mark: you're watching ellis p." these are the headlines -- watching "live from paris." these are the headlines. ukraine's president happy for the chance to speak with is ally, and in this bulletin, we discuss what it could mean. biden with his south korean counterpart talking the potential threat from north korea. biden called the washington -seoul relationship and ironclad alliance. evacuations continue from sudan. many are making their way to egypt. those who have reached chat

experiencing a shortage of food and water. more to come "live from paris." ♪ thank you very much for being with us. volodymyr zelenskyy says he had a long and meaningful phone call this wednesday between the president of the ukraine and his chinese counterpart, xi jinping. it is the first such contact since russia launched its invasion in february of last year. james mahal and with this -- james mulholland with this. what's opening a of communication. on wednesday, ukraine's

president phoned his chinese counterpart, xi jinping. the pair spoke for nearly an hour in a first since russia's invasion of ukraine. zelenskyy said the call was long and meaningful and that he believed it, as well as an appointment of ambassador to china, will give a powerful start to relations. china's 12-point peace plan was met with skepticism by the west but celebrated by kyiv. >> dialogue and negotiation is the only viable way out. a nuclear war would produce no wind. we need to seize this opportunity and create favorable condition for the political

settlement of the crisis. >> the phone call is seen as a potentially significant development in efforts to end the war. the kremlin commended china's approach. france said it backed all dialogue at finding peace. the united dates set it welcome to the call but said it remained to be seen what would come of it. mark: looking at going back to discuss more on this program here live from paris. next, u.s. president joe biden on the south korean leader held talks at the white house. they say it was too deep in collaboration deterring north korean nuclear exploration. biden has described the relationship between the u.s. and south korea as an ironclad alliance.

the south korean leader appeared to direct criticism that china and russia. >> our two leaders have decided to significantly strengthen extended deterrence against north korea's nuclear missile threats so that we can achieve peace through the superiority of our armed forces and not a false peace based on the goodwill of the other side. >> at the same time, we continue to seek serious diplomatic breakthroughs to bolster stability on the peninsula, reduce the threat of proliferation and threats to our humanitarian and human rights concerns. mark: let's go to washington with our correspondent there life. good evening. an ironclad alliance, says biden, to the -- between the u.s. and south korea. tell us more about that. >> the sentiment echoed by the president of south korea, who

set about this alliance that it is not a transactional alliance. it is and alliance of values and everlasting partnership. strong words from both presidents as they met for a long bilateral, which lasted way longer than we had expected, so quite a bit between these two men to discuss as they try to really strengthen that alliance between the united states and south korea, celebrating 70 years of that partnership, and part of that strengthening of the alliance was the signature of this new washington declaration, a new nuclear deterrence plan that included things that are very important for south korea. one being the presence, possibly the visits, the americans call it, of a nuclear armed u.s. submarine in the korean

peninsula, something that has not happened in about four decades. that is something included in that washington declaration. it is called and expanded deterrence plan. there will be more close coordination's, sharing of information when it comes to a nuclear operation to strategic operations. the presidential consultation in the case of a nuclear threat as well as the creation of a nuclear, consultative group, so, really, everything to sort of strengthen the partnership between the two countries but also the sharing of information. this washington declaration also insisting on one strong point, the renewed commitment by south korea to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty. this was very important to the americans. they are showing that they are

committed to defending south korea, but they wanted the south koreans to show their commitment to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty. mark: i'm wondering how great a threat these two leaders actually see in the behavior of north korea. can you tell us about that? >> yes, this whole washington declaration is a response to the growing threat from north korea, something that both the south korean president and the u.s. president clearly stated. this was really a way for the u.s. to reassure south korea that the u.s. would indeed help out the south koreans in case north korea were to attack their southern neighbors, and that was very important because they south korean leader hinted earlier in the year at the possibility his country was starting to maybe develop their

own nuclear weapons. that is something the u.s. does not want, and i will wrap with this, a statement by joe biden warning to pyongyang, a nuclear attack biden with korea on the united states or its allies -- a nuclear attack by north korea on the united states or its allies is unacceptable. mark: thank you very much indeed. let's bring in an associate professor in east asian warfare and strategy at king's college in london. we are here to speak to you regarding the situation between volodymyr zelenskyy and xi jinping. we have had to move around a little bit to fit things in in the logistics of this bulletin, so we are going back to the phone call between volodymyr zelenskyy and xi jinping. i put it to you -- how significant could this call prove to be?

>> enormously significant because the chinese have been saying since the beginning that they are neutral when it comes to the war. in practical terms, they were very actively neutral in the sense that the proximity with russia and the economic ties as a result of the sanctions of pressure, it places china in a not so neutral space. if you were paying attention to how the narrative of the war is presented in chinese media, it was clearly the russian perspective, so this does signal in many ways a change of attitudes. china now wants to have a direct line of communication with zelenskyy. we know that kyiv will now have an ambassador to china.

this might create a better way for xi jinping to understand the two sides and perhaps move a little further down the line of what programs russia -- pro-russia neutrality to a more equidistant place, not necessarily equidistant, but less tilting to one side as it is now. mark: vladimir putin is considered to be his ally. there's talk of china supplying things that it says it is not supplying to russia. arms is primarily what we're talking about, i suppose. what is in it for china to -- in beginning to establish some kind of relationship for ukraine? >> think you made a very important point. the key concern is to try to get a sense of how far the chinese

are indirectly supporting the russians. you made a good point about the component leading to russian capabilities but also the financial support, so that's one thing. from a chinese perspective, xi jinping has been trying to portray himself as an international mediator. i think he wants to try to push that. his original plan was not really a plan, is really everything under the sun. i think he wants to move a bit further down the line with that, and he needs to have communication directly with ukrainians if he wants to try to have a more serious role. we know that because one of the main criticisms of the plan itself was that it had no element for ukraine.

if xi jinping is serious about having that international role, he needs to have that communication. the other element is economic in trying to establish a relationship that in the long term might very well create opportunities. certainly xi jinping does not want to close the door on that. xi jinping cannot close that door. there is that element because it also leaves europe moment where there is the highest level of skepticism, so that symbolism, the diplomatic opportunities are three elements why xi jinping sees this opportunity as something relevant to his agenda. mark: indeed, there are opportunities there. a point to be exploded --

exploited in ukraine. i'm wondering lastly, what effect will this have on the russia-china axis? what effect will this have in moscow? >> that is an excellent question. i would think xi jinping would play both sides tune extent. there's an interest in understanding better what the ukrainian position is on the subject of any sort of settlement with russia, but any type of information of this kind might help the chinese better negotiate with russians what would be an end state that possibly could be acceptable to all parties in the game and see xi jinping consolidate an international role, and xi jinping is already in a position of strength when it comes to pressure, so in that respect, the russians are already in a slightly weaker position, and anything that xi jinping can gain from the ukrainians would

only strengthen that position vis-a-vis russia, which in turn would make any orbiting through the russians a sort of way out, so consolidating this came as the senior member of that sort of bilateral dynamic, there is a marriage of convenience with a lot of alignment. >> as ever, thank you for joining us. we appreciate your time. associate professor in east asian warfare and strategy in the department of war studies at king's college london. thank you very much indeed for your reaction. let's turn to the latest from sudan. it is day two of the u.s.-brokered 72-hour cease-fire. we hear there is talk of an extension. sudanese people are still trying to leave the country. families amassing at the border crossing with egypt, desperately

trying to escape the violence. they have in some cases weighted with little food or shelter. chad has already seen refugees arrived to a shortage of food, water, and shelter. fighting broke out on april 15. our correspondent is in neighboring djibouti. >> the united kingdom sent planes that the french used two days ago, and it is looking 20 kilometers north of khartoum, and it is a difficult operation to organize because the u.k. has many citizens in khartoum at the moment. many sudanese. it is impossible for the british army to send troops within the city center to rescue all of them, so the only solution is that civilians reach the base on their own, crossing the

checkpoints by themselves. a very risky operation. evacuation operations were also growing in the northern city of port sudan located next to the red sea. many boats came, including 500 who were taken on board a french navy boat and are now in saudi arabia. let's also mentioned all the sudanese still stranded in khartoum. millions are suffering lack of food and lack of water, and they can still not leave the house, their apartments. >> the development coming out of sudan. next, business. kate moody joins us. disney has escalated its long-running battle with the state of florida. tell us more. >> it has filed a lawsuit against the governor and presumed presidential candidate

ron desantis, accusing him of violating the company's constitutional rights. in a filing in federal court, the walt disney company says it regrets having to take this step, but having exhausted efforts to seek a resolution, it's as it is left with no choice to put -- but to protect cast members, guests, and developers from what it describes as a villainous campaign to weaponize government power against disney in retaliation for stressing a political viewpoint unpopular with state officials. this goes back to ron desantis' support of a bill that bans discussion of sexual orientation or gender identity in primary schools across florida. disney has sharply criticized that law. dissent is first try to dissolve the special tax district that has allowed disney to essentially self govern its florida theme parks since the governor then tried to replace disney's board with his own hand-picked members. disney is florida's single

biggest employer and has some 75,000 workers. its theme parks are the state's biggest tourist attraction. the legal battle could have applications on the campaign trail as well. dissent is as expected to launch a bid for the republican presidential nomination -- ron desantis is expected to launch a bid for the republican presidential nomination in the coming weeks. regulators in the u.k. say they will not allow microsoft to buy gaming company activision blizzard. the competition and markets authority said the merger would have given microsoft too much clout in the fast-growing cloud gaming market, leading to reduced innovation and less choice for u.k. gamers. that's because activision blizzard owns some of the most lucrative franchises in the gaming industry, including call of duty, world of warcraft, candy crush, and guitar hero. the concern is that microsoft could restrict access to those and other titles to gamers who use its own xbox consoles to the

detriment of rivals like nintendo and sony playstation. microsoft had offered to strain those titles across those platforms for a temporary period as it tried to convince regulators around the world to sign off on the deal, but it was not enough. >> in gaming, microsoft is the market leader, and even though that is a smaller market, it is one that is at a critical stage where it is just starting to take off, and potentially that will become a huge platform in the future, and therefore, it would be a risk to competition to strengthen microsoft's position in that market where they are already leading. >> both activision and microsoft has had -- have said they will appeal the decision in the u.k. let's check in on the day's

trading action now. a mixed picture on wall street. shares of activision blizzard down 11%. microsoft was actually up 7% because of stronger-than-expected earnings, and that helped the nasdaq at the close. we saw the dow jones and s&p 500 drag down by shares of first republic bank, which lost a further 30% following tuesday's 50% slide. authorities and other banks are in talks to help stabilize the litter after it revealed customers had withdrawn $100 billion -- help stabilize the lender. major european indices closing lower. the european union has agreed on a deal to set binding targets to the carbonates the aviation sector by forcing airlines to use more sustainable biofuel. flights taking off from you airports will have to run with

at least 2% sustainable fuel mix with kerosene starting in 20 25. that threshold will gradually be increased to 20% in just over a decade and 70% by 2050. the eu will also start assigning flights and eco-label corresponding to its carbon footprint. aviation accounts for just over 2.5% of global co2 emissions. this seems one of the most challenging sectors to turn green, partly because of the high cost of that biofuel as well as the energy needed for planes to safely take off, cruise, and then land. that's all the business news for now. >> as ever, great to see you. thank you so much for now. let's go truthing or faking. artificial intelligence -- i suppose this could be the ultimate truth or fake. tell us more.

>> we are aware, especially in the past few weeks, of the power of artificial intelligence in generating fake content, but today, the discussion is a bit different. it is on history photos created using artificial intelligence, one of which won an award recently. here is the photo. we see these two women side-by-side. this image won the 2023 sony world photography award, created by a german artist who refused this prize. the reason, because the photo, if we can call it that, was created using artificial intelligence. here is his refusal statement on the prize where he says he hopes with this refusal to open the debate on what we want to consider photography and whatnot and if the umbrella photography is large enough to invite artificial intelligence to enter

this category or if this would be a mistake. that's the debate. mark: how do you tell the real ones from the artificial intelligence once? right now, i have not got a clue. >> that is obviously a big part of the debate. this photo is an exception to the hundreds of photos generated by ai, sometimes used to spread ultra viral fake information online. this post is from april 6, together with this video. this is said to be rare footage from an unknown private film collection that supposedly shows objects and engine devices that were discovered and then taken away during the nazi expeditions in egypt and antarctica. these were created using artificial intelligence, but we found the original video in this

account called infinite odyssey that specializes in science fiction, fantasy, and horror and fully created using artificial intelligence, which you see the post right here, and we can also see the original post where they clarify that this information was written by ai and that this is not real information, so a transparent disclaimer, but this is not always the case. then we have a second example real quick, this large horse with the caption, a large horse. this was chaired over 10,000 times on facebook and was supposed to be an april fools' day joke. of course, many people took it literally. for example, this user, who posted the photo and says the colossal equine is majestic, the breed known for its imposing size and strength. a clear example of a simple joke that was put out of context using an image that was

generated by artificial intelligence. mark: if it is a real one, it could win the grand national, the famous horse race which takes place where i come from, but alas, i don't think it is a real horse. tell us the historian's perspective. >> are your team spoke to a dutch historian who specializes in verifying fake historical images. she runs a twitter and spoke to us about the dangers of artificial intelligence and history. let's listen to what she had to say. >> it makes it a bit harder because it is so easy to make. the internet is flooded with pki features -- fake ai features. they are starting to look more and more real. it is difficult for people to be critical and think, hang on, is this real or not?

i'm getting a lot more work, people asking if this is a real photo. >> as she said, the internet is flooded with fake pictures that start looking more and more real, more difficult to detect. hopefully, we will be able to debunk them all for you. mark: if you think about how history up to now has been twisted by certain people toward certain ends, imagine what they could have done if they had ai technology. the threat is massive and we have to all be aware of it. thank you very much. thanks to kate moody for the business as always. and thanks for watching wherever you are. stay with us. more to come here live from paris. ♪ >> people and profit. your business show that goes beyond the numbers and the corporate jargon. understand everything related to

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