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of missile attacks. at least one person in the capital kyiv has died, and power outages are being reported nationwide. the president of ukraine saying the situation in his country is now critical. ♪ brent: i'm brent goff. to our viewers watching on pbs in the united states and around the world, welcome. we start tonight with breaking news, a senior u.s. intelligence official says russian missiles have crossed into nato member poland polish media say a projectile struck a village near the ukrainian border, killing two people. the polish government has not confirmed that report, but we do understand that poland's prime minier has called an emergency security council meeting. we also understand that the
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pentagon in the united states says is looking into this report. for more now we want to cross over to our reporter in warsaw. what more do you know from where you are? reporter: we are having reports from polish firefighter saying that two people have died in an explosion next to the border wi ukraine, just six kilomete away from theorder. there e pictures from the site, you can see a crater under a tractor and agricultural area, so there are unconfirmed reports so far that this could've been a russian missile strike. as you mention, the polish government is not confirming
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this so far, and as we've been observing many rocket attacks there are concerns this could have been a russian attack. brent: what can you tell us about the emergency meeting of poland's national security council? reporter: the prime minister called this meeting, it started at 8:00 and is still going on. the polish government has only said the meeng is happening due to an extreme situation but there was no more information given. we are waiting for more information when the meeting is concluded and there is also a meeting of the polish government -- brent: we are looking at pictures of where the emergency meeting is taking place. poland has been very vocal in its support for ukraine, at the
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same time poland realizes it is a memb of nato. it has been an a very difficult situation. this report tonight, and the possibility that this is a russian missile, what could it do to change the calculation here? reporter: poland is eight nato member and it has been a vocal suorter of ukraine. it has delivered big numbers of weapons to ukraine and has given shelter to ukrainian refugees. there are also nato troops present in polo -- in poland. any confirmation of this event today could have major repercussions for nato as a whole. brent: what about the situation
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there the past nine months? how present has this potential risk been just in public among the polish people that this war could bleed over, spill over into poland? reporter: the war has been very present. polish people have been following the war very close, we've been supporting ukraine locally. polish people are aware of the fact that there is a jor conflict going on but at the same time they are keeping calm, and the polish people believe in the guarantees of nato and the defense pact, so i don' think many people fear russia despite
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the fact at this could've been a russian rocket. it would not come as a big surprise because few people have been thinkin that th could be a possibility. brent: it's still a fluid situation. thank you very much. we are trying to get reactions or comments coming from nato. we have heard from the united states, a pentagon spokesman saying the u.s. position here is clear. take a listen. >> as i mentioned, we are looking into these reports. we don't have any information to corroborate them at this time so i don't want to speculate in hypotheticals. when it comes to our security commitments in article five, we have been crystal clear that we will defend every inch of nato territory. brent: our correspondent in washington, we want to remind
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our viewers we are effort into confirmed these reports come the situation is fluid, but the reports are out there. what are you hearing from u.s. officials about a potential russian missile hitting a nato country? reporter: i can tell you tt u.s. officials are treading very cautiously at the moment. that means they are not saying very much. that clip you just played was from a press conference a short while ago with the department of defense press secretary brigadier patrick ryder. he said as you heard in that clip that the pentagon is looking into these reports, that they cannot yet corroborate this information, these reports of russian missiles entering poland. you mentioned that the information is being attributed to senior u.s. intelligence sources, but again, the pentagon for its part is not able to corroborate that information so far. the brigadier general saying every inch of nato territory
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will be defended. it was a brief statement he delivered during his press conference. he talked about u.s. presence in the region and he said and it comes to force protection, we will always take the security and safety of our troops, no matter where they are station, very seriously. but he said first of all we have to get the facts on the ground. we did see a tweet from the spokesperson for the white house national security council, the tweet saying we've seen the reports out of poland, were working with the polish government to gather more information. cannot confirm the reports are any of the details at this time. we will determine what happened and what the appropriate next steps will be. so it looks like they are waiting for confirmation from poland itself. president biden is in asia with g20 counterparts at that g20 meeting. we have not seen any statements from the white house or president biden.
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he is not due to arrive back here until tomorrow evening, but very likely we will not see a comment from the white house just yet, until some of the facts are cleared up. brent: we can understand why they are being very cautious. our correspondent in washington, thank you. if you're just joining us, here is a reminder of this breaking news, a senior u.s. intelligence officials saying that russian missiles have crossed into nato member poland. polish media are saying that a projectile struck a village near the polish-ukrainian border and two people have died. the government has not confirmed that report, but we do understand that poland's prime minister is now in an emergency meeting with the country's national security council. the pentagon says it is looking into the reports, no verification coming from there.
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teri schultz joins me from brussels where nato headquarters is located. from your sources in poland, what have you been hearing about reports of this reject i'll hitting polish territory? teri: that's right, using the word projectile is what my sources are saying at the moment. they have not confirmed officially that this is a missile. they say that it could also be a drone. there are also reports at what the explosion on the ground was actually the aftermath of eight missile potentially being shot down. i would emphasize we do not have official confirmation of that yet from the polish government and just within the last moment i've received a quote from a nato official saying they are looking into the reports and consulting closely with poland. so we really do not have official confirmation of that yet. i think these meetings that are taking place in warsaw, when that is over, we will know a lot more. brent: we will probably -- that
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will determine what nato will do next, if anything. what protocols are already in place, if it is confirmed that the nato member has been hit by a russian missile? reporter: a lot will depend on what the polish government wants to do. i'm told that in the morning, it is highly likely, certain that there will be what is called an article four meeting. this means that when a nato ally feels there has been a threat to its territorial security or its political independence, it can call these article for talks and that is to give everyone else in the alliance the most updated information that they have and also to get a sense of unity. there is often a statement to remind everyone that article five is ironclad and that they
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all stand with the ally who has been threatened. i don't think it has yet been decided for sure. brent: regarding article five, it has only been invoked one time in the history of nato and that was following the 9/11 attacks. for the past nine months we have heard time and time again from nato that it is prepared for all eventualities. there have also been military drills taking place across nato countries in the event that something bigger does breakout. nato has been telling the world, or showing the world that it is prepared for a worst-case scenario, hasn't it? teri: that's right, and this is in fact the kind of scenario journalists like myself have been posing to nato, what if this happens?
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what if a rocket, a missile, any kind of projectile does cross the border into nato territory, what exactly does it mean that you will defend every inch of the alliance territory? that will be put to the test now, if these were proven to have been russian launched projectiles. i would say that my source says every indication is that they were, but there are investigators on the scene at the moment. nato will have to decide based on what poland asks it to do. there are already a lot more u.s. soldiers for example in poland by request of the polish government. i believe it is 10,000 right now because of the threat of ukraine. there are other forces in poland as well, as well as the other allies along the border. so it will be a collective decision, based on what poland feels is needed to reassure it, once we find out exactly what happened tonight.
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brent: teri describing how volatile this situation is and it comes down to what the polish government tells us and what they want to do with the information they are right now. teri schultz in brussels, thank you. in ukraine, officials have reported today a fresh wave of missile attacks on at least 10 cities in the country. that includes capital of kyiv. it's mayor said the strike hit residential buildings in the capital but air defense was reportedly able to shoot down several missiles. at least one person was killed. the attacks also struck energy facilities, causing widespread power outages. more than 7 million households are now without electricity in ukraine. president zelenskyy has condemned today's airstrikes across his country.
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>> 85 missile strikes were fired at ukraine and our cities. the stkes were mainly on the energy infraructure. it is clear what the enemy wants. he will not achieve his goal. i'm asking you all to stay safe and stay covered for a while. i know the strikes cut off our energy supply in many cities in the country. we are working and we will restore everything, and we will survive everything. lori to ukraine. -- glory to ukraine. brent: our correspondent is in kyiv with more on these latest airstrikes. reporter: ukrainian officials have just called the attacks the heaviest wave of missile strikes during the entire war so far. russia has launched around 100 missiles into ukraine today in almost all regions of the country. we have heard air raid alerts, and you can feel it here in the
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city of kyiv in the shelters and also in the supermarkets that just opened again after the air raids were over. the scale of today's attacks really alarmed a lot of people. i was in my office when i heard the first explosions in the afternoon and when there was smoke rising over the city. from what we know so far, several residential buildings have been hit, at least two people died and many other cities including odessa and others, critical infrastructure was destroyed and millions of people are still without electricity. brent: the mayor of kyiv saying that half of the city is now without electricity. how are people dealing with this? these are repeated power cuts that we are seeing now. reporter: about half of kyiv is
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without power, but kyiv is not the worst affected city. lviv has been left almost completely in the dark. there are generators for critical infrastructure, and people have prepared themselves over the last weeks, they have torches and candles and also water supplies and additional supplies,ut today's power outages are really extreme. what affects a lot of people even more than the power outages is the fact that the internet is not working properly in many regions, and it is very difficult to communicate, so it is a very difficult situation here at the moment. brent: thank you.
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the war in ukraine is taking center stage at the g20 summit getting underway in indonesia. world leaders strongly condemned russian aggression in ukraine and called for an inch to the war, but russia is not completely isolated at the g20 summit, it has an ally, china. >> a meeting of the leading economic powers overshadowed by war. ukraine dominated discussions at the g20 in bali, from the impact on global prosperity and food security, to finding a pathway to peace. >> we must end the war. >> president bilotta mayor zelenskyy address the latest, saying we must >> act without delay. >>we will not allow russito wait it out, build up its forces
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and then unleash more forces, terror, and destabilization. now is the time when russia's war can and must be stopped. >> day one saw discussion of a draft declaration condemning russia's actions in ukraine and calling for a complete and unconditional withdrawal. but the statement also notes a clash of views. it says only most members condemned the war and that the g20 is not a forum for resolving security issues. >> we insisted that if they wanted to race this topic that much, though it is not on the agenda and is outside the confidence of the group of 20, then let's be honest and make it known that we have different opinions. yes, there is a hybrid war in ukraine, which the west started, and has been preparing for or
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many years. >> the statement would be a significant shift for countries like india and china, which abstain from a united nations resolution in march condemning russian aggression. aging has so far refused to call the war and invasion and has appealed for dialogue with moscow. but this joint declaration could further distance and increasingly isolated russia brent:. for more we want to go to a senior researcher at the monterey initiative in russian studies. it's good to have you with us. i'm sure you've heard these reports that we are possibly looking at russian missiles hitting polish territory, which is a member of nato. this is part of the worst-case scenario that people have been discussing since this war broke out, isn't it? >> it is, but i would encourage
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people to stay calm. there is still a lot that we don't know. i know the national security council are currently meeting and i think that in any case, article five is not some button you just press and it triggers it. is something that comes up in discussions and it's very unlikely that something like article five would be triggered over this. brent: i want to ask you about what we've seen at the g20, these recent attacks -- they come right after the draft declaration condemning russia's aggression. how much of a success is this draft really? >> i think it's a very good
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question. i don't think it is a success, i don't think it ever could be. i don't think the g20 really is the forum for resolving these security issues. that said, i think it was worth releasing it and i think it is worth having some honesty rather than sometimes they water down the statement so much, it's really hard to parse. so no, i don't think it is necessarily hugely successful. brent: russian president vladimir putin was personally invited to attend the g20 summit by indonesia, the host country. he ended up being a no-show. he sent his foreign minister sergey lavrov instead. the fact that putin is not there, is at a signal that he doesn't care much about what the world things about this war? or does it send the message that may be vladimir putin does not think it is prudent to leave the country?
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>> it's the opposite of your first suggestion. i think putin cares very, very much, and if there had been an opportunity for him to go, for the handshakes with joe biden or perhaps emmanuel macron, i think he would've gone. but what looked like was going to happen from the signals being sent is that he was going to be humiliated in the since and people would just get up and leave the room if he entered, and so on and so forth, and so he called off the trip really quite late. and i think it was in order to save face. brent: ukrainian president zelenskyy said today that there cannot be any territorial concessions on the part of ukraine, when we are talking about possible peace deals. do you think this stance, is it
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supported by the g20, or is there the impression that maybe the international community would gladly accept some type of -- the fact that russia gets to keep some territory? >> as we've discussed with the draft declaration, it's very difficult to talk of the g20 as a monolith. there are countries i think he would be happy to accept frozen conflict or some territorial concessions. however, it is not their territory to concede. i think it's not just zelenskyy's position, between 80%-90% of ukrainians are ainst any form of territorial concessions. slightly less in the east but still incredibly high, a strong
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majority. i think we would see the sort of infrared action -- insurrection style fighting we saw in iraq against u.s. forces, if not more. brent: you said the g20 is maybe not the right place for these type of conflicts to even maybe be addressed. what we have seen at the g20, before the meeting we saw the leaders of the u.s. and china agreeing to condemn any threat to using nuclear weapons, and of course that was meant for russia. now we have china and the g20 being seen as an ally of russia and possibly a blockade country in terms of where everyone agrees to condemn this war. china is showing that it is standing with russia here, isn't it? >> i think there have been mixed
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signals from china. china is on china's side, when it really comes down to it. we've seen that china has let it be known they are not very happy by the invasion. we sought messages by the french suggesting that xi jinping had condemned the attack on ukrainian sovereignty. however that was only in the french press release and it was not in the chinese. like i said, china is on china's side. i don't think it is quite right to see it as an ally of russia but as a partner, and it will not go against its own interest to help the west, that is for sure. brent: that from the moderate initiative in russian studies. we appreciate your time and your
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insights tonight, thank you. here is a reminder of the top story this hour, senior u.s. intelligence officials saying that russian missiles have crossed into nato member poland. the polish media are reporting that a projectile struck a village near the ukrainian-polish border and that two people were killed. polish prime minister has called an emergency meeting of the countries national security council that is still taking place. you are watching dw news. after a short break i will be back to take you through "the day." stick around, i will be right back. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, "on the road" -- [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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mark: welcome to "live from paris," world news analysis from france 24. russian missiles hit poland. to the people are reported killed. initially this is reported by u.s. intelligence. pullen has called for an emergency meeting with moscow, but this could represent a serious escalation does the war on ukraine. 58 russian missiles hit kyiv, lviv, as well as other targets across ukraine
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