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♪ >> the vaccination program going from strength to strength, england is to ease lockdown from april 12. boris johnson urging caution while expressing his desire to get back to the pub for a pint. the interior minister launches an inquiry. all exposed by a reporter
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undercover. benjamin netanyahu's trial continues. a prominent new side to flatter his family and smear his opponents. thank you for joining us. covid as the country enters a third lockdown. 197 more have lost their lives. 5433 are in intensive care. over 9.3 people got their first jab. the french interior minister has launched an investigation into a covid busted diners club. >> a surprise inspection in this cafe. despite being closed to the public, tables have been set in
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the back. the owner is not expecting customers. for police, it has the makings of an illegal restaurant. >> [speaking french] >> it was one of hundreds of similar police operations since december. french authorities are attempting to cut down on illegal gatherings. >> [speaking french] >> the debate surrounding illegal gatherings took on center stage and france. the owner is suspected of having organized high skilled dinners and claimed to have dined along government ministers, a claim
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officis denied and which was later retracted. the french interior minister launched an investigation sunday. >> boris johnson is urging england not to be complacent as a relaxation of the covid restriction is announced. pubs and restaurants can reopen as planned next monday. people can get a haircut and you can go to a gym. a potential covid status certificate is being studied. he added he is looking forward to a pint next week. >> it is less than a week until the moment many english people have been thirsting after. a moment the prime minister himself is fondly looking forward to.
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>> on monday, i will be going to the pub myself, and cautiously, but irreversibly raising a pint of beer to my lips. >> effects have fallen sharply and six in 10 adults have had their first dose. it is little surprise boris johnson confirmed england is on track for the reopening of shops, services, and hospitality. he says it is too soon to say whether they follow summer holidays abroad. >> johnson said his government is looking into it, but stressed they would not be needed for things like pubs, hairdressers and shops.
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>> there are moves on a similar basis around europe. lifting lockdown in england, boris johnson is dying to get to the pub for a pie. what are your thoughts about england? >> it is limited as the borders are. there are only 500 people in an intensive care unit.
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you will have more than 5000 people in the intensive care units. england can expect to ease the lockdown measures, but if it starts to mix too much altogether, as long as they keep their borders locks, they are confident not to have too much virus entering their territories. like europe, you have so many different structure and behavior regarding the behavior of the virus spread, that this is spread using any breach among the population.
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>> can we talk about mainland europe, portugal, greece, trying to get tourism up and running again. that is a risk, isn't it? >> it is. the main issue is you need to have a healthy economy if you want to have a healt health system. if you want to take care of your citizens, you need to have an economy running. those different countries in europe have different economy basis and they are facing different threats. every government is trying to cope with the paradox or the economic way of preserving the economy and the -- of the
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citizen. we have a common doctrine to fight that it hit me. we are lacking a common strategy. we use our own parameters to decide whether we should increase the lockdown or ease the lockdown. that is what is lacking right now. >> it is a test of the european plan. the banking crisis, there was room for a solution. the migrant crisis to an extent.
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as a europe failed on the covid thing? >> the virus is behaving at a european level and every country is trying to solve the problem alone. we are not accustomed to -- against slow kinetic disasters. the spikes are almost three months apart. any decision you take takes a trimester to be visible, even if
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you do mistakes or protections decisions. whatever happens, we analyze the epidemic from day-to-day variables, although the virus has more slow kinetics, which are trimesters. we failed to understand the sw kinetics rules and that ithe main issue we are facing. the last point is were focusing on masks, but we are forgetting the handwashing and surface cleaning, which is key in controlling this epidemic. >> thank you.
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the services get cleaned, the hands get washed, keyboards get claimed. we get every surface as clean as we can. it is important. i am waiting as many other people are, too. benjamin netanyahu's trial continued with a witness painting the picture of an image-obsessed leader, prompting a news site to flatter his family and to his opponents. political talks are hosted by the president. >> witnesses started testifying. the prime minister did not stay in court to follow the hearing. judges allowed him to leave after the prosecutor's opening
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statement. the first affair examined is case 4000, in which he faces the most serious charges, corruption. it alleges he struck an arrangement with a shareholder of the biggest telecommunication company. the leader allegedly granted favors in return for more favorable coverage, the first witness was a website's ceo. in case 1000, he is accused of accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of champagne and other luxury goods in exchange for promises. case 2000 -- netanyahu has denied any wrongdoing.
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after court, he is meeting with the president, hoping to get a mandate to form the next government. trials and appeals are likely to take years. the leader is not required to step down. >> we are watching for all developments in that case. great to see you. good day on wall street? >> a boost from the jobs report. it is the first day u.s. markets have been open. the index is in positive territory. the dow jones is up, hitting a record high. the nasdaq posting gains. european markets closed for
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easter. the u.s. tracker t -- the u.s. treasury secretary favors a global minimum corporate tax. take a listen. >> we are working with g20 nations to agree to a global minimum corporate tax re that can stop the race to the bottom. together, we can use the global minimum tax to make sure the global economy thrives based on a more level playing field and the taxation of multinational corporations. it will spur innovation and prosperity. >> the beginning of spring meetings. first slated to run until sunday. they are expected to raise their projections of global growth.
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many other countries risk being left behind. we are seeing the uneven recovery mark we have been seeing for the last few months. highly anticipated world economic outlook report is coming tomorrow. we will see how that goes. you have been hearing about this uneven recovery. >> great to see you. stay with us. more news to come. >> our guest today is a historian and chairman of the french archives related to rwanda and the genocide of --.
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>> you presented macron with a report of 1000 pages of important report. france has -- is reting the complicity of genocide. it is an important step to what is a mutual understanding of the role of france. >> he decided to send french military forces into the region to support the regime.
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cefrom that point onward, france put in place a policy to take over control of the area, rwanda was not a french colony. it had an advanced position in an area that was under u.s./u.k. influence. it was a well-thought-out plan. he measured the full extent of france's influence in africa and wanted to expand influence in africa. that was the case here.
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he -- and his defense attache. >> he reconstituted the chain of command. we heard about orders. there were a lot of oral orders. there was a mission who recalls their work in the attic of the palace, a noncommissioned officer sending -- to rwanda. the private staff decided on their own in parallel about a special politics with --. >> there are two clear phases, 1990 to 1993.
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the palace is all-powerful in anything related to rwanda. from 1993 to 1994, when the genocide comes -- genocide starts, -- comes in and it goes to a voluntary dial approach. hats off should be taken. they want to try to have france intervene to stop the massacres. there are two clear stages. you have the 1990, 1993 stage. the private staff is powerful, they get direct orders. he summons into his office the chief of staff and says you know my policy, what you have to do. these orders are unclear. we have been able to piece them together. the minister of defense insisted, when he spoke with him later, these orders need to be written.
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there is concern for how the french presidency is operating. in relation to the private staff, -- would go from the presidential palace, which is where the first special forces was located. we have jean, who has testified to this. we have to reestablish the chain of command. we have flowcharts with the presidential palace and rwanda. this is where we have the evidence of responsibility. both wanted to bring an ethnic bench to the policy. at the time, you had the rpf and the opposition based in uganda. the head of private staff and diplomats said they were
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ugandan, which is the opposite of what it is. there was a lot of weight and support given to a presidential raising that said they were from the majority. you have france who gives considerable ethnic color to the politics in the region and in rwanda. what they need to understand is when you put such an ethnic color on matters, you end up with genocide. >> why are we not accomplices of the genocide? why such a clear-cut conclusion? the intention is not required to prove the complicit in genocide. >> we did not want to stand instead of the legal system.
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in a report with 1000 pages, tens of thousands of archives consulted, it would have been odd for us to note about responsibility. what we do say is in our archives, there is not a single archive that we looked at that showed france wanted to be part of a criminal enterprise. it means that france did not want to genocide. when we talk about responsibility, that shows france turned a blind eye and that is what we needed to put into question. we need to think about that part of the past. >> -- started june 20 second, france and the french military are intervening under the united nation and you say it was an
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attempt to lodge within this, a military operation. you say turkey's operation is not in protection of the genocide perpetrator. why? soldiers from this operation testified the orders they received were puzzling, challenging. massacres could have been avoided while turkey was on the ground. >> soldiers were doing a fantastic job. orders are ambiguous. they were not told you were in-depth in a area where people controlled the administration and survivors trying to save their lives and escape. >> we see that in the archives, there is a decision in the
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archives that we saw. the french president at the time highlights the fact he and the prime minister decided there would be no arrests. >> france is required by the convention against genocide. >> it is complicated. the problem is that while france signed it in 1950, it had not been integrated into the politicians at the time. >> there is a political will. we know there is a genocide and the french troops are on the ground. they have the genocide perpetrators. it is questioning. >> they realize there were killers and victims. three days we can understand. the troops and the soldiers, they were told they were going to be up against the rpf.
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they were trying to stop the genocide. it is complicated for soldiers to try to understand what had to be done. this is a perfect example of that. >> the massacre -- >> it is awful, but when wei saw there was willingness from the generals to intervene, helicopters were sent in to save those people who could be saved. it was challenging for the palace to break away from the policy at the time, which was where france aligned with a heavy amount of policy, genocide perpetrators and those tied to the presidential powers at the time. it is important to understand who those perpetrators were.
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it is challenging and explains why they wanted to avoid raising hell and uphold the agreements they advised those perpetrators to leave. you had people in diplomatic forces, who is the ambassador with turquoise forces. people were are trying to save their hide. you have a general who published an article, who held control of his command and people with courage. unfortunately, people were being told to put an end to the massacres. you got the feeling there were massacres all over the place. faced with genocide, the community had to act. you cannot say the rpf are putting an end to it.
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the argument does not hold up. >> rwanda commended this report. there are supposed to be a report to be published of this while a visit of president macron is being discussed. do you think it is important for both sides to find a shared way through this work of remembrance? >> it is the right way forward. we talk about rwanda in france and it is stifling. violence, lies, intimidation. i am convinced we are on the same page. there is one known truth and we are researchers and we seek truth. >> thank you for being with us. thank you for watching this interview. stay tuned for more news.
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