11/17/21 11/17/21 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from new york, this is democracy now! >> what we have right now is unbridled corruption in states like texasnd georgia where they had voted to empower politicians with the power to override the pple in the next election. the only anecdote in that type of corruption is strong federal voting rights bills.

that is how we ended jim crow and that is how we have to deal with the situation. amy: republicans may retake control of the house next year thanks largely to extreme gerrymandering by republican ate legiators. will ok at e fight over voting rhts withen jealo of peoe for thamericanay whoas beearrested repeated in voti rights otest cently- anwe will lk tjournali ari bean of motherones. thento clima coloniasm. why waoccupi western sahara sinced athe u.n. climate summit? >> morocco has taken a huge campaign to greenwashing military occupation of our territory and embark on this propaganda campaign that is not friendly to the environment, using its military occupation to western sahara to pass through this message. amy: and the house of representatives is voting today to censure republican

congressmember paul gosar for posting an animated video of him murdering congressmember alexandria ocasio-cortez. we will speak with his own ster who describes the congressman as a sociopath. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. as covid-19 cases continue to creep up in the united states, averaging around 85,000 daily cases, the biden administration plans to purchase 10 million courses of pfizer's covid pill. paxlovid has been shown to reduce hospitalization and death by nearly 90% in high-risk adults during trials. pfizer requested emergency use authorization for the oral treatment tuesday.

this comes as pfizer announced a deal to make the pill available more cheaply in 95 low-and middle-income nations by allowing it to be manufactured as a generic. vaccine equity advocates say the move is a good first step but condemned the fact the deal excludes so many countries. doctors without borders said -- "the world knows by now access to medical toolsbe guaranteed for everyone, everywhere, if we really want to control this pandemic." meanwhile, vaccine makers continue to report massive profits from covid treatments. oxfam found pfizer, biontech, and moderna are making combined profits of more than $1000 every second, or $65,000 every minute. in more vaccine news, the fda is expected to authorize pfizer booster shots for all adults as early as this week. a number of states have already expanded booster eligibility to

all vaccinated adults. that includes california, colorado, and new york. in news from canada, catastrophic flooding has killed at least one person in british columbia and forced thousands to evacuate their homes. some areas in the pacific northwest received nearly 10 inches of rain, triggering landslides and overflowing rivers. three major highways connecting vancouver to the canadian interior have been washed out. the flooding also forced the temporary shutdown of the trans mountain pipeline. the climate-fueled record rainfall comes just months after wildfires devastated some of the same areas of british columbia. meteorologist eric holthaus tweeted -- "after the hottest heat wave in pacific northwest history this summer, the rainy season there has begun with torrential flooding. we are in a climate emergency." in australia, climate activists

have disrupted rail shipments into the port of newcastle for an 11th consecutive day, in a nonviolent direct action campaign aimed at halting exports from the world's largest coal port. some of the activists have locked their bodies to rail cars and railroad tracks, while others suspended themselves on platforms or giant tripods in the path of trains, forcing long delays as police struggled to remove them. at least 19 people have been arrested on charges that could see some of them jailed for up to 25 years. on tuesday, activists suspended themselves from massive pieces of machinery, halting operations in the coal port. >> i am taking this action on behalf of the people. this land was never ceded over

by these people. shia has been brutalizing people, has been brutalizing the land and the water. amy: in kenosha, wisconsin, the jury in the trial of white teenage gunman kyle rittenhouse is deliberating for a second day today. rittenhouse fatally shot two people and wounded a third during protests over the police shooting of jacob blake in 2020. in a highly unusual move, rittenhouse was instructed by judge bruce schroeder tuesday to randomly draw the names of six jurors who were removed from the pool of 18 citizens who were sitting on the jury. the 12 remaining jurors then proceeded to deliberation. the random selection is typically done by a member of the court. one legal expert called schroeder's decision "an interesting piece of theater."

meanwhile, it has been revealed trial consulted joellen demetrius, known for shaping jury selection in the o.j. simpson trial, worked with rittenhouse attorneys in their selection process and closing arguments. in a closely watched trial, the state of georgia has rested its case in the trial of three white men accused of killing ahmaud arbery, the black jogger. on tuesday, the medical examiner who performed the autopsy testified that he died after being shot three times at close range, two of the bullets hit him occluding one that tore a hole in his chest. the video of his wounds were shown to the jury. the defense begins its case today. in oklahoma, advocates have been rallying outside the barricaded governor's mansion ahead of the planned thursday execution of prisoner julius jones. jones was convicted of a 1999 murder but has maintained his innocence. oklahoma's pardon and parole board recommend this month that

his death sentence be commuted to life in prison with the possibility ofarole, but the final decision now rests with governor kevin stitt. the white house has revealed president biden and chinese xi jinping have agreed for the two nations to begin holding nuclear arms talks. for decades, the u.s. has maintained a vastly larger nuclear arsenal, but china has been investing in new nuclear arms technology. earlier this year, china tested a nuclear-capable hypersonic missile. tellite imagery suggests china is also building more than 100 new intercontinental missile silos. meanwhile, the united states is planning to spend over a trillion dollars in coming decades to modernize its nuclear arsenal. in burma, the military junta which seized power in the february 1 coup, has charged overthrown civilian leader aung san suu kyi with election fraud and lawless actions. aung san suu kyi has been detained since february and is

facing multiple other charges in secretive, closed-door court proceedings. meanwhile, the u.s. journalist danny landed in new york tuesday after being released from a burmese prison on monday. >> journalists and prisoners of conscience in myanmar and everywhere else, just a lot of citizens, doctors, teachers that are in prison right now and, you know, that is another point everyone here is reiterating. this will be a short celebration. keep focused on what the actual story is here. amy: myanmar is what the burmese military renamed burma. a burmese rights group has recorded over 10,000 arrests since the february coup. according to the u.n., 126 members of the press have been arrested, with 47 currently in

detention. in chile, the senate voted against impeaching president sebastian pinera, putting an end to the removal effort that was launched after allegations of corruption and financial misdeeds emerged following revelations in the pandora papers leak. the biden administration has banned nicaraguan governnt officials, including president daniel ortega and his wife, vice president rosario murillo, from entering the united states following recent elections which saw ortega re-elected for a fourth time and which the u.s. and others have denounced as rigged. leading up to the vote, authorities arrested some 40 opposition figures, including seven prospective presidential challengers. the travel ban came one day after the u.s. announced separate financial sanctions on nicaragua. ortega has long accused the u.s. government of interfering in nicaragua supporting a coup attempt in 2018. the nicaraguan congress has denounced the organization of american states for passing a

resolution friday declaring the election lacked democratic legitimacy. in burkina faso, hundreds of protesters took to the streets of the capital ouagadougou tuesday to demand president roch kaboré resign after a recent militant attack on a defense outpost in the northern border region killed 28 soldiers and four civilians. it was the worst recorded attack against troops during a four-year conflict that has killed thousands and displaced over one million people. protesters on tuesday also demanded the departure of french forces that patrol burkina faso, as well as neighboring mali and niger, whose presence they say leads to more attacks by insurgent groups. >> we are not happy. there are too many killings. we came out in 2014 to create change, but now there is no change. nothing has changed. the worst is here. they told us it would not be

like before. why are we still seeing the worst? amy: the state department announced the u.s. is curbing refugee admissions in order to prioritize the resettlement of thousands of afghan evacuees. the pause on admitting certain groups of refugees will run through january 11. the u.s. admitted just 400 refugees in october despite president biden's commitment to resettling up to 125,000 refugees this fiscal year. north dakota's republican governor doug burgum has signed legislation banning the teaching of critical race theory. public schools are now barred from teaching students that "racism is systemically embedded in american society and the american legal system to facilitate racial inequality." a connecticut judge ruled far-right conspiracy theorist and infowars host alex jones was liable for damages in lawsuits brought by families of children killed in the sandy hook elementary school massacre after jones failed to turn over documents to the court.

for years, jones spread conspiracy theories that the shooting was a government hoax and the victims' families were paid actors, resulting in online harassment and death threats for sandy hook families. the 2012 massacre claimed the lives of 20 schoolchildren and six educators. and in labor news, workers at five branches of pacific northwest restaurant chain burgerville have become the country's first fast food employees to successfully unionize. the tentative agreement with burgerville includes expanded sick leave, vacation benefits, paid parental leave, and a reliable three-month schedule. it also guarantees pay rates that are higher than the statewide minimum wage. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. when we come back, republicans may retake control of the house next year thanks largely to extreme gerrymandering by republican state legislators. we will look at the fight over voting rights with ben jealous

of people for the american way, who is been peter the arrested over voting rights in recent months, and with journalist ari berman of mother jones. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break]

amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.o, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman in new york, joined by my co-host juan gonzález in new brunswick, new jersey. hi, juan. juan: hi, amy. welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. amy: we begin today's show looking at how republicans are set to retake the house in next year thanks to extreme gerrymandering by state lawmakers that could shape politics for the next decade. this comes as critical legislation to protect voting rights is languishing at the federal vel. today, ving righ groupare holdinthe la in a sees of protes at the ite hous

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grandma met with many political leaders to tell them why it was so important. we will march, demonstrate, and use voices. eventually, reagan signed e bill. this is what we're going to do today. the right to vote. as a 13-year-old and an activist, here's my question to elected officials, why are you in office? are you here for power or are you here to stop silence or are you here to use your platform for good? if you are here for good, it is time to stop silencing our voices. we need critical bills passed. the john lewis voting rights advancement act. these bls cannowait. amy: that i13-year-d

activistolanda kg, granddahter of v. dr. mtin luer king,r. at a otest outse the whe house rlier this mon. for moren today's prott and the urge calls f democra to "x or nix t filibusr" and passederal ving righ leslatio we are joinedn waington, c., by b jealous,residentf peopleor the ameran way, foer esident the naa. and we are joineby ari bman, nior repter for ther jos, whereis latespiece is headlid "repubcans are erasing decades of voting rights gains before our eyes." he is the author of "give us the ballot: the modern struggle for voting rights in america." we welcome you both back to democracy now! ben, thank you for joining us right before you go to the white house again today, another plan for civil disobedience. talk about why you have repeatedly been arrested. >> we are in a moment in this

country where states are surprisingly vote across the south, across the midwest, even in the far west. there's really only one way to stop it, which is that the senate -- congress has to pass urgently needed federal voting rights bills now, the john lewis bill and the freedom to vote act -- which was altered in part by joe manchin and sell. we have the 51 votes. the vice president has done her job in getting the consensus to the senate and now we need joe biden to do his job and call on the senate to create a path for an up or down vote on these bills. we need to stop the voter suppression now. juan: how do you see the parallels between what the activists are doing today pressuring president biden and what happened really a generation ago in the effort to pressure lbj around voting rights back then and even

something you're more directly familiarith, the movement to pressure the reagan administration over apartheid and u.s. complicity with the apartheid government of south africa? >> martin luther king iii told a story of his father meeting with president johnson the 1964 civil rights act was passed. martin luther king said to president johnson, it is time for us to pass the voting rights act. president johnson said, there is no way. martin luther king said to his lieutenant, we are going to have to make him do it. that is where we are now. we know president biden understands the importance of stopping these bills, but we have not seen him call on the senate to get the job done. president trump called on the senate to create a carveout in the filibuster to pack the courith -- e supremcourt with far right-winjustic.

joiden c do thato save r democry. when y go ba to reagnd thanti-apaheid prote, joe mason waone ofhe leaders of tho sers xm rad host is now on hunger strike, agn, callg on joe biden to stanup and ll on th sene to creat a path for an or dn voten thesbills. we bieve majities maer. anif they , they ould matt in the s. senat we have the votes. the bills should be passed. juan: in terms of the efforts by republicans in state after state to turn back the voting rights of people across the country, your concern of the most flagrant examples of this and what he will meet for the elections coming next year and

then the presidential elections a couple of years down the road? >> in general, these bills are meant to make it harder for people to vote. the most extreme estate legislatures give themselves the power to ultimately overturn entire statewide elections and impose their will on the people of their own state. it is the most anti-democratic thing i have ever seen. what troubles me -- my grandmother turned 105 this week. her grandfather was born into slavery and he was one of the last blacks virginia -- legislature. my grandmother carries the pain that her grandfather had of watching his colleagues vote to suppress his constituents to ensure that men like him could never serve in office again. in all my finding against voting rights in our country, what i have never expressed before this year is colleagues calling me and saying, i may not run

statewide because i am worried that my state legislature will overturn the election if they don't like the results. that is something that is simply never happened in the history of u.s. democracy before, and it should be troubling all of us. that is why these have to be passed. amy: describe what happens when you gogo outside the white hous. and talk about why you are going there. >> what we have seen is these protests keep growing. the first time no one got arrested most of the second time it was five people. the third time it was 25 people. the last timet was 62eople. todaye have over 150 tt have signed uand we are expecting buses more coming from places like detroit aeoia and we expected pple cong off tse busewill nt to get arrest,

too. let pele underand thatur demoacy been hmed in profou way. ifhese blls are t passedy chrimas, the redistricting next year will be done in a way that will be incredibly undemocratic, incredibly partisan, incredibly gerrymandered. this is our last chance to, quite frankly, get took place that for the next day can we will actually have districts that reflect the people of the state and not the ambitions of the politicians who run those states now. amy: we are running video of the protest joe madison, the well-known talkshowost, is on hunger fast right now around these issues, around these bills. i want to bring in ari berman who writes for mother jones, his well-known for his book "give us the ballot: the modern struggle for voting rights in america." can you connect the

redistricting and what is happening now, a level we have not seen before, with the filibuster and these two bills ? >> we are seeing the greatest rollback of voting rights since the voting rights act was passed in 1965. the greatest attempt to reduce the influence and power of voters of color since the voting rights act was passed in 1965. the most extreme germany efforts -- gerrymandering efforts since it was enacted. the same states that are pushing voter suppression are also pushing extreme gerrymandered maps to lock in white republican power r the next decade at the state and federal level, whether it is texas or georgia or north carolina. what republicans did is they tried to overturn the election, and they try to rig elections through voter suppression, and now they're reading elections group gerrymandering.

it is a step-by-step by process to undermine our democracy. the federal legislation that has been proposed by democrats and filibuster by republicans would stop these efforts, make it easi to vote, and also ban partisan gerrymandering. so the extreme gerrymandering we are seeing in places like texas and north carolina and georgia where these are 50/50 states but republicans are proposing to have 6570 and in some cases 80% of seats for the state legislature who these gerrymandered maps. democrats are running out of time to pass this federal legislation. we are already seeing state after state passed voter suppression laws and there hasn't been a democratic response yet. republicans have filibustered four different voting rights bills this year. four different filibusters of three different voting rights bills. there needs to be a sense of urgency to overcome the

filibuster to save our democracy or republicans are going to rig the next decade of elections. juan: you write that north carolina's three largest heavily democratic counties will each be split into three different congressional districts to dilute the power of communities of color and enhance the power of white rural areas. can you talk about this in connection -- in previous redistrictings, this would have had to have gone through preclearance as a result of the voting rights act. the impact of the supreme court decision on voting rights that now makes it possible for this kind of gerrymandering, racial gerrymandering and effect to proceed? >> there has been two disastrous decisionby the supreme court fovoting rights in redistricting.

one was in 2013 with the supreme court gutted the voting rights act and ruled states no longer have to improve theivoting changes with the federal government and another was in 2019 where they said the federal not even review partisan gerrymandering cases. this open the floodgates to more and more extreme gerrymandering so that states with a long history like north carolina, they had their maps struck down in 2011 for racial gerrymandering and partisan gerrymandering. now they're doing everything the federal courts the state courts told him not to do, which is drawing districts and a 50/50 state that will give republicans upwards of 70% of seats for the state legislature and from u.s. house. and doing it by diluting the votes and the voices of communities of color by packing them into as few urban areas as possible and then splitting up heavily democratic areas like charlotte, like the research

triangle into as many white rural districts as possible to preserve white republican power. we have seen that not just in north carolina, but texas and georgia and elsewhere were the demographic changes are from communities of color. that should benefit democrats, but republicans are drawing the districts in such a way that maintain republican power in the face of these big and massive demographic changes. amy: let's go to georgia. on monday, the legislature passed a gerrymandered state senate map giving republicans 59% of seats in the state for the next decade. the map reshapes a district held by democratic state senator michelle au and makes it lean heavily republican. this is georgia state rep for georgia bee nguyen responding on the house floor. >> i collect on the senate side who currently represents senate district 48 is the only asian woman in the senate, one out of 56 members. it means when six asian women

are brutally murdered in our state, we know there will be at least one woman on the senate side who can speak about cultural barriers, who can speak about language barriers, and who can speak about the fears that plagued the asian-american community most of just like the senator dead from senate district forget earlier this year. and here we are a state we have one million georgians come asian americans being the fastest growing population in our state, and the majority party drew a map that targets the only asian woman in the senate, and they did so by diluting the voices of black and brown voters. amy: that is georgia state legislator bee nguyen. >> that is indicative of what republicans are doi everywhere. they are dismantling diverse districts in which african americans latinos come asian

americans are joined together to elect their candides o choice. and all of the south are from those groups, from communities of color. instead of having more representation for communities of color because of the population growth, there will be less representation. this is an effort to dismantle the diversifying new american majority and to maintain white republican power in the face of these demographic changes. it is also an attempt to try to take away competitive seats. georgia was the most competitive state in the country for the president and the u.s. senate. but if you look at the state legislative maps passed by republicans in georgia, there's a must know competitive districts for the state legislature or u.s. house. the same thing they did in north carolina and in texas. i want people to understand they are writing the next decade of elections. election results will be

predetermined for many races at the state and federal level at places like georgia, texas, north carolina because of the maps being passed right now. that is how serious of us is for democracy this is. amy: i went to thank you, ari berman, mother jones writer. we will link to your piece "republicans are erasing decades of voting rights gains before our eyes." and author of "give us the ballot." before you go, ben jealous, i would ask about another issue, about what is happening in oklahoma. advocates have been rallying outside the barricaded governor's mansion ahead of the planned thursday execution a prisoner julius jones who was convicted of a 1999 murder but has maintained his innocence. another man, christopher jordan, has privately admitted to committing the murder and framing jones, according to three people who were jailed with jordan who served 15 years after reaching a plea deal in

the case. oklahoma's pardon and parole board has recommended twice that julius jones just sentence be commuted to life in prison with the possibility of parole but the final decision now rests with governor kevin stitt. you have long been an anti-death penalty activist, standing outside the execution prisons like of troy anthony davis, who spent half his life on death row and ultimately was executed in georgia. your thoughts on what is happening possibly tomorrow? >> this is an extreme injustice. the one i witness described a man with an agent have hair and julius' had was clean-shaven. he had an alibi. he was eating dinner with his family at the time. that was not introduced. the prosecutor in the case bill macy, a man who would dress up like colonel sanders before he

went into court each day and was known to carry firearms into court, has had a third of his death penalty cases overturned for prosecutorial misconduct. frankly, since many innocent people to death row. there should be no doubt that julius jones is innocent. and that is substantiated by the fact it was not just that they voted to recommend to the governor that this execution be state, they did so three to what the state of oklahoma, which quite ugly, is a state generally a fan of the death penalty. there's to be no date -- doubt about it, they need to stop execution and they need to reopen the trial. amy: thank you for being with us, ben jealous, president of people for the american way, former president of the naacp. headed out to the white house today, about 100 people are expected to be arrested into voting rights demonstration. thank you for being with us. as we move on to what is

happening in congress today, this is democracy now!n democracy now! [captioning made possible by democracy now!] republican congressman or paul gosar faces censure for his posting of an animated video on social media where he murders congressmember alexandria ocasio-cortez and attacks president biden. the censure resolution is the most severe form of punishment in the house. congressman gosar will be required to stand in the well of the house while the resolution is read. the house will also vote to strip gosar of his assignments on the committee on oversight and reform, where he serves alongside ocasio-cortez, as well as the house committee on natural resources. congressmember ocasio-cortez approved of the move, saying -- "threatening the life of a colleague is grounds for expulsion. but given the republican party

-- especially the leader -- is too cowardly to really enforce any standard of conduct, censure and committee removal is the next most appropriate step." this is house speaker nancy pelosi speaking tuesday. >> why go after him? because he made threats, suggestions about harming a member of congress. that is an insult, not only engagement of that member of congress, but an insult to the institution of the house of representatives. we cannot have members joking about murdering each other, as well as threatening the president of the united states. amy: this comes as some republicans have called out republican leadership for not taking action against gosar, even as i call to punish the 13 republican lawmakers who voted for the bipartisan structure built. commerce member liz cheney of wyoming who also sits on the oversight committee with congress member gosar, called

the inaction indefensible post of this past week in, the wyoming republican party voted to kick cheney out of the party was the gosar has taken on the video, but has refused to apologize. on tuesday, he met with house republicans during a closed-door conference meeting. gosar spoke later on "the stew peters show." >> don't know. explain what was happening. i did not apolize. thisideo has nothing to do with harming anyone. is an anime. we were trying treach out t the ner generation that likes theseartoons and things like this. amy: congressmember gosar has also spread conspiracy theories about the deadly white-nationalist rally in charlottesville in 2017 and the january 6 attack on the capitol, calling the rioters "peaceful patriots." this comes as arizona republican congressmember gosar's own sister, jennifer gosar, has

called him a "sociopath" and said his behavior could escalate. she and two of her siblings wrote a piece. she joins us n from seattle. welcome to democracy now! it is really important to have you with us. you are the youngest of 10 -- sier of the representative paul gosar? >> that is correct. there are seven brothers antwo sisters and i'm the youngest and he is the eldest. amy: tell us your reaction when you saw this animated video of your brother, posted by your brother, murdering alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> i was incensed, to be honest, but i also felt a bone chilling fear because the way in which that murder takes place in the video -- let's be clear, there is no joking here.

some of the errs of papers have done great reporting on this and connected that same account to a 2016 anime person as well which he uses that same type cartoon and again, like this is something that is not a joke. to be honest with you, the way in which that happened, i found it bone chilling, honestly. juan: in 2018, you and five other siblings are part of an ad campaign for the democratic challenger to commerce member gosar during the election. years later, are the feelings among all six of you still the same about the role of your brother? close you know, when these types of pressure calls,, they, very quickly, so i don't check but to be honest with you, i am clear that my brothe and sisters are not about attempted -- attempted

death threats. there are not intimidated and they also do not believe in that kind of sinister approach to governance. they understand is i do that he has never beenompetent but that the election of donald trump has furthered his disability and furtheredis work and he certainly utilized it. in fact, if you look at his statement, again, there is reporting that shows he is not only not apologizing, he is continuing to sing to the whites premises base that he fundraisers from. it is quite concerning and i am pleasantly surprised they have taken the steps to have the censure boat and stripped him. it is the first step. i don't think that is all that is called for. juan: given the deep polarization that continues in

american society, many families are confronting these deep divisions within their own families. as we head into the holiday season and thanksgiving, your thoughts about have found millie's -- howamilies grapple th these deep divisions among siblings and parents and grandparents? >>s torturous. i've had people reach out to me from across theount to say, thank you for standing up, i, too, have problems in my family. they are parallel to this prior to the civil war in the united states. in thinking about this, i think the most important thing to do is to stick with your integrity, to hear the voice, to reach out with compassion but be clear, strong, because if we don't stand up to this, it is only worsened. not only have we seen that happen in our country, but across the globe with authoritarianism, when fascism is not stood up to, when it is not stymied with strong, assertive response, it only

grows. cruelty only increases. amy: have you spoken to her brother paul, jennifer? close no, i have no desire to have communication with him at a personal level, i gave up. in 2018, that was a level of clarity. i realized the internal conflict i had as an interpreter sitting with people every day in the health care, listening to stories of all kinds of trauma, conflict ptsd, the effects of poverty as it strips the body's ability to maintain itself, right? as i sat with people, i felt like a hypocrite because i did not know where to speak up. i did not know who would listen to me. when the ads came out, i felt that was the opportunity and i was not going to miss it. it made it clear to me on a personal level i relationship with him was done and at i was going to reengage publicly

because i needed the help of others actually hold him accountable. that i myself with the efforts of my brothers and sisters proved useless, that we needed a bigger intervention in older -- in order to hold him accountable. juan: the january 6 events in the capitol, the attempted coup and later hearing your brother commerce member gosar -- commerce member gosar saying like a parts for organizers of that day, your reactions? folks isn't that hypocritical? he asked for a pardon for himself. if this is 70 who is innocent, then why was he asking for a pardon? and why are they actually considering that more? one of the things these writers have talked about, they showed up for a truck but trump has not packed them.

we know that isn't the cas that is dona j. trump in a nutshell. i brother pertains to that. it is interesting how he was to cover over it with more zealotry and fundraising, but the truth is, he wasn't there for his people. if you were innocent, why would he ask for a pardon primitively? why would he seek a pardon for himself? amy: what you think he will be feeling today if he does go into the well of the house -- this is highly unusual. you have called him a sociopath. you demanded the democrats do something about him since mccarthy is willing to row -- pro republicans off committees, then threaten them if they even vote with democrats, but has not in a way even condemned gosar. >> yeah, i think if he shows up -- that is a question for us, will he actually show up? i can imagine his skin crawling

at having to hear speaker pelosi read him the censure. i can see that being one of the most iring things for him. i think would almost be laughable to him that he would be like, well, they can't do anything, they want to anything, they're just a bunch of gutless cowards, right? so to take his committee censure, which was reported to suggest for this particular censure motion, i think is critical, right? what i think if he shows up, he will be early ired at having to hear nancy pelosi read that to him. amy: jennifer gosar him a thank you for being with us, youngest sister of arizona republican representative paul gosar. next up, climate colonialism. why was western sahara silenced at the climate summit?

at in 30 seconds. ♪♪ [music break] amy: this is democracy now! i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. the itish government is facing widespread criticism for excluding critical voices from the negotiations at the u.n. climate summit. one group excluded was climate negotiators from western sahara, which has been occupied by morocco since 1975. last week western sahara publicly revealed its plan to reduce carbon emissions but their announcement was not made inside the u.n. summit but at the peoples summit in glasgow because its negotiators e not accredited by the u.n. meanwhile, morocco is using renewable energy developments in

western sahara to count towards it climate pledges. last week we spoke with climate change consultant nick brooks and oubi bachir of the polisario front for europe and the european union. i began by asking oubi bachir why western sahara was not represented at the summit. >> now the republic is not yet a member of the united nations. one day, certainly, it will join the rest of the nations of the world and gain its seat in the united nations. but pending end the end of the decolonization process and the independence of western sahara, we are not yet admitted as a full member in the u.n. on the basis of that condition, the sahrawi could not present its contribution to the international climate system. that is why we are here in

glasgow. personally, morocco is undertaking a huge campaign to greenwashing of the military occupation of our territory and embark this propaganda campaign that is unfairly to the environment, using its military occupation to western sahara to pass through this message. we know morocco is now executing some project, especially on the renewable energy, on the wind energy, but more so on the solar share under the occupied part of western sahara, using also the partnership with some international, multinational companies such as the spanish -- now on a major project in western sahara just to give you a sense of the status success we have, maybe by 2030, the entire wind energy that will produce

western sahara around almost 47% of it will be illegally produced from western sahara. on solar energy, around 10% and may reach 80% of theon solar enl solar energy produced are nested to be produced by morocco, it will be produced from within the context -- legal text of occupation. and personally, international climate system, the u.n. conference on climate change is receiving the data that has been submitted by morocco and we believe it is not the right thing to do. it is illegal because this energy has been produced in context of violation of international law, there can part of justice just issued this decision last month in september on the 29th of september and a new agreement between the

european union and the kingdom of morocco because there is no legal basis because the consent of the people of western sahara was not achieved by the european union and morocco and a disregard. and the abuses of human rights are largely and widely to announced by all international humanitarian organizations, so this is the real ugly face of the moroccan occupation chart territory. juan: i want bring inick brooks. yep in a climate consultant traveling to western sahara for about 20 years or so. could you talk about the report that oubi mentions, notes that the world bank puts the offshore wind power pential of western sahara at 169% greater than that of morocco? could you talk about the

importance of western sahara in terms of renewable energy? and also, where's the african union and all this? what is it stands in recent years on the continued occupation of the territory? >> i think on the african union question, i will refer back tooubi. on the imports of the report and the role of western sahara and a climate change, certainly the potential for renewables is enormous and we are already singh morocco be good to exploit that. as he mentioned, one of the key issues here is the issue of climate justice. what we are seeing is a lot of the principles embedded in the paris agreement on climate change being ignored or abused. when we have a situation where morocco's performance against its own climate target will be dependent on the exploitation of renewable energy from an occupied territory, and that is

contracted the paris agreement of transparency, accuracy, of inclusion and equity. that in itself is important. western sahara can play a role in combating climate change and producing clean energy, but at the moment, that is happening to the mechanism of moroccan occupation and colonialism. one of the roles of the report is to try to highlight this issue and try and amplify, give the vote a voice -- give the sahrawi a voice. they have been systematically excluded from processes of climate governance and finance. if we take the finance, we can look at the manager of finance going to neighboring countries in 2019 just in terms of multilateral, looking at $300 billion. but that mauritania, $17 million, little less -- 75 million for mauritania in 17 million for algeria. western sahara see nothing.

this is public money from donor countries to climate funds to help developincountrs address the impacts of climate change and develop low carbon societies and economies. western sahara is completely excluded from this, so there tonight the resources with which they could adapt and -- i think we are mitigation here, but mitigation being reduction of greenhouse gas emissions and transition to clean energy, but adaptation is hugely important. most of the sahrawi live as refugees in the algerian desert in refugee camps, these are areas already really harsh and will suffer some of the worst impacts of climate change. talking about a big increase in the number of days for the temperature exceeds 50 degrees celsius, for example. a recent report was classified as being at the edge of a region of extreme risk from heat extremes with real consequences for human welfare, mortality,

and morbidity. talk about the floods as well. the sahrawi refugee camps, looking at a general reduction in water availability and increased heat, what rainfall is coming is more intense and extreme bursts, causing devastating floods. one of the findings about the impact of climate change is we expect more of these intense rainfall events increasing flood risk. >> let me respond to the question on the african union. as you know, the sahrawi republic is a member of the african unit and morocco withdraw as a sign -- a position to protest against our admission. but then morocco try from outside influence our position and failed because of the commitment of all african countries behind the cause of the people struggling and what is known inside the african union as africa's last colony,

which is western sahara. in 2017 morocco decided to submit a petition to be admitted under the african union and nappies sitting side-by-side -- and now is sitting side-by-side. in 2017, and a similar scenario like the one that morocco was doing with mauritania by the end of the 1960's and the beginning of the 1970's, contesting that membership mauritania and the african union but ended up accepting it. we got after the era of contestation, morocco would have been now in the era of wisdom. unfortunately, that was not the case and morocco is still on the same policy of not only occupying western sahara, military occupying, abusing the human rights of the people, plundering the natural resources of the territory, but at the same time, defying an

international attempt to de-colonize the territory and to organize the referendum that has been promised to the sahrawi people and constitutes until now the only way to settle the conflict in conformity with international law. the african union in march this year after the resumption of the arms struggle in western sahara come in violation of the terms of the cease-fire, in november last year the african union, at the conference, passed a resolution asking the two member states -- the sahrawi republic and kingdom of morocco, to engage in direct negotiations d maybe looking for a new cease-fire between them but the settlement should be on the basis of the african union charter and especially article number 4 that insists on the necessity to fully respect the inherited boundaries from the colonial europe, which means

morocco and international recognized boundaries and western sahara on its own. the next day, the moroccan government declared that it is not concerned with that and will never accept it. the african unit is clear. it is behind the sahrawi public as a founding member of it, and now we are really expecting within the u.n. system, within the security council, the voice of the africans will be heard. now on your question. amy: we only have a minute. just let me ask, is the u.n. accepting the moroccan climate commitments that include the occupied western sahara? and are you calling on these memos, the u.n. to stop accepting these? >> exactly. that is one of the major calls that we are making here, that the united nations conference on climate change

should exclude and refuse to give credit to any data, any projects that are generated in western sahara because they are generated within a context of the military occupation that the u.n. has refused to endorse. that is position of the international community that is the position of the u.n. that is what international galley is saying. the international climate system should not operate in a different way from the international system. justice is indivisible. it goes for the political settlement of the conflict but also it goes for the legal status of the territory. we are asking for a climate justice. that western sahara, the data should be excluded from the moroccan reports because western sahara has never been part of morocco. amy: that is oubi bachir, the

polisario front for europe and the european union. and nick brooks. we spoke to them last week most up that does it for our show. if you want to see our documentary "four dayswwwwwww

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