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right plot to seize power. they arrested dozens of people on wednesday. when the party will vote any been power in some eu states. we see a border shifter the right in european politics. this is inside story. hello and welcome to the program. police and intelligence services in germany have disrupted a right wing plot to overthrow the government. they conducted raids across 130 sites nationwide, arresting what they said were ringleaders, including a 71-year-old prince, a retired senior military officer and judge and former far right in p. prosecutors believe that that group is planning an attack on parliament.

we will bring in our guest in a moment but first report from dominic kane in berlin. >> this is been about reaction to the events of wednesday. the arrest of those 25 people, the searches in so many different states in germany, and the very clear sense that something serious had been planned, which the authorities say they thwarted. that is reflected in the news. certainly in the newspaper. this is the site of newspaper saying security forces thwart a strike against the state. with the picture of the alleged ringleader being led away by heavily armed police officers. same sort of industry -- imagery. this time and says a strike against the rights or movement on group. that's important because that's where the attention is focused. this far-right groups wants to see a return to the imperial germany that govern this country prior to the end of the first

world war. the interesting thing being other questions, how could some of these people in this election reach such positions in society as a former member of that parliament. someone who is representing constituents until last year and is now accused or suspected of having plotted to overthrow it. so many questions being asked. dominic kane for inside story in berlin. >> i want to take a quick look at where far right parties ma gains across europe. giorgia meloni became prime minister after september selection leading the most right wing government since mussolini. the german fireeye party did badly in elections in may but still has about 20% support in the ease. fran's far right increases number of mps nearly tenfold after the legislative elections become the main opposition. poland's nationalist has been a government since 2015, some of its right wing policies leading to disputes with the eu and

sanctions. hungary is white wing run his fourth election in april while the far right sweden democrats hold the balance of power there with a minority coalition government depended on their support. let's bring in our guest in berlin. he is the founder and editor-in-chief and telly news. in rome we have eleanor, the head of analysis in the center for european policy network. in the university of northampton, also the author of pride and prejudice understanding britain's extreme right. thank you for joining us on inside story. the arrest of a former member and a member of the ast must be sending shock through germany. just how fringe is the group we are talking about?

>> it's pretty fringe. of course everyone is talking about it since it came out of left field, it's a lasting you expected. it's a coup d'état by a former prince. it's a pretty fringe group, the police said that they are extremely disorganized. that the plans they had were not realistic, and that this wasn't really going to go anywhere, and the chances of success were nearing zero. nevertheless, it represents the undercurrent here, there's a group of people in the organization. it says that germany should have a sovereignty pack that should go back to a monarchy. and the leader of this group, heinrich the third was intending to come back as some sort of ruler with amar and kick. it takes germany back to its

former glory prewar with the powerful country in europe. there something significant to that. at the end of the day i think most people are considering it to be extreme. >> the group was influenced by what's been happening in the u.s., the rise of q and on, the attack on the capital. how has it been across the outlet -- how have events affected influence groups, far right and extremist groups in europe? have they been emboldened? >> i think they're right wing radical -- is on e street. it is related somehow to what happened in the u.s., but there is the own reasons in history. but it's mostly related to

discontent within the economic governance. and i think there's also a method of sovereignty. many europeans in the country are asking against you or the political parties. so it has some connections. >> this was unknown group. many members have been quite open about their beliefs. they were radicalized. many on social media portals. i believe the pandemic as creative plenty of time for that. you work on radicalization, with this have not been possible with the technological shifts that we have seen? >> that's an interesting question. suddenly technology is really important to thick about the far right space. but also this is a group that is sensing tradition and other factors other than technology, not the impacts of the pandemic

on the ways that which that has changed the conspiracy theories as well. there is a cluster of things that are important to think about. >> dimension conspiracy theories, a lot are around some kind of shadow power structure secretly controlling government. how common are conspiracy theories when it comes to radicalizing people across europe? >> a lot of these theories i think are justifications for groups that had predispose the opposition to this the way the things are. and there are serious problems in very large changes that have been going on. i think a lot of these extreme groups, reactions like migrants we had here in germany, we had in the 90's -- 1990's about 8 million russians. we had syrians arise that have

been here for a long time. in another 300,000 ukrainians have arrived. the germans, some of them start asking what are they doing here on our very comfortable, are we spending money, giving them support, and that's the populace play on. the conspiracy theories. if you look at the agenda of this, they are talking about how the germans of germany have been destroyed. conspiracy theory is to get into details of how do we get here. deep state is international forces that are imposing foreign companies. it may be their focus on the migration. inequality here and eating away.

they come up with theories on how that works. >> we have seen a broad shift towards the far right across a number of countries in europe. i wanted to spend a moment on the idea of populism. there's a rift between the people in some kind of elite. the populace leaders themselves are the defenders of the masses. for me that sounds like it's built on fear. >> i think that kind of description is really interesting. one ring to think about is populism can be found in forms of fascism as well, which

proposed similar ideas which the mainstream political systems put up and it means to be replaced by something different. the main differences with today's populace is that they operate within the rules of the game. they too push against many aspects of micro-liberalism. so that can be really problematic. another thing to think about is the way in which the politics have shifted to become much more normal over the past 20 years or so. we went to the presidential campaign in the early 2000's. this was internationally reported as something very strange and it was a very significant news story about in event. when the event may much more successful campaigns in presidential elections. this has become a normalized situation.

this is what we talk about his being unusual. population is becoming much more accepted within european politics over the last 20 years. things like brexit and the u.k., helping to normalize islamophobia and so on. it also helps bring in language that used to be the very extreme way. the place in theory the idea that europeans are under attack with conspiracy. this is become much more out of the mainstream sphere of politics it needs to be 20 years ago. >> look at some of the drivers that you mention there, and i feel like it might be worth taking a moment to look at the demographics of the people who are driving the shift because it gives us a bit of a clue. i was working on a study that suggests it isn't necessarily debt prevention. we've talked about the economic

situation being a driver. is not deprivation driving people to vote for far right parties, but more the fear of deprivation that suggest they have something to lose. and it isn't those living in poverty voting for these parties. >> i think it's one of the elements we have to consider, working class and the middle class welfare. and that's one of the reason why all of these empty migration is raising. people are afraid to lose their cultural identity. this is the plate we see the far right parties or movements propaganda using populace victory. it provides answers to much bigger problems, this is one of the reasons. is it true that they are unable to provide effective answers and the sense that if you look at

many countries, right-wing parties like center-right resent her left parties, their policies are not different. they don't see any difference supporting this party when it comes to doing some actions to change the situation or provide solutions. putin said it's closer to the people who are suffering because the other element of the news is the victimization. they are the outsider from the benefit of economic normalization. >> eleanor, sorry, just there you mention -- you touched on a point that i would like to dig

into a little bit, you suggested that this is a new movement but a number of these parties like france's national road rally have been around for a long time. they were tiny to begin with and they gradually gained support. we talked a little bit about that, but it feels like it goes beyond that. let me throw this to you, eve alluded to something when you're talking about germany and the idea of sovereignty. how much has it contributed to this? >> germany, berlin since 2003 has changed when i came you had to speak german. over the last 20 years to transform into an international city.

there are so many foreigners here, people are starting to invest into it and the younger generations called into that to some extent. we cover eastern and central europe and the reaction against it, there's a fault line. to the left of it in traditional eu to the west, much more liberal and the ideas democracy and multicultural tolerance is prevalent everywhere. as soon as you go past austria to countries like poland and czech republic and hungary, it is much more unorthodox, traditional set of values where hungary's for the hungarians but it's also about family values and universal and homophobic, so people doing pride in the

central europe and in the balkans is stronger. there's a clash amongst the young people because they are looking for a new identity and there has been these changes in the country as now grown. they've come out of the transformation that was the end of the socialist block, and now they are quite strong. it is pushing for this new poland, this new identity within europe as european, but they are pushing back as he european and resisting the values because part of the european project is about ideas but they've taken the money and rejected the values and they are selling that to the young people in the young people are buying it because the previous history, socialist history is meaningless. >> i want to follow up on that cultural fault line because i know they have defined this

klatch to be -- clash to be against woke culture. this backlash. i know that it feels like there's a constituency of people that feels that they don't understand the world they are living in. our people now no longer voting on the economy, are they now voting on cultural divides? >> we cover everything up to moscow and beyond. the further east they go the stronger the reaction is. putin ridicules it. the young russians as well behind him as he says berlin in the christopher street gate parade is ridiculous. it's a lot of sympathy for that few in central and eastern europe and in the balkans it's the same thing, if not, stronger. the woke culture versus the

traditional orthodox, but again when the leaders in check or hungary or serbia are selling the ideas to their people, the traditional family orthodox families are very easy sell were as the more woke liberal multicultural, multi-gendered denominational cultures are much harder. it doesn't make much sense for people. this is one of the reasons i think it's driving people who came in as a liberal reformer and is now increasingly former right. >> we saw a shift from left to the right around brexit and the u.k.. that really became a flashpoint for the right. and i'm curious, we heard rhetoric then from boris johnson about essentially making britain great again if you wanted to use that phrase.

is this about trying to distance itself from the values of the european project? >> boris johnson gives aspects and elements of a populist star of politics. i think it comes to the previous plates around wokeness. we have to be careful about not taking on those kind of boundaries. i think most people don't live in that reality. i think i don't identify with either category. most people are moderated and have those positions. far right really likes to play on the sense that it's simplistic for understanding the

world. so there was a kind of a neat binary around freeing britain and dominating european project. but, those are messages that heals people, especially in a social media language. but not just to talk about describing the far right but challenge it. but the categories, the simple binaries are really actually super problematic. that is a problem. >> moving away from binary, i'm curious how giorgia meloni is viewed, not only in italy, but also by the eu because her party

had the roots and fascism and now it's been described as a post-fascist party. she expressed support for eu, is a normalization of the far right have fitting your politics? >> there is a normalization that it means to be working on this side of the west in this specific moment. this government has been elected. at the moment this government is not perfect. any point with you or nato or the western audience. he is working with maloney. on the other hand maloney is playing in a normal again, the sense that she's adopting qualities and now making extremely dangerous decorations.

i think the main aspect of government is within italy of the rhetoric's and the idea they need to protect the citizens. any he needs provide it. but it's mainly rhetorical in the sense that when it comes to real actions, nothing has changed much for the moment. >> i want to take a moment to look at what might happen in the future. we talked about it driven by the economy. there's a war in ukraine. the migrant crisis is continuing, and that has been a real flashpoint. it will continue making gains. >> it depends on how they will be happy to inform themselves and provide themselves more to the people. one of the problems is that the generation has seen so many

shifts in the way of living. economic cuts. there are a group of people in fear of any change. in those other ones supporting the antiestablishment movement. but this does it mean in the future they remain in power. in the moment it's shaped national and international, i think those parties would be put to test, but the chance for them to survive is really limited, especially because in the case of italy, they are in previous parts. quakes will be very interesting to see how this plays out. thank you for watching.

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