07/20/22 07/20/22 [captioning made possible by democracy now!] amy: from new york, this is democracy now! >> bob's and demagogues will put us on a path to political tyranny, lincoln said. as we will see today, this very old problem of has returned with new ferocity today is a president o lost election deployed a mobhich included dangerous extremists attack the constitutional system of

election and the peaceful transfer of power. amy: ahead of the committee to investigate the january 6 attack on the united states capitol, we will speak with committee member congressmember jamie raskin and get it update on how the secret service has only provided a single text exchange from the insurrection and may have purged all texts after oversight officials requested them. we will also speak to the maryland democratic about the winner of the gubernatorial primary in his state. he helped organize buses to the insurrection on january 6. and we will speak with congressmember pramila jayapal, chair of the congressional progressive caucus of after a man was arrested on suspicion of hate crime after neighbors said he allegedly pointed a gun at her home and threatened to kill her. >> she's a public figure and

someone is out here screaming and yelling and cursing, "kill you" and "go back to where you came from" and those kinds of things and walking onto her property. not ok. amy: now that the man has been released, we will get an update from pramila jayapal, the first indian-american congresswoman. we will ask her about her hopes for an assault weapons ban what is next for post roe america. she herself has testified about having an abortion. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. temperatures in britain topped 104 degrees fahrenheit for the first time ever on tuesday as a climate change fueled heatwave scorched much of europe. the bbc reports the london fire brigade had its busiest day since world war ii as fires broke out across london in the record heat. at one point, firefighters were battling 12 blazes

simultaneously. major wildfires in england, france, germany, portugal, and spain have burned thousands of acres in recent days. in portugal, authorities say the heat wave has killed at least 1000 people. hundreds more from died in spain. on tuesday, the head of the world meteorological organization warned the climate crisis will only intensify extreme heat waves. >> in the future from these kind of heatwaves are going to be normal and we will see even more extremes. so much carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that it will continue for the coming decades. so far we have not been able -- globally. amy: here in the united states, president biden is traveling to massachusetts today to give a major address on the climate crisis.

climate activists had been hoping biden would declare a climate emergency, but the associated press said the president will not take that step today which would have granted him additional pows to address the crisis. biden will be speaking in the massachusetts town of somerset at a former coal plant that's being turned into a wind-energy plant. voters went to the polls tuesday for a primary election in maryland. the trump-backed far right state legislator dan cox won the republican gubernatorial primary. last year, cox helped organize buses to washington on january six bang when he called vice president trans a -- pence a traitor for not supporting trump's efforts to overturn the election. if elected, cox has vowed to conduct of a forensic audit of the 2020 election. he also wants to ban abortion in maryland and end what he describes as "sexual indoctrination" in schools. the democratic govnors association spent over $1 million helping elevate cox's message as part of an effort to

help therimary campaigns of far-right candidates that democrats hope will be more vulnerable in the november general election. the democratic gubernatorial primary remains too close to call. in another closely watched race in maryland, the corporate attorney glenn ivey has defeated former congressmember donna edwards in the democratic primary for an open seat in maryland's 4th congressional district. a new super pac run by aipac, the american israel public affairs committee, spent nearly $6 million on the race to defeat edwards. ivey outspent edwards 7 to 1. see our segment on that race, go to democracynow.org. cnn is reporting the u.s. secret service has onlyrovided single text exchange to the department of homeland security inspector general after request for the agency to hand over all text messages from 24 individuals around the time of the january 6 insurrection.

secret service is claiming all the messages have been purged. the dhs inspector general set in a letter to lawmakers that the erasure took place shortly after oversight officials requested electronic communications from the agency be preserved. meanwhile, prosecutors in georgia have revealed they may bring criminal charges against 16 republicans who acted as fake electors as part of donald trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election. while joe biden won more votes in georgia, the fake electors submitted false certifications to the national archives claiming trump had won the state. similar efforts were done in six other states where trump lost -- arizona, michigan, nevada, new mexico, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. republicans facing possible prosecution in georgia include state senator burt jones who is governor brian kemp's running mate for lieutenant governor and

david shafer, the chair of the georgia republican party. in news from capitol hill, the house has passed a bill to protect the right to same-sex and interracial marriage. every democrat and 47 republicans supported the respect for marriage act. it remains uncertain if democrats have enough votes to pass the legislation in the senate. the house vote comes as concern is growing that conservatives -- the supreme court will move to overturn its 2015 decision legalizing same-sex marriage across the country. on saturday, republican senator ted cruz of texas said the supreme court was "clearly wrong" when it legalized same sex marriage. on tuesday, 17 democratic lawmakers were arrested outside the supreme court while protesting the court's recent decision overturning roe v. wade. >> what we want?

>> justice! >> if we don't get it? >> shut it down! amy: among those arrested were congressmembers alexandria ocasio-cortez of new york, ayanna pressley of massachusetts, ilhan omar of minnesota, cori bush of missouri, and assistant house speaker katherine clark of massachusetts. in a statement, clark said -- "the extremist republican party is determined to take us back in time and take away our rights. i refuse to stand on the sidelines as their rampage continues." in indiana, the doctor who recently provided abortion care to a 10-year-old rape survivor from ohio is moving to sue indiana's republican attorney general todd rokita for

defamation. last week, rokita appeared on fox news and falsely accused the doctor, caitlin bernard, of having a "history of failing to report" abortions to the state. the lawsuit alleges rokita made the false statement as part of an effort to "heighten public condemnation of dr. bernard, who legally provided legitimate medical care." sri lankan lawmakers have voted to elect former prime minister ranil wickremesinghe as president following last week's resignation of sri lankan president gotabaya rajapaksa after mass protests rocked sri lanka. wickremesinghe is a six-time former prime minister who was a close ally to the former president. protesters decried his selection as sri lanka's new leader. >> it is a sad day.

for the world. it seems the world is accepting this manner of leadership because this is someone who did not win an election. this is someone who was selected by the people's mandate. how ethical is it for someone like him, let alone lead a country, be head of state? amy: pakistan's ruling coalition has rejected calls for early national elections by former prime minister imran khan following an election in pakistan's most populous state where members of khan's party won 15 of 20 seats up for grabs. khan was ousted from power in april in what he described as a form of u.s.-backed regime change. supporters of khan say the election results show he remains pakistan's most popular leader. russian president vladimir putin traveled to iran tuesday to meet the leaders of iran and turkey.

it w putin's first foreign trip since the russian invasion of ukraine. iran's supreme leader ayatollah ali khamenei backed russia's actions in ukraine. he told putin, "if you had not taken the helm, the other side would ha done so and initiated a war." russia and iran also discussed a proposed $40 billion deal for ssia to help develop gas and oil fiel in iran. the u.s. launched airstrikes in southern somalia saturday. u.s. military claims the strikes killed two members of the al-shabaab militant group. in may, president biden approved a pentagon plan to redeploy up to 500 u.s. drones to somalia. the move reversed and moved by then-president trump.

a warning to our audience, this headlines includes graphic video of police violence. in san bernardino, california, the family of a black man shot dead by police is calling for charges to filed against the officers involved. on saturday, two officers jumped out of an unmarked police car and within seconds shot 23-year-old robert adams in the back as he tried to run for cover. civil rights attorney ben crump, who is representing the family, shared security camera footage of the shooting which he described as a "horrific execution." in a statement, crump said -- "roberappeared to be simply walking around the parking lot when officers exited their unmarked vehicle firing their weapons at him immediately. robert never had a chance to explain himself." a spokesperson for the san bernardino police department said adams "fit the description" of a tip police were investigating but the

spokesperson admitted to the guardian that the officers had no knowledge of who adams was or his background when they shot him. and in labor news, chipotle has permanently closed a restaurant in augusta, maine, just a month after workers filed to form a union. an attorney for the labor union chipotle united described the actions of the company as "union busting 101." and those are some of the headlines. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman in new york, joined by democracy now! co-host juan gonzález in new brunswick, new jersey. hi, juan. juan: hi, amy. welcome to all of our listeners and viewers from around the country and around the world. amy: the u.s. secret service has reportedly only provided a single text exchange to the department of homeland security inspector general who had requested the agency to hand over all text messages from 24 individuals around the time of

the january 6 insurrection. the agency has also told the house january 6 committee that it has no new text messages to share with lawmakers. the secret service is claiming all of the messages have been purged. last week, a government watchdog with the homeland security department said in a letter to lawmakers that the erasure took place shortly after oversight officials requested electronic communications from the agency. -- the agency be preserved. the messages could come from testimony from former white house aide cassidy hutchinson to the house select committee to investigate the january 6 attack on the united states capitol stop she accused then-president trump of attacking his own presidential security detail after the secret service refused to drive trump to the capitol to join the armed mob gathering to block congress from counting electoral college votes.

in minute, we will be joined by congress member jamie raskin, who is a member of the committee, that is scheduled to hold its next hearing thursday. first, this is cassidy hutchinson, testifying about what she was told happened insi trump's presidential limo known as the beast. >> the president had gotten into the vehicle with bobby. he thought they were going up to the capitol and what bobby relayed to him, we are not, we don't have the assets to do it is not secure, we are going back to the west wing. the president had very strong, very angry response to that post of tony described him as being irate. the president said something to the effect of, i am the effing president, take to the capitol now. to which bobby responded, sir,

we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up to the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. ingle grabbed his arm and said, sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump used his free hand to lunch toward bobby ingle. he motioned toward his clavicles. amy: this comes amidst the role of the secret service and how the secret service tried to remove pence from the potential threat but pence reportedly told the secret service "i'm not getting in the car" concerned it was stop him from certifying election results by driving him away who knows where. both pence and trump are to hold rallies in arizona this friday as they can paper rival

candidates and will also give major speeches on the same day in washington. for more, we're joined by congress member jamie raskin, democrat of maryland, member of the house jane were select committee investigating the january 6 the tact. welcome back to democracy now! there is so much to discuss. the secret service purging all the text messages around january fit and sixth? can you tell us the latest? >> that is what we are being told. the whole thing stinks die heaven. an agency would order or permit destruction of text relating to january 6 ithe weeks following january 6 is just unacceptable. it is appalling.

the bureaucratic and political question of how this happened, who ordered it, was really some preplanned telephone migration or was it, obviously, political, as part of some attempt to conceal evidence? and there is the technological question which is, regardless of how it happened or why it happened, can we retrieve and recover those texts? one thing i found in this process, amy, even when someone is trying to block us from finding something out, there will be multiple other avenues for us to discover the information we're lking for. amy: can't criminal charges be brought against the destruction of requested information when they were told to preserve this? number two othis issue of pence in the secret service, you have said that pence a saying i'm not getting in the car or --

the six most chilling words that you have heard in a long time. >> first of all, anybody who engages in deliberate destruction or concealment of evidence may have committed a crime. that is something the prosecutors and the doj are just going to have to deal with. yes, it is a rather disturbing pattern that we have seen. vice president pence had said, i'm not getting in the car. he apparently was uncertain whether he would ever be returned to execute his constitutional duty of counting the electoral college votes if he did get in that car. and so he refused to go. credit to him for making sure that that was not going to be left to chance or to somebody

else's will at that point. juan: congressman, about these are great service deleted text messages, reminiscent going back to the watergate era, the infamous 18 minute gap in the white house tapes of cover station, in th case between president nixon and his chief of staff and the secretary for the president claiming at the time that she inadvertently, as she was transcribing the tapes, erased key conversations that were occurring between nixon and halderman on watergate at that time. you are familiar with that history. what do you see, is this comparable and a terms of a potential smoking gun here? >> well, first of all, numerous congressional committee chairs wrote to all of the agency and

department heads to say they have a responsibility to preserve these records. the people who are serving in particular government jobs are not a praetorian guard surrounding the incumbent president in concealing the evidence of their activities. these are people who are public servants sworn to uphold the constitution and the rule of law. so would you consider that a very serious issue. if there's is any deliberate effort to circumvent and defy the clear import of federal law, which is the preservation and the nondestructive such records. but so, you know, we are going to pursue this matter but our first interest is in finding the lost texts and recovering and retrieving them, and we are going to do everything in our power to do that. i will say, you know, unlike

perhaps in the watergate analogy, this is not the sole crucial piece of evidence. we have a smoking tweet, if you will, in donald trump calling everybody to come and stop the steal and then proceeding knowing that his mom was armed and dangerous can't order them to hit the capitol and then trying to go with them and continuing to egg them on and the rest of that story will be told tomorrow night at r final hearing in this series of hearings. so we want all of the evidence. we are determined to get all of the evidence. but the picture is very clear at this point about what happened. this was an organized hit against american democracy in order to overturn a presidential election. juan: can you talk about the significance of the last hearing that was held?

the seventh hearing of the committee on july 12 and the key testimony of oath keepers as a witness? explain to our audience the importance of the role of the oath keepers and the proud boys and what was billed to the public as a spontaneous protest. >> the suggestion had always been that this was just a boisterous rally tt got out of control and it was all spontaneous and ad hoc. in all of our evidence demonstrates that is completely false. this was orchestrated. it was deliberate. it was planned. we traced it to this explosive and chaotic meeting at the white house on december 18, which ended in failure -- trumps

outside advisors came in and tried to convince the inside advisors, the white house counsel and other lawyers, of their new plan, just to get the united states military to seize the election machinery and rerun the election and engagin prosecutions of people in t states under a new special counsel that they wanted to appoint sidney powell, who is a borderline to ranged election denier. so we told that story. when all of it exploded and trump was not going to ve his wawith his advisers, his internal advisers who were telling him really that the election was over and it was the end of the road for him -- pressure, course state election officials, the department of justice. all of that had failed. all of the doors were closed. they were essentially trying to get him just at that point to accept the reality of defeat.

he wasn't going to accept the reality of defeat, but the new executive order declaring seizure of the election machinery and sidney powell as counsel was not going to work, either. and that is when he decided to turn to his final ace in the hole or his hail mary task, which is to go back to what he thought was the touchstone in the foundation of his political power, the crowd, the mob. an hour after all of those people left the white house, he sent out this tweet about a big protest in washington on january 6, which up to that point had not been a date in the consciousness of the extreme right and the domestic violent stream is groups and his followers, but at that point he catalyzed and organized all of the opposition to the election to the day of the counting of the electoral college votes. he became the first president in

our history to mobilize a protest against the peaceful transfer of power. as we showed in the meeting it had an explosive effect, generally among trump's followers, but especially among the domestic violent extremist groups who very quickly adopted the date, began organizing and mobilizing to get people to washington, and then engaged in increasingly bellicose and violent and homicidal rhetoric online about killing politicians, about white revolution, about red weddings, which means mass killings, and so on. so it was several weeks of that kind of buildup when the crowd arrived in washington, and then donald trump urged the secret service just to wave and everybody whether they were armed or not. of course there were knives, guns, there was teargas,

ar-15's. we showed everybody the arsenal of weapons that was brought to washington. that was the source of the attack on the capitol and the storming of the capitol, the breaking of our windows and the injury of more than 150 officers. that is how we nearly came to see our constitutional republic as we know it toppled that day. amy: congressmember raskin, i want to go to your introduction last week as you are looking at these far-right groups, three presenters, proud boys, etc., planning to carry out the january 6 insurrection and how they were incited by then-president trump. >> the problem of politicians whipping up mob violence to destroy fair elections is the oldest domestic enemy of constitutional democracy in america.

abraham lincoln knew it, too. in 1837, recessed mob in illinois broke into the offices of an abolitionist newspaper and killed its editor elisha lovejoy. lincoln wrote a speech in which he said that no trans atlantic military giant could ever crush us as a nation even with all of the fortunes and in the world, but if downfall ever comes to america, he said, we, ourselves, would bets author and finisher . if racist mobs are encouraged by politicians to rampage and terrorize, lincoln said, they will violate the rights of other citizens and quickly destroy the bonds of social trust necessary for democracy to work. mobs and demagogues will put us on a path to political tyranny, lincoln said. as we will see today, this very old problem has returned with new ferocity today as a president who lost an election deployed a mob which included

dangerous extremists to attack the constitutional system of election and the peaceful transfer of power. amy: that is congressmember jamie raskin in his introduction and the seventh public hearing of the committee to investigate the attack on the u.s. capitol. as we talk about what is happening on thursday night, the prime time -- don't know if it will be the last one, i don't even know if you do -- hearing, public hearing at least. there is a lot of discussion about your looking at the 187 minutes or whatever of what president trump did not do, his "inaction." but is it inaction? you're very clear about this when you talk about and attempted coup by president trump. is this a crime of omission, really, or commission? doesn't it lose its power when you say in fact it trump jus

look the other way? >> well, from the standpoint of the defense of our government and our constitution, at best he did nothing. from the standpoint of the insurrection and the coup, he continued to exhort, insight, contact, and organize. and we will show both sides of it. but for anyone who believes that -- anyone who is still skeptical that trump was the central actor of all these events, for anyone who thinks these thin would have happened even if donald trump was opposed to them, at the very least, they're going to have to concede he did not act as the commander-in-chief defending the branches of government and the america people in our system of government. we will show both the sins of omission and commission, amy. juan: what is your response to

those americans who are skeptical about the work of the committee who say in a polarized climate that we live in today, one, it is unlely that the justice department will hand down indictments -- criminal indictments related to the activities of january 6 even if the justice department does indict people, including president trump, the likelihood of finding 12 americans in injury to unanimously convict is small? or even if there are convictions, that appeals that would inevitably go to the courts, even the supreme court, will end up overturning any such convictions? what is your response to that skeptical perspective? >> that is pretty dark. let me say this. in a democracy, the people have the right to the truth, period. we are operating under house resolution 503 which has

instructed us to assemble all of the facts of the violent insurrection, the attack on our system of democracy on january 6 and then to look at the caes and to make specific recommendations about how to move forward as a country to fortify ourselves against coups, insurrections, efforts by organize political groups to drain elections of significance by usurping the will of the people. so we have got the authority and the mandate and t imperative of doing that regardless of the questions individual criminal countability that you're raising. but i will say about that, i have got sewhat more faith and our justice system then you do. or that position. i believe that juries that are drawn faiy will represent common sense in the wisdom of the people and will be able to

respond effectively to violations of law and follow the rule of law and make reasonable judgments about it. when mitch mcconnell got up after our impeachment trial -- and you will recall that was a trial where we achieved the most sweeping bipartisan vote to convict a president in u.s. history. there have only been four trials -- andrew johnson, bill clinton, trump one and trump two who had a vote that fell 10 short of the two thirds majority so he did be the constitutional spread and yet we have a robust bipartisan majority in the senate agreeing to the house's article of impeachment that passed strongly in the house, also on a bipartisan basis. but when all of that was over, mcconnell said -- he voted against it and he was speaking

for a lot ofepublican senators but he said that donald tru was actually ethically, morally, practically responsible for everything that had taken place, but he felt the senate did not have jurisdiction to try a president who had alrdy left office. on its own merits, we think that was ridilous and silly arguments that have been discredited over two centuries of corrupt officials making that argument, and we had dispensed with that argument on the very first day of the trial in 54-46 vote. by going back to it, essentially, mcconnell was engaging in jury nullification. i raised it because after he said that, he said there are lots of other wayto hold former president accountable, including civil and criminal prosecution. so for those who felt like somehow the senate did not have the jurisdictional authority to try the president, this is the

moment that the preside must be held accountable. it is not the only way because section three of the 14th amendment also provides -- a provision adopted by the radical republicans during the reconstruction period -- it provides that someone who has held elected office as part of the union and sworn an oath to uphold and defend the constitution but then violates that oatby engaging in insurrection and rebellions against union, may never again hold federal or state office in the union. so that is another problem that donald trump has to face. but i reject anybody who throws their hands up and says it is just hopeless, there's nothing that can be done. and all the more so do i reject those who say this is a partisan exercise. if it is a partisan exercise, then it is a republican partisan exercise because the overwhelming majority of witnesses against donald trump and the coup and the insurrection have been

republicans across the country. america congressmember jamie raskin, i want to ask about yesterday's primary. about the pro-trump republican dan cox who won tuesday's republican gubernatorial primary. last year he helped organize buses to washington on january 6 when he called vice president mike trance a traitoror for not supporting trump's efforts to overturn the election. if elected, has vowed to conduct a forensic audit of the 2020 election, will ban abortion he said in maryland, and end what he describes as sexual indoctrination in schools. interestingly, the democratic governors association spent over $1 million helping elevate cox's message to help the campaigns far right candidates that democrats will hope to be more vulnerable in the november general election. can you talk about who cox is and how closely related he is to what happened on january 6?

>> yes, i know dan cox. he ran against me for congress in 2016. i beat him i think it was 61 to 39 or 60/40, something like that. but he is a serious candidate and obviously speaks to an extreme right faction in our state that has swallowed trumpist indoctrination. he is a major champion of the big lie. he follows trump in sang the election was the insurrection, the insurrection was the election. and he participated in the events of january 6. so you could not have a pure distillation of dangerous extremist ideology than what is propounded by dan cox, who lives in my district in frederick county. but i believe that our party is

going to come together and has to come together quickly to bring together all of the different excellent candidates we have. the election has not been called yet. i think westmore is in first place, john perez and a second place, likely to be one of those two candidates. anwhoever wins, we're going to have to rally everybody and take this threat very seriously. amy: finally, congressman raskin, we have sadly spoken you about your son tommy who died of suicide right before the beginning of this year. can you tell us about the suicide hotline, what has now happened nationally, that you are a key part? he died at the age of 25, dealing with depression. >> actually, we lost tommy the last day of 2020. it has been a year and a half that we have been without him. yeah, so 988 is a new suicide

hotline number. for people who were just in crisis to call around the country. i have worked with a bunch of my colleagues to make sure that we have proper funding so the infrastructure is there all around the country. we're helping the state counties and cities ramp up so they are able to deal with the volume of calls that come in under 988. but we are living in a very tough time, amy, with covid-19, with the opioid crisis, with gun violence, with the civil division and polarization which a lot of political forces thrive on, and of course the insurrection itself. so these things have made a very rough on young people. the surgeon general has declared a national mental health emergency for the young, and that is not just young people

tommy's age and either 20's or adolescence, but even kids, too. this 988i hope will be something that saves some lives and also brings consciousness to the fact we have got to get together as a society a we have to look at what the cost of both ignoring big problems like climate change is but also lk at what the st of the political polarization division, big lies, conspiracy theories, and so on are for our people because it is profoundly damaging. amy: congressman jamie raskin, thank you for being with us, mccright of maryland, member investigating the january 6 capitol insurrection, which he witnessed. author of "unthinkable: trauma, truth, and the trials of american democracy." was also lead impeachment manager in president trump's second impeachment trial. when we come back, we will be joined by another congressman,

pramila jayapal. this after a man was arrested on suspicion of hate crime after neighbors said he allegedly pointed a gun at her home and threatened to kill her. we will speak with her about hopes for assault weapons ban, what next for a post-roe america sheer cell having an abortion, and more. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break]

amy: "all together now" by the farm. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. we spent the rest of the hour with congressmember pramila jayapal, chair of the congressional progressive caucus, which represents some 40% of house democrats. last week, a 48-year-old was arrested in seattle on suspicion of a hate crime after he allegedly threatened to kill congressmember jayapal. she is the first indian american congresswoman to serve in the house of representatives. officers found the man outside her home saturday night with a .40-caliber handgun holstered on his waist.

a neighbor reportedly overheard the man yell, "go back to india. i'm going to kill you" and said the man drove by jayapal's house three times that same night. >> she is a public figure and somebody who is out here screaming and yelling and cursing, you know, "kill you" and "go back to where you come from" and those kinds of things, walking onto her property. not ok. amy: on wednesday, the man accused of threatening to kill congressmember jayapal was released from jail. king county prosecutors said they have not ruled out filing a criminal case but claim they currently lack evidence to prove a hate crime was committed. they did seize the man's weapons through an extreme risk protection order. this comes as house democrats are still trying to push through assault weapons ban after last month's modest bipartisan gun deal. congressmember pramila jayapal says the violence she and others have faced stems from the actions of former president donald trump. she joins us now. welcome back to democracy now!

we are horrified this has happened to you. how are you doing? can you tell us more about what has happened? are you concerned he is out? >> a, it is always good to be with you. it has been a rough couple of weeks, i'm not going to lie. i said to somebody the other day i am ok and i'm not ok because i think this is the extreme violence we are seeing across the country, it is not an accident that it targeted me as an immigrant woman of color who has been prominent on the front lines of fighting against white supremacy and for racial justice agnst the extreme maga peoe that are out there. i do think it is very much -- it is not that racism and white supremacy have not existed throughout the history of our untry, course they have, but when you have somebody in the white hou using the most powerful pulpit of the ld actually using the tools of

government to foment,o condone, to fuel, to encourage, to ask for extreme violence, whether it is thugh legislative tools like a muslim ban or through rallies and yelling for people to beat somebody up at a rally or whether it is with hiswn language and rhetoric targeting peoplei, otherzing people and the big lie in the cod attempt and the relationships he had with groups like crowd was in oath keers. we cannot separate the violence that we're seeg that i saw at my home from all of that. the investigation is ongoing. i do bieve the prosecutor wil be able to file charges. i certainly hope so. am glad we hadrotection orders washington state and were at least able to get the glock that

the man had on him at the time as well as another gun that he had access to in the place he was staying. at least we have those guns. but he is still out there. yes, i fear for my safety and my family safety. unfortunately, it is taking a lot of time for me to simply coordinate making sure that i am safe at home. juan: congresswoman, it has been about a year and a half now since the january 6 insurrection. we heard numerous reports of continued acts of intimidation at all levels of government against election officials, escobar meetings across the country -- at school board meetings across the country. is it your sense that this neofascist or white supremacist movement is continuing to gather steam or has it been set back by

the investigations and the continued -- to hold those responsibleor january 6? >> it is absolutely continuing to gather steam. unfortunately, this kind of hate, extremist violence isery difficult. i am not saying it is impossible and i'm not saying we should stop working toward this, but i is difficult to rollback once unleashed. i think it is really important th our law-enforcement agencies focus on this as the number one threat in our country. i sit on t judiary committee with my friend jamie raskin who you just had on, and we've had a number of hearings with the fbi about the threat of extremist maga right-wing violence and it is country, about whi supremacy and really pushing the department of justice and the

fbi and our other law enforcement agencies to make sure they are taking this as seriously as they need to be. but remember, these agencies had a different president for four years. and many of the people that he instilled are still there. many of th people that have beennleashed are stillut there. and so i thi we have to b clear d vigilant, and i know i am encouraging all of my colleagues in the house to make sure that thr security is up as wel- let me just be clear. i have been an activist for 20 years. i have attended any protests. have had peopl protesting me. i think those are different things than extrem violence where somedy is stalking an elected official not because of a particular vote but becaus of where she comes from and general political ideology that is

extremely violent and, of course, with a gun. we need to take away the tools from people who just find it too easyhese days to express their hatred, they're white supremacy, the racism in violent ways. i think dr. king said it best when he said morality cannot be regulated but behavior can be legislated. amy: a lot is changed. even fox news viewers, they did a poll and they overwhelmingly are for more gun control most of this issue of an assault weapons ba and 18-year-old not getting these guns, what is the house doing about this and does it matter if or do you think that the senate the climate has just changed? >> i think we have passed a number of very strong gun reform bills. todawe will be marking up -- that is where i'm going right

after i get off with you -- we will be marking up an assault weapons ban. i think it is the first time that it is being marked up since it was essentially allowed to expire. it is a really important, very popular policy acrosthe country supported by independent republicans and democrats because nobody believes you need to have a weapon that can fire 100 rounds, 70 rounds that you can kill multiple, dozens of people in just minutes, and that is what we have seen happening in uvalde as well as in shootings across the country. the only country that has allowed these mass shootings to happen and then we still do nothing about it. we will pass the assault weapons ban i believe on the floor of the house. it is gointo be -- we're going to have to really push hard all the way to the end, but that is

the process that has prioritize the assault weapons made for a long time. we will get it to the floor and pass it, but i want to be clear to anybody that is listening that we need to look at the structural failures of the senate. and that is the filibuster. the idea that 40 senators, 40% of that body, can block any bill from coming tohe floor -- not just for a vote but for debate -- add that is a jim crow legacy . it has always been used to stop civil rights. it is not required under the constitution. we can and must eliminate the filibuster because the inaction of the senate has created a vacuum. and into that vacuum has stepped in extreme right when

republican court. cases that have been settled for half a century. amy: we're going to go to break for 20 seconds and then take up this issue of what we now are living in, a post-roe america. we're speaking with congressmember pramila jayapal. ♪♪ [music break] amy: "break free" by aurora dee raynes. this is democracy now! i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. tuesday, 17 democratic lawmakers

, almost all women, were arrested outside the supreme court while protesting the court's recent decision overturning roe. we're speaking with congressmember pramila jayapal. last year as chair of the congressional progressive caucus, she testified about having her own abortion. i want to play a clip of that right now. >> i speak to you as one of the one in four women in america who have had an abortion. and for you to understand how i ultimately decided to have an abortion, i have to start earlier with the birth of my first child. janet was born at 26.5 weeks while i was on a two-year fellowship living in india. they weighed only one pound, 14 ounces and upon birth, went down to wait of just 21 ounces.

jennick was so small, they fit in the palm of my hand. the size of a medium-sized squash. for three months, we did not know if jennick would live or die. they needed multiple blood transfusions, had to be fed drop by drop, and constantly had the heart stop and start. we returned to the united states after three months. in those really intensely difficult years, jennick had water on the brain, seizures, and repeatedly returned to the emergency room because of life-threatening pneumonia. the fact that jennick is a 25-year-old beautiful human being is a true miracle and the greatest gift in my life. at the same time that jennick was born, i was fighting to keep my legal permanent resident status, married to a u.s. citizen with a u.s. citizen

child now. in the end i was able to return to the united states with my child, provided i started from scratch to qualify for citizenship. as a new mom taking care of a very sick baby and recovering from major surgery myself, i was struggling. i experienced severe postpartum depression and post dramatic stress disorder was only diagnosed after i contemplated suicide and realized i needed to seek help. my marriage did not survive. we split custody of jennick and i was a part-time single parent. shortly after i met a wonderful man who is my husband today. i knew i was not ready to have another child, so i religiously took my daily contraceptive pills. despite that, i became pregnant. i consulted with my doctors told me any future pregnancy would likely also be high-risk risk to me and the child, similar to what i had gone through with jennick. i very much wanted to have more children that i civilly could

not imagine going through that again. after discussions with my partner, who is completely supportive of whatever choice i made, i decided to have an abortion. amy: that is congressmember pramila jayapal testifying bravely in congress last year. congressmember jayapal, since then, roe v. wade has been overturned. your comments? >> amy, catastrophic decision. it is very clearo me that this decision, by five supreme court justices who were appointed by presidents who lost the popular vote, have literally taken it uponhemselves to overturn not just the precent, but prepare for overturning other preceden. we have to be clear that abortion and the right to make decisions about our own bodies is so innate -- innately tied to

our ability to control everhing in our lives. these decisions are so nuanced, they reqre knowledge situations that nobody else has except the pregnant person and the people that we choose to bring in as loved ones. i think we have to be clear that this decision is not going to make abortion go away. abortion is going to continue to happen and it is going to be illegal, criminalized. people are going to die. we cannot let it stand. that is why we ha to codify roe v. wade and we have to push back on this radical supreme court. juan: i would like to ask about another -- climate crisis. more than 1100 people have died in heatwaves in parts of europe and huge wildfires in portugal, france, spain. britain under a national emergency. you tweeted on tuesday, "we'll

bang heatwaves across the country and globe are shattering records. the climate crisis is here and now. action cannot wait any longer." yet we are sing so many countries as a result of the war in ukraine going back on the proposals, on their moves in terms of addressing the climate crisis your take on the issue? >> climate change haseen one of my personal top prioritie but alsone for the progressive caucus. it is why we fought so hard for that half trillion dollar investment and build back better and why we held of the infrastructure built multiple times, even after every democratic senator had voted for it and sent it over to us. but we wanted to see build back better pass, which we did pass, but we also since that has died, things to one senator, democratic senator in the senate -- amy: 10 seconds. >> suprt, we have also called for a climate emergency and a

slate of exec of actions. that is what we think the president must do now. amy: are you sorry he is not doing it today? >> he has got to do it quickly. it is ok that is not today but it should be today, tomorrow, or the immediate days because that is how urgent it is and we need

■? (sophie fouron) it's always interesting to listen to the sounds of nature, especially here. you hear the bald eagles, a lot. the ravens. salmon jumping. you kind of understand why they call it "the last frontier". you can't really go further than baranof island. it is what you imagine alaska to be. kilometers, and kilometers, and kilometers of forest. there are very little paved roads here. you don't spend much time in your car, but you spend