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♪ host: time for a check of headlines and al jazeera. thousands of gathered in a t shirt support for the military. it is the first rally since the colonel seized power last month. we have more. >> what is interesting is most mullions did not come out in support of the military and chose to stay home because since the military to power the security situation has gone from bad to worse. just this week we saw attacks from an al qaeda affiliate in the south of the country, not in
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the central or north. we saw an attack on the you and base -- un base days ago perhaps organized by the groups in the sahara. they are gaining ground and getting areas where the malian army are losing control. host: israeli forces have fired two gaza palestinians taking part in a marathon in occupied east jerusalem. it was held to show solidarity with families under threat of losing their homes to israeli settlers. the run -- protests against israeli occupation were held in the west bank. israeli forces fired tear gas and rubber coated steel bullets at demonstrators. at least 20 people were injured. the u.n.'s humanitarian chief words parts of ethiopia are on the verge of famine. mark is urging an end to
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fighting and tigre region and saying food insecurity is reaching levels last seen in the 1980's. facebook has suspended former u.s. president donald trump or 2 years. it said trump was banned for violating committee standards in connection with the capitol hill riots. trump accused facebook of censorship. g-7 countries are in the u.k. for a desk at summit. covid-19 vaccine distribution and economic recovery are high on the agenda. a plan to tackle tax avoidance by big corporations is also being discussed. a vigil in hong kong for victims of the 1989 tiananmen square massacre as been stopped by police. some people did together but they were dispersed. the organizer of the vigil was arrested on friday. 2 activists have been detained including the organizer. those were the headlines. the news continues on al jazeera after inside story. stay tuned.
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goodbye for now. ♪ host: benjamin netanyahu's rivals have united to form a new coalition after 4 inconclusive elections in 2 years. is this the end for israeli's longest serving leader? with the recent conflict in gaza will anything change for the palestinians? this is inside story. ♪ host: welcome to the program. israel's fragile coalition is preparing for its first test of
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survival and the man it is trying to push from power is not going without a fight. benjamin netanyahu has enclosed his old allies turned rivals of selling out to form the new coalition, which includes hard-line right-wingers, liberals, and historically a palestinian-israeli party. netanyahu is trying to woo potential detectors away before it holds a confidence vote. we bring in our guest shortly. let's take a look at the main players in this alliance of political opposites. bennet, who comes from same that -- the same right wing politics as benjamin netanyahu and opposes a palestinian state. the centerleft party holds more seat than bennet's by that is believed he was willing to go second in order to hold the coalition together, and abbas, who holds the conservative
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united arab list. his inclusion would be the first worry party representing palestinian-israelis. they say it will give them a real voice in government. ♪ here we go. let's bring in our guest from tel aviv. adjunct fellow at the washington institute for near east policy. he joins us from of the hague today, coeditor of an online magazine produced by the arab studies institute, and the u.s. ambassador to israel. he is currently a distinguished fellow at the council on foreign relations. welcome to you all. is mr. bennet a pragmatist or ideologue? >> mr. bennet is an ideologue os by force of necessity become a pragmatist, and the clearest indication is the agreement to form this rather diverse and ideologically diverse coalition
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government. it is not something he would have done in years past. i was also skeptical even just last week that he would not have taken the path of less resistance and cut a deal with netanyahu and emerged, but we saw him take a more courageous path in his mind and overall for the greater good of the country and ending netanyahu's long reign. host: what is the difference between netanyahu and bennett? guest: i think the short answer is it is the same old rancid wine in new bottles, and most people will accept this is essentially a personal dispute or power struggle between 2 claimant's -- claimants to the prime minister ship rather than
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a change of government under any important policy or ideological differences. the real question concerns longevity of this government, given the breadth of the coalition expected to take power, and secondly whether prime minister netanyahu will manage to remain eligible for public office and form a potentially new coalition after elections or whether he will be removed, in which case the possibility of a new right-wing coalition without netanyahu becomes entirely possible, but as far as the bigger issues are concerned, i certainly would not expect any difference. host: martin, if it is out with the old but in with the old when it comes to political footprints in the sand, if you will, can the biden administration work with mr. bennet more easily than
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it could work with mr. netanyahu? you have a freshface, a phase that is less belligerent and you can build confidence in that relationship. guest: definitely all of those things. this is good news for the biden administration. they were looking at the alternative of eight netanyahu led hard right wing religious coalition that netanyahu led into opposition into the iranian nuclear deal and would have pushed settlement activity and legislation to legitimize illegal settlements, outposts, that would have created a combination of a good deal of heartbreak for the biden administration, and regardless of how rancid this coalition may
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look to some in the arab world, it is a freshfaced fort washington, and it is not just bennett. it is bennett, and ideologue who is definitely the strongest proponen@@ of annexation and the strongest opponent of a palestinian state. he is constrained by the labor and merits left-wing parties in the coalition and he is constrained in terms of the relationship with the united states, which he has to take more seriously when he is sitting behind the prime minister's desk then when he was operating at a different capacity. host: mary, coming back to you and tel aviv. when you talk to ordinary israelis, are they content that for the first time ever we have arab representation in the coalition? we have had a rubber
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representation for several years, but not in coalition government. for ordinary, protects -- perhaps younger israelis who have gone to the polls for the first time or second time, do they think that is a good idea or bad idea having arab representation at the top table? guest: it depends on which is really you ask. you have to remember despite the potential formation of a new government, this is still a deeply divided country, almost 50/50. netanyahu did not gain and succeed that narrow government martin indicated by 75,000 votes, it seats in parliament. we are not talking about wide margins. the official representation of an israeli-arab political party and a governing coalition is
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historic, positive. the irony is that netanyahu himself put this on the table in the past month or 2. he started negotiations with the very same party, so he by his very attempts to gain his own government actually brought the arab-israeli little parties into the fold. they oppose him. host: go back to your point of shelflife or longevity. the numbers at the moment really do not stack up in favor of mr. bennet having a long shelf life. he has seven out of 120 seats. is that why certain politicians are already putting on full display for everyone to see around the region tensions that already exist? is that what people are saying
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we will keep it focused on domestic issues. we will not go near the big, red hot international disputes. guest: it is important to recognize this is an eight party coalition, and the only thing the parties were able to agree upon was the removal of benjamin netanyahu from office, and on virtually every other issue, particularly the more important issues there is no consensus whatsoever. the question becomes once they have achieved their common objective, assuming they do so, what happens then? my suspicion is they will plod along basically continuing the policies of the current government without changing them in any substantial way one way or another, and at the same time bear in mind it has only a razor
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thin majority within the israeli parliament, and all we need is netanyahu inciting against it day and night as i left-wing government bill holden to arabs and all the rest of it, and it is fairly conceivable it will not take too been long before you get one or 2 parliament members from one of the right-wing parties defecting. next thing you know you have eight no-confidence motion and is back to square one. host: martin, what is it about mr. netanyahu? she spent the past 18 hours or so describing what we think is about to eminently arrive as being dangerously left-wing, and he knows there is another vote scheduled for june 14. he has nine or 10 days of trying to pick off individual members of parliament to side against what the coalition could be and arguably should be.
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what does that say about kim as a politician? guest: -- him as a politician? guest: he is still the smartest politician in israel, but it has backfired on him. all of his tricks have boomeranged on him, particularly bringing the arab party into the fold, legitimizing them. he has lost some of his reputation for being a magician. i doubt that he is going to succeed in pulling weight 2 or thre politicians to stop this vote of approval for the new government, because what does he have to offer them? it is not as if he has an alternative government. he would be at a very different situation today. one should never underestimate
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in my experience the glue that keeps ministers stuck to their cabinet seats, and it is a powerful blue -- glue. i do not think any of those forming the government today will want to go to elections. that was the primary motivation of bringing them together in the first place. i think it will hold for a while . there are going to be centrifugal pressures, because the right-wing base of the new prime minister bennett is going to be pushing hard for things like more stlement activity, and he is going to have to worry about what will happen to is based, and netanyahu will definitely be out there trying to rally support against bennett, so it is not going to be an easy ride, but the sense
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that if we do not hang together we will hang separately is something that is going to give them longer tied into government that we might expect. host: last point before we move onto the other side of the debate, the other side of the border in tel aviv. mr. netanyahu and spent years hitting all of the pressure points for the ultra orthodox lobby within the mechanisms of israeli politics. will a bennett administration to precisely the same thing if only because it has to? guest: i do not believe it has to. the ultra-orthodox avenue been in power for many years if not decades. their alliance with netanyahu with the safety net that provided him and his various governments with inception, but it is a new day on that issue. if and when the government will
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be seated, take a look at joe lieberman, the hard right ultranationalist but ardent secularist. the ultra-orthodox have influence and power in is really politics precisely due to the power of the purse. you have to take a look at the economic and budgetary policy of this new coalition government to see where israel is headed in terms of their relation between religion and state, and i will conclude by commenting what martin said. the biggest situation that will keep this opposition together is netanyahu. the threat of netanyahu toppling this new government and returning to power exists, it increases the likelihood of action.
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host: the footprint of this government, this administration is we are not netanyahu. guest: absolutely. you had opposition parties running on that very platform. netanyahu -- host: it seems to me listening to what you guys have been saying over the past 10 minutes or so any moves forward in the right direction for palestinians -- do not hold your breath for that to happen anytime soon because it will not happen. guest: if i get a very briefly respond to the previous point i agree about netanyahu being the glue that holds this coalition together. the question becomes what happens if netanyahu is deposed as opposition leader, which is a realistic possibility. if you look at this from a palestinian perspective, i believe that decades of lateral
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diplomacy -- bilateral diplomacy under u.s. supervision as left all but 2 or three palestinians convinced that the prospect of achieving their rights on the basis of decisions taken by the israeli government are no more realistic, and therefore a different formula needs to be found to achieve palestinian rights and is-palestinian peace, and that is through the internationalization of palestine taking it back to its origins and seeking to generate both external pressure on israel and trying to broaden international sponsorship of any negotiations beyond israel's primary and strategic ally, the united states. host: what you say a different formula, that as got to be a different formula wrapped around
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the same people, so you would still have israel and and intermolecular -- interlocutor. biden is on record saying i do not want to get sucked into another middle east peace process. abbas selling, devising a different narrative that does not involve hamas rockets. guest: let's leave abbas, the increasingly obsolete and i suspect not much longer lasting palestinian leader out of the picture for the moment, because he is being rapidly overtaken by his own people who are seeking to overcome the fragmentation, political, geographic, and otherwise. it has been a hallmark of the oslo process. what palestinians are increasingly seeking to do is
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not relying on bilateral negotiations with israel where israel has the effect of veto over each and every palestinian right and it's limitation but seeking international pressure on israel to ensure israel is left with no choice but to respect and implement palestinian rights. it will be a difficult and lengthy process, but part of it, i think, is also going to depend on broadening international involvement in potential clemency besides the united states. it is unrealistic to think the united states will not be involved, but a situation where the united states is the only external party involved and has basically seup the process so that it meets israeli interests at the expense of palestinian rights and systematically is no
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longer something palestinians are willing to accept. host: martin, is this fragility of this coalition a good thing for one issue you mentioned? at the top of the show you were talking about around -- iran and restarting the nuclear deal. if this coalition survives in part by only keeping itself focused on domestic issues for the next year or 2 and does not turn a blind eye to getting the jcpoa up and running again but turns to the shade, does that mean everyone who wants to get iran back into the church of progress on nuclear ambitions can get on with the job and is really leaders can get on with running israel? guest: i think there is a consensus in israel across the board politically against what the united states intends to do,
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go back to getting around -- iran in compliance, but the difference will be the extent and style of the opposition. they recognize as i think arab leaders do as well that this is going to happen, and they cannot stop it. the united states will go back to the deal. if iran decides it will go back to the deal, therefore, the extent of the disagreement is going to be different. the defense minister of israel is now in washington asking for another $1 billion in assistance to refurbish, resupply the material used in the last round of conflict with hamas. you cannot bite the hand that feeds you in the circumstances.
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the bigger question will be what happens beyond the nuclear deal. the claim the administration makes that it will negotiate a stronger deal as phil credibility and the middle east. -- has no real credibility in the middle east. israel is involved in kinetic actions with syria, iraq, and that will continue, and as the clock ticks on the sunset clauses in the nuclear deal, the israelis are going to become more focused on the idea of some kind of military preemptive act against iranians right when the united states will be focused elsewhere. they will have to find a way to work together to deal with this
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problem. host: very briefly because we are adding toward the end of the program. mr. netanyahu is at ground zero, questions and allegations running what he did and did not do what he was, is israeli prime minister. there was another legal process going on to do with illegal settlements, and the fact of that process displays to the world, the broader region, the settlement machine keeps on rolling. mr. bennet presumably will not pull the plug on that. guest: she will not, -- he will not, but it remains to see -- remains to be seen what policy will be formally with regard to the west bank -- formulated with regard to the west bank. a member of that merit party put
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it best publicly visible. this will be a status quo government. do not expect a major breakthrough, a 2 state solution and everybody dancing in the streets. on the other hand do not expect us to go crazy in the settlement . have you to read -- thread that it will say a lot about the israeli government and the staying power of the government. host: you get the last 35 seconds -- 45 seconds of the program. you are not the first person to say abbas's low energy and headed for political exit. if palestinians deserve higher energy leadership, if they have to engage or want to engage with an israeli government, where will that come from, and you will that person be? guest: we are seeing it is coming from palestinians on the ground and palestinians
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everywhere, whether it israel, gaza, west bank, jordan, lebanon, and so on. we are at eight pivotal moment -- a pivotal moment. it will not be a long-lasting moment. the palestinian property should be to reunify themselves so that they can develop a meaningful strategy implemented by credible leadership precisely because the status quo has become unbearable , and as we saw in the last month one can call for maintenance of the status quo but it will be overtaken by events. host: we have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us on inside story. thanks to our guests, and thank you to bank for your company. you can see the show anytime -- too for your company. you can see the show anytime on our website. you can also join the
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