06/09/21 06/09/21 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from new york this is democracy now! >> our tax system is broken. everywhere you look, there is one several for americans in a different set of roles for the richest people. one of the most glaring examples is how the tax code treats well. amy: a major leak of i filings has revealed multi-billionaires jeff bezos, elon musk, warren buffett, michael bloomberg, and

george soros have had all years -- avoided paying any federal income tax some years, even as their wealth sword. we will speak to a reporter from propublica who broke t story. then to "teover." a new cumentarlooks ba at w the ung los took or a hoitaln the soh bronx 1970. >> our plan was to take over and hospital. we have to stand up for the puerto rican people and say, enough. >> we have been asking for changes to take place. they pay no attention to us. we are goi to n the hospit. you're out amy:e will sak to t direct o"takeove as well as our own jn gonzalez who helped organize the action. we look at the shocking

treatment of migrant children in u.s. custody. video has emerged. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. i'm amy goodman. vice president kamala harris wrapped up her visit to latin america tuesday after meeting with mexican president andrés manuel lópez obrador and praising the new era of bilateral relations between the two countries. the u.s. and mexico vowed to continue their joint efforts in blocking asylum seekers from reaching the border, for which mexico has long received u.s. funding. asylum seekers crossing through mexico often face deadly violence and racism from mexican authorities and organized crime. harris has also come under fire for not yet visiting the u.s.-mexico border. she was questioned tuesday by lester holt. vice pres. harris: this whole

thing about the border, we have been to the border. we have be to the boer. >> you haven't been to the border. vice pres. harris: and i have not been to europe. i don't understand the point you are making. amy: in related news, over children ripped apart from their 2000 families at the u.s.-mexico border might still be separated from their parents according to a homeland security report. it can nearly 4000 children were subject to the trump administration's family separation policy. a biden administration task force set up to reunite families has so far reunified just seven children. in more related news, cnn is reporting u.s. border agents have been deployed to cancún, mexico, to surveil and detain travelers in the southern, coastal city whom they suspect of being asylum seekers headed to the u.s. in other immigration news, canadian media and data giant thomson reuters is facing mounting pressure to end its ntcts with immigration and customs enforcement, or ice.

reuters just signed a new multimillion-dollar contract with ice for a car license plate reader to help the agency access the movement of vehicles across the country. until recently, reuters also provided ice with a software called clear, which helped surveil and consolidate the public records of immigrants who could then be targeted for deportation. reuters is holding an annual shareholder meeting today, and activists are calling on investors to demand the board cut ties with ice. the immigrant justice group mijente, which has been leading the campaign, said -- "this tech continues facilitating deportations and raids, leading to terrorized and distraught immigrant communities across the u.s. it must end." in washington, d.c., president biden cut off talks with senate republicans on what he hoped would be a bipartisan compromise on his infrastructure plan after weeks of failed negotiations republicans have rejected proposals to raise taxes on corporations and the ultra

wealthy to help fund the plan. the white house says biden is moving on to talks with another group of bipartisan senators in the hopes of salvaging his bill. meanwhile, the so-called problem solvers caucus, made up of dozens of bipartisan house members, are proposing a $1.2 trillion spending package. biden is embarking on a week-long trip to europe, which will include the g7 summit. prominent civil rights groups and leaders met with west virginia senator joe manchin tuesday in the hopes of coincing the conservative democrat to support the "for the people act," a sweeping bill to protect voting rights at the federal level. manchin said the talks did not change his opposition despite having co-sponsored the bill just two years ago in 2019, even though it also received no republican support at the time. manchin is now claiming the lack of bipartisan support is his reason for opposing the bill. he has instead suggested he would vote for a limited bipartisan-supported "john lewis voting rights act." but on tuesday, senate minority

leader mitch mcconnell came out against the john lewis act, calling it unnecessary. reverend dr. william barber announced the poor people's campaign would hold a "moral march on manchin" in west virginia next monday. cnbc reports americans for prosperity, a lobbying group backed by billionaire charles koch, has been pressuring manchin to oppose key democratic legislative efforts, including filibuster reform and voting rights legislation. meanwhile, tuesday, senate republicans blocked the paycheck fairness act, which seeks to remedy the gender wage gap, leading to yet more calls to abolish the filibuster. a report released tuesday by two senate committees listed a range of security failures leading up to the deadly insurrection at the u.s. capitol. capitol police received intelligence warnings armed trump extremists would try to storm the building at least two weeks before the january 6 riot but failed to take any action or properly disseminate the

information. democratic senator gary peters of michigan stated, "the attack was quite frankly planned in plain sight." in related news, trump's defense lawyers during his second impeachment trial are defending at least three people who've been charged in connection with the capitol insurrection. a more transmissible variant of the coronavirus first identified in india, known as the delta variant, now represents around 6% of infections in the u.s. in britain, the rapidly spreading delta variant is causing officials to weigh whether to fully reopen the country. white house coronavirus adviser dr. anthony fauci said, however, two doses of the pfizer vaccine or the astrazeneca vaccine appear to be highly effective in combating it. the centerfor disease control issued new travel guidelines for over 120 countries, with separate advice for vaccinated and unvaccinated travelers.

33 countries, including israel and singapore, have been moved to the lowest risk level, while the cdc recommends against nonessential travel for unvaccinated people to countries including mexico, russia, and iran. brazil and india are in the highest threat category, meaning travel should be avoided. a sweeping international sting operation has led to over 800 arrests and the seizure of drugs and tens of millions of dollars. the arrests came after the fbi and australian law enforcement developed their own encrypted device company, anom, that was then used by organized crime networks in over 100 countries. this is acting u.s. attorney for southern california randy grossman. >> the criminal users did not know for more than 18 months, the fbi captured more than 27 messages -- 27 million messages between users around the world who had the criminal discussions reviewed, recorded, and translated by the fbi. amy: a united nations official is warning of possible mass

deaths, illness, and starvation in burma after an estimated 100,000 people had to flee military attacks in eastern kayah state. the u.n. is calling for immediate action to prevent further tragedy as the burmese military continues its indiscriminate attacks on ethnic groups and protesters who have been taking to the streets since the february 1 coup. in el salvador, a woman serving a 30-year prison sentence accused of having an abortion has been released after being behind bars for nearly a decade. sara rogel was arrested in 2012 after she would to the hospital with bleeding injuries she said she sustained after a fall. rogel was a 22-year-old student and was prosecuted and sentenced . >> i know i am no danger for society. likewise, i know as well my fellow women who remain in

prison are not dangerous to society, either. and so i demand justice for them as well, so they can have the liberty that i have today. amy: el salvador has long criminalized abortions, with a total ban since 1998. dozens have also been convicted and imprisoned after having miscarriages and stillbirths. and back in the united states, democratic lawmakers are reintroducing the women's health protection act, which would prevent states from imposing restrictions on abortion. the move comes in the wake of the supreme court decision to hear ahallengeo a mississipplaw that could threaten roe v. wade. this is massachusetts congressmember ayanna pressley speaking in support of the bill tuesday. >> in this moment, where antitrust gislatures have made it clear they will stop at nothing to ban abortion care, it is simply no longer enough to say that you are pro-choice.

we have to proactively legislate racial and reproductive justice and meaningful advance policies that are from abortion care is health care and that health care is a fundamental human right. amy: and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the quarantine report. i'm y goodman in new york, joined by my co-host juan gonzalez in new brunswick, new jersey. hi, juan. juan: hi, amy. welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. a major league of irs tax filings has revealed new details about how u.s. billionaires pay little in income tax compared to their massive wealth -- sometimes, even nothing. propublica obtained the private tax records of some of the nation's wealthiest billionaires and the findings are stunning. between 2014 and 2018, the wealthiest 25 americans saw their collective wealth jump by

$400 billion, but they paid just over $13 billion in federal income taxes. that's just 3.4% of their wealth increase. warren buffett paid a true tax rate of just 0.1% on income taxes during that period, while seeing his wealth grow by $24 billion. jeff bezos, the world's richest man, paid no federal income taxes in 2007 or 2011. elon musk, the second-richest person in the world, paid no federal income taxes in 2018. george soros paid no federal income tax for three years in a row. michael bloomberg also paid no income tax one year. the biden administration responded to the explosive report financing a probe into who leaked the private irs filings. meanwhile, senator elizabeth

warren repeated her call for a wealth tax, saying -- "our tax system is rigged for billionaires who don't make their fortunes through income, like working families do. the evidence is abundantly clear -- it is time for a wealth tax in america to make the ultra-rich finally pay their fair share.? i now moment, we will be joined by the propublica reporter who, along with several others, broke the story. at first, we turn to a short video produced by propublica about the ultrawealthy, how they avoid paying taxes. >> some of the very richest americans pay little and it tas compared with alabaster fortunes grow each year. how? they use a tax strategy like the ultrawealthy are living on another planet. average people need income to paper basics like housing and food. at the ultrawealthy don't.

they could just live on borrowed cash. step one,buy. they buy an asset or build a company or inheritedorne. as long as they don't sell, they owe no taxes. they keep income as low as possible sincevery dollar they earn can be taxed stop step two, borrow. they borrow against their holdings in the bank gives them a really good deal. >> i will only $10 million with ly 3% interest. but if you take a $10 million salary from your company, you will owe almost 37% to the irs. >> so they use loan money to of their lifestyle. step thr, die. when they e, these like if y often use complicated trusts and

ilanthropic foundations to avoid the estate tax. and thei heirs can inherit stocks tax-free. the cycle starts all over again. and because that is a new video from propublica. we're joined now by jeff ernsthausen, senior data reporter, co-author of the exposé headlined "the secret irs files: trove of never-before-seen records reveal how the wealthiest avoid income tax." welcome to democracy now! what a stunning report. i think it is always easiest to link with one person to understand this whole story. the video was good, but why don't you start with jeff bezos? this is a man, wealthiest in the world, who got a $4000 child tax credit, is building-billion-dollar yacht? can you explain how this system works?

>> thank you for having me. our story is about relatively simple concepts, which is typical wage earners like you me, we pay taxes every time we get a paycheck. it comes out automatally. but for the ultrawealthy, it is a different story. they don't pay taxes untilhey decide to do something like sell a stock, a which point they are taxed on it. this allows them to accrue massive amounts of wealth almost entirely outside of the tax system. the example of jeff bezos is a good one for illustrating this. between 2006 and 2018, his wealth grew by almost $130 billn. during that time, h paid something on the order of $1.4 billn in tax. which sounds like a lot, but it is almost 1% on the amount is wealth went up.

some years he registered very low income and therefore ended up paying almost nothing in taxes and a couple of years, nothing in tes. juan: jeff, i was most struck by the warren buffett's inclusion, given how often he has publicly decried the unfairness of the tax system, the fact he is on a regular basis utilizing the benefits of being able to avoid paying taxes is really amazing. i'm wondering if you could talk about his situation in particular? >> yeah. warren buffett is sort of one of the best examples of how this works. berkshire hathaway famously does not pay a dividend. and because of that, warren buffett's ince as a major shareholder ends up being relatively low every year for

someone with as much money as he has. so his wealth shot up by tens of billions of dollars in it a five-year period when focused on in our story, and he paid in the millions in taxes. that is because his company is structured in such a way use never really realizing those gains in a way the u.s. tax system recognizes. juan: what would be the ways that the government could be able to move into this whole area of wealth versus income in terms of -- obviously, a lot of these ultrawealthy people like michael bloomberg and soros and buffett end giving a lot of their wealth to foundations as a means for them to avoid paying even a wealth tax for the end of their lives. >> yeah, it is one of the

aspects of the system that if nothing else, if you do donate your money to charity, there's not going to be a moment when those gains are taxed. so you get stuck to charity, for instance, is not like you have to sell it and then pay taxes on it and then give it to charity. you can give it to the charity and taxes are never paid on it. while these foundations do quite a bit of good in the world, it just sort of allow those who have a great deal of wealth to someone pick and choose what they contribute to while normal, everyday americans are paying into the general fund, if you will, of expenditures the government makes. amy: i want to turn to a moment in congress. abigail disney, the granddaughter of roy disney, the co-founder of the walt disney company, recently testified on capitol hill in support of a

wealth tax. she was questioned by senator elizabeth warren. >> if you don't mind my asking, how much wealth do you have an how much do to grow last year? >> about $0 million, may be more depending on how the stock market is on any given day was not it grows annually. >> thank you. you said 4% at a percent. as a average growth of about 6%. that would mean your wealth grew by about $7 million last year. that is almost 60 times the total wealth of the typical american family. let's ferment talk about that increase. do you know how much in taxes you will pay on your $7 million increase in wealth this year, dr. disney? >> not that much. it comes not from wages by things like dividends an capital gains and interest and

so forth, so all of that qualified -- >> what about your total $120 million fortune? how much do you think you will pay in taxes on that this ye? >> nothing. there is no wealth tax. amy: that is abigail disney, the granddaughter of the cofounder of the walt disney company. she was being questioned by elizabeth warren. the senator responded to the propublica investigation by tweeting -- "our tax system is rigged for billionaires who don't make their fortunes through income, like working families do. the evidence is abundantlylear -- it is time for a wealth tax in america to make the ultra-rich finally pay their fair share." jeff ernsthausen, can you explain what a wealth tax would look like and also how you calculated the true tax -- the

true tax, as you called it, on these billionaires -- of these billionaires? >> we were focused on putting that information with think is important to inform the public debate. there are a number of proposals that people have made for how wealth taxes would work -- although, it was not the focus of our article. the way we did our analysis, something that could not be done without having the tax information of these individuals, was to compare how much their wealth went up over a five-year period according to forbes with how much they're paying in taxes. that is the key concept for these folks because they're not bringing in a lot of money in wages and traditional income. they are bringing in money through things like capital gains, growth in stock value. that illustrates what matters most for them, which is how much their wealth grows each year.

juan: jeff, given that individual tax information, the information of taxpayers is generally considered a secret information, not available to the public and that you obtain some of these records, there's no criticism and some parts, especially among some republicans, that this was somehow an illegal dump of information to you -- how do you respond to the by administration trying to find out how this leak occurred rather than try to deal with what it reveals? >> obviously, we think it is taxation and for

this country didn't know what the wealthiest americans pay and we're being very selective in what we're disclosing in our story, swe think this is vitally important information to inform the public. amy: -- spokesperson. >> disclosure of confirmation information does covenantal information is illegal and we take this very seriously. the irs commissioner said today they're taking all appropriate measures, including referring the matter to investigators. amy: that is white house spokesperson jen psaki. i think it is interesting this comes right after the biden administration and the department of justice promised they would not be investigating journalists, so maybe, jeff, your email and other records will be safe if in fact this leak investigation goes on. it is an interesting contrast

between senator warren calling for a wealth tax and the biden administration calling for a leak investigation. >> absolutely. we are hoping the administration sticks to some of the rhetoric we heard in previous days, recent previous days regarding that. amy: finally, you have one of -- a number of articles here, a whole compilation of articles. you may be paying higher tax rate than a billionaire." explain. >> we released two articles, one sort of focus on what we discussed so far, which is this tax ra on wealth growth. the other we focused on the very traditional measures the irs often uses, which is taxes paid

divided by income as the irs recognizest and what a lot of people think of when they think of their tax rate. the interesting thing, even on that measure, the ultrawealthy pay less and large swath of americans because the income they do take tends to be preferential rates like capital gains, which is taxed at a lower rate than wages. even on the traditional measure, this group of the wealthiest americans pays relatively little. amy: what you plan to do with all of this information? you have not released a lot of details. what are you doing over these months? >> yeah, we're going to continue to write stories that are related to the information in here. you can expect a number of additional stories over the coming months based on this probe. amy: jeff ernsthausen is a senior data reporter at

propublica. co-author of investigative series just out headlined "the secret irs files: trove of never-before-seen records reveal how the wealthiest avoid income tax." coming up, we will look at the shocking treatment of migrant children in u.s. custody. videos emerge of officials in texas tasering a 16-year-old boy from hunter is. -- hunter s. ♪♪ [music break]

amy: this is democracy now! i'm amy goodman. the biden administration has vowed to take a compassionate approach to migrants and asylum-seekers at the u.s.-mexico border who are fleeing violence, poverty, and persecution. but vice president harris told -- drew outreach monday when she told them "not to come" during a news conference on her trip to guatemala to address to root causes of migration. harris has also come under fire for not yet visiting the u.s.-mexico border. she was questioned tuesday by

nbc news anchor lester holt. vice pres. harris: this whole thing about the border, we have been at the border. >> you have not been to the border. vice pres. hars: and i have not been to europe. i don't understand the point you're making. amy: this comes as a damning new investigation by reveal examines what happens to migrant children who arrive at the u.s.-mexico border and are placed in the custody of the office of refugee resettlement, or orr, and held in federally funded shelters. reveal found more than 80 children were turned over from these shelters to local law enforcement when they engaged in behavior common for kids, especially those who have been through trauma. many were arrested for fighting, breaking property, or mental health crises. in one case, reveal tracked a boy who left honduras at 15 to seek asylum in the united states, was in a shelter in san antonio, texas, when staff there called 911 to report he had broken some bins and bed frames. bodycam footage obtained by reveal shows a bexar county

sheriff deputy tasering the boy. a warning, the video is disturbing but the boy's grandmother wants it to be seen, so reveal published it and we will show part of it now. you can hear the deputy speaking english to t boy, who speaks spanish. the boy is tying the drawstring on his pants when he is tased for about 35 seconds. >> spoke to the boy in english. he does not tell the boy he is under arrest. >> stop! >> shops the child for about 30 seconds.

>> where are you going to take me? any good that bodycam ridge footage of this year in san antonio, texas, tasering a boy held in a federally-funded shelter. the child remains in custody now. for more, we are joined by aura bogado, senior investigative reporter at reveal who has long covered immigration, including the conditions of detained migrant kids. her new investigation with laura c. morel is headlined, "'i'm going to tase this kid': government shelters are turning refugee children over to police." welcome back to democracy now! talk about this particular situation, where this boy is held, supposedly living that from custom and border patrol facilities to all or are supposed to be -- orr is supposed to be more humane with

the neighboring in police and tase them? >> a lot of people refer to ice and border patrol as enforcement and orr, ich is an agency that should be a household name by now. those are more social workers. these are children, minors unr thage of 18, who are put in shters, noaccused any cre,tc. they are sposed to put the under federaconsent decree ande takingaref in the least restrtive kin of facility until ty can be leased without unnecessary delay. we found ovend or again that aot of chiren are kept beyo a few weeks or yond a few mons and artransferd arou for difrent reasons. we suethe goverent fo recos regding just basi cts out the eatment

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faly. you mtioned, eyid think it was important for people in the united states to see this and know how some children are treated in custody. juan: in this particular case, you're also able to talk to someone -- julie, i believe listed in the record as the child's lead case manager. why did she tell you? >> it is very rare to be able to speak with people who work in shelters. the government -- really, that is part the operation. and some of that is understandable. you want to be able to protect the rights a privacyf chilen. but col cledhelters t numbere had. i was le to eak with her for a whil shxpress a lotf regt for at happened. she was very soy. shwanted t family kno she was sorrfor whatappened

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recos or chiren who ve beenhere. in thicase we reble toee e inside from this bodycam footage. juan: some people might say, well, maybe this was a uniqu case of a law enforcement person gone rogue here, but you are able to find records there have been at least 19 police interventions with children. could you talk about whether this is an unusual or outlier case or there is a pattern? >> we know at least four children have been turned over from shelters to local -- 84 children have been turned over from shelters to local law enforcement. we been trying to get records from individual police departments and sheriff's departments and we were able to get 19 records, including the case of this child. what we found over and over and over again is that children are

charged with misdemeanors. we only found one felony charge and everything that we saw that was federal i believe assault charge -- i'm sorry, felony assault charge. that was dismissed. over and over again, thcases are dismissed. the idea a child, particularly a refugee child, someone who is flaying violence and is a minor and has special rights under international law and u.s. law would then be subjected to arrest for something like fighting or in this case allegedly eaking some plastic bins and some bed frames, that seems highly unusual i think to anybody that neither has kids -- have all been kids. a lot of young people fight. that is not necessarily unusual for any population. so we see while this may be

really egregious in terms of the level of force that was used, these arrests themselves are not uncommon. again, this is an agency that is finding these shelters with our money, with taxpayer money. and we can see some of the treatment results in being handed over to a different agency, not a federal agency, but local law enforcement agency . often kids are sent back into the system and to a different shelter. but i'm partially, this kind of arrest, even for a misdemeanor -- breaking a plastic bin -- can result in negative effect on an individual migration case. amy: this happened before the biden administration came in, but you requested information from health and human services secretary becerra. orr is run by hhs.

he did not spine to your request. can you talk about what happens with this boy and other kids? they can be moved from one shelter to another and then ultimately when they age out, they are deported? >> yeah. children are in this agency, as you said, until the age of 18 and then they become adults and are often taken by ice and put into adult detention and deport afterward we did try over and over again to get not only comment from the partment and from secretary becerra, but we also repeatedly said we were willing to share the video had a publication. this goes back some while. over and over again, the agency either stonewaed us or told us they won't comment because they

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lords. we are ming froa place of lo and respect. but we also do notake any [beep] amy: for more, we're joined by emma francis-snyder, director of the film. we are joined right here by cohost juan enzos, cofounder of the young lords, who was one of those that took over the hospital. emma, let's start with you on why you decided to focus on the lincoln hospital takeover and through it tell this remarkable story of the young lords who -- incredible archival footage but also reenactments that look like they were archival footage. quotes first of all, thank you for having me. this is a dream come true. thank you. for me, the takeover really

exemplified what the young lords were about. not only the biggest, like the largest takeover at the time, but it also has concrete, real results which was essentially a new hospital, the patient bill of rights, and ultimately a call for universal health care -- community control. for me as a young activist that wanted to learn, this kind of started off as my own process of wanting to learn and understand about successful modes of direct action. what i found out lincoln hospital was this beautiful cross-section of life and collaborativeness that cut across socioeconomic and racial lines in which the community and the workers led most of and the doctors and residents followed. i felt it was a beautiful way

that i saw for people to support and follow community control in a way that was really successful. on top of i as a film maker, it is a beautiful story. we think of cops andobbers and things they don'actually happen, but there is so much emotionn planng and courage that comeslongith dire actn. and i really wanted tsit in ose momes and empli what it tes to doomethingike th. nojust the plannin not just the thought of eating up to it, but the feeling. there was a face-off -- they took over a building and there was a face-off with the police. its just, like, it is a straight in and of itself. amy: juan, it is an astounding story and your story. ta about why you chose lincoln hospital. what were the demands?

and what these 12 hours, once you marched in, the response of the hospital and staff -- operations are going on, etc. juan: the reason we took the hospital is because we had been involved -- ihink it is underappreciated the amount of work the young lords did and what we would normally call today public health. it was dodgers the issue of the treatment in the hospital and the services and the dilapidated rundown hospital that the city had been promising to tear down for decades but had not done, but also the work we had done in lead poison detection, tuberculosis detention, drug detoxification, acupuncture -- using acupuncture for the first time in drug treatment that was developed by thew lords and the panthers at lincoln hospital that there was any other words help was a major, major concern of ours at the time.

but we understood to get the system to listen and change, you had to disrupt it. you had to find a way to force people to pay attention to the problem. i think that is the main thrust of all of our actions that we took in this wide area of public health at the time. amy: one of the stories that emma tells so well that you are involved with was the hijacking of a tuberculosis truck. if you could explain? juan: we would not call it hijacking. we called it liberating. the liberating of a tuberculosis truck. the city was misusing and would not provide in the east harlem and south bronx communities, so we redirected the route of the truck in order to be able to test more people who are at the center of what was then a

tuberculosis epidemic in the city. i want to ask emma, you interviewed me about 10 years when he first started this project. i have to tell you, i have been very impressed by the result of your work, especiallin the recreations. for a while when i first saw your final version, thoughtou would somehow found footage of what we had done back then that i was not aware of. it turns out you basically had actors re-create some of these scenes but they were so well done and even some of the characters resembled so much younger versions of cleo silvers or carlito that i thought it was archival footage. i'm wondering about the decision to take that route and in terms of telling the story? >> absolutely. while this is a true story, i think it also has come as i

referred to earlier, it had all of these cinematic elements. it is like, what does it look like taking over hospital? there is that drama, the tension. i really wanted the audience to live and breathe in those moments with you. because so much of the time, things like this make a cluster over -- glossed over and i wanted to sit in it and have the audience feel these feelings. i have to credit the director of cinematographer. she and i worked together and in honoring the third world newsreel movement at that time, honestly, like this is directly related to an the style taken from the work that was done. so just referencing that.

amy: i want to go to another clip from the documentary "takeover." the voices include juan gonzalez as well as the former new york mayor, deputy mayor said david was it begins with pablo guzman, the young lords mister of information, speaking to rerters dung the teover of lincoln spital. wtas hpened? while we were negotiang and tryi to reacsome kd oa ttlement t fir thing w had co up witas we uld clear anfree to negotiate and they sai -- whe they a sayinghis, thetried toank one oour brothers out. sai look,his is gd fait i'm ing haveo leave now becauswe' tryinto mobile w. the pole are cong u >> we say loo this iseal

simp. we d'resoe this iue righnow, theext thing -- u don't wanthe guardwithth gunsoming in the pole hatethe youn lords. loved the opportuny to get us all ionelace. >> becau the you lords had se theilli of fred hampton,he leadeof the chicago ack panths, lice oicers,hey had reason be afraid. >> wwere trified thathey were going to come in d beat us to a pulp and no one was going to help us. and those last voices cleo silvers, reporter jeff kamen featured in the documentary "takeover." juan, let's talk about that time, what you face as you were moving into this hospital. yes, this was about half a year after the police murder of fred

hampton and mark clark in chicago. you did not know if you would be shot, if you would be arrested, if you would be killed. juan: well, i think the lesson of this for us and and i think for activists today is that we were trying to negotiate with the lindsay administration, which is ostensibly a liberal republican in those days. there are not many liberal republicans today, but back then there were some. the question is to what degree did the mayor of the city control the police department? it became increasingly clear as we negotiated that he did not really control the police department and that the police department had a mind of its own and so we had to deal with the reality that even if we wanted to negotiate the lindsay administration did, the police department had other ideas. we had to take that into account in trying to figure out what to

do at that stage once was for the message throughout the city and the country about the occupation and issues involved. so we chose at a certain point after getting a verbal commitment from the administration that if we left and that could not announce anything at the time, but if we left hospital, they would indeed build a new lincoln hospital. and they did filled a new hospital short -- build a new hospital shortly thereafter but we did have to decide either have a complete standoff -- and many people injured and hurt -- or figure out a way to get out of the hospital while the police surrounded. i think emma did a good job of telling the story how that happened. recklessly, nobody was hurt. we all managed to get out and no one was arrested. amy: and the amazing escape in

white coats was amazing. how do people get to see this film at the tribeca film festival? clubs you can watch a virtually. all of our screenings are sold out. just go to the tribeca website takeover 2021. thank you so much for having me. amy: emma francis-snyder is a filemaker, director of "takeover." that doesç?ç?ç?ç?o■o■ñ■ç■ç■ç■ñ■

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