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[captioning performed by the national captioning institute, -- dozens of injured. this comes on the same day of a deadly crash in the occupied west bank. our correspondent is standing by with the latest. a landslide victory for boris johnson. a huge blow to the labour party. this could set the stage for another referendum on independence. catherine nicholson is standing by in edinburgh with the latest
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results. arrayed on a slub does some in -- slub -- slum in rio de janeiro left 25 people dead. i am monte francis with the latest world news from paris. in jerusalem clashes between palestinian worshipers and israeli police left doesn't injured friday -- dozens injured friday. israeli forces shot and killed two palestinians. israelis and palestinians are said to be bracing for more violence in the coming days. joining us now is our correspondent in jerusalem. what can you tell us about the latest violence? >>
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i can tell you at happened at the mosque compound today. today is the last friday of ramadan. as worshipers were dispersing, some stayed behind to have a meal there. protests broke out with rockthrowing and an israeli response of tear gas and rubber bullets. theoretically -- the israeli police had just been congratulating themselves that tension in east jerusalem had not spilled over. tonight we saw that it did. the press -- the palestinian crews have treated people. both sides blamed the other. the premise to dance -- palestinians blamed the israelis. the israeli troops blamed palestinian worshipers.
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it was serious violence. once they cleared the compound, clashes re-erupted just outside the damascus gate at the walls of the old city. that still is not completely over. it is a very tense night. it is a difficult and to this friday of ramadan. monte: what is prompting this latest episode of violence? irris: if you have been watchin this for the past 10 days, it is like a flame in search of a match. there are so many factors. there is an ongoing dispute over evictions of palestinians in east jerusalem. there is the fact that the palestinian elections have been canceled. .
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there is the fact that it is ramadan. there is an underlying discontent you just feel during this holy month. i just read someone saying these are the worst clashes we have seen for three or four years. it is always under the surface but it is coming up like a geyser. monte: the biggest swing of votes to the british governing party since world war ii. a landslide victory for the pride -- the party of prime minister boris johnson in the government criticized initial handling of the coronavirus pandemic and in the wake of brexit. that is a huge blow to the labour party. we want to start in scotland where elections there will set the stage for a referendum on independence after a bid to
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break away from the u.k. was defeated in 2014. we will know the official results saturday. joining us from edinburgh is our european affairs editor catherine nicholson. where do we stand out? catherine: as we speak, 47 of the 129 seats overall have been declared at this point. we are only expecting one more seat to be declared this friday. the whole process has been massively slow down because of covid restrictions. of those 47 seats we have so far, nicola stueon's scottish national party has one 38 of then won 38 of them. --won 38 of them. they have taken two seats from
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boris johnson's conservative party and one from the centerleft labor. turnout has been high as well. 63%. experts say this will favor the scottish national party. nicola sturgeon herself has said she is extremely happy and extremely confident, but at the same time, she is taking nothing for granted. the rest of the results will be announced on saturday. they include seeds that are going to be allocated by a form of proportional representation. there is a complex calculation carried out to decide how those are divvied up among the parties. it is where voters tend to cast tactical votes. a stronger showing for the scottish national party at this point. but, we will not really make any predtions about the final outcome at this stage. monte: the big question is
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whether this is setting the stage on another referendum on independence from the u.k.. what do these results tell us so far about the prospects? catherine: the parties have been campaigning on a multitude of issues, not just independence. independence has not even been a dominant theme of the campaign. there has been much talk about the pandemic, the health system, the economic recovery. but the scottish national party is a pro-independence party. it is in its dna to seek independence from the rest of the united kingdom. if it manages to win an overall majority, 65 seats or more our name -- in the scottish parliament about that will give a strong mandate for nicola sturgeon to ask boris johnson to permit a independence
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referendum. appetite for independence itself here in scotland is not necessarily particularly high at this point. we thought that after the brexit vote in 2015 here in scotland 62% of people voted to remain in the eu. there was a big class and division between scotland and other parts of the u.k.. sturgeon is very aware of that. she is also aware people are feeling battered by the covid pandemic. she is saying her priority in any case is going to be getting out of the pandemic, getting out of lockdown. she is not looking at asking for an independence referendum anytime soon. monte: two brazil. a raid on islam -- a slum in rio
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de janeiro has left 25 people dead. local say innocents were slaughtered. the united nations human rights office strongly criticized the raid. >>carrying banners calling for justice, demonstrators protested outse the rio police headquarters. anger is growing after a drug raid left 25 people dead including a police officer, making it one o the deadliest operations in the city's history. >>[speaking non-english language]. >>[speaking non-english language].
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>>the raid took place in one of rios most populous slums on the one of the headquarters of one of the country's largest criminal gangs, the red command. officers entered homes without warrants and and is currently fired weapons. the police have denied any wrongdng and dended the raid , saying it was part of a year-long investigation to prevent criminal gangs from recruiting children. but, the department has been widely criticized for using disproportionate force. the un's human rights office called for an independent investigation into the events of the raid. monte: u.s. vice president, law -- kamala harris how to video conference with the president of mexico ahead of her visit to
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mexico and guatemala next month. biden appointed harris as his point person on stemming the migrant crisis along the mexico border. harris has said there is an alarming influx of migrants but the problem cannot be solved without cleaning up corruption in central america. for more, we are joined by a associate professor of sociology and the founding director of the immigration lab at american university. , harris has been tasked with getting to the roots of the immigration crisis. how could you go about tackling this problem? ernesto: -- it is a very complex issue. it is great that vice president harris is having a conversation with the president of mexico and traveling soon to guatemala and other countes in e region. nevertheless, handling
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corruption with authorities of these governments will be difficult. harris and the biden administration have t make sure there is a stronger economy, employment, and strong structures to help our cultural sector and oer pple do not have to emigrate. we need society working together to address root causes. monte: it is one thing to identify root causes, but another thing to actually get something done, isn't it? ernest o: absolutely. we have to be clear that addressing these is crucial, but will take a long time. it will probably take a decade until we see results to really
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restrain immigration. let's do -- vice president harris was talking today about more investment in central america and mexico. that is important. this should not become a quid pro quo negotiation like we had between trump were the u.s. was threatening mexico to close the border to certain people and services if mexico did not become the police for the uted states and stopped to central americans passing through mexico. it is important to note that mexico reported over half a million central americans in the last two years. we have to be carefu we have to be careful. talks between mexican, central american, and u.s. governments do not become a new way to push the u.s. border further south
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d create a fortress north america, but to actually address issues of poverty, climate change, and underdevelopment in these regions. monte: immigration reform would require republican support to get past. how optimistic are you that this could actually happen? ernesto: most american citizens are in favor of giving papers to the dreamers with temporary protected status, people who are emergency workers in the pandemic. even republican voters are pro-immigrant. so our businesses. the economy is going to keep growing coming out of the covid crisis. there will be on demand for labor in the u.s. economy at the time that we have seen of births going down in the u.s. and population growth the lowest since the 1930's.
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central american labor will be cured joel -- crucial for a full recovery. thatj is something republicans have to keep in mind. we have to consider the economic impact. we are talking about billions of dollars that these workers are producing. so, even despite the lack of support from the republican reesentatis, by then -- biden has to show the political will to get it done. monte: thank you for being with us. stay tuned for more world news here on france 24. ♪
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>>our greatest asset is our people. how often have we heard that corporate cliche? most of us know the reality is frequently different from slogans. one company where that is definitely true is netflix. it is the main reason why the company grew from a humble dvd rental service 20 years ago to one of the worlds most successful entertainment corporations. my guest today, aaron meyer -- erin meyer spent many hours with netflix employees and its founder. the result is a book she co-authored with the firm ceo reed hastings. she is a professor of organizational behavior at a leading business go outside paris. welcome to the program. erin: it is nice to be here.
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>>it is great to have an inside track on netflix. in a nutshell, how does netflix innovate? >>it is quite simple. even though it is the opposite of what most companies are doing. they tried to hire only the best people. then, they give them huge amounts of freedom by giving them no rules, no procedures, no processes. the idea is that freedom breeds incredible innovation. so, at most companies, i have seen they are treating their employees like children. if you want to buy a computer or go on vacation or start a new initiative, you have to ask permission, right? at netflix with all of this freedom they treat their employees like adults. that is what really gets speed and innovation going. >>before you can release controls like not having to do expensive --xpenses forms or
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apply for vocation, you first have to get the very best people. the key is actually talent density, isn't it? >>that is the word they use at netflix, talent density. talent density basically means instead of hiring 100 medium employees and paying them a medium amount, you try to hire may be only 10 and pays them top of market, up to 10 times what you would pay your medium employees. once you that -- get that talent density, then you see that performance is contagious. that high-performance cycles up into incredible speed. >>there is a slightly scary side to this as well. i want to show a graphic from something called the netflix culture deck, which was described by facebook as perhaps the most important document to
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come out of silicon valley. this is one of their key phrases. "unlike many companies, we practice adequate performance gets a generous severance tract -- package." is this scary? everyone thinks when will i be fired if i am less than absolutely brilliant all of the time every day, every night, every weekend? >>it takes a certain kind of person to work there. . you have to be ready to work for a high-performing team like a sports team. they say we are a team not a family. there is no job security. their managers are asked to do something they are called the key protest. i need to think to myself on an ongoing basis, if you came to me and told me that you were leaving the company, would i fight to keep you? if i would, i know you are a keeper. if you are not, i need to find out their. -- find other plans.
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>>this is something managers are trained to ask themselves all the time. it is part of the mindset. >>yeah. it is easy to know if your employees are not the best people for that spot but to keep them on because you love your employees and it was hard to hire them. it is hard to let them go. the key protest is a mechanism for encouraging managers to do hard work. >>one of the most startling things in the book is when you write about the feedback that employees give to each other and also to their bosses in public. >>yes. [laughter] the first step to freedom is talent density. the second step is what they call candor. i have to tell you i was a little surprised when i came across this. i am from minnesota and we do not like candor very much. the idea is if you want high-performing work, you need
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to give one another a lot of thoughtful, caring, and honest feedback on an ongoin basis, not just to your employees, but to your colleagues and also your boss. so, we should give that feedback whenever we think would be best, even in the middle of a presentation would be ok, if i thought that would be the moment that would help you. if i am the boss, then i should solicit this feedback. when i get honest feedback about my own performance, i should talk about it widely so that other people see i can take it and i am working on it. >>there is an image you use which is the boss is a root of a tree supporting managers and then the decisions get taken at the outer branches of the tree. >>this is where we really see the success of the organization. once you have got all of this talent density and then this ecosystem of feedback and performance cycling up, now you
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can really get rid of all of the management controls. that is not just like getting rid of things like vocation. at netflix they say the vocation -- the vacation policy is "take some." it also has to do with our fundamental ways of making decisions. at most companies, it is like a pyramid with the ceo at the top, the employees at a lower level. low level employees can make small and unimportant decisions. >>it is obviously subjective what makes a top employee. they have to have social intelligence. >>oh yeah. they say at netflix two things. one is "lead with context not control." even though we do not have a vocation policy, i still have to set context for my team frequently about what is appropriate for taking vacation, when we can take it and how we can take it. >>you are an expert on culture
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mapping, as you call it. that is essentially seeing how certain values in different cultures compare or do not compare, if that is a fair summary. how does netflix actually build a culture that works in japan, singapore, the netherlands? give us an example. >>when i started working with netflix they mapped out their corporate culture on their culture map and compared it to various companies they were moving into. that candor was a little startling when they moved into japan and singapore. but, they did not change the culture, they just worked locally to get them working in different ways. the was a story about a woman from silicon valley giving feedback to one of her japanese employees trying to get the japanese employee to give her feedback. when she asked her for feedback, the woman started crying.
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she had never given back to a colleague before, let alone her boss. >>so they need a lot of guidance to bring them to that points. i want to ask you about how you can situate netflix within the corporate universe. before we do that, let's play you a quote from the book. this is how we are all really under the spell of the industrial revolution. you say "most companies are still following the paradigms of the industrial revolution, but the biggest risk is not making a mistake or losing consistency. it is failing to attract top talent to invent new products, or to change direction quickly when the environment shifts." what kind of other companies can realistically get away from the industrial revolution if we are talking about the public sector? you have got employment laws that a company has to apply that
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date from that. what does a company have to do? >>you have to ask the question, what is my principal goal? is my main go to eliminate error and create consistency. if you're running a factory, that is your goal. is my main goal to innovate faster and be more flexible? if so, this is a methodology for you. let's think about the vaccines that came out of johnson & johnson. parts of that organization clearly innovation is what they needed to come up with those vaccines. there, no rules rules. but in other parts of that country -- company, eliminating ever is there fundamental goal. there, they can stick to traditional methods. >>francis obviously traditionally a country run by engineers -- france is obvusly traditionally a country run by engineers. it is a culture of not making
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mistakes and consistency. can you imagine a cultural revolution in france in corporate culture in the public sector? or, or is that unimaginable? >>i can imagine it. i have been living in france for 20 years. french people like freedom. in most french companies, there are a lot of procedures and rules and processes that are fixing or tying the company tne today's situation. but most french employees would like to have more freedom. that freedom, in france, also will breed more flexibility and innovation. i expect to see a lot more of that here in paris in the future. >>on that very uplifting note, we would have to end. thank you so much. erin is the co-author with reed hastings, the founder and ceo of net -- netflix of "no rules
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rules." thank you so much for watching the interview. we will see you again on the program very soon. goodbye. >>reporters, exclusive insights, the stories that matter, real people all around the world. france 24's international correspondents witnessed the news as it happens, where it happens, and they bring it to you. >>join me every week for a new addition of reporters on france 24 and france 24.com. ♪
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