- we have done ourselves a disservice by not having a talk about dea th. oftentimes, they place a foot on the conveyor belt of end-of-life care and they're swept aw ay. - most anybody that i know has n ever experienced a home funeral or a natural bur ial. they don't know how to do it because no one's offering it. - everybody's life you leave a lega cy. and john would help their family remember that leg acy. but also, to put one foot in front of the ot her after losing someone close to

y ou. - this will be the first of what i beli eve many mindful, beautiful endings but beginnin gs. ♪ [ambient music] - [male announcer] major funding for reel south was provided by etv endowment, the national endowment for the ar ts center for asian-american media, south a rts, and by the corporation for public broadcast ing, a private corporation funded by the american peop le. [shoveling]

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- ople lovto talkbout death. i an, whent's nothappeng to t m. yoknow wt i an? ey don'tike to tk abt death relat nto themsves, they li to talkabout deh like, my go d you he about that carre ck? d you he about so-and-sthat d d? or did y hear they fod the bo over there? oh my go as long ast's t affectg th emthat'shen peoplewill tk about it.thisind of bial ound hasot been ne--nobo's done before re. so that'go od. becae we geto beheirst a we don't ha a precedentthat whave to ll ow.but the se time nobo's donit h er we'reiguring lot oftuff outn the y. lening a ltle herend a lile theres

we cree th is [intersing vces] - i started,ealisticly in theuneral biness wh i was prably sixr se ve i haa small meteryat thedge of t w oods ere i grewp onhe f ar and i wod find tse littl grasoppers a dead birds d differt thin . and i dot know wt reallystrucke to stoand pa ibute oro createhis ment ofemembran, but i d it. and stuck wh me rough myigh scho d ays. and righafter hi school,my grafather psed aw . ani quicklbecame involvedn work g my locafuneral

me.after out 15 yrs in th convtional feral ind try, asn embalm and naging auneral home and seng famils and plning furals on day-to-d bas is i realed that e convenonal fural indury, for me wa't good ou gh. and didn't uly et the needs ofhe indivuals we re seing or t environ nt. ♪ the indury has pertuated a mysterand mythurroun ng americaneath cul re. myse, you,ost ybody th i k no s neveexperiend a homefuneraor a natur bur ia ey don knohow to dit beuse no o's offerg it. d they'rnot offeng it because doesn'tro fit the neral instry thas crted this method th 's made thea lot ofon ey.

and i'planned whollife to is perso this fural dictor thacared fopeop lebut i ju was lik there'sot to ba betteray to do his. cca steven who is e foder of mdalene house and thise farms, d she's also the epispal prie over he at snt augusne's chapel,she cas me andhe sa, i unde tand thatou have rticularintere in natul bu ri d end-ofife pracces d how to me those tt er. and th she said,an we talk? we formea nonprot calledlarkspur cservation, w hich you have paperwork for in front of you.we areetting o to create the state's fit conser tion rial grod, whichis esstially aat ure preservemuch likradnor lake, whe you ca alsobe laid r est. have a 5-acre tct of ld in sumr co unthat wre purching fi t. this parcular land wilprob ly e a quarr, if noa thir for actl buri . threst wil left complete natur

. d we wilcreate an open green sp e, place e entireroject der conserva on anit will protted forever. sohose peoe that are laid to rest there and buried t here don't have to be embalmed, they d on't have to spend excessive money on an expensive metal cask et no vaults are allowed, no metal caskets, no foreign materi als or contaminants are allo wed. people are laid to rest like they alw ays have been roughoutisto ry. d your by has onlast purpose th's very lu able and can lp save land for yourommuni . a t of peoplealwa say, we, i'mjust goi to be cmated cause i n't wa to te up spa when i die. ll, thiss the ki of king up ace that g ood.so we' using aually over my ad bod - you've hrd that ra se-- over my body,xactlywe're ing to se this land.

[dtant cs and ds playing] becca hathe ea, prinpally,for wh larkspu is. - yeah. - yowere justhe firs personhe reach out tory to ma it happ, or-- she had ready ared the dea wi don andara and na. and en they reacd outo me asom eonewho acally hadindust experienceand coulbe someby that cld physally runhe opera on yoknow whai me an i el like was totly kiet and uversal a j ust divine.you know? [bir chirp g] - thnatural rial servici attendthey we closero the death.do you kw what i ean? ere wasn't a that diance ere wasn fake grass, there wasn'tolding c irs. itas like were prent d the bo

was rig the re d the counity wa ableo come c ser. that's auge spiritual be fit. i an, i doelieve that lovnever es and all at we lo in person dsn d ie. t you arstill ieving a ot. d so to ve the ality tohave t communi participate anbe closei think lps ople in e first eks, espeally aft a death. - i fi what hes the grieverocessre probaytwo thin gs. onis just beinreal meaning t buryg my se in lanage that medil, not buryingys elf in theechnicalies of what going ohere or ere but st to beeal e way i uld lk to a iend, my husband,y kids aut j us the ality ofhe suationand sotimes ju how crummyt

is. ctors t on ite coat we tr really hd to putn our me fa, not r any otr re as but becae that'sow wee been tin ed. ani think 's imrtant fope ople be ableo see th thisffects u too. because ief is connecti to othepeop le and i thk that ges pele some an ing. d i thinthe otr thing griefs no rm d it's healthy rction tobeing ab to dealith a loss. ani think ife preten that oy weak p ple grieve a strong ople jus tougit out a are f e, i think 're alsomissinthe boat. it a normareacti .i mean, we tch our ks-- en theirrandfather my father-in-l passed ay-- it ok to b sad. wee celebring who he iand 's ok tbe sad i fronof each her beuse it's functioof how much tt pers meanto you. d that'sust anormalart of life.and i ink peop sometim forg the norlcy in that. - well, there's a book out there called smoke in your eye and her and john

kind of followed the same prem ise that death needs to be real to peo ple. we've made it such a sanitary t hing that people will not-- now won't even take days off from work to come to a funer al. life needs to stop for a little bit for folks to grie ve. with her, smoke in your eyes talks about different thin gs suchs seeing person unembal med, in their natural f orm. a lot of people don't see th at. a lot of people see thatfter w ve pumped them full of embalming fluid and put them in tir nicest clothes and put them in a cask et. [wind and canoise] ruck enge]

- so othe righ here i178 acre of lds that e natu conservcy o wn - knn as tayr hollowstate naral ar a clasii statescientic natur a rea.it's o of the st biiverse areas in tennessee. it is knowfor its olific wildflow population. seral endaered ecies flrish there. - here'shere wre gog to be rning . jo christi alwayswants go fartr fi rs and our nd does n do to the ad h ere and for other 20or 30yards,p the ad th the cek runni into it. - all thithrough re.

in 1998,y grdfather ed, and s moved the experience. d i wento the neral ho that summer and hung out on the evening of a thunderst orm because the embalmer had called and s aid, if you're considering potentia lly being a funeral director, you sh ould come join me when i embalm someone to make sure that you can handle it. i met him and we went into the basement of the funeral ho me. i watched this gentleman be embal med. and the electrical storm killed all the power halfway thro ugh. and all you could hear was water running down the porcelain table while this man's blood was being drai ned. that was my first experience with some one being emlmed or ing ose to aead rs on. and rit after that, i gan workg part time at the feral h e.and th fall, iwas 1998 i went into mortuary col lege nashvil, tennese at a college

lled jn a. gupton anended up worng at stockdalmalin inam den, to care ofamily members,rien ds neighbor old age, trac de at u name t. i ved abovthe funel homefter graduat io i moved and creed my o environ nt. i evenemember ving friends o lost cld ren d they, ter havi a vitation a seeg the dy and beindownstai withhe pub c,i remeer thecoming uto my apartme to justre athe anlet it a go.i was attockdalealin r a few ars. and the company that owned the funeral homeasked o transfer to xon, tenssee, which waa small town betwe camdennd nashv le. and i s the prary pers th did a of the balm in antook carof all the bodies and

nt out oall the fun als. again,he company at i word for d a posion for aeed foa funeradire ct anembalmern nashvi lle. and i ded uptakinghat posi on. d i rked in shvill for abt seven ars, probly, befo takingmyeap of f th. - i've bn able twork ongside m for ny years i ickly proted himonto o leadersp te amhe reay had il a stng reput ion of being a great embal mer. and then when he started seeing families and ma king arngementsthe spect gr even re fohow wellound he is that, noonly is talen din helng with e care o the ved one emselv li the embalming and prepat ion, but so with beg ab to sefamili

to help em throu theijour ne and noeverybodthat's iour pression iable to b oth and do themell,nd he is.when hserves afamilyhe does not look at it as setting service times, writing an obitua ry having a fily sect a rvice anmerchandise. takes ifar beyo t hat. and th's one othe thin that've alwa respe ed anadmireabout him.he loo for thehings th meanomethi to thfami ly it the sma things that make the biggest impact and it mns the most. there waa rvice that he d had for young gi that hapassed ay and s loved pnces s.and he gavher a incess fer al. it w just sothing that uld takeour breath a wa when someone would come in to the visitati on literally, she was like a sleeping princ ess. he took so much time in setting everything up. and that's the service that i can say that i will al ways remember and i associate john

christian with beca use of what he gave to the parents that have had such a tragic loss of a ch ild. everybody's life you leave a lega cy. and john christian has always looked for what their legacy is and what would help their family remember that leg acy but also have that healthy jour ney that it takes to be able to put one foot in front of the o therafter sing someone close to y ou. [sber mu c] - i me, the mari of e good sff that ve seenis alonghis way,here weame thatay w he the wer linecut through.it's reay good rht throh here a right p inere and en arounthis waand thenind ofp in h e. anthen uin here,t's really uhigh andid gy. d you rember up here, it's higand

ridg too. but there'possibilies foburial tre t oo meow restotion isthe fun rt, and ople li flowersnd stu . sohe oppornity to able thave opeme adow bual witwildflers owing th in the tuat io whe weould do burn offor we uld do aontrol d burnr bring gos to eat ff-- - thgoats arpretty fun. - --thbad stufevery ar the's a loof natur bur ia grounds at are dng t ha anfrom wt i'veundersod, ey gea lot ofood prs about it. - yeah. - ey're li, oh, t's takethe ki to the ats and fun stuflike tt, but a way.blue-eyemary gro all alg that wer way, all e y down i fronof our ppe rty. that's cool. i noticed at whenwe werthere th d ay. i'm justmazed th this maybe the oy entrance to taylorholl

. - i thk it i iteally isrotected.- ye ah. - are you apehensi abouanythinggoing in this et ing? no - nope. - what areou filmi? - i dot kn ow mei gu es we're woing on documenry ov a threeear proc ess. - re ly?- ye . interesting. - sw t.ye .have a gd one. than . - wee making-- i should he said porn. po-- you suld see at's ing on ithe back eat.- [laughs] - i think ally theain rpose ofoday's m tingis justo talabout this a ltle re. we actuay thoughthat keepingur 25 acs down tords the ad, thatt's going to

aually ve you guysasier acss paicularlyp in acrs he re- ye . - ye ah - 'll workt out on instd of goi back li t hat- yeahit goes re that way. - mm mm. - d i woullike to take this to ddy's la er.i reallyant yo all toave it thisas goty father'sname wrien all or it. - ye ah- he didt rant ahole lo but if u had erheard hion the feral dust and allhat bune ss he-- - , that'sweso me oh, you ver ld us th p art. - ll, he w from robertsoco unand saw ople frothe ti he was small child be bically pyed on by people who dithat sorof thi . and just alwaysgot alover h . anhe wouldlways rer to meteriess

skull orchar ds he wld say whaa wasteof good al est e. - wellhe soundlike a n after own heart. - well, ah. absolutely.- th woulde gr eai woullove t t. - yes. - all ght. [cous] i don't ow if weeed do a bipublic cpaign. i don't ow. - te me whatou're thki ng. - i n't kn what m thinng excepwe're t gog to gett done t way 're thinng aboutoing itright w. you thi i'm wrg about at? - we've got abt six oreight ople whore wai ng fous to y... - 's on. - .it's a go.so they' been inking out thr pl an - ok didn't know. - and o else tget invo ed.- ok- and i thinkut ofhat grouof

six oro, i cou g over $5 000.mayb - - what coerns me that we're eier goingo hit around5 to 9 and en that's-- - xed ou- and en maybeou bui -- mean, mae we jushave o phasesf fundra ing. i dot kn ow bui'm justorried t t-- one han it doest soundlike aig numr to rai se buon the oer hand,it's aig numbeto rai . - thusiasms not do ars. - right. - ri t.- and 's only ter we make thesk for tse f ks that we art tting a nse of - whe we're ing to b - anhow hardt's goin to bor how dble it s. t we don know ti we tr [interpong voice - by sing this155

acres l and and purchasi it outright by the e of january, we wl havehe opptunity to creata shift the death culture thin ourcommity, hp pe op with a ls expense de of burial t also aore ndful mo of bu al ansaying gdbye the endf li fe i'so glad u all arhe re. i wantou to st and at wit meabouwhat natal buria is, abt what ime ans, out exactlwhat we' going be doin and allhe lit eidiosyrasi . wel start at conveat io how many people can yobury on is l an - on this particul propty, 5,000 to 10, 000. the idea is we're creating a nature pre rve. so t whole tng won'tbe usefor burials. iton't be de-to-si rowsf peopleith stones. it w't lookanythi like that.it'll like raor lakewhen

y're walkg al onthere y be an re herethat's ud for bu al an ae here ud for ri al.the id is, als our imary go is to se la nd we're sang land,lacing i undea consertion eas ent wi the nate conservay of ten ssee ornother le-mindedconsvation e ity. d we will eate morof the aftethe firs one. aftewe have thfunds to purcse this rst tr t, will beble to u the nds gene ted om each rial onhis property to savmore tras of lan arou the city,einfor ngthe treeanopy, e green ace, the plac where kidcan go just to in uttenatu re you can so hike l thugh tayl hol lo whh has lot of endanger wildflo rs.and i an, it'seally a beautil disp y. d en rightadjace to thatwh ich is pt of theeason wee interestedn this p rty,is thayou can st walk om onright ov to the her d aroundmaket a big lo

op so it's et ty. - til we he this ld, wee turninpeople awaythat areeaching t to ust the enof l if ying, myom just ed. and is is wh she wanted. and have toay, i'm rry. there's not place li this in tennsee ye [slow cello music] i can't just stop thinking about it. i'm constantly thinking about it. i have no lack of faith in what i'm inor theact that know i n dot and dot well and h pthe peop .it's jt the minutiae of how tmake s se of a keep yo sanit whilwaiting dea th w, if i d somebo ke anoth per so thatould wor about one d while i dn't wor about it, it wld be dier ent. i'be like,k, we, today, i'm off. i carelax a ttle bit ore. don't ha to be cpletelyconsum

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w ked athe funer h ome. d i'd on ever gin all my ener to th . and working fo at thatime, a corporation or company t hat was owned by people at i didn't reay know tt well but d goals their own. i felt like played an imptant r e the funal home,locay and heing people. t when y work a funer h ome anyou wo in a cetery, yo see pele's lives reflected everday inverythg you . and didn't wt to seey li reflect in the way at i sawt when ireallyooked it.i wantedo do somhing bigger. not biat disneworl big,ut big ia way at it afcted peoe, in th way it touch people'hear ts the way it changed people's experie nces while they were al ive. right before thanksgiving and christmas, i took a train. i took the train around the count ry. i wanted to ablutely t myselfut

of my ox pu myself yond normal mi ts i nt from mphis tohicago made mway throh minneapo lis anacross t norther stat to seate, then down to s francisco timately to s ange s. so iould sitown for lunch the tra, in therain c ani wod alwayse siing acro from so body that i dn't kn . ey wouldlways as wellwhat are ou doinon the t in? ere are u headed? and response was, ll, i ju quit my joband amrying too so soul sech ing and determe what'sn the other si of this rain trel andhis triphat i'mon whe i'm tryg, rea y, meet folklike y and fin out wh's impornt to ufor end l ife.becausi've onl everalked toeo plewho we in the thes of death and had had a loved one that had just di ed. i was trying to find out who i

was but also who they areand wh's impornt tohem and o it i anwhat'smportanto it. ing in l ife. wh is thisig thinghat 're all rticipat g in and we'rjust allalkingaloncomplant w it orre we? hon we actlly partipate this bi wild thg ca ll livend make positiveimpact othe wo dand r commun ies? if'd stayeat the feral me and s in the roomand soldaskets o of a ok and ts and that innd out ery dayi mighnot ha --i meani wouldn be wre i am now. [intersing v ces]- carter's not en seen e final inted copy. - awi love the fonalre ad- we p our hea togethe ancreatea poteial p of wt it cou be like. ain, y go throh anyou see r te am

anthen othe ck, our lunteer d donatenformation.i meanwhen yououch it,you' just li, wh oa thiss ni ce the peoplere for real.- do y want toave ese odd mb ers, oro you wa to rounth em? - well, at we liked wathe id of pple thinng in terms buying is a e. - -h mm. so it justeally so of reiorced th factthat ty're lping usuy t hi it's jt not sh ey can aua llythink about itn terms of-- - so thas $1,800to buyn ac re - --we kw we'd ve one p son. 1,80for itye . if we haa 10-acr soety, w d probly have re movement. t it'sind of small so ety.- well said. - my frien happyshe rks fows mv anshe's passnate about ouproj ec and she s actual alreadspokeno peop . e's likelet me know wn yo u'ready fothis to a newsstory beuse i wa to make it one.and we wt to be le to te the sty first news ch ne4, worki 4 y

ou we've go351 on o newstter list-- o ur-- - ail. - --email st. - anthey're l going g et--- theyill all ceive -- - to y. - when we hit. just askhem to pt it on eir face oks? - mm-h .- perfect. - this ithe emai blasthat wilgo ut.- awesome. - ess relee, videodonateand all our socl me di larkspuronservatn in mner couy tennese is a beautil park-like setting th hikintrails andic nic eas and,oon, ocsional bial pl s. it's parof a newartnersh with t nature nserva y, fering filies agreeneand chear way to l to restheir lov onesn protecd la nd itill be alace whe the ndill bereserv t the boes will go bk to d t.for npne ws. i'm y eskindn nashville. - image

being ried inyourrandmoth's q uilt inead of icask et is a ncept local noro fit isringing tenness for thfirst time. it's cald a tural bual ground. e goal is to preservereen spaces. developmt coin ues. natural rials, bthe y, are ao chea r. e typil funeracan cost morthan $15 00. the erage naral rial cos about $ 000. - johnhristianhifer the exetive dir tor of larpur consvaon and s wo rkas a feral dirtor in nnessee r about yea rs no he wantto coerve thi landand turnt into t sta's first green rial grod, w ha he cls a livg memorial. - we don use anychemals, we n't use any astics oconc tes. we don't p those things io the earth,especial in a nare prerve li we're cating soha t it don't hamp the ecost em. - phif is hopi to he the te up and nning byspringf next year.

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