>> welcome to "live from paris," will news analysis from france 24. life images from the elysees palace in paris where the ukrainian president is expected to arrive very shortly. he has touched down at the airport. it follows a day where he was in london where he asked directly for fighter jets to be supplied to his country in its quest to repel the russian invasion. nothing is off the table. britain is going to train

ukrainian pilots. some are interpreting this as a possibility the jet will be supplied at some future point to ukraine. the meeting with macron taking place in paris shortly. the german chancellor will be joining our reporter. a little boy pulled alive from the ruins by rescuers as the death toll in southern turkey and northwest syria stands at 12,000. cases of death from hypothermia are reported in extreme cold. the international effort to help the people affected by the earthquake continues. that response is flooding into the region affected. ukraine is sending help, but there's growing concern on the ground that the help is yet to reach those who need it.

thank you very much for being with us. we can tell you that volodymyr zelenskyy has landed at paris and is on towards the alize palace -- and these a palace -- the elysees palace toward the center. this is seen as an important meeting towards what happens next in ukraine's fight to repel the russian aggression on its soil. earlier, zelenskyy asked u.k. for fighter jets. the ukrainian president addressed the british parliament in person and told them freedom will win, russia will lose. zelenskyy met with king charles iii and thanked them for support for ukrainian refugees. he also addressed parliament, speaking in westminster, the

oldest part of the house of parliament, a place last seen in september for the lighting in state of queen elizabeth. after talks with the u.k. prime minister, it emerged british would be training ukrainian pilots on nato standard fighter jets. this is being interpreted as a sign that those jets may well follow and be supplied to ukraine at some future point. rishi sunak cryptically saying nothing is off the table. as we say, zelenskyy is now in paris on his way to the alize -- alize palace. this meeting, as we said, includes the german chancellor, olaf scholz, who has already agreed to supply the highest standard of battle tanks, the leopard to ukraine. let's go to berlin for some reaction. our correspondent joins us live. any signs on what the german

chancellor's president at the meeting might mean? >> germany has been criticized a lot for its hesitation to send nks. a few weeks ago, scholez so germany promised to tanks but also two days ago, he said there would be 178 leopard 1 tanks sent to your crime so germany takes a long time to make decisions, but once it does, it is supporting ukraine, and ukraine knows that. it look at what germany sent, within the european union, it is the biggest donor of weapons. what the presence of olaf scholz means tonight is a show of solidarity and unity. solidarity with ukraine, unity

with france when it comes to delivering weapons, when it comes to promising perhaps new weapons. you mentioned earlier the way that u.k. has said fighter jets are off the table, and now it seems to be considered. we've come a long way. at the very beginning, olaf scholz with germany pledged only to deliver 5000 helmets at the very beginning of the full-scale war. now, it has come such big long way. i think fighter jets might be a bit far-fetched for germany now, but maybe they will announce that they will train pilots the way the u.k. has done and the way they are already training tanks drivers in germany right now. >> in terms of what else germany can provide, is there any indication from where you are that this could be expanded in

some way. you mentioned training. is that something seriously we will see develop, do you think? >> it has recently developed. in light of the criticism that germany suffered when it came to its hesitation, the first thing that was promised was the training of ukrainian soldiers, but germany also pledged 12 billion euros in total last year, and it has said that it would do exactly the same in 2023 when it comes to humanitarian help and when it comes also to injecting -- you know helping the ukrainian state to simply get by and also in terms of logistics when it comes to supplying ukraine with generators because it's electric infrastructure is destroyed by the constant shelling, so germany delivers a -- germany

delivers weapons, of course, but not only humanitarian aid, logistics, this is something germany is very keen on having ukraine on. >> emmanuel macron, obviously, hosting volodymyr zelenskyy, who is the guest of honor. thank you very much. we, of course, are waiting for volodymyr zelenskyy to arrive at the alize -- the elysee. i can tell you outside, there is a guard of honor waiting for the arrival of ukraine's president. let's move onto the situation on the border between turkey and syria. rescuers continue to pull people alive from the rubble in the aftermath of the earthquake. a small boy in it good was

dragged out of the ruins of his home in northwestern syria. a small miracle. but the picture overall is bleak. over 12,000 people are confirmed dead so far. gin the scale of the devastation, theeath toll to rise. our reporter is near the epicenter of the quake. >> there is still hope. we've been told here rescuers believe there are four people still alive behind me. that's why they are working late into the night here to try and rescue those people. there are moments where we are all told to be quiet because they are listening to see if they can hear anybody speaking, anybody making any noises, anybody moving beneath the

rubble. the hope is we can add more people to the number pulled from the rubble. that number stands at a little over 8000 people, but as you say, the clock is ticking. for the survivors, i would say the mood is, of course, in one way, relief that some have survived, but quickly, the relief is starting to turn to anger. there is immense frustration at what seems to be a very slow, delayed response by governmental authorities, particularly in rural areas. we were in a village, a farming village, a little earlier on today, and people there telling us it is effectively a local effort to try and keep people alive, really. they are giving food to each other. there are small, local ngo's

operating in an area giving things like oil and bread, but in terms of a state response, they say they have not seen anything yet, and what they have is not nearly enough. people are sleeping in their cars for the most part, in vans. they don't have heating. no heating is provided by those local ngo's. they have a little bit of bread and nothing else. the anger is starting to rise, not only because there was, as we have been reporting, this devastating earthquake in turkey in 1999 and after that earthquake, the turkish gornment said it would not be the same should there be another earthquake here. more money was poured in, taxpayer money, as you pointed out, to the tune of about 3 billion euros to try to put in better organizations. people saying here today, where has that money gone? clearly, for now, particularly in these rural areas, it is not

reaching the people most in need. mark: let's bring in for some analysis -- the associate presser -- professor in staffordshire in england. we know the death toll is over 12,000, and sadly, that is set to rise. may i start by asking you about the issue of giving aid to the people, the readiness for this kind of situation? we know turkey sits on a tectonic plate that often moves. >> when you look at the situation in turkey, you would expect to see a country that has experienced a very rapid rate of economic development over the

last 20 years and would be slightly more prepared for earthquake, given the fact that if you do look at the history of turkey over the last few hundred years, earthquake is not anything uncommon in the country , but if you don't mind, let me shift my focus a little bit to syria. at least despite the shortcomings in turkey, there is an international coordinated plan to do something in the region and rescue people, but when you cross the border, you see completely a different reality. of course, an earthquake of this magnitude within any kind of urban environment would be absolutely disastrous, but you only have to imagine, you are dealing with a region, with a country that has gone through civil wars in the living memory, the existing infrastructure is

epically battered beyond recognition. even before the earthquake, this specific earthquake, in cities like aleppo because of the war. most of the buildings were extremely unstable. for example in january, a building because of basically the legacies of the war, simply collapsed. there is a shortage of energy. there are gas shortages. there are fuel shortages. these roads obviously no longer functional, so the situation is problematic, particularly in the

idlib region. i need to remind viewers that it is one of the few remaining areas which is still not under the control of the assad regime, so obviously, it makes the situation millions of times more complicated when it comes to any kind of international effort or rescue. when it comes to any kind of international effort for humanitarian aid. automatically makes the situation very challenging for any kind of rescue effort. mark: idlib, just to remind people watching, is the place where that young boy was pulled out of the wreckage of his home by men wearing white helmets. the syrian defense group as they call themselves. what you have been describing really is this double tragedy, sort of a parallel tragedy going on because we have had the earthquake strike, and we also have had the ongoing conflict with the assad regime.

as you say, that part of syria, which is not under his control. >> absolutely, and right now, what makes me particularly worried that the syrian regime might use this kind of disastrous situation, might use basically the suffering that we see in idlib as an opportunity to kind of reposition themselves militarily in the region. the fact that a lot of people are very worried about basically the outcome of these earthquakes and the many after shakes they may experience in the near future, they also have to be worried about basically the new tactics and the new my notice of the syrian regime.

obviously, canceling the sanctions against the murderous regime of bashar assad is not a good solution. this regime is responsible for extreme violations of human rights over the last 13 years. we don't know the exact numbers, but certainly over half a million people were killed and millions of people have been displaced, so we should not actually provide any opportunity. mark: if those sanctions are relaxed, that would not cnge anything as they would just benefit from the sanctions being relaxed. >> absolutely. the way i look at it is that the syrian regime is looking at this disastrous situation as a blessing in disguise. they may use the opportunity to militaristic lake --

militaristically reposition themselves, and at the same time, they may be able to get some concessions. i believe the cancellation of any of these european sanctions is not going to have any meaningful impact on the situation on the ground. it is only going to empower the syrian regime. i suppose the ultimate question is -- how can we provide some humanitarian aid to the people who are affected? there are millions of refugees. everything we are talking about, one of the most impoverished areas in the world, and the majority of people are living in these kind of refugee camps. they are not even sure when their next meal is going to come from. about 91% of the population directly depends upon international aid. what i suggest is that there has

to be something. i do not think the cancellation of the sanctions is going to be good, and certainly it will not be fair to millions who have been fighting the syrian regime over the last 30 years, but at the same time, the international community has to do more in order to make sure that humanitarian aid is reaching these people through the only border crossing that is now available through turkey. there is really a will by the international community. mark: thank you for that clear and cogent analysis of the situation. we appreciate your time. professor of middle east politics in staffordshire in north-central england. let's show you images at the elysee, where we have the

imminent arrival of volodymyr zelenskyy. we have word that he has left the airport and is arriving in central paris, where he is expected to meet with the french president, emmanuel macron, and german chancellor, all of schulz -- olaf scholz. they will be discussing the situation in ukraine. zelenskyy earlier told t united kingdom's prime minister in a meeting with london -- in a meeting in london that he needed either jets -- fighter jets to repel russian forces. rishi sunak did not say yes but said nothing is off the table. we can tell you the u.k. is to train ukraine pilots in how to handle nato standard jets. some are reading into that that this means jets will be provided at some later stage for use in

combat. this is speculation. we do know the training of the pilots will take pla. britain has said it will be doing this training for ukrainian pilots. at the moment, we are waiting for volodymyr zelenskyy to arrive at the elysee. he is expected to have talks and dinner with emmanuel macron. the guard standing five for the arrival of ukraine's residence. these, the famous steps of the elysee palace. gathered press, of course. that's emmanuel macron coming down the steps. we are expecting volodymyr zelenskyy to appear at any moment. germany, of course, has agreed to supply leopard 2 tanks to ukraine. this was something which pumped a lot of pressure from many of germany's allies to whom germany had supplied tanks, notably

poland, who wanted to supply their tanks to ukraine. after a lot of pressure and consideration, germany is actually going to send hardware of that sort to ukraine for ukraine to use. france, of course, is involved on the number of levels trying to support ukraine militarily, and one can expect this conversation over dinner with volodymyr zelenskyy, just arriving now into the courtyard at the elysee palace, dressed in his military fatigues, as he has been since the outbreak of the battle february 24 of last year. greeted by emmanuel macron on the steps of the elysee. macron with a hand on zelenskyy's shoulder, a warm

welcome. typical of the french president. the warmth between the two men, especially intense given the situation zelenskyy is facing back in his homeland with the russian troops pressing, and it is believe gathering in the east, a push perhaps even to the capital, kyiv, which was putin's original objective back in february last year. putin -- macron shaking hands with volodymyr zelenskyy. the three men will pose for gathered media, including france 24 before withdrawing into the elysee for those talks and dinner, which will clearly go on for some hours. zelenskyy expected to travel to brussels tomorrow to speak to the european union. this very much a precursor of that, given the standing of

france and germany within the eu structure. volodymyr zelenskyy now inside the elysee. we will be crossing to our correspondent who is there to see if he has picked up any echoes as to what is being said in this all-important meeting. just to remind you, zelenskyy earlier today was in london where he spoke with rishi sunak and met king charles iii and thank him for britain's role in caring for ukrainian refugees since the outbreak of the invasion last year. he then addressed the british parliament in the oldest part of the houses of commons, last seen by the public when queen elizabeth ii was lying in state. leaders will give, we hope, some kind of a briefing, either before or after their talks, and

we are waiting for that to happen. when it does, we will continue live because their words, all-important on this momentous occasion. we are waiting for this to happen. the situation, we can tell you, is that volodymyr zelenskyy, of ukraine, is at the elysee meeting with emmanuel macron, the french president, and german chancellor olaf scholz. we know that both france and germany are backing ukraine as far as they possibly can. clearly, it has been the united kingdom that has led the way. the united states, of course, worldwide has led the way in backing ukraine so far, but clearly, there are issues related to tank technology. the leopard 2 is the most high combat vehicle in the world today, and we understand from

analysis and questions and interviews we have done over the weeks that the leopard 2 is something russian tanks cannot penetrate. what we are waiting for here is to hear what the leaders have to say, and we are expecting volodymyr zelenskyy to make a further appeal to both president macron and chancellor scholz for more aid. let's listen in. >> thank you, ladies and gentlemen, mr. president, mr. chancellor. thank you for being here. does everyone have interpretation? i am happy to welcome you to the elysee palace.

we have been here before. in 2019, i came here and it was also in november of that year that we had a meeting between ukraine, germany, and france. the format enabled us to make some advances before the worst occurred. i want to thank chancellor scholz for joining us so we can express support for you and our will to accompany ukraine towards victory, towards peace, and towards europe. thank you very much. just one year ago, we were in kyiv, and we were making our best effort to dissuade russia

from waging war in ukraine. we were telling you that we were committed to you and your country for peace and security. we thank you very much for being here in paris this evening so that we can tell you and that so -- and so that you can share with us the confidence that we would like to express with regard to the future of your country. the people of ukraine, its armed forces and its president to have tremendous courage in the face of the army. this is why we are standing strongly by ukraine with the determination to accompany you to victory and in the recovery of your legitimate rights. what is happening in ukraine

engages the future of europe, and we are fully aware of that. reestablishing the rights of ukraine is important to all of us in the world who are working for peace, international security, and international order. the visit you are making here in paris is an opportunity for us to contribute to ukraine and its people because your courage and lucidity have been very impressive throughout this last year. we would like to tell you that we stand staunchly behind you. we must defend ideas that are most simple and essential. ukraine can count on france and its european partners to win this war. russia cannot and must not win this war. as long as russia will continue to attack, we will continue to adapt and modulate the necessary

military support to preserve ukraine and its future. in the same way as we have acted for the past few weeks and we have delivered new military material, we will continue to follow these operationsgggggà!

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