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>> time for a quick check of the headlines -- within the last half-hour, dozens of rockets have been fired from gaza into israel. hamas, which controls houston, said it had fired 130 rockets towards tel aviv. israeli airstrikes have destroyed a building housing media organizations in gaza. it is not so f from where al jazeera offices are located. israel fired a warning shot before destroying it. in total, 35 palestinians have
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been killed over two days of israeli bombardment in gaza. we have this update from gaza city. >> in gaza, there is more shelters for people to go to in case of israeli airstrikes. many of the victims were in the wrong place for wrong time. people prefer to stay home rather than go on the streets. normally people go out to buy meat for eid. >> israeli border police are redeploying from the occupied west bank to central israel
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after large-scale rioting. a state of emergency has been declared in the area. several cars were satellite. the united states and the united nations have called for de-escalation. the arab league has condemned the airstrikes on gaza and called on the international community to help stop the violence. qatar's foreign minister called for an effective arab position to stop attacks and violations. those were the headlines. the news continues here on al jazeera after" inside story or, stay tuned. -- the news continues here on al jazeera after "inside story."
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state tune. >> many palestinians forced from their homes, and dozens killed in israeli airstrikes. could we see a third uprising as palestinian anger grows? this is "inside story." hello. welcome to the program. tensions have been simmering for weeks in occupied east jerusalem. monday, the situation took a dangerous turn when israeli police stormed a compound injuring hundreds of palestinians. armed group hamas responded by firing rockets into israel, which in turn sparked the
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airstrikes. at least two israeli women were killed by the rockets. hamas had warned it would act when israeli police used rubber bullets, stun grenades, and teargas. occupied east jerusalem had been on edge anyway because palestinian families are being threatened with eviction from their homes. israeli settlers have wedged battles in attempt to force palestinians from the neighborhood. al jazeera correspondence have been following the development on both sides of the conflict. >> the simmering tensions, this violence began with the situation here at the beginning of the holy month of ramadan on the steps of the damascus eight.
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the decision by the security forces to block it off to the usual kind of gatherings that we see likely during ramadan. it was a real source of anger, protest, and skirmishes between palestinians and israeli security forces. all that gold and magnified but what was taking place in a nearby neighborhood where there was the imminent threat of evictions on palestinian families who had been living there for generations, and all of that boiling over on monday. those scenes we saw -- courtyards, those very violent scenes with israeli security forces moving in in great numbers, and of course, leading to that deadline given by hamas for a complete withdrawal by the israeli forces by 6:00 p.m. local time monday. just after that, the launching of seven long-range rockets on the jerusalem area. for israel, prime minister benjamin netanyahu said that was crossing a red line and required
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a full-scale response -- a fourscore response. we are seeing that now, and the israeli government offices it will last for days as well as that, the death toll mounts after wave after wave of rocket fire coming out from inside the territory itself, so it is an extremely volatile situation and also worth mentioning, something being less reported, the spread of violent protest to palestinian, israeli, and mixed towns. there's a danger of the violence continuing to spread throughout israel, turning into potential intercommunity violence. we have seen an instance of that already with a palestinian killed by gunfire by a jew. we are talking about civilian against civilian. that is an extremely dangerous and volatile situation in itself. >> we have reports from ramallah
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in the occupied west bank. >> there have been several calls for protests in cities in the occupied west bank, and we have seen several had to confrontation. we know that east jerusalem and gaza are separated from the occupied west bank military checkpoints, that palestinians would need permits to be able to say they wanted to go and show their anger and say that even though they could not be with their fellow palestinians physically, they are doing what they can because they believe they are living in the same plight under the same israeli operation and its measures. we have seen a lot of frustration among palestinians when it comes to how the palestinian authority is dealing with the latest escalation. they believe they have given a very soft stance, and this is why this position has manifested in some of the protests we have seen in ramallah.
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one of the protests we have seen, officials holding hands and marching in the protests while the younger generation was leaving a gap between them. it was a deliberate gap to show that they are not following their leadership. when we asked some of the palestinians if they know there is an arab league meeting on tuesday, many of them told us they don't even care to know because they believe that the arabs have failed them and they are left to fight the israeli occupation on their own. >> countries worldwide calling for the escalation of tensions. the united nations held an emergency meeting, but no statement was issued. the head of the arab league condemned the violence by israel against palestinians and its attacks. jordan described jerusalem as red line and called for an end to provocative measures. turkey called on world leaders
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to take effective action against what it called israeli terror. let's bring in our guests. the deputy regional director for the middle east and north africa at amnesty international in tel aviv. the former national security advisor to the prime minister of israel and former major general. and a political analyst and founding member of the democratic national assembly, welcome to the program. the events which continue to unfold at this particular moment -- is this something that could be contained by all the parties, or do we see the situation spinning out of control now? >> i would say it could be contained if we could break the circle of impunity that has existed in israel for many years.
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we have to open an investigation into the situation in the occupied palestinian territory. this could be a new chapter for what happens whereby international law and respect for human rights can be front and center into how things go on the ground and how the international community deals with this situation. the recent events are reminiscent of what happened in 2014 in gaza, which is said to have been the most devastating and destructive activity in the palestinian territory. the only reason this could happen and we could see violations continue is because there is no accountability for human rights violations. >> by storming the compound,
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firing rubber bullets, stun grenades, teargas, what was israel trying to achieve? when you know these are very important, religiously speaking, moments for muslims all over the world and for palestinians in particular? >> as you know, the jewish temple was there. almost 1700 years before islam came to jerusalem. from a jewish point of view, it is the holiest place for us. if the palestinians would not begin riding, throwing stones, trying to prevent jews from visiting the holy place for the
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jews, the police would not come in. it is a very quiet place many days during the year, and if the palestinian would not initiate such rioting, such etiquette towards the jews, i don't see the police doing anything, so the initiation of all this was done by the palestinians against the jews in jerusalem. jerusalem is the capital of israel, a jewish city 2000 years before islam came to the area. >> i see your point. >> of course, if you are the colonizer and brutalizing palestinians day in and day out for over 50 years, sure, there's no way you're going to find fault with the brutality of the israeli police on a daily basis, much in a batch must last --
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much lessd an attacke on the compound. having said that, in of the israeli measures and of the racist marchers of israeli settlers who are completely unhinged, marching through occupied jerusalem, chanting their threat, so the provocations, this escalation, they were accumulating over days, specifically throughout the month of ramadan when the access of palestinian jerusalem rights to areas they traditionally go to after breaking their fast was restricted. the rioting was all over the world, but it was allowed to continue. these are the allies of benjamin
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netanyahu, and he wanted to show them that he is still their friend, and now we are where we are because of that. >> the focal point of the discontent which soon degenerated into water confrontation was families facing eviction. do you see an outcome that could potentially change because of the latest developments on the ground? >> unls they dismantle the system that imposes on palestinians, no good outcome would be possible. this is not the first time the palestinians are evicted from their homes to make place for settlers. east jerusalem is an occupied city. the population there is protected under international humanitarian law. since 1967, it has pursued
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policies that translated into forced displacement, which means the demolition of palestinian homes, restricting how much they can plant and build, and basically pushing them out of this territory. unless international law human rights are front and center to how the community deals with the situation there in occupied east jerusalem, we will see continued violations of rights, and unfortunately, continuous violation of the palestinians. >> do you see the next government in israel changing
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course? >> israel is a state with law, unlike many countries in the middle east. they appeal to the supreme court, and the supreme court will make a decision. in israel, we obey the law, and if the ruling of the supreme court is we should l the palestinian continue to live in these houses, we will. it is a legal issue. one group saying it is mine, another group sing no, it is mine. you never know before the court
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makes the decision what the decision will be. that will be obeyed at least by the authorities. there is no question about it. it really must depend what will happen in the meantime. i have one remark about the issue of settlers in east jerusalem. ironically, and it is almost impossible by nature, the number of palestinians in jerusalem is bigger now, much more palestinians living now in east jerusalem in the senate. if those people who spoke about taking the place of the palestinians by settlers and so on and so forth, all these organizations, how it is that the number of palestinians staying in jerusalem is growing all the time and palestinians
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from the west bank want to move into jerusalem? while palestinians are emigrating from the west bank into jerusalem and asked to have israeli papers? "-- [crosstalk] you did not stop the two other guys, so don't stop me, please. what they describe is the reality on the ground. >> i just have to remind you that the housing project was started in 1956, and then there was an agreement between jordan and the united nations to hand over ownership of those places back in the 1960's. go ahead. >> with all due respect, you asked me a question and i answered.
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you did not ask them. you asked me. it is my view. the number of palestinians in jerusalem is growing all the time because palestinians are emigrating from the west bank into jerusalem. if the situation in jerusalem is so bad, why are they emigrating from the west bank into jerusalem? >> is this going to be purely legal for a political battle? >> the israeli ports are part and parcel of the regime of colonialization, and report after report, study after study proved they are no more than tools to provide cover for the dispossession of palestinians and the systematic discrimination against palestinians. israel legislates laws to ensure that palestinians are
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discriminated against. why israeli settlers and settler organizations can claim land and property belonging to palestinians, palestinians who actually have legitimate claim and deeds of their properties cannot do the same in what is now recognized as israel proper? the argument is a bit upside down, but again, that is not surprising given the fact we are talking about, you know, a colonial regime trying to market itself when it is so clearly exposed for what it is. the issue in jerusalem is not one of a real estate dispute. it is one of a colonial occupation. there is occupier and occupied.
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denying that fact, making it look otherwise does not change the fact. their numbers are increasing. we have families like all other humans, but at the end of the day, we are not in jerusalem because life is good and israel is treating us well. we are in jerusalem because that is our homeland and we have every right to stay and every right to move freely. it's not immigration. it is the right to freedom of movement. >> let's move forward because we have different angles to cover. a muted international response could be an indication the world would like to see palestinians making compromises for them to move forward. it cannot be just stuck in the mindset of the past. >> it is about basically palestinians staying in their own homes, what can you change about that? what is happening now already happened in 1948.
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in 2009, 2010, there was a first wave. settlers were taking over their homes and we are seeing this again and we will see this carrying on if this system of institutionalized discrimination is not stop. the original inhabitants of the city are treated as foreigners as people are coming to visit. to your guest, it is not about trying to say palestinians deserve amnesty. if a palestinian from east jerusalem is married to a palestinian from the west bank, the palestinian from the west bank cannot have the right to live in east jerusalem. the law prevents them from doing
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this. >> where does it leave the future of the relationship between israel and palestine? the international community has been saying that the expansion of settlements is the biggest threat, and it is approaching the eu, which said this is something that will cause further damage to the prospects of a viable palestinian state. how do you see the future? >> first, we have a law the palestinians cannot emigrate from the west bank into jerusalem because the number of palestinians that want to move from the west bank into jerusalem in such high numbers they cannot be swallowed by the jerusalem area. he asked the question why they want to immigrate because things are so bad in jerusalem.
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second, the issue is not new. the palestinians were against the immigration of jew into their homeland since the beginning of the 19th century. the palestinians did not accept the decision of the united nations. that caused the beginning of the war in 1948, which has ended from the palestinian point of view -- it is something new. if the palestinian will not agree to compromise, what they want is to destroy israel -- they will never succeed. i have heard people saying on al jazeera it is the 13th uprising of the palestinians and what they achieved in this 13th uprising -- nothing. why? they are not ready to compromise.
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the jews in israel said they do not like the decision of the united nations, but if you are having an independent state and peace between the palestinians and jews and we have to accept two states, we are ready. the palestinians say never a jewish state, it will be destroyed, so they tried. they did not succeed. they can continue to do the same in the future and will succeed as well as they succeeded in the past. >> almost 30 years since the peace agreement between the israeli and palestinians, the central element was that the americans were able to play as a broker. now biden seems determined to not be bogged down in any further middle east conflicts. do you think the americans have to take part in the conflict? >> i think they showed.
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i'm not sure they will. i think the biden administration simply does not have the backbone for the interest, really, to realign u.s. policy with international law, to realign u.s. policy with the growing consensus among americans, especially the constituents of this administration, the democratic party, to support palestinian rights, to support international law, and to reject this length check for israeli violations and israeli actions, and to bankroll these violations as well, to finally condition military aid to israel, which is a military superpower in the region. all of these things would be in the interest of the american administration. i don't see it happening, although strategically speaking, i see that the trend is moving in the right direction and that more and more u.s. elected officials are aligning their
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positions with the moral for the logical way to go, which is to say that there has to be a standard upon which we have relations with countries, and they must apply to all. the exceptionalism that israel has enjoyed that has allowed it to do all of these things has to stop, and this arrogance with which palestinians are treated is simply untenable. >> thank you. we have to leave it there. i promise we will go back and revisit this particular story as it continues to unfold. thank you for watching. you can see the program any time by visiting our website, aljaze era.com. you can also join the conversation on twitter. for me and the entire team here in doha, goodbye for now.
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