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d>> this is dw news live from berlin. were crimes injustice, ukraine's president calls for tribunals. he says russian president vladimir putin responsible for crimes in ukraine at most be held accountable. the european union warning russia not to use a drone attack on the kremlin as a pretext to escalate the war in ukraine.
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growing fears of a wider humanitarian crisis as people flee the fighting in sudan. we will talk with someone from the un's refugee agency. colombian lawmakers debating tightening the law on surrogacy. we will meet a mother who tells us carrying a baby for someone else is the only way she can make ends meet. to our viewers on pbs in the united states and around the world, welcome. ukraine's president is calling for tribunals like those held after the second world war to try russian officials charged with committing war crimes in ukraine. he spoke today at the international criminal court in the hague and accused russia of committing thousands of war crimes. he said the russian president
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must be held accountable. >> a symbolic visit to the international criminal court. ukrainian president said he would much rather see another vladimira, russia's president, vladimir putin. >> the one who deserves to be sentenced for these criminal actions right here in the capital of the international law. >> icc issued an arrest warrant for vladimir putin in march related to the abduction of ukrainian children. the kremlin continues to deny accusations of war crimes in the courts jurisdiction is limited. the international criminal court can try russia's aggression as a whole. for this, zelenskyy set a new tribunal similar to the nuremberg trials for nazis
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should be set up. >> we should not look for excuses and should not refer to the shortcomings of the current international law, but make bold decisions that we -- that will correct the shortcomings of those that exist in international law. >> while zelenskyy draws on the process used after world war ii to hold vladimir putin accountable, russia is preparing for its victory day parade, to celebrate the 78 unions rolled in defeating -- the soviet union's rule in defeating germany. several have canceled parades amid fear of ukrainian attacks. russia has accused ukraine and the u.s. of being behind an alleged drone attack on the kremlin which it claims was an assassination attempt against vladimir putin.
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kyiv and washington have denied their involvement. but that has not stopped moscow from intensifying its attacks on ukraine. >> for more i'm joined by washington bureau chief and our correspondent jennifer. dw has been operating since russian authorities shut down our moscow office. welcome. jennifer, let me start with you. moscow believed ukraine for this alleged attack. a day later, it says the united states masterminded the whole thing. has it offered any proof? >> well, switching the blame from one side to another in this case, first ukraine, than the u.s., could indicate that russia does not really know who is responsible for the alleged attack and did not provide any proof. of course, we have to consider that the russian investigative committee has more information about the incident, but in
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comparison to right after it occurred, the kremlin's arguments do not sound very convincing. also blaming the u.s. is an often played card by russia, so it is not surprising it was played again under these circumstances. >> how is this being reported in russia? >> well, reporting on the alleged attack, the news anchors of russian state media promoted the kremlin's press release. the kremlin accused the ukrainian regime of terrorism and an attempt on vladimir putin's life. what is interesting is the footage of the alleged drone attack was not shown at all. instead viewers enjoyed some panoramic footage of the kremlin. according to russia, terrorist activities and sabotage by ukrainian armed forces have reached unprecedented levels, so moscow is considering different
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methods of retaliation. kremlin spokesperson demetri stressed that an official investigation is being conducted right now, but he did not specify when the results can be expected. and also they stated that such big decisions like drone attacks on other countries would be made in washington and ukraine it would only execute the decisions. >> those are the big claims without any evidence. to you, what is being said in washington about these accusations? >> exactly right, there are -- there is no proof for the accusation and ss dismissed these accusations. john kirby said that he can assure us that there was no involvement by the united states and whatever it was did not involve us, saying even if ukraine is involved, the united states has nothing to do with
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it. it's exactly to do with what secretary of state said when he was interested by the washington post while the news broke that this drone exploded over the kremlin. there is a crystal clear message on washington. we, the u.s., do not have anything to do with this. >> to both of you, thank you. origa is an expert on foreign relations. she researches drones and artificial intelligence in warfare appeared i asked her if she sees any evidence that this could have been planned by washington. >> that seems very far-fetched in my view. at this point, we have limited information. we've seen these videos. there is only so much we can deduce from it. but it seems absurd to believe that the u.s. is trying to
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assassinate vladimir putin and is doing so with drones that clearly know where he was, exposed material to make it an advantage to the kremlin. obviously, i would not exclude anything but it does not seem particularly convincing to me. >> so if it does not look like an attack or assassination attempt, what does it look like? what we are dealing with here is if we believe anything coming out of the kremlin, it's the fact that a drone was able to fly into moscow airspace, it was able to get right to a building in the middle of moscow. what does that tell us about moscow's air defense systems? >> that is an absolutely fair question. it seems like a symbolic attack. it could just be that whoever
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did the attack did not conceive of what we are actually trying to do, that could be possible. but from what we know and where vladimir putin is, it did not seem like it was a serious attempt. but you are right to point out that the fact that the drone could just fly onto the red square, the roof of the kremlin, that is not a great look for russian air defense systems. it is not implausible because finding drones is not as simple as one might think. you need to shoot it down. it is possible, but it's deftly not a good look. and a final note, on the ninth of may, coming out, there is the russian victory parade on the red square happening. and there is a price out, half a million u.s. dollars for any ukrainian uav manufacturer who manages to fly a drone onto the red square, so maybe this was a first test. we can see there is a lot here.
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>> in this war we have seen ukraine accused of sinking a russian battleship. they have been accused of attacking the only bridge that links russia with crimea. in these cases, ukraine never admitted to doing it but they never denied it either. in this case with this drone attack, ukraine has been adamant and vehement in its rejection of this accusation. what does that tell you? >> to be honest to me it means that most likely they did not order a strike and this was not a strike by you know ukrainian forces at least. that is what seems more likely. that seems more likely. indeed, it is also not -- this type of attack is different from other attacks on russian territory that ukraine it seems
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to have done. namely attacks on russian territory have been aimed at military installations. so for example, there were two attacks on russian airfields by drones, but this was a military attack. they have never attacked anything political in their targets such as here. the denial seems credible to me. >> what about connection to what we have seen in moscow with the ukrainian military launching its counteroffensive against russian forces in eastern ukraine? do you see any connection or are you expecting the counteroffensive to start imminently? >> everyone is waiting for the counteroffensive. we do not know when, where or how it will look, but we know it will happen. that is basically the situation. this could be part of this, it may be a symbolic strike to try to destabilize vladimir putin or
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the russian population, the public. it is possible it could send a message of nowhere is safe. we can reach moscow. again, i do not think it is the most likely thing, it is not a military target. the counteroffensive will be a military counteroffensive, and yes the offensive is coming or so we believe. >> let me ask, the possibility of what we saw over the kremlin on tuesday night, wednesday morning, what about rogue russian forces being responsible for that? >> yes, of course. it could be russian forces, ukrainian forces, sabotaged by individuals. that seems slightly more likely because the drone did not look big, so it seems more likely that it did not fly from ukraine but it started more close by, either russian or ukrainian
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forces, but honestly, we do not know, so this is speculation, but it is a possible as is a possible false flag operation. >> lots of questions, lots of unanswered questions. with the european council on foreign relations, we appreciate your time and your viable insights tonight, thank you police in berlin are investigating how details of a possible visit by ukrainian president zelinski ended up in a local newspaper. for security reasons, information about the ukrainian leaders trips is normally kept secret until the last minute, but in this case, police confirmed the report that the ukrainian president is planning to visit the german capital this month. dw clinical correspondent has been following this story. i asked him how the presidents information got out. >> it ended up being so controversial because it is difficult to really know exactly what berlin police may or may
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not have leaked to the german press on that possible visit. there are different versions on what actually ended up in the papers. berlin police today stressed in one of its statements that officially, they did not provide any information that may have jeopardized a possible visit. several outlets in germany actually published many details and cited police spokesperson. in any case, something relevant about all of this is it is turning into a big political discussion. that is why today berlin police decided to announce this investigation citing suspected betrayal of secrets. that gives you an idea of how sensitive the issue has become. >> it's unusual, isn't it? >> is absolutely unusual on various fronts. you mentioned it, when zelenskyy
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travels, he does not announce the details so much in advance. most visits are unannounced or surprise visits. but from the german perspective we have not had a confirmation from the government about this trip happening or not happening. the german government normally announces those kinds of visits on a friday for the following week unless it is something on very short notice. so on many different fronts, this is highly unusual in that is why all of this is so problematic. but also extremely unusual. >> and what about president zelenskyy's visit? has this incident jeopardize that? >> we still do not even know if it is officially happening because neither the ukrainian government nor the germans have confirmed or denied any visit but you can imagine that when these details are leaked to the
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press, we're talking many details about that visit, that can create serious challenges for the team organizing the visit on both sides, from the ukrainian and the german perspective. if there is a visit, that will happen in the next few days. i can imagine behind the scenes the different stakeholders are reorganizing some of the elements after this particular leak. the fact that there is an ongoing investigation for possible betrayal of secrets gives you an indication of how serious all of this is, in particular this high-level visit. >> dw thomas with the latest. thank you. german chancellor olaf scholz is backing the african union's bid to join the g20 group of economist. he began a three-day trip to east africa in the ethiopian capital. he wants to strengthen german influence in the region but his visit is overshadowed by the conflict in sudan.
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>> here at the airport, german chancellor olaf scholz started his second trip to africa since taking office. ethiopia is the second most populous country in africa but it faces many problems. the modern facade the chancellor sees on his drive into the city center is deceptive. ethiopia has gone from being a role model to a struggling nation with many people barely making ends meet. inflation has soared to nearly 40%. >> survival is a daily struggle. all my children are educated. but they are unemployed. i only earn about 10 euros per month. i've had my own shop for one year. during that time, the products have become more and more expensive because of inflation. i hardly make a profit. my business is getting worse and worse. >> the chancellor's first visit
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is to the african union headquarters. the union has 55 members and is set to become a bigger player on the international stage soon. >> we want to show support to the union, getting a seat at the g20 so that they can participate. you want to show our respect for the continent and all its states in its growing population. we have surveyed a number of hotspots if i can say that. our neighbors sudan. >> many people fleeing the fighting have been pouring into ethiopia, presenting a new challenge for the crisis stricken and war turn country. chancellor schulz's next stop is kenya. >> here is a look at other stories making headlines around the world.
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for members of the proud boys militia group of been found guilty of seditious conspiracy. the jury in washington found that the group plotted the january 6 u.s. capitol attack in an attempt to block congress from certifying president joe biden's election victory. all four of them could get up to 20 years in. japan and france have signed a nuclear cooperation agreement to speed up development of next-generation reactors and improve the safety of existing ones. the declaration covers decommissioning the disabled fukushima nuclear power plant. the british pop superstar ed sheeran has won a copyright lawsuit in manhattan federal court. if the jury decided that he did not unlawfully copy marvin gaye's 1973 classic let's get it on. heirs of the songwriter sued him, accusing him of copying the melody, the harmony and the rhythm. torrential rains of battered western and northern parts of
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rwanda. as well as uganda. flooding roads and triggering landslides, more than 120 people have died. authorities say the death toll will likely rise further as the floodwaters subsided. more rain is forecast in the coming days. eight agencies are warning that the humanitarian crisis precipitated by the conflict in sudan could engulf the entire east african region. the united nations refugee agency is estimating that nearly one million people could leave sudan as the army battles rival paramilitaries. a weeklong cease-fire has been agreed upon, but soon thereafter fighting began yet again. >> a ration card for basic necessities. after fleeing sudan across the are reliant on donations. 100,000 sudanese have escaped to
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neighboring countries. as the violence in sudan shows no sign of relenting, the u.n. refugee agency is planning how to provide support in the coming months. >> there is fighting, far from here is the head of particular matters. from here to the border. police and security is they resolve. >> these families have arrived in south sudan. the deadly fighting they left behind in the capital has devastated their daily lives. >> the situation in the country forced me to come here. there is nothing good left in the country, no work. it is chaos. anyone can rob you of your belongings. it is like a jungle. >> just outside soldiers keep
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watch from the top of a tank on the side of the road. nearby buildings light in rubble. the sudanese army has taken back control of this area from the rapid support forces but the ongoing clashes are taking a toll on the country and its citizens and the soldiers themselves. here the fighting continues. the most recent attempt at a cease-fire went up in smoke within hours. >> surrogacy is a multimillion dollar business that only a few countries have legalized. in colombia paying women to have babies for would-be parents is neither legal nor forbidden. surrogates can be found online or at medical clinics specializing in matchups. lawmakers are debating whether legislation is needed. demand for surrogates is as healthy as ever. >> ultrasound pictures of life
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at six months. in the face of the baby that daniela, a mother of three, will give birth to. this time she will not keep it. she is a surrogate in columbia's capital for a couple in the united states. not everyone in her family knows she is doing this, which is why she wants to remain anonymous. >> this whole thing is a process and it comes with a mutual payment, mutual help. on one hand, the baby, on the other hand, they are helping us with money. women who do this can it decide to open a business for example. before i started, i had been unemployed since the pandemic. when i learned about this opportunity i told myself it would be great. also because i could be with my children at home. >> at the end of the pregnancy,
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she will earn at 4000 euros in total. columbia is a bargain compared to the u.s. or europe where surrogates paid tens of thousands. commercial surrogacy is not forbidden, it is thriving in a legal void. after previous attempts, columbia is discussing a bill that would regulate the practice. surrogacy would only be possible as an altruistic act with no pay and foreigners who make up the majority of customers would be barred. human rights lawyer says that does not go far enough. she wants it banned entirely. >> a government cannot regulate a practice that violates human rights. a practice is a practice that has open the doors to abandonment, danger, defenselessness. two trafficking children. to sexual exploitation. you have to take account of that.
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>> to carry a child for others, women have to go through hormonal treatments without knowing how their bodies will react. dw had arranged and interview with the ministry of justice which is proposing the law. they canceled on short notice. urged by the constitutional court to take action, congressman like alejandro say regulating surrogacy is a start even if he would prefer a band. >> if you start regulating surrogacy, medical facilities need to tell us whose child it is. and we would already have control over the surrogate. it would not be easy anymore to take that child out of colombia. it is not your child. we will in prison and fined doctors, those who break the rules. >> surrogate mothers like
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daniela support new rules but want to decide for themselves what is best. she feels safe and is happy to help the couple in the u.s.. maybe she can open a shop of her own. >> police in india have clashed with wrestlers as they protested near the indian parliament. take a look at this. the wrestlers who included olympic medalist have been protesting since the end of april. they are demanding the arrest of the countries federation chief who was accused of sexually harassing seven female wrestlers, including a minor. a little bit of good news, the mexican army has welcomed a new puppy from turkey to be trained as a search-and-rescue dog. they sent the three month old german shepherd as a symbol of solidarity between the two countries. mexico lost one of its rescue dogs in the line of duty in turkey as it was searching for survivors of february's
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earthquakes. the dog is named arcadus which means friend in turkish. here is a reminder of our top story. ukraine's pleasant -- president has made a visit to the hague. he urged a nuremberg style trial be created to hold russia to account for war crimes committed in ukraine. you're watching dw news. after a short break i will be back to take you through the day. stick around, we will be right back.
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>> you're watching "live from paris" here on france 24. i'm mark owen. these are the headlines. volodymyr zelenskyy speeds -- speaks in the hague calling for a trial for the atrocities committed in his country. fighting continues in the sudan, in spite of the truce brokered by neighboring south sudan. it was set to take effect this thursday. nonetheless, the sound of bombardment continued this
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thursday. the coronation of king charles iii is set for this weekend in london. already, there are fans of the royal family sleeping on the street to claim a front row seat. we will be examining the minority who are anti-monarchy. this is "live from paris pure cup -- "live from paris." thank you very much for being with us. ukraine's president got a standing ovation at the hague this thursday. he called for a war crimes tribunal to investigate the actions of russian soldiers in ukraine, adding that vladimir putin himself must be punished by international law. zelenskyy, who refused to flick you have when russians were at the city gates -- refused to flee kyiv when russians were at
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the city gates, called for russians to face justice. >> dressed in his trademark khaki, ukraine's president made a surprise visit to the international criminal court in the hague thursday. speaking after, volodymyr zelenskyy said russian president vladimir putin must feel the full power of justice and called for a fledged international criminal tribunal. >> of course, we all want to see different vladimir here in the hague, the one who deserves to be sentenced for these criminal actions right here in the capital of the international hall, and i'm sure we will see that happen when we win. >> zelenskyy wants a special tribunal to prosecute so-called crimes of aggression, the
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invasion and occupation of a state. separately in march, the icc issued an arrest warrant for putin over the alleged deportation of children from ukraine, and russian soldiers have been accused of some 85,000 incidents of war crimes, including torture, rape, and the targeted killing of civilians. russia denies committing atrocities in ukraine, is not a member of the icc, and rejects its jurisdiction. putin will not surrender to stand trial. however, this warrant could limit his travel to icc member states where he could potentially be arrested. zelenskyy's visit comes as ukraine prepares to launch its spring counteroffensive against occupier and russian forces. he said thursday the effort is nationwide. >> it is important we do our best.
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not only soldiers, our society. >> pressure has stepped up attacks ahead of the counteroffensive. early thursday, odessa and the capitol kyiv were targeted by two dozen combat drones, and wednesday, 23 civilians were killed by russian shelling in the front lines of the region of kherson. mark: a jury this thursday convicting for members of the far right militia proud boys group of seditious conspiracy. the court found they plotted to attack the u.s. capital on january 6, 2021, in a failed did to block congress from certifying joe biden's presidency. >> significant victory with
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securing those 4 convictions for seditious conspiracy against those members of the proud boys. you mentioned henrique atari oh, and that one is especially significant because he was not present when the storming happened, and that was really the key of this trial, that the proud boys have always argued that what they did might have in wrong, to storm the capital, but that this was not planned -- what they did might have been wrong, but that this was not planned, that it got out of control. the justice department has argued the whole time, and what they have proven is that this was planned all along, organized by the proud boys days, weeks before the january 6 attack, and the fact that they managed to get a conviction for someone who was not even present on the day
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shows that the jury agreed with them that this was more than something, a mass gathering that got out of control on that day, but that it was actually a sort of revolution that was planned all along, so his conviction was important in that sense. there were five people on trial for the proud boys. four of them got that seditious conspiracy. all five got several other counts of conspiracy as well as other felonies. for example, obstructing an event in congress, things like that. of course, seditious conspiracy is the most important one, and there is another member of the proud boys on which the jury has yet to agree on a verdict for because he was not in the leadership of the other four, and he does not seem to be present on any of the messaging, the chats that happened before,
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so proving that he was involved in this planning of this conspiracy, that is something the jury has not agreed to yet, but it is a very big win for the justice department. the third trial involving seditious conspiracy, and each time, there have been convictions for seditious conspiracy. the first two trials involve the oath keepers, another extremist group. this time, the proud boys, and so far, six oath keepers, 4 proud boys, all convicted of seditious conspiracy for their role in planning that attack on january 6 on the u.s. capitol. mark: we add at this point that dominic petula was acquitted of the charges against him. the killings by the secret service happened in a bay in the
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occupied west bank on thursday -- happened in a raid in the occupied west bank on thursday. >> in the early hours of thursday morning, more than 200 israeli soldiers raided the old city of annapolis, killing three palestinians and injuring several others. two of those shot were wanted militants, accused of killing a british israeli woman and her two daughters last month. >> once the israeli army withdrew, i went back home, only to find it completely destroyed. the water pipes have exploded. i went up to the roof and found out that our neighbors' houses were also bombed. >> huge crowds gathered for the funerals of the three men, their bodies wrapped in the green flags of hamas. the palestinian militant groups of the men killed were members of its armed wing and confirmed they were responsible for the april attack. meanwhile, in a tweet, israeli
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prime minister benjamin netanyahu praised its security forces. >> our message to those who harm us and those who want to harm us is that if it takes a day, a week, a month, you can be set -- certain we will settle accounts for you. >> there has been an intensification of violence between israel and the palestinians since the start of this year. more than 100 palestinians have been killed by israeli forces, while 19 israelis have been killed in palestinian attacks. mark: next, fighting in the civil conflict continues in sudan in despite of the seven-day truce negotiated buys neighboring -- negotiated by neighboring south sudan. >> it is a story of empty promises in sudan. on thursday, what was supposed to be a week-long truce, heavy
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black smoke billows into the air over khartoum, reportedly following air strikes and artillery fire by the sudanese army. their battle for control of the country continues with their rivals, the rapid support forces. the military is making gains. >> we now feel secure that the army has pushed rapid support forces out of our neighborhood. >> recapturing this area did not come without cost. the fierce fighting has not only left its mark on buildings but on soldiers, too, who are being treated in this military hospital for their injuries. they are just the tip of the iceberg in a conflict that has so far left hundreds dead and thousands injured, most in khartoum and the western region of darfur that still carries the war -- the scars from the war in
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2003. >> we at the sudan liberation movement strongly call on both sides to cease-fire, as there is no winner in this war. >> several countries have made similar please since fighting broke out over two weeks ago. the conflict is said to be the focus of talks by arabic foreign minister's this sunday ahead of a summit in saudi arabia later this month. mark: we of course, watching all developments for you on that situation in sudan. youngsters in serbia paid silent homage this thursday to students killed a day earlier when a 13-year-old boy using his father prosper -- using his father's guns sent shockwaves through the nation.
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students, many wearing black and carrying flowers, filled the streets of belgrade. earlier, thousands had lined up to lay flowers, light candles, and leave toys to commemorate the eight children and school guard who were killed. italy's foreign minister canceled a trip to paris after a french minister criticized rome's migration policy in a fresh spat of contentious issue between the two nations. there was a radio interview in paris this thursday. the french interior said the italian prime minister is -- these are his words -- incapable of resolving the migration problems faced by the country. the italian prime minister's land -- slammed what he called unacceptable remarks and cancel the trip to the french capital. >> there is an influx of
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migrants, specifically migrants because prime minister meloni and her far right government that was picked by friends of misses le pen, by the way, are unable to solve the migration problems on which they were elected. the truth is that there is a political situation in tunisia -- in libya, too, but especially tunisia, which makes children leave and go to italy and italy is unable to manage this influx. mark: characteristic straight shooting there. of course, angry reaction from the italians. let's go to our italy correspondent. >> you have this reaction of the italian foreign minister, making this decision to scrap this long-scheduled trip he was supposed to make to paris today. he said that those statements made by the french interior minister were insults. he said that they are serious accusations and they are simply unacceptable, and so essentially, yet again, we are seeing this spat between these
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two neighboring countries over the issue of migration. it was ms. maloney's government, the far right government came into power in october last year and already, we saw that first spat when italy refused to let the charity rescue ship ocean biking, that was carrying 200 34 migrants to dock in support in italy. they were left at sea for many weeks, eventually forcing france to accept ownership. france at the time said it was unacceptable what italy had done and decided to block taking in some 3000 400 migrants that were scheduled to be taken in by france. italy responded at the time with ms. maloney calling such a move very aggressive and unacceptable, but eventually, it seemed as if things had calmed down, and you saw macron and m eloni meeting in march, saying they are ready and willing to cooperate on the issue.
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yet again, we are hearing of another spat between these neighboring countries on the issue of migration. >> the coronation of king charles iii is set for this weekend in london. already, there are fans of the royal family sleeping on the pavement to try to claim a seat for the procession of the new king across london. >> while some are spending days camping outside buckingham palace waiting to catch a glimpse of the newly crowned king, the coronation weekend is less of a celebration to others. some in the district of whitechapel in east london, the display of pomp and pageantry is badly timed as insulation exceeds 10% in the u.k. -- as inflation exceeds 10% in the u.k. >> struggle and dealing with a lot of loss, it is kind of
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disheartening to see on tv so much resources and money being given to this family that it does not feel like they are giving anything back. >> the full cost to taxpayers will not be known until after the ceremony, and it is this that is seen as unjust for some. >> they don't care about none of us. you should see how many people sleeping outside her. >> while opposition and apathy toward the monarchy are growing, most people do still want a british royal family. >> we are looking at about 1000 people there on trafalgar square , in terms of chanting and
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speeches. it's going to be a peaceful protest, but it is about making sure that we are impossible to ignore. >> a survey last week found 46% of brits don't plan to watch the ceremony life. mark: great views there in the streets of london, some honest people having their say, which is great for democracy, and protests in the hope government can change, that also is a think. we will have coverage as it all unfolds. time for business. the day after the u.s. federal reserve, the european central bank raised its benchmark index rate once again. >> once again, they raised interest rates by a quarter percentage point, but while the u.s. central bank hinted it could pause future hikes, the
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european central bank says the fight against inflation is not over. it marks the seventh straight rate increase by the ecb in less than a year. until last summer, its benchmark rate on deposits from banks had been negative for eight years. now it has gone up to 3.25%. meanwhile, some banking customers are becoming frustrated that while banks have been increased -- have been quick to increase borrowing costs, the rates have not been reflected on their deposits. >> slowing down its interest rate hikes but hinting more action is necessary, the european central bank says that eurozone's 7% inflation rate is still too high. >> it is not so much the destination that matters but the journey, and we are on a journey, ok? and we are not pausing. under present circumstances and based on what we have, we know that we have more ground to cover. >> previous interest rate hikes
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seem to be having their desired effect on reducing borrowing and spending. the ecb's lending survey this week showed the biggest drop in more than a decade. despite higher interest paid to banks on overnight deposits, households are not seeing that passed on to their checking accounts. in february, the figures stayed largely unchanged at 0.12%. some analysts are warning of bank walks where, instead of a bank run, customers slowly withdraw funds they do not immediately need and deposit them somewhere else like money market funds for higher returns. more than 34 billion euros flowed into these funds in march alone. however, other analysts as well as bank directors downplayed the warning, saying the outflows have an insignificant and clients may prioritize security over interest payouts.
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>> bank shares traded weaker this thursday following that decision on rate hikes. weighing on the overall performance of some markets globally. wall street shares extended losses with the dow dropping almost 300 points at the close of the s&p, and the nasdaq also ended the day in the red. chief executives of major tech firms developing artificial intelligence work summoned to the white house where vice president harris told them that they have a "moral responsibility" to protect society from the potential dangers of ai. harris told the bosses of google, microsoft, open ai, and anthropic that companies must comply with existing laws to protect the american people who have mounting concern over the speed of ai evolvement. there are fears ai technologies will wreak havoc on society
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before the government can catch up. so what are the dangers of artificial intelligence? i put the question to none other than chatgpt, which gave me a list of seven potential risks, including taking away jobs, autonomous weapons, and unforeseen consequences. it's advice -- it is important to recognize the potential dangers and take steps to mitigate them while also continuing to develop and improve ai technology in a responsible and ethical manner. mark: indeed, big challenge for organizations like ours going forward. one wonders that, harris --, harris -- kamala harris brothers people to just to tell them the obvious. time to go truthing or faking.
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debunking is the word, claims that the u.s. border looks like a scene from "the walking dead?" do tell us more. >> at least that's what many people claim with this viral video, posted on twitter on may 3 and viewed over 4 million times on the platform, where we see this border flooded by immigrants trying to hop over the ends, illegally it seems, as many claim that this scene took place in the u.s.-mexico border that looks like a scene from "the walking dead." here's a screenshot from the most viral tweet that shared this video. it was viewed over 4.7 million times on twitter. so why is this video circulating now? here's some clues from these tweets, sharing the same video where this user claims this
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crisis is about to get a lot worse, since title 42 and -- ends on may 11, 2023. a little reminder, that's the covid era asylum rule that allows the u.s. to expel non-mexican migrants without the chance to seek asylum. this restriction, as they said, set to expire on may 11 as joe biden announced he will send a that he will send 1500 troops to the u.s. and mexican border. mark: what we are noticing is everybody publishes something bogus as an agenda. i recognize those images because we covered that story when it happened. i will let you give away the veracity or the source of where this comes from. did this video really take place at the u.s.-mexico border as the
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claims suggest? >> indeed, we will get to that, but this video did not take place in the u.s.-mexico border, as you must know. this video actually took place in spain -- on the spanish border with morocco. looking in the comment section of twitter is always a good place to start for clues. here is this comment, for instance, where this user says it is not the u.s. border. it is here. we added these coordinates into google maps where we found much the same images. this is the result. here is a screenshot of the video, part of the video where you can see the same building as the one in the result from google maps. an element number two, also in
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the comments section on twitter, as this user claims, the uniforms we see in the video does not belong to the uniforms of the u.s. border patrol. these are worn by the spanish border patrol officials. here's another photo of uniforms where you can see it is very similar with these green letters. they also have a green uniform with a black vest. we compare this uniform from the spanish border control to the one of the u.s. border patrol. you can see it looks like this from the u.s. customs protection website. mark: i remember the images from when we did the story back in the day. tell us more about what was actually happening. >> the earliest existence we could find of the video online is this tiktok video that was
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posted on tiktok on june 2022 with this caption that reads, people coming from morocco to spain. roughly 2000 people are trying to cross the border to spain from rocco. once again confirming that this video could not have taken place this week in the u.s.-mexican border. and according to this article by al jazeera also from june 2022, it does seem that last summer, there was this immigration crisis in the spanish and moroccan border where thousands of migrants attempted to cross into the spanish north africa, even leading to deaths in some cases. mark: al jazeera, as we see, saying 18 deaths. many people online claiming it was a different place, a different set of migrants, and certainly a different set of circumstances.
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as to their agenda or their motivation for posting it, we will never know. thank you, and thanks to you all for watching wherever you are. do stay with us. more to come live from paris. ♪ >> they observe. they contact us. they report. some photograph. they are the voice of the voiceless. your eyes in the far-flung reaches of the world. "the observers" -- a network of 5000 committed citizens working with france 24. amateur footage and testimonials checked by our journalists and broadcast weekly on "the observers" on france 24 and france24.com. ♪
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