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barcelona. ♪ >> this is al jazeera, these are the top stories. mourners and members of the press have been gathering outside the house of japan's former prime minister, shinzo abe, who was killed on friday. these are live pictures from tokyo. he was shot during a campaign speech in the southwestern city. he was the country's longest-serving leader. tributes are pouring in from world leaders. joe biden describe that he was a man of peace. u.s. president joe biden ordered flags to be fled at half-staff
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in honor of shinzo abe. he signed a condolence for the ambassador's residence. he described him. 41-year-old attacker is a former navy officer and said he held a grudge against an organization that he believed may have links to it. russia has vetoed a resolution at the un security council that stortz -- sorts to extend a delivery system in the northwestern region. they are closing the corridor and say the border crossing could be catastrophic. the u.s. president has signed an executive order to help protect women's access to abortion and contraception. joe biden criticized what he called an out-of-control supreme court, which easily overturned roe v. wade, a landmark ruling that guaranteed the constitutional right to an abortion across the u.s. he said the fastest way to restore abortion rights was to pass a federal law through congress.
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boris johnson has resigned as uk prime minister, but many are calling for him to leave immediately. johnson says he will stay on at 10 downing street until a new leader of the conservative party is elected. this has set the stage for fresh leadership in the u.k. >> mourners on al jazeera after inside story. ♪ >> a steering attack on a prison test nigeria security. they claim the ambush in which hundreds of prisoners are free.
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does nigeria have the resources and capabilities to curb violence while en route without assistance? this is inside story. ♪ hello and welcome to the program. a brazen attack on the maximum-security prison outside nigeria's capital has laid. the persistent struggles with insecurity. isil has claimed responsibility for tuesday's jailbreak that freed more than 800 inmates. about 400 prisoners are on the run. among them, several commanders, two armed groups that have been responsible for a series of attacks across nigeria. that's left people in the surrounding community and in the nearby cabinet afraid for their safety. it's raising more doubts about
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the government's capacity to deal with spiraling insecurity. here is the report. >> authorities say the operation to rearrest the escaped convict is yielding results, but about iso that has shocked many nigerians. >> a sizable number. >> the statement is causing panic because security assessment show urban areas have become targets for armed crews. quakes there could be something bigger coming. they can't attack with a must. >> more than 870 inmates escaped with thousands of gunmen armed
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with explosives, rockets and gun storm the prison. hundreds have been rearrested. >> nigeria's most senior general announced a major attack on the capital had been thwarted only for them to launch this. it adds to security threats such as kidnappings and robberies, which have been on the rise. with dozens of fighters, including with the main four maker now on the loose, people are asking for security forces to step down. the assault is not the first. many of the detention centers have been targeted in the past five years, resulting in hundreds of hardened criminals going free. security analysis are worried that the attack may not be the last. >> this prison attack is the latest in a string of operations claimed by them. in 2014 they made headlines when it kidnapped more than 200 girls
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from the school. around 100 of them are still missing. in 2017, fighters from the group ambushed and killed nearly 50 employees. nigeria's national oil country in the lake chad region. they both have targeted the nigerian military. they have claimed responsibility for attacks that killed dozens of soldiers since 2015. in april, they bombed a market, reportedly sending alcohol in the northeastern state, killing at least 30 people. ♪ let's bring in our guest. senator for cell nigeria. the founder of a nonprofit organization focusing on advocacy for financial literacy and the increased participation of women and youth in politics. from london, a senior fellow on sub-saharan africa of the tony
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blair institute. thank you very much for being with us. i'm going to start with you. this attack has been claimed by them, and local media are saying it's a responsibility of -- for those of us who don't favor the complexity of the situation in nigeria, can you briefly describe how these groups are playing out, and what the intricacies are? >> the group that claimed responsibility is -- and there is no contradiction between that group naming responsibility and the local media saying them. it's one of the three factions of them. it is a group that was formed in 2003 and went to war with the nigerian government in 2009. since then, it has killed directly 35,000 people, at least 35,000 people directly, and about 350,000 people indirectly
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through the poverty and humanitarian crisis that it created by displacing 3.5 million people across the lake chad region. this group that started as them initially splintered twice, in 2012 they splintered, and a new group formed, which is now affiliated to al qaeda. in 2016 it splintered again, and one group called islamic stead west african province was by isis. they pledged allegiance to isis in 2015, but the group break into 2016 and one was organized by them, and that is the group that is today called the islamic stead west african province. so there is no contradiction, there are currently three different factions operating in the northeast, north-central and
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the northwestern part of nigeria. they are the one that is traditionally named this. quakes why do you think this attack happened now? >> the reason why this attack happened now and the other attacks we have seen is because of a lack of effective dealing with this whole insecurity. terrorists are becoming more emboldened, they are doing things and getting away with it. in march of this year a train was attack and when they were abducted, they may demands for some of their people, the ones -- they wanted a prisoner swap. that did not happen. they are coming out to attack the prison and free the members.
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there have been a series of attacks when nothing is done by the nigerian state, so the terrorist are becoming more and more emboldened. let's not forget that while the attack was going on at the same time we got the report of -- there was also an attack on the protocol security team. in december 2020, there was obstruction of students, and that happened the same day that the president had gone into there. yet, the terrorist did not stop the planned attack, they went ahead to attack that state and walk away. it was intercepted. at the end of the day, the
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students were back bay centuries. why the commander of chief was disposed in the same state. it says that they have no regard for our security agency, they said they cannot do anything. they actually think they are getting away with it. >> the fighting has been going on for years, why has the government not seemed able to be able to get a grip on this? >> actually, there are so many reasons, and i want to say that i appreciate the rundown because that is exactly the historical perspective of the events that took place. but this is a problem that is not conventional. the insurgency is virtually something new and has taken the men by surprise. even though it took a long time,
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it started in 2000 nine and now we have not been able to completely deal with the situation. the reason is basically because you are fighting more or less, a known enemy that can dissolve into this. so this is a different problem entirely, or war that the nigerian government is facing. and i would say not so much attention has been really paid to the problem in getting it completely solved. in this sense that whenever there is a kind of success reported or they are able to redo the instances, then the government seems to be reluctant. and then when the incidents
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happen like in the last 100 days, what happened on the train . but these criminals do these things and get away with it. now, nobody has been brought -- >> sorry for interrupting you, there was one thing i did want to put you, there has been a growing suggestion, certainly amongst the media and nigeria, that one of the reason that groups are so successful in doing this is that either the government's and the military and the intelligence services are so aware that this problem is so large, that they simply can't cope with it and choose not to do something about it. or, there's an allegation of people within the government or within the security services who are in some way complicit with the armed groups.
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what's your reaction to the allegations that this could be happening simply because either people are turning a blind eye, or people actually sympathize with those in the security service or the government? >> i don't think i will agree with them. but what i'm trying -- what i believe is happening is that, one, the government -- or the army, or security is not used to this kind of problem. so they cannot find easy solutions. it's not like conventional war. it is not clearly defined as guerrilla war. i will agree that this prolonged fight against insurgency may be beneficial to some people, and they really don't want it to end quickly. otherwise, i don't understand why, if an incident happened and then the government cannot hold
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some people responsible and get them within social time, there must be timelines in this operation. they have been saying that. all the security chiefs, ask them to solve the problem with a specified time. and if there's anything they need, let them tell the government and the government should provide those resources and materials for them. >> forgive me, i want to bring in our other guests because the point that was made there, certainly the first one was that the military has not seen this kind of action before. given the fact that this has been going on for about 10 years, is there actually a reasonable argument that the military and security forces have learned to adapt to what is happened in their country after such a long time? >> no, you are completely right. the military would be right to say we did not know how to fight
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them in the first 2, 3 years of the crisis, but we are in the 12th or the 13th year today, and it started in 2009, therefore, whichever military is serious should have strategized and come up and developed a plan to tackle the crisis. and so, i completely do not agree with the fact -- with the idea that the military is still getting used to the crisis, which has been going on for 13 years, but one thing i agree within the senator's argument is that this is a guerrilla group. guerrilla groups are always difficult to defeat because you are anxious to defeat them. their aim is to create enough stability and get enough media attention. that is how terrorism works. in the government has been throwing a lot of money at the problem. the key problem for me is lack
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of coordination and synergy amongst security agents in nigeria. nigeria has law enforcement and intelligence agencies, but each of them is operating in silence. none are cooperating and coordinating together. and because they are pursuing different -- i mean, because they are not cooperating in some see others as rivals, these groups are exploiting what is being created in this policy, in this landscape. unfortunately, the federal government, the office of the president and national security advisor, have failed in bringing security agent so that they can work together. the second thing is that governments are also not united. they each pursue their own policy, and some of the policies are sometime inconsistent and
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contradictory in some cases, and the only person benefiting from the new consistency in contradiction, a lack of synergy, is the terrorist. therefore, what you need is a complete overhaul, complete view of security infrastructure in a way that would bring all this in law enforcement and intelligence agencies together so they can work together through their resources, learn from each other and defeat this group. >> if i understand you correctly, one of the other bridesmaid was the fact that that this, in some way, is benefiting other people because the fight has been going on for so long. how concerning is it that there might be some people who are benefiting from this who are not necessarily within the groups themselves, might be outside that? >> it's very concerning. there is a lot of corruption
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going on, it has been going on for a long time. we have situations whereby soldiers have told the president that there is a lot of sabotage and corruption in the attachments are not being paid, the kind of behave minutes we are getting. they should be gutted, and there are people who are sort of benefiting from it. i get the example. the former chief of army staff was reported to have houses worth millions of dollars in dubai. he was the procurement officer of his administration before this particular administration, and then he became the chief of army staff. he had snake pants, and so that went away. there have been a lot of allegations of corruptions amongst generals with the kind of properties and the fact that they are not giving their all to
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this war. the general had spoken out and had made demands for the right thing to be done are being demoted. there are people who are benefiting, whether it's directly or indirectly. but at the end of the day, say are the best of the president and commander-in-chief. there is no strategy. this war is not a new war. the war has changed. even though there's an insecurity, they were in other parts of the world. and the thing to do is to learn what has happened in other places. ask the question today, if there is an ordinary citizen who has information in nigeria right now about the escaped inmates, where
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are you going to -- who do you call? there is nothing like that. the intelligence doesn't seem to work. the nature 80 -- the nigerians intelligence agents have information when it come to terrorists -- sorry, they have information when it comes to protesters but never information when it comes to terrorists. these are some of the things that people are really worried about. about the fact that we are not able of winning this war. they are becoming more emboldened every day and that's not the way it should be. >> we had a report earlier from our correspondent and in that report, some of them, he was talking to a few people on the streets and they said they were very concerned that something bigger was coming. how worried are you, given the attack that you have seen in
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other attacks, how worried are you that this is just a prelude to something even larger? >> i am very concerned and all nigerians are very concerned. that capital is supposed to be one of the safest places you can leave. but with this developing now, almost everybody is scared, and it's very, very embarrassing. there was not enough security around it, there was no lightning, there was no cctv cameras, the personnel there are not wrestling, so the insurgents was maybe a large number and they carried out the action and went away with it.
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so if it's up to now and there's not information, then everybody has a reason to be worried and scared. >> tell me about how this decade or so of violence in nigeria has been affecting communities, particularly families in the infrastructure, health services and so on. >> it's been very, very devastating and it has been more so in these areas where people are farmers, people have been killed, people have been displaced. most of the farmers that we have in nigeria in the areas, most of them right now are -- so this affects the country. there have been a lot of killings, people have been killed and people are still being killed. you don't know who the victim is going to be, and we slip not knowing when we will have the
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next big thing. it seems there is nothing. for example, the attack that happened was supposed to be -- sorry, it's supposed to be the safest part of nigeria, and people keep coming to the region and that safety has been broken. if you look at it now, the terrorists -- it's been reported that it came in large numbers. they came in large numbers and they did not fly in. so what has happened outside the attack? we don't even see anything that teams -- seems to tell us that they are going after the terrorists and also trying to get the prisoners back and get the terrorists. we didn't see helicopters going up. t■he movement onland has been deployed, able -- air surveillance.
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it was said that that particular day it was locked down. it was only a few hours ago that it is brought up and we are asking, where are the images of the people? if they identify or would be able to call. so it's really been so devastating and a lot of people have lost their likelihood, in life in nigeria is really sad. this is not where we are supposed to be. the role of government is the protection of life and property in any government that protects the life of citizens won't be caught. that's where we are right now. they will amp themselves up. >> i want to bring him interrupt
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things up for the program. given the fact that it seems that the infrastructure for the miller. -- military is not available, what is the answer to help for the military to start to turn the tide against this? >> there are several things the nigerian military, as well as the federal government should do. i would just mention a few of them. the first thing is for a proper comprehensive, clear plan and policy on how to confront the situation. and what you need to do is plan it clearly, that of the stud government and those of the community. all hands would have to be in deck. now that security and law enforcement agencies are working inside, you will never succeed in this war. the second issue is to flush out
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corruption. there is a lot of money that has not been accounted for. the national security advisor himself has said publicly that billions have gone missing, and there is no accountability. this attack has happened and i can assure you no one can be held responsible. and this is some of the things we have seen in nigeria in the last two years. >> i'm terribly sorry, i have to interrupt you because i'm afraid time is against us, but i do appreciate you joining us. i want to say thank you to all of our guests. i thank you to you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, al jazeera.com. go to our facebook page, you can also join the conversation on twitter, the handle is at ajay
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