06/06/22 06/06/22 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from new york, this is democracy now! >> if the longer range missiles are going to be supplied, we will make certain to use our own means of destruction which we have enough to strike at those targets which we have not yet been hitting. amy: russian missiles strike kyiv as putin warns the u.s. and

western nations against supplying longer range missile systems to ukraine. we will speak with katrina vanden heuvel. she says "we need a real debate about the ukraine war." then the house committee investigating the deadly january 6 attack on the capitol hold its first hearing thursday. this comes as "the new york times" reports mike pence chief of staff warned pence could security threat because donald trump was going to publicly turn against him over pence's refusal to overturn the election. next day the crowd would chant "hang mike pence." we will speak with will bunch. than a california task force calls for reparations for african americans detailing the suffering of defendants of enslaved people long after slavery was abolished. >> today the task force wanted

to take the opportunity to honor our ancestors for african-american ancestors who were sold and traded off the shores of africa to build one of the greatest nations in the world, which is the united states. amy: we will speak with the task force chair california attorney kamilah moore. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. russian missiles struck kyiv for the first time in over a month on sunday. this came as russian and ukrainian forces continue to battle in eastern ukraine over the city of severodonetsk. on sunday, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy made a rare trip to eastern ukraine to meet with troops and refugees. meanwhile, russian president vladimir putin warned western nations against supplying longer range missile systems to ukraine.

>> if the longer range missiles are going to be supplied, we will make certain conclusion to use our own means of destruction , which we have enough to strike at those targets which we have not yet been hitting. amy: putin's comment comes as the united states and the united kingdom are both preparing to send ukraine advance rocket launch systems. meanwhile, french president emmanuel macron has said -- "we must not humiliate russia so that the day when the fighting stops we can build an exit ramp through diplomatic means." ukraine's foreign minister criticized macron's comments saying such comments can only humiliate france and other countries that would call for it. we will have more on ukraine after headlines. in other news from the region, nato has begun a major naval exerci in the baltic sea wh sweden and finland both taking part. over the weekend, a u.s. warship moored in stockholm.

u.s. general mark milley, the chair of the joint chiefs of staff, met with swedish prime minister magdalena andersson aboard the ship. milley praised sweden and finld for applying to join nato, saying it will put russia in a difficult military position in the baltic sea. >> from a russian perspective, that would be very problematic militarily speaking. it would be very advantageous to nato. amy: "the new york times" has revealed shocking new details about the lead up to the january 6 insurrection. on january 5, the chief of staff of vice president mike pence warned the secret service that pence could face security threats because president donald trump was going to turn publicly against him over his refusal to overturn the election. pence's aide marc short conveyed the message to the vice president's lead secret service agent during a meeting in the west wing. on january 6, thousands of trump supporters stormed the capitol with some chanting, "hang mike pence." meanwhile, a federal grand jury

has indicted former trump advisor peter navarro for failing to comply with a subpoena from the house january 6 committee. the doj declined to charge two other former trump officials, mark meadows and dan scavino, jr. the january 6 committee will be holding its first public hearing on thursday night. 8:00 p.m. eastern time. democracynow.org will be livestream that hearing and we will have more on the january 6 probe later in the program. we will speak with a pulitzer prize-winning journalist will bunch. the united states suffered another deadly weekend of gun violence, with at least nine mass shootings involving four or more victims. in tennessee, two people were killed and 12 others wounded by gunfire outside a chattanooga nightclub early sunday morning. it was the city's second mass shooting in as many weekends. in philadelphia, three people were killed and 11 others wounded by gunfire saturday night when multiple gunmen opened fire on a large crowd.

so far, no arrests have been made. two handguns were retrieved at the crime scene, including one with an extended magazine. here in new york state, republican congressmember chris jacobs has abandoned his reelection campaign after he faced backlash from his constituents over his support for a ban on assault weapons. jacobs' district includes suburbs of buffalo, where last month white suemacist shooter killed 10 african-americans at a grocery store. on capitol hill, democratic senator chris murphy of connecticut says he's confident republicans will agree to bipartisan legislation to address gun violence. murphy is the top democrat in bipartisan talks on gun control legislation. he spoke sunday on cnn. >> i have never been part of negotiations as serious as these. there are more republicans at the table talking about changing our gun laws and investing in mental health than at any time since sandy hook.

amy: chris murphy represent sandy hook. a mother in uvalde, texas, who was handcuffed by police while trying to rescue her childn during the school shooting at robb elementary school says she was later thatened with charges if she spoke out about what happened. in an interview with cbs news, angeli rose gomez condemned the police response to the shooting that left 19 fourth graders and two teachers dead. >> they could have saved many more lives. they have gone into that classroom and maybe two or three would be gone but they could have saved more, the whole class. they could have done something. gone through the windows. something. but nothing was being done. if anything, they were being more aggressive on us parents that were willing to go in there. like i told the officers, i don't need your protection. i need you to go in there with me to protect my kids.

if anything, they were being more aggressive on as. amy: in other developments from uvalde, it now appears that the city's school district police chief pete arredondo did not have his police radio during the school shooting. arredondo was the incident commander who ordered officers to hold back from confronting the gunman. for almost an hour. in bangladesh at least 49 people have died and another 300 injured after a massive fire at a shipping container depot where manyhemicals we stored. the dead include at least nine firefighters. the fire began on saturday and was still smoldering 40 hours later. in nigeria, over 50 people are feared to have died after gunmen attacked a catholic church in ondo state in southeastern nigeria. many of the victims are believed to have been children. no one has taken responsibility for the attack. north korea carried out what is

believed to be its 18th missile test on sunday when it fired eight short-range ballistic missiles from four locations. the missile tests came a day after the united states ended a three-day naval drill with south korea in the philippine sea. earlier today, south korea and the united states responded by firing eight ballistic missiles into the sea. "the washington post" has revealed new details about how the u.s. has played a critical role in supporting the saudi-led war in yemen. he post" reports a substantial portion of all air raids conducted in the war were "carried out by jets developed, maintained and sold by u.s. companies, and by pilots who were trained by the u.s. military." the saudi-let air campaign alone has killed nearly 15,000 people in yemen, striking homes, hospitals, and other civiln targets. the u. support has continu under three presidents -- barack obama, donald trump, and joe biden. president biden has reportedly made a final decision to not

invite the governments of cuba, venezuela, and nicaragua to attend the summit of the americas, which opens in los angeles today. the move might lead to other latin american leaders boycotting the talks. mexican president andres manuel lopez obrador, as well as the leaders of guatemala, bolivia, and honduras, have threatened to skip the summit, which is taking place in the united states for the first time since 1994. cuban president miguel diaz-canel recently criticized biden's plan to exclude cuba and other nations. >> our america has changed. exclusions are no longer possible a decision to not invite everyone is a setback and all countries must be invited on equal tes. it is disrespectful and harmful to the sovereignty of nations to try to decide from the privileged condition of the host , those who represent them. in the space of a at exclusion and selectivity, it iurgent to strengthen the authentic

mechanisms of latin america and caribbean integration and coordination. amy: a spanish court has reportedly summoned former u.s. secretary of state mike pompeo to testify about a secret u.s. plot to kidnap or assassinate wikileaks founder julian assange. this according to a report in the spanish newspaper abc. the spanish court is probing the activity of uc global, a spanish security firm accused of spying on assange while he was living in the ecuadorian embassy in london where he had political asylum. the news comes as british home secretary priti patel is expected to decide soon whether assange should be extradited to the united states to face charges for publishing classified information about u.s. war crimes in iraq and afghanistan. former cia director gina haspel personally observed the torture of saudi prisoner abd al-rahim al-nashiri in 2002 when she oversaw a cia black site in thailand.

that's according to recent testimony to a guantanamo bay military court by cia psychologist james mitchell, who's been identified as an architect of the cia's torture program. mitchell testified that haspel watched as interrogators repeatedly slammed al-nashiri's head into a wall, forced him into a small confinement box, and subjected him to waterboarding by immobilizing him, placing a rag over his mouth, and pouring water over it. gina haspel is a cia veteran who served at the agency for 33 years before she became cia director under president trump. british prime minister boris johnson is facing a vote of no confidence today by his own conservative party after dozens of members of the tory party signaled they will seek his ouster. may 2020, johnson repeatedly attended parties held at 10 downing street in violation of

his own covid lockdown orders. in climate news, the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has reached its highest level in human history. the national oceanic and atmospheric administration says concentrations of carbon dioxide topped 420 parts per million in may. that's 50% higher than levels at the start of the industrial revolution. last year, humanity added more than 36 gigatons of carbon dioxide pollution to the atmosphere, a record one-year total. a retired wisconsin judge was shot to death in his own home on friday in a targeted attack by someone he once sentenced to jail. john roemer had served as a judge in the juneau county circuit court from 2004 until 2017. he was found dead on friday morning, zip tied to a chair. the gunman was found alive and

had the judges basement with the self-inflicted bullet wound. the gunman reportedly had a hit list that also included senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, wisconsin governor tony evers, and michigan governor gretchen whitmer. the republican-led house of representatives in ohio has approved a bill to ban transgender girls from school sports. under the bill, student athletes could be forced to have invasive genital inspections if anyone even questions their gender. the bill was approved on the first day of pride month with little debate after a republican lawmaker amended it to an unrelated piece of lislation. and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we begin today's show in ukraine, where russian missiles struck the capital kyiv for the first time in over a month on sunday. this came as russian and ukrainian forces continue to battle over control of the city of severodonetsk in eastern

ukraine. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy says russian forces now occupy roughly one-fifth of ukraine. on sunday, russian president vladimir putin warned western nations against supplying longer range missiles to ukraine. >> if the longer range missiles are going to be supplied, we will make certain conclusion to use our own means of destruction , which we have enough to strike at those targets which we have not yet been hidden. amy: putin's comment comes after the united states announced it approved a $700 million security assistance package for ukraine, including four high mobility artillery rocket systems. meanwhile, said -- "we must not humiliate russia so that the day when the fighting stops we can build an exit ramp through diplomatic means." that said by french president emmanuel macron.

ukraine's foreign minister criticized macron's comments saying -- "calls to avoid humiliation of russia can only humiliate france and every other country that would call for it." for more, we are joined by katrina vanden heuvel, publisher of nation magazine and columnist for "the washington post," where her latest piece is headlined "we need a real debate about the ukraine war." welcome, katrina. lay out your argument. >> i think what we have seen, amy, over these last years is that the corporate media has a one-sided debate -- you don't hear from informed, analytical scholars or writers who are not there to justify but to provide history and context about what we are witnessing today in their proxy war come of the war between ukraine and russia. there's a marginalization of

those forces and a preference for voices which are about how to escalate the war, how to cover the military -- not cover the history. i think walt whitman once said, when optical light, no one thinks very much, and that seems to be the frame of what we are witnessing. i think it is important there is not been intellectual no-fly zone, even while understanding how barbaric, how illegal the russian war against ukraine is. but this war is going to end and how it ends is a matter of discussion not being shown in any real way on our screens, in corporate media. i will say there have been a few cracks. may 19, "the new york times" had questions about your strategy. -- u.s. strategy. there have been a few articles in the last days which began to question concerns about an

unlimited war. you mentioned the united states, $70 million. there are $57 million has been given to ukraine in these last months and years. and the question of where that money is going and how that may escalate a protracted war between -- with the nuclear power i think is critical to race to understand and provide context for. amy: comments on -- macron's comments saying do not humiliate russia. the significance of this? also, putin saying if you send these advanced missile systems to ukraine, we are going to hit place as we haven't touched yet. >> we're into it more than 100 days. it is clear as zelenskyy said russia now controls maybe 20% of ukraine but russia seems to be

settling into the eastern part, severodonetsk, luhansk, donetsk republic. i think that is a measure of where easy parameters for a peace agreement. i want to say something which i think is quasi-subversive. negotiation is not appeasement. i think what is happening with thprovision of weapons may well be, some argue, ukraine needs more leverage to come to the negotiating table. that is an argument. but there are -- it is time now to really push for high-level diplomatic initiatives, which have happened. macron may be saying we should not humiliate putin might have been the wrong word, but what is interesting to me is there is all this talk of how unified the western alliance has been, how nato allies are so unified. in fact, what we are witnessing it seems to me, is a division between what donald rumsfeld

called old and new europe. new europe, baltics, eastern european countries, fearful having been occupied by the soviet union of russian aggression, witnessing ukraine, but france, germany -- not just the gas and oil, but a since they live on the same continent that there needs to be agreement and not a kind of centering or instability. it is lost here, but this war is going to end and what emerges, whether it is mutual security or constant insecurity and instability, again, with nuclear arms weapons, is i think a very fundamental issue and macron was right to raise this. amy: katrina, you have been studying russia in russia for decades. what sense do you have of the russian public and where they

stand right now, the significance of high-level officials differing from -- one even quitting over this -- and any pressure that you think is effective from within that is being placed on putin? >> so critical, amy, to talk about pressure from within the russian opposition. the russian government has worked hard to chill, to repress the protest that first erupted after the ukrainian war. many russians have relatives in ukraine, family. i think there was a shock in the first instance. there has been a rallying to the russian government, partly because of the propaganda state television portraying now that it is a proxy war. it is easier for russians to fix on fighting nato, the u.s., then ukrain i have a friend outside of moscow who says she feels doubly

shamed. she is shamed by her government, but also shamed by the united states nato stigmatizing. it seems demonizing of all russians, not understanding those who oppose this war there also what we saw during the afghan war when the soviet union was involved. mothers, those who are angry and horrifd by the body bags that are coming back to moscow in the fresh grave sites. so that is a factor in the russians have been very careful to keep numbers low even though they are thousands of month and zelenskyy noted a few days ago that ukraine is losing 50 to 80 men a day which in comparative terms, is more than the united states lost at the highest point of vietnam in 1968. i will note my longtime friend, the editor of the independent newspaper who received --

co-receive the nobel peace prize in december, has just auctioned his nobel or announced he will and contribute the money, which he thinks ivy $100 million, to ukrainian refugees. the newspaper continues to operate in the baltics as to a number of other newspapers, independent papers, critical of the putin government. amy: what do youake of who stands where in the u.s. senate? you have the arch -- well, libertarian conservative anti-civil rights leader rand paul, the republican kentucky senator who is an enemy of the other kentucky senator, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, holding up a vote of weapons sales saying, where is the oversight? we need an ombudsman. finally, he caved on that.

but you have the republicans were pressing against these weapons sales and the democrats and much of the outside fox media, cnn, msnbc, all pushing forward. and when weapons has are not happening come asking why not? >> amy, our politics have been scrambled when it comes to u.s.-russian relations for the last 5, 6 years. there is something that has emerged which i think is a very important development in u.s. politics, foreign policy, which i would call the restraint caucus. this is the quincy institute headed by andrew bacevich, treat a person, and it will even an atol lieven who believe not in i shall isolate some but a different way to engage with diplomacy, should restraint, and with an understanding that

america is stronger if it is not policing the world and if it is not triumphalist. sadly, i think on this issue particularly on russia, the progressive community is not at this moment offering saying negotiations, let's open a space for it. but focusing more on russia as a kind of demon and should be not in the civilized network of nations and more weapons, more weapons. i think it is important not to attribute this restraint caucus solely to the rand pauls and josh hawleys. i think it is broader and more representative of this country. as you know, those in this country's voices are not always heard inside washington. one thing that is fundamentally changed since we last spoke in the last week's is of course what is the strategic focus of the u.s. involvement in ukraine?

is it from the original concept to disband ukraine as a sovereign independent -- defendant ukraine is a sovereign independent country or as general austin said, to degrade, weekend, russia or as president biden said, putin should not be in power? that is a very different framework, comparable to the old debate between george kent's containment, which was later changed and focus to roll back the idea that has dominated this country's foreign policy. i thinkt is important to understand there are negotiations that have been heard in the last months. there was one in his temple between -- istanbul between the russians and ukrainians. the financial times reported in march there was a 15 point plan that have been put on the table. it is easy to start a war than to end a war. survey show the longer this war

goes on, the much more difficult it is to end it. and our weans, which many argue is critical to defend ukraine from russia, but they do lead to a more protracted war with all the ancillary nuclear problems, threats, perils and others. so i think it is pivotal inflecon point, and i think people need to take a step -- you mentned the senate. we are facing the term elections in november. inflation, jobs. these are what lead list. and i think for many presidents, including biden and trump and obama, there was an understanding years ago that ukraine was not a national security interest in the united states. obama did not -- it was before

the russian aggression. i think that is worth thinking about, how vital is ukraine's security, yes, but not a commitment of extraordinary proportions. i will end by saying i think zelenskyy is an extraordinary figure, has talked about $5 billion to $7 billion a month needed to keep ukraine aloft, alive, and surviving. and that money -- the money is going to be needed for reconstruction of this ravaged countries, for those displaced, for food, for all the issues we have talked about as extending from this war, which has had global impact. amy: we are talking about, if this is a proxy war, major nuclear countries. the united states versus russia. what about that? >> what is interesting, polls show americans are thinking about the nuclear threat.

now, one thing that is of great concern, amy, i've heard there are no working groups, no groups talking in lower levels, u.s., russian, about the nuclear issues -- which are crical. we don't have nuclear arms infrastructure at the moment, amy. it has been shredded since 2002. very weak, extended to 2025, 26. at all these other treaties are just torn apart. the nuclear issue is terrified. this is more dangerous than the cuban missile crisis, which many don't remember, but it is protracted. the longer this goes on, the more accidental incident of miscalculation could occur, which is why to some extent, by the way, these missiles being sent from the united states reach only 40 miles because there is a terror they might going to russia and escalate as putin has threatened.

i will say june 12, 1982, marking the 40th anniversary this june 12, of one million people in central park to oppose the nuclear expansion at that time of reagan and gorbachev. i think people -- maybe this will focus people on the need for freeze, for build down, for understanding the peril of nuclear weapons while we lived with so many other dangers, this is really horrifying that it has been raised as a possibility in this protracted -- let us say this proxy war, which is leading to a possible global war and its implications for the change from political military architecture. amy: i know i said finally, but this is really finally. why do you think could break the

establishment consensus with the media very much a part of that, even pushing biden to go further to sell more weapons at this point, to allow in those other voices? >> that is the question of our time, isn't it? i think to listen to the people -- i mean that because i think people care about being a good force in the world, but are not up for this policing, this triumphantism. it will take those who understand the need to demilitarize --at the beginning of the pandemic, there was a sense of return to a foreign policy called common security. this was also gorbachev. an understanding there are human security needs to fight the pandemic, to fight global inequality, to fight food

shortages. of course, the existential crisis of climate change, which, by the way, and a $50 million that has been put through to ukraine, that is far more than we have been spending to tackle the climate crisis. i do think there is a way of framing our security needs that could open up minds. i think this idea talked about a restraint. he needs to be more broadly understood. i think it is much more in the american tradition then what we see from the neocons or than your liberal interventionalists that dominated inside washington. i do think biden is under terrible pressure and it is a pressure -- i said in my column that it begins in the center right and extends to the right right. so you need the pressure from these forces. they are there, but he hasn't opened up his administration or let them in or listened to them. but if you had a more open media

and more open minded administration, these people are young but their recycling the oldest and worst ideas in our foreign policy. amy: katrina vanden heuvel -- >> we haven't even talked about china and in the context that they were supposed to move on to china but they're doing so in a way to challenge and free china is a terrible threat. these countries are not to be admired in many ways, but they are needed not as friends but partners in dealing with some of the grave issues of our time. that is a realism. what hopes a realistic approach because there are a lot of people putting her head the sand and thinking we're going to have double wars, russia and china. this is not a way to build a world. amy: katrina vanden heuvel is publisher of nation magazine. we willing to your piece "we

need a real debate about the ukraine war." insurrection holds its first hearing on thursday. we will be livestreaming at 8:00 eastern standard time. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break]

amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. after 10 months of meeting in private, the house committee investigating the deadly january 6 attack on the capitol will hold its first public hearing thursday, prime time, 8:00 p.m. eastern. we will livestream at democracynow.org. it will be the first of eight congressional hearings, modeled in part on the 1973 watergate hearings. the session is expected to feature video clips from january

six bang -- when trump january 6 supporters stormed the capitol after then president donald trump's called on them to "fight like hell" to stop congress's certification of joe biden as president. the hearings will also draw on some of the committee's roughly 1000 depositions and interviews. many of them, videotaped. congressmember liz cheney is vice chair of the committee and one of just two republicans on it. she spoke to cbs news. >> the threat, and it is an ongoing threat. we are not at a situation where former president trump has expressed any sense of remorse about what happened. we're in a situation where he continues to use even more extreme language, frankly, the language in these attacks. people must pay attention. people must watch and they must understand how easily our democratic system can unravel if

we don't defend it. amy: this comes as "the new york times" reported friday that the chief of staff for then-vice president pence warned the secret svice theay befor januy 6 thathere cou be a reat to nce. pee's aid conveyed the message to the vice president's lead secret service agent during a meeting in the west wing. when thousands of trump supporters stormed the capital the next day on january 6, some were chanting "hang mike pence." a federal grand jury has indicted former trump adviser peter navarro for failing to comply with a subpoena from the house january 6 committee. this is navarro. for on developments related to the january 6, we are joined by will bunch, pulitzer prize-winning journalist and national columnist for "the philadelphia inquirer," who has been following this closely,

including pennsylvania state senator doug mastriano, who attended the january 6 "stop the steal" rally and also helped arrange buses for pro-trump protesters to come as well. he later worked with former president trump's legal team to overturn the 2020 election results and has now won the republican governor's primary in pennsylvania. if elected, he has vowed to continue to help undo the 2020 election. and he is in charge, right? will bunch, welcome back to democracy now! let's talk the significance of these hearings and what you think needs to happen thursday to draw the attention of the american people. it has happened behind closed doors. most people don't have any idea, givenoth has been at least 1000 interviews conducted. >> this has been such a long time coming. it has been a ar and a half since januy 6. i think the question now, so much has happened since tn, the war in ukraine, people are

concerned about the economy, inflation. it will be fascinating to see the televised hearings get the american people interestedn the sty because i tnk the go of the house committee, and a very important goal, to make people understand the seriousnesof what happened on januy 6 and there was an attempted coup in united states of ameca that was orchestrated by the sitting president of the united states, a self coup to try and keep himself in power and try and thwart the peaceful transfer of power to the biden administration. i think the real significance here is can the committee tell a compelling story that will keep people interested and appeal to the public? we know 30% to 40% of the public is hard-core,

devout, buy the fox these are rigged hearings but can they persuade people in the middle that this wasn't just a one-off event, this is part of an ongoing threat to democracy? first of all, build a case for punishing that january 6 perpetrators? i think there is a real interplay between these hearings and what is happening at the justice department with merrick garland about whether to prosecute trump's inner circle and prosecute trump's himself for their involvement in this coup attempt. many of us like an open and shut case. i think they're waing to see ifhe public support happens. i think these hearis are critical to building that. i think that is the broader significance. i think you will see hopefully some new pieces of news about january 6 we haven't heard before but i think also they

will try and create a coherent narrative for the public so the public can really see how serious this was and what a threat to democracy it is. and hopefully, as he touches on talking about doug mastriano running for governor in pennsylvania, also connected to the ongoing threat to democracy that exists in the 2022 elections and the 2024 and beyond. amy: let's go there for a minute to pennsylvania where you are. the significance of mastriano winning? this is not just a person who attended the january 6 insurrection, he facilitated many getting buses to the people -- so the people could go down. talk about what he himself represents and if you were governor, the man who is continuing to challenge the 2020 elections being in charge of the elections. >> well, in addition to being there january 6 -- i think he rented three buses to send a

bunch of supporters down, very involved -- but beyond that he was a state legislator. he supported a resolution at would have allowed the legislature to appoint pennsylvaniaelectors, basically come to override the polar vote in t will of the people and get the legislature power to presumably appoint a slate of tru electors based on his supposed fraud that did not happen. now if elected gernor in november -- remember, a lot are predicting because of inflation and other things this could be an election for republicans. if mastriano wins d becomes governor, he has the power to appoint the cretary of state who oversees the elections. it is in elected job in ny states, but not in pennsylvania.

kind of a rubberstamp confirmation by the republican-dominated legislature. he has made it clear he is going to appoint secretary of state who supports his theories who presumably would get involved in this crackpot theory. i wrote about it last week in a column. certify biden's victory to " reclaim" electors from the 2020 electoral college, somehow transmit to congress that biden should leave the white house immediately and install donald trump of stuff that isn't going to happen. it would not last 30 seconds inside a courtroom am sure. wasting pennsylvania's time on this effort. a victim flits on the 2024 -- a big influence on the 2024 election. taking why dropbox is an mail-in

voting and that sort of thing. we know he subscribes to the theory control over the electoral college, democratic victory in 2024 and appoint electors for the republican candidate. people say democracy is on the ballot in the 2022 gubernatorial election in pennsylvania, they are not kiddg. it really is life or death for democracy. amy: you have a quick comment on what is now shaved up to be this senatoal race? you have john fetterman, lieutenant governor, who had a heart attack, was in the hospital on primary day, heart patient versus the heart surgeon dr. oz has just been declared the winner of the republican senatorial primary? >> that is a fascinating twist. the reity, thoug both minute

awes -- dr. oz and see mormick my both have been living outside pennsylvania for years, which hurts a lot of voters here understandably. both of them were people who basically made up new clinical personas tappeal to the donald trump repuican party both wereonservatives o just adopted extremeositions on abortion and other issues to appeal to the ultra meg right. it almost didn't matter which one won. oz is maybe more of threat beuse he is very charismatic. i think he has a slight edge. what i want to see about federman, seems like he's gone on to a full recovery. the fact he ignored his ctor

for five years is not a good look. i hope he comes out on a psa for heart health and say, looki made a mistake, don't what i did melissa do your d full sp -- anlisten tyour docr. otheise, i thinkederma connec with vers, a mority ofennsylvaans who ant to see aboion rits prerved is gog to be tight race. amy: finally, we're speaking to you in philadelphia. this has been a hard weekend at mass shootings. i think nine across the country. in philadelphia, three people killed, 11 others wounded by gunfire saturday night when multiple gunmen opened fire on a large crowd. i wanted to go back to doug

mastriano, the gubernatorial candidate. the jewish publication the forward resurfaced a 2018 video of mastriano likening gun control to nazism. >> right. amy: let me play that clip. we are going to go to that clip. >> the second a mimic codifies our god-given rights to keep and bear arms. it is appalling to me, anytime a shooting, jump on that as a way to advance an agenda to roof our right to bear arms. what other right will they suspend? we saw a historian with the doctrine and history, to the same thing in russia, hitler's do the same thing in germany. where do the tyrants stop infringing upon our rights? whose great idea was it to have a gun-free in school?

amy: in response, mastriano tweeted, "historically, this is accurate." as we wrap up, will bunch, can you discuss this? philadelphia is very important, where the shooting took place this weend. >> imagine the french quarter or fishman's work, talking about that type of popular aa. we had way too many homicides in philadphia for months and months. the ooting hit home and the thing is, the governor's race is important here because harrisburg has prevented philadelphia from imposing common sense gun laws. the republican legislature successfully has overridden philadelphia's ability to write its own gun laws. mastrian, as you just heard, has taken the most extreme position on gun rights. he wants to make pennsylvania

what he calls a second amendment satuary state. at we saw saturday is what that looks like, unfortunately. amy: i want to thank you, will bunch, for joining us. will bunch is a pulitzer prize-winning journalist and national columnist for "the philadelphia inquirer." we will link to your columns. next up, we will speak to the head of the california task force calling for reparations for african americans. back in 30 seconds. ♪♪ [music break]

amy: this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we turned out to california, the first state to establish a reparations task force for black americans has just released at landmark report detailing the suffering descendants of enslaved people long after slavery was abolished. it also focuses on repair going forward, areas like political disenfranchisement, housing, education, criminal justice. the task force gathered testimony from experts. this is susan burton formerly , a incarcerated advocate and the founder of a new way of life, testifying about how her

five-year-old son was hit and killed by a police car. she said police never acknowledged what they had done. she said she started to us alcohol and drugs to cope with her overwhelming grief. for the next 15 years, burton was arrested over six times. >> i was a grieving mother. i need help, not punishment. i learned the justice system responded differently to black people, black women. i saw people, no, get community service and deferred to treatment and what have you, but that did not happen in south l.a.. i started a new way of life, reentry project, one year after leaving treatment. vision was to build a home in south l.a. that could help women like me transition out of prisons and jails and have the space to heal and field power and opportunity. amy: for more, we're joined by

kamilah moore, chairperson of the california reparations task force. thank you so much for being with us. this is a massive report, like 500 pages. can you talk about the significance of it and it coming out in california? >> yes, absolutely. thank you for having me. to the significance of the report, this 500 page report is the most extensive report cataloging the atrocities against thafrican-amican community, in particular, since the carter commission on civil unrest which we know his commission by president lyndon b. johnson in 1968. not only is this report 500 pages, 13 chapters long, each chapter thes a state breakdown that talks about californi's specific role in perpetuating atrocities against the african-american community's arting with enslavement but

there's also an nation o federal right down and each chapter that demonstrates the federal government's respsibility for perpetuating harms against the afrin-american community. the conclusion of the report is reparations are due tohe afrin-american or american community particular on a local, state, and federal level. amy: people may be surprised when they hear you talk about slavery in california. talk about california's history with slavery. ayou pointed out in the introduction, we have been hang a series of virtual public hearings because of the pandemic. early on in this process in september -- amy: she just froze. kamilah moore is an attorney and chairperson of the california reparations task force. i was just asking her about california being a free state where there wasn't slavery, but

the question of what is the involvement of california in slavery. let me go to white house press secretary karine jean-pierre being asked about reparations last week. >> question two about california on reparations. would use it to guide executive action? >> his stance on repations and supporting the study has not changed. i've not seen the california report, but his personal -- his stance, policy stance has not changed on reparations. amy: that is the white house press secretary karine jean-pierre being asked about reparations last week. we are joined by kamilah moore, attorney and chairperson of the california reparations task force. talking about the significance of this 500 page report. there is one to be another

report that comes out next year that recommends exactly what to do, but this focuses on many different areas of life when it comes to reparations. just to read aquote from the report, it says, "along with a dereliction of its duty to protect its black citizens, direct federal, state, and local government actions continue to enforce the racist lies created to justify slavery. these laws and government supported cultural beliefs that since formed the foundation of innumerable modern laws, policies, and practices across the nation." we have you back, kamilah moore. i was just reading from your report. talk about the fugitive slave laws. >> right. so the fugitive slaves act was implement a the california state legislature in 1852 an the

implications of that were you were a free black person living in california under the fugitive slave act, you could be deported to be re-enslaved in the south or in some instances on california soil. amy: so talk about where you go from here. you're going to have this series of reports, of the next one next your. what do reparations look like? >> that is a great question and that is where the task fce is going next. this past year, i've characterized as a study phase where we have listened to personal and expert testimony, public comment, and we have catalogued all of what we have learned over the past year in this historic 500 page report and with also contain limiter recommendations. at the next and final year of our task force efforts is really dedicated to the development

stage or we're having intentional conversions as an i never task force about, ok, given what we have learned and the evidence we have collected, what does reparations look like? i will say our final conference of plan, which will be -- operates a plan which will be due xm a, those recommendations must report with human international standards. amy: talk about the record, the precedent setting nature of this report and the entire country, not just california. >> as so goes california, so goes the nation. that is for many different progressive issues that have originated in california. reparations for african americans are one of those aggressive ideas that we hope sets a precedent not only for other stes, but for the federal government because reparations for the african-american community for

the institution of slavery is first and foremost a federal responsibility. that is why we have in our preliminary recommendations to transmit this historic report to the biden administration, which they have acknowledged the day was release in hopes they create a commission on a federal level for african americans are american free specifically. amy: kamilah moore, thank you for being with us, attorney, chairperson of california reparations task force. we will link to your 500-page precedent-setting reparations report. that does it for our show. again, on thursday, democracy now! will be livestreaming this historic january 6 insurrection hearing. the house committee, the first of the series of hearings will be livestreaming at 8:00 eastern standard time at democracynow.org. democracy now! is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning.

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