david hogg survived was a false flag operation. in 2019, she liked a comment on social media that said house speaker nancy pelosi should be taken out and that a "bullet to the head" would be quicker. greene has called for pelosi's execution. >> she is a traitor to our country, guilty of treason. it is a crime punishable by death. nancy pelosi is guilty of treason, and we want her out of our government. amy: cnn reports marjorie taylor

greene recently removed that video from her facebook page. in another resurfaced video, greene talks about the qanon conspiracy theory. >> is it going to be true that the child's pedoplia in t eles in waington, d. -- is thatha we arreally gng to see co out? the te of corption we are going see comout going to be satanic worshiphat possly all these pele are involved in? maybe all these ary thing th people lk autn what is condered copiracy ses and copiracyheoriereally may berue. buthat is at qas bn tellg everyo. amy:n 20, marjoritaylor eene also aimed a laser from outer space started the camp fire.

pacific has pleaded guilty to the deaths of people killed in the wildfire. house speaker nancy pelosi butte house republicans for putting -- rebuked house republicans are putting the conspiracy theorist on the education committee. >> appointing her to the education committee which he has mocked the killing of little children at sandy hook elementary school, when she has marked the killing of teenagers in high school at marjorie stoneman douglas high school, what could they be thinking? or is thinking too generous a word for what they might be doing? it is absolutely appalling. amy: on friday, newly elected democratic congress won't -- congress member cori bush said she is moving her office.

we are joined by two guests come out michael edison hayden -- two guests, michael edison hayden, and bee nguyen is with us. her district include atlanta. she joined other lawmakers signing a resolution calling on green to resign. state legislator nguyen, explain what you are calling for. marjorie taylor greene was popularly elected in your state of georgia. rep. nguyen: my democratic colleagues and i have signed a resolution to ask members of congress to ask marjorie greene to resign. the congresswoman has proven danger is not just to our state but to our country. she continues to spread conspiracy theories and continues to state her allegiance to the former

president. she has continued to incite violence on democratic members and her colleagues. >> you are from georgia, as she is. could you tell us about the district she represents and her constituents and what led them to elect her? rep. nguyen: she represents northwest georgia. she was able to win in november 2020 without any opposition from democrats. it is a heavily republican district, but the democratic nominee dropped out before the general election because of personal reasons. voters did not have a choice i terms of voting for somebody. she was pop the early elected in that specific district. her allegiance to the president has been something that she has used to continue her popularity of northwest georgia. the majority of georgians did

not vote for the former president. they voted for president biden, for jon ossof and raphael warnock. amy: can you talk about gerrymandering and how that affected her district? re nguyen: in the state of georgia, we suffer from gerrymandering. it was a heavily republican district. there is no opportunity in the future to potentially unseat her in 2022. the numbers there are challenging. even if democrats are around a candidate, it is an uphill battle. with gerrymandering, what causes is extremism in the republican party. anybody running against her may feel they have to run to the right of her. that is what the republicans struggle within the ate of geora, how far-right they go during a primary election. once they go that far right, how do you pull yourself back from that?

for some of you like her it is hard to see that somebody would go to the right of her. amy: democratic state legislator bee nguyen, thank you for being with us. we want to turn to cori bush, who tweeted "a maskless marjorie , taylor greene & her staff berated me in a hallway. she targeted me & others on social media. i'm moving my office away from hers for my team's safety. i've called for the expulsion of members who incited the insurrection from day 1. bring h.res 25 to a vote." we want to bring in michael edison hayden into this conversation. you are a senior investigative reporter and spokesperson for the sovereign -- southern poverty law center. can you talk about what marjorie taylor greene represents, starting on the issue of qanon?

talk about her calling for the execution, a bullet to the head, of house speaker nancy pelosi and put it in the context of what we saw january 6, the insurrection at the capitol. michael: the easiest way for the audience to understand how we got here with somebody like marjorie taylor greene us to understand she started as a social media performer who filled the vacuum left behind by the intellectual conservative media. greene started to get likes and shares and so forth for promoting these unhinged conspiracy theories, which are inherently dangerous. one thing people misunderstand when they talk about q and on like that is the media gets on this topic of discussion, like how crazy it is and these nut

jobs or whatever. this is hate. we are talking about. archery taylor green has embraced explicitly -- marjorie taylor greene as embraced a solicit leap anti-semitic -- explicitly anti-semitic conspiracy theories. she aligns herself with anti-lgbtq groups. some of these ideas are crazy sounding to people. i think it is very helpful to start reframing it in your mind is something that is just part of this drift toward anti-democratic, far-right, authoritarian tendencies in the republican party that is something we need to take seriously and something that is very concerning. juan: you have mentioned the impact of algorithm driven as

helping build a following for marjorie taylor greene. michael: basically, these social media companies have -- almost like the tobacco industry created these algorithms meant to make you addicted to their websites. these things, if you look at twitter and stuff like that, it serves as a radicalization engine f extremists. look around you. i do not remember things being like this 10 years ago or 15 years ago. some of it has to do with the lies are the republican party for years about things we do not even cover, climate change and stuff like that. a lot of it has to do with this radicalization engine on people's phones. marjorie taylor greene is receiving likes and up votes and so forth for giving voice to these grievances thateople in

the republican party have or their base of support has. you look at where they get their news from. one america news is tied to the white supremacist movement. he has collaborated with neo-nazis. it has to do with these figures taking advantagef the infrastructure of social media to get people addicted and continue to feed this radicalization engine on people's phones. amy: if you can talk about the republican leadership facilitation of marjorie taylor greene, she believes what she believes, but not all congress members are put on committees. she has been elevated even as liz cheney is being attacked for

supporting the impeachment of president trump. what does this mean and what do you think the republican leadership needs to do that -- kevin mccarthy is meeting with greene this week after he went to mar-a-lago to spend time with donald trump. michael: if you look at the republican party right now, they have this inability to disavow people. southern poverty law center published a large investigation about stephen miller's private emails. used to be in the past that these types of investigations, republicans did not want anything to do with it because it was too toxic. as we got closer to the 2020 election, he saw this unwillingness to disavow. marjorie taylor greene is going to be the most extreme test of this thought. the issue is that she is of the

base. the base is now in power, and she is a post trump extremist congresswoman in the sense that, if you remember steve kingrom iowa, who had these white nationalist ideas and was associated with a she missed groups, he kept trying to cage his beliefs and ideas that would sod acceptae to what he perceived to be mainstream conservatives. green is outspoken about the things she hates. i am talking about executing politicians and so forth. this is a new world, and the fact that they are unwilling to disavow, it is like the barriers that exist between violence, far-right extremists and your

mainstream -- your image of that sort of person. barriers eroded over the course of the trump era, and they really snapped on january 5. you saw these people who look like run mothers or whatever standing with people wearing camp auschwitz sweatshirts. this is dark stuff, and i am not particularly optimistic that mccarthy or anybody else is going to take a strong stance and disavow because this is what the republican party has become. amy: they stripped king of his appointments and ultimately he would lose when he did not have the clout to the people in iowa needed. do you see anything like that happening with congress member green? -- greene? michael: it is theoretically possible. the fact that trump incited this insurrection -- i think that is

pretty clear. that is my perception. and they are still willing to go to bed with trump i think says something about their fear of the base. the base is actually in control of the republicaparty. amy: we are going to leave it there. thank you for being with us. when we come back black history month has begun. we look back at the assassination of black panther leader fred hampton in chicago 51 years ago. new documents suggest j edgar hoover was involved with his murder. and we will speak to the director of a film premiering at sundance called "judas and the black messiah." stay with us. ♪ ♪ [music break]

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democracynow.org, the quarantine report. we look back at the assassination of fred hampton and how new details reveal the fbi's role in the murder of the revolutionary. fred hampton was killed december 4, 1969, when chicago police raided hispartment and shot and killed him in his own bed. black panther leader mark clark was also killed by police in that raid. authorities initially claim to the panthers had opened fire on the police, who were there to serve a search warrant for weapons. evidence leader emerged that told a different story. the fbi and chicago police had conspired to assassinate fred hampton. now several hundred pages of fbi memos and reports obtained by historian and writer document that the director of the fbi's

domestic intelligence division played a key role in planning the raid and cover-up that followed. for more on what these documents say, we are joined by flint taylor and jeff haas founding , members of the people's law office in chicago. they were lead lawyers in the landmark fred hampton and mark clark civil rights case. their new piece for truthout is headlined "new documents suggest j. edgar hoover was involved in fred hampton's murder ." jeff haas, talk about what these new documents show and what you see as the smoking gun of j. edgar hoover's direct involvement. jeff: first, it is 51 years after the incident and 40 some years after the trial. we had never gotten these documents before. they showed hoover and sullivan and more were following roy mitchell closely with regard to

o'neal andomplemt to h and rewarding him from the moment he gave the information and floor plan to special agent mitchell. they were congratulated mitchell on wt a wonderful job he did with his informant. mitchell got the floor plan, gave it to the police. the floor plan even shows the bed where hampton and johnson would be sleeping. we never knew mitchell got a bonus. we never knew that hoover and sullivan were starting to watch this in november, 10 days before it happened. they were monitoring exactly what went on so it was approved at the highest level. we had sought to go up to sullivan and moore but the judge would not let us. we did not have these documents.

this also shows that, after the raid, the head of the fbi and congratulated o'neal, thanked him for his information, which led to the success of the raid. what is also interesting is, 51 years later, these documents still have reductions. there is a specifi redaction because an fbi agent has been called in front of a grand jury and was told, you could asked any questions about the fbi, ave the grand jury and report your higher-ups. a ar after the raid, the fbi role and cointelpro had never been disclosed. it took us 13 years to uncover that it was cointelpro, a program whose objective was to disrupt, destroy, and neutralize the panthers and prevent the rise of a black messiah like fred hampton, who could unify.

it was an fbi program that led to the passing of the floor plan and the 90 shots, fred hampton executed in his bed. juan: the documents also seem to indicate there was a plan to cover up fbi involvement in the raid. can you talk about that aspect of what you have uncovered? jeff: yes. this was a special, state grand jury because the immunity was so outred and there was a lot of pressure. they allowed the fbi to talk about who fired the guns but did not allow anybody to talk about the floor plan where the role of the informant in setting up the rate and getting a bonus for it. that was kept quiet. if there had not been a raid at

the fbi office, we might never have learned about cointelpro. juan: in terms of why it has taken so long and there are still reductions on these documents, the assassination of president kennedy, there have been documents and -- documents released from that. here we have one revolutionary in chicago and it has taken so long to get information about what actually happened. jeff: yes, i think the cover-up continues. many of these pages contain redactions, including information from o'neal. there are things the fbi still has not released, we think showing the involvement of higher-ups. we have speciaagent roy mitchell referring to the success of the raid and the raid was critical to the role of the fbi. some of these documents are new. for the next year, royitchell

got congratulated for how well he handled o'neill and how important the information had gotten. they called it success while -- success internally. amy: i want to bring flint taylor into this conversation, cofounder of the people's la office in chicago. you and jeff were arrested for protesting what you called to the outrageous rulings of the judge and blatant misconduct of the defense. can you explain what this trial was? flint: this was 18 months on trial, jeff and i and others in our office, fighting to get theseocuments out to establish the role of the fbi. we had a judge whose similar to the judge in the conspiracy trial which many people may member. he was set against us. he was originally from alabama. he was a racist, and he did not

believe and would not let us get at the evidence that the fbi was involved in this case. we were veloping this evidence along with the church committee. we were exposing this evidence in court and outside of court and the judge was getting more and morepset with us. when we protested the unfair rulings that he was making, he was keeping us from putting john mitchell and the others from washington in the case. he was keeping us from getting the documents that showed the nus to o'neill -- o'neal, the informant. all of this we were fighting for. when we protested, both of us at varioutimes were held in contempt and sent to the federal lockup here in chicago. we kept fighting it. the judge threw the case out after 18 months of trial.

he would not let the jury decide the case. we fought to appeal and won a remarkable decision in the court of appeals, defended it in the u.s. supreme court, and 13 years of litigation and fighting to get the evidence out, we were ultimately able to obtain one of the largest, if not e largest, police violence settlement for the families of the surviving panthers in the history at that time of the federal courts. juan: for the younger members of our audience who do not perhaps understand t significae of the black panther party and j edgar hoover labeling them the greatest domestic threat to the u.s. government, hoover was aware by then, though the public und out later, that secret

polling's showed more than 25% of all african-americans at the time supported the black panther party. can you talk about the party's significance? >> the party was ver significant. his leadership was as well. fred hampton was not only an up-and-coming leader but a charismatic and dynamic leader. the panthers had a 10 point program that covered the waterfront wh all sort of revolutionary and socialist is -- socialist programs, a free breakfast program, for example. a newspaper ca out eve week and talked about the atrocities of the police and the government. it was very much an anti-imperialist organization, fought against the war in vietnam, said people should not go to vietnam, opposed mass incarceration before there was that term.

also, was very strong in setting up and fighting for coalitions between black, hispanic. like other organizations, revolutionary and radical organizations. this is another reason why hoover feared the panthers so much. they were bringing together all sorts of revolutionary groups or groups against the war in vietnam. this was threatening the government at that time and they targeted under the cointelpro program, which was focused to destroy the lack can third -- black panther party, on fred hampton because he was so successful in chicago. amy: we want to thank you, flint taylor and jeff haas. their new piece is headlined

"new documents suggest j. edgar hoover was involved in fred hampton's murder." next up, we continue our look at the assassination of black pantr leader fred hampton in chicago 51 years ago as told in a remarkable new feature film premiering at sundance film festival today. it is called "judas and the black messiah." we will speak to us director, shaka king. stay with us. ♪ ♪ [micreak]

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his murder was a shock throughout the country, and there were many protests, not just in chicago but across the country. amy: i wanted to go to two clips. what has happened this weekend with this film premiering at the sundance film festival on the first day of black history month, i wanted to turn to daniel kaluuya, who played chairman fred hampton, talking about the scene in which he delivers the speech to one of his largest, most diverse audiences just after coming out of prison. >> being in the moment and sang his words and eing everyone's faces, it felt lucky was in the room, if i am being honest. it felt like something is going through you and you are a vessel. it was jus -- if i'm being

honest, i do not really remember the takes. i watched the trailer. i usually remember takes. i do not remember that. a bit of me left. it was like he was in the room. it was him. it was his energy, his purpose, his message, his ideas that was coming through all of us in that room. amy: thais daniel kaluuya of "get out" fame. i was watching you have a conversation and you talked about this moment that you filmed fred hampton. giving this speech. and what that was like. can you bring us -- he had just

gotten off a plane? shaka: he had been doing press, so he had been away from the shoot for a week. he woke up late, the only time he woke up late. he walked into the church. i caot express how that day i real -- we h a lot o momes onset whe we felt confirmation tt we werdoing the ght thing, but ne quite like tt day bause ialmost felt likeveryoneas traed a time rp. everne was tating him like fred thaday. e firs te, he ce up tho steps anjust theay thathe owd greed himit reay did feel like frehampton just ce out prin and s welcom by theommunity tt loves h.

and at energthey gavto h heed off o it bece -- iteased tbecome a performance, specifically that scene. it became a very real thing. amy: it is an outstanding moment. i also want to go to lakeith stanfield, speaking in a q&a th sag-aftra. >> i always try to keep that in mind. there is some love, even though he may have done things we do not agree with. they had a bond of love. it was not always easy. i would be cing. especially when we got down to the scenes where i had to make a decision to poison fred or whatever. i cannot even keep it together for the scene bause everything felt so real.

i had to find the truth in it. amy: what do you want people to take away from this film and the significance of getting into this mass audience? shaka: a number of things. one of the reasons to make o'neill a central character is to look at the dangers of being a political and not only how it can lead to manipulation and destabilizing a movement but when -- limon neil -- william o'neal's life came to a bitter end. they did not just -- because of the decisions he made. they did not just hurt him. i think there is also obviously a desire to make it clear that the panthers were largely

motivated by love, love of each other, love of their community, and to correct the historical record. these were not terrorists, individuals terestedn rgeting ite peoe. in regard to wliam o'nea's ndler, tre is a reason we y make hicomplex well. thinin a lotf waysis chacter highlhts the ngers of being white centrist, especially when you are a white person who works for the white power structure. you do not find anyone who does that more so than in fbi agent. amy: we have five secos. shaka: there are a married a

things to take from this film. amy: thank you so much for being with us and congratulations on this epic work. the film is "judas and the black messiah."

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