i wouldn't want to import danger into my household. i wouldn't want to import disease into my household. when you say danger and disease, what do you mean? - immigration brings in danger and disease. - do you think that's down to other people coming in? well, hiv, it's a combination of factors. it's homosexuals spread hiv, predominately, but the only other way you see people getting it in great britain is through migrant populations. (upbeat jazz music) i've been spending time with britain's right wing extremists. the election of london's muslim mayor was seen as a progressive step in britain's diversity,

but it was met with intense opposition by ultra-nationalists who claim the nation was under threat from muslims and immigrants. since the death of mp jo cox by extremist thomas mair, counter-terrorism police have foiled four terror plots. one was a machete attack at a gay pride event. another was the planned assassination of a left-leaning member of parliament. jack renshaw had planned to kill her as part of what he called white jihad. he bought a 19-inch machete and searched the internet to find out how to cut the jugular artery. (upbeat jazz music) i was on my way to milton keynes to meet anne marie waters, one of britain's most anti-islam and anti-immigrant figures.

she viewed islam as evil and wanted an end to immigration from muslim countries. i joined her on a campaign she was leading for her political party. she left ukip after coming second in its leadership race and said she wouldn't oppose membership for english defence league founder stephen lennon, known to many as tommy robinson. there is something happening in london tomorrow and it's happening at speakers' corner. it's journalists from friendly democratic countries were detained by police in this country and deported. now, they were deported because one of them wanted to speak to tommy robinson. - anne marie was referring to alt-right vlogger brittany pettibone and her partner martin sellner, a leader of a white nationalist movement in austria. (martin speaks foreign language)

they were denied entry on the grounds their presence would inflame community tensions. martin sellner's speech was now going to be delivered by tommy robinson. there are now prayers being held on a regular basis at speakers' corner. we, here, the people of europe, the native people of europe, our parents and our grandparents and our great-grandparents, to us, this religion is new and it's imported and it's not us, it's not ours. the borders are staying open, and that is what it all comes down to, this new globalised world. knock off this truth. this is the truth. these, they're traitors, in westminster, need to know that we're watching. a rally on the way to the pub followed, so i caught up with anne marie. let's go. ooh, bloody hell!

let's let people know why we're here. let's just let people know. why should i be tolerant when there's no tolerance required from the other side? - but they're extremists, they're different. - no, no, no, no, no, no, no. massive population in this country is overwhelmingly pakistani. now, look at pakistan. blasphemy carries the death penalty, and not because a tiny minority of extremists want it, but because a vast majority of the country supports it. - surely those same laws wouldn't be imposed here. there are many muslim countries around the world and they all have different laws. what do you say to those who say that your speech is racist? - well, i would say, you're a disingenuous liar. mingling with her supporters and a few drinks later, anne marie joined me. i was hoping to get an insight into her view of muslim dominance.

as i said in my speech, we have now muslim prayer at speakers' corner. - what's wrong with muslim people praying? - well, everything is wrong with it. to my mind, it's a show of dominance, and why pick speakers' corner? because they know that's where free speech... - why dominance though? well, because, to intimidate and to show that freedom of speech may be your value but it isn't ours. - i find it difficult to see that. praying at speakers' corner is a symbol, it's a sign of dominance, and you don't see it but i do, because i know more about the religion, frankly. - i just see praying as a relatively peaceful act. - right (chuckles). well not for a violent religion it's not. - no, no, i just want to learn about what you're saying, why you think it's a show of dominance. - because it is! look around the world, you only need to look at the world. - but don't you think there can be this coexistence? - how can you coexist? you don't get it, you just don't get it. we are being asked to water down, to rein in,

freedoms it took our ancestors years to establish. we should not be expected to alter our way of doing things to accommodate them. - sure. - simple as that. but i fail to see how this is being done, that we in britain are adapting to islam and islamic values. right. i explained that we detained journalists for purely for the reasons that they don't like islam. you won't have islam unless you have muslims. it's as simple as that. - don't you think a lot of blaming, comes onto them unfairly? there's this racial drive. - it's people like you who make it into a racialist drive, it's the media who makes it into racism. no, no. i've never said anything about racism. - no, no. - let me finish! - british muslims can turn into british asians. - let me give you an example. - that's all i'm saying. the rape gangs in this country are almost exclusively muslim. and they'll blame it on pakistanis, but if you go to bristol it's actually somalis,

and yet the media insists on calling them asian. i don't call them asian, the media calls them asian. so, if anyone is responsible for... - you're adamant to call them muslim? yes, the are muslims! it won't work, you're too different. (inaudible stuttering) and we, the natives of europe and of britain, are being asked to compromise our values in order to accommodate something that we consider barbaric and medieval, and we don't want it. i think it just takes some time for immigrants to assimilate, some people say... and how many of our people are we going to sacrifice for them to, you see, here's the point, what's in it for us? what exactly do the british gain from opening our doors to half the world and then saying, oh well, it'll take time for them to integrate? if a thousand, or 10,000, or 100,000 girls are raped, or mutilated in the meantime, well that's fine, it'll take time for them to integrate. no! no, it's not our problem! - sure. - it's not our job to... but you can't say that's all because of immigrants. it would not have happened

if those men had not been allowed into this country. thank you. - thank you. - cheers. the next day i was on my way to hear a speech by tommy robinson. you have gone completely independent, tell people what that means and where people... his show on the far-right canadian website, the rebel, boosted his following, and after leaving the online media, he filmed and shamed british asians suspected of sex offences while on their way to court. - i want people to see what i see. (mellow jazz music) - i was in speakers' corner in hyde park. today you will be with me! where the tree of life is! if you want. (man yelling to crowd) it's a for britain movement led by anne marie waters, anne marie waters and for britain! research it! one of the key campaigns is to control the islamification of britain. - there was speculation about tommy

not showing because the speech written by the austrian nationalist had attracted the attention of authorities. we haven't actually seen him yet, do we know for sure he's definitely going to turn up? we don't know, i don't know, you know what i mean? who knows, let's just see what happens. okay. (crowd chattering) (crowd cheering) - no to islamisation! no to mass immigration! yes! and no to the great replacement! tommy said that the indigenous european population was being replaced. i waited anxiously amongst his fans to talk to him, but he made a quick exit with his entourage, leaving nationalists and muslims to face off. this cultural marxism which is affecting us, this anti-white hatred which is affecting us, (crowd applauds) is now so heavily embedded

that our american brothers laugh at us. - the ideology of tommy robinson is an ideology of fascism and intolerance! ♪ when britain first at heaven's command ♪ ♪ arose ♪ allahu akbar! allahu akbar! (upbeat jazz music) quick, corby! tensions run high after terror attacks, with muslim communities feeling the after-effect. a month after the concert bombings, darren osborne drove into muslims in london outside finsbury park mosque, killing one person and injuring 12. metropolitan police stated in court that his act of terror was influenced by tommy robinson's online media. just minutes before, this man was at the wheel of a van, driven at speed into a crowd of unsuspecting worshippers

leaving a mosque after ramadan prayers. (crowd shouting) (upbeat jazz music) there was a belief that britain was at war with muslims and its ethnic minorities, and it led me to my next contact, paul pitt - real name paul prodromou. an advocate for white pride, he gained notoriety at protests for his fiery temper. - paul? - yeah. how are you doing? yeah, not too bad, yourself? good, good, all right. i grew up, i come from a multicultural family. but don't you think, paul, that contradicts what you, yeah, i mean, sharing a platform, for example with the - national front. - yeah. - which you have. - yeah. and they're considered to be a fascist group, a political movement. - they're white sanity. they're white sanity, the national front. there's not one white movement in the last 40 years, since hit... well, longer than that, since the second world war. - you were gonna say since hitler. yeah, since hitler, that when a white man stuck his head up.

i'm genuinely sayin' it out of a love for white people, to say, look, we should be able to take care of ourselves. we should look and put ourselves forward. the only race on the face of the earth that don't do it is the white people. can you project that love for others as well? i think minorities... yeah, yeah. again, i said to you, i don't hate a person cause of the colour of their skin. if we're talking about a wider white issue, then it should be channelled purely towards the politicians, because they're the ones that sold us out for the last 40 years. - sold the whites out? - yeah. sold everybody out in this country, primarily the whites as well, yeah. everybody should be proud of their race and who they are, surely. should we stand over here out of the wind? - yeah, yeah. i was wondering, how much more do we have to walk - to get to the... - it's miles. - nature zone. - you can go miles and miles. if you deny people a voice, they have no other choice but to resort to violence.

expect bloodshed, expect mayhem on the streets, cause at the end of the day, people are fightin' for what they believe in. but a lot of people say that the voice of hatred is the wrong way to go about it. - what, because they're white people? because they spoke, and so... no, because it's hatred. it's not hatred, at the end of the day. and they create violence. they were ignored. the man that killed joanne cox was ignored and went off on one. is it right, well, people will understand why he did it, because he was ignored, the same as the guy who drove the van into the muslims at finsbury park. because of the ideological belief that you carry, do you have to have two different personas? i'm the same person, everyone knows me. they've known me long before i started all this. why do you carry the name paul pitt? (paul chuckles) (paul stammers)

that doesn't matter, does it? i mean, you knowing the real... is that for your safety? to protect my family and that, yeah. there is that element of danger. - yeah, of course there is. - for your family that comes from what you say. of course there is. that's why i don't ever have my family on film. that's why i don't, i wouldn't take you to my house, i wouldn't introduce you to my family, because i can't, i wouldn't ask them to take on what my beliefs, to pay the price for what i believe in. what i'd like to see, the muslims in this country, all normal joe muslim walking around, - yeah? - yeah? take responsibility for your religion. take responsibility for the men that are fucking killing innocent people in the name of your religion. no matter how much ordinary muslims integrate themselves and adapt to the culture and principles and values of britain, you'll still see islam as evil, won't you?

- myself? - won't you? yeah, because i do feel islam is evil. i just wonder that, instead of going along with the rhetoric that you have, that can potentially fuel... what do you suggest? - and provoke us. - aw. embrace everyone! and i think, no- - because not every muslim is a terrorist. what about the peaceful resolution, you know, just? really, you do believe that there's gonna be a peaceful resolution to this? there is no peaceful solution, and i don't think there ever will be. do you think things are likely in that case to escalate? some have said things like civil war happening. i could see that happening, i could see it happening the same as what happened in northern ireland. what do you think about that? i think it's terrible, it'll break my fucking heart. i will fucking cry, i will cry to see my country destroyed in that way and us having no other choice. i do believe it's gonna happen.

i felt disappointed i couldn't encourage paul's outlook towards a more tolerant approach. (tense music) earlier this year, numerous letters had been posted and circulated online inviting people to 'punish a muslim day', rewarding points for the level of violence used in attacks. tech companies were closing accounts of radical right-wing figures for reinforcing such messages of hate. nationalists were calling it a clampdown on their freedom of speech. i headed to the coastal town of lowestoft in suffolk to meet the former social media administrator of the edl. his name is ivan humble, and he used to be the regional organiser for the east anglian division and had now become a campaigner for tolerance. after i left, i realised the consequences of my actions with my children, and especially me eldest daughter.

the two kids at home, they're being neglected, i weren't hurt them or nothing, but they were going without my time. the thing back then, i had quite a ruthless heart, my heart was covered, if you understand what i mean. ivan's tattoos signified the loyalty he once had to his edl division. yeah, i had them done. it kind of, most tattoos have a meaning, this is probably me only tattoo that has real meaning. it says, "we have far more in common "than which divides us." yes, that's jo cox's saying. that i've realised that, i suppose the pleasure of what i do now is realising that we've got common ground with people we think we hate or we disagree with, and, by not attacking the differences any more, and working on the common ground, the division seems less. (waves crashing) when you're in that mindset, you only see your point of view. there's a fine line between freedom of speech and hate speech.

their argument is that if their opinions are closed down and they're not able to express themselves on social media, then they're being censored. you'll always have that argument, that argument will always be there - because somebody will always... 'cause they're saying it's not hate speech, it's them just freely expressing themselves. it's because they honestly believe in their head there's a genuine concern, but they're not seeing their own sugar-coated agenda around it. i'm going to be meeting with the youth member of the nbu. oh yeah? - their leader's gary raikes. - gary raikes, yeah. yeah, see, i've kind of known gary for a long time as well. he was around when i was in the edl, i remember him, seeing him then. they've got quite mad ideas, haven't they? they're quite properly fascists, they're just like mosley was years ago. ivan told me that gary raikes was seeking followers at the anti-muslim street movement named the football lads alliance.

the nbu had its roots in the anti-jewish political party of the 1930s called british union of fascists, led by oswald mosley, notorious for campaigning for britain to make peace with hitler. their party was outlawed by the government after the start of the second world war. (car rumbling) (tense music) i left for leeds to see the group's leading youth member, jack williams, who asked for his face not to be shown. he was a second-year university student with a personal admiration for the fascist dictator benito mussolini. under our system, the government would have almost no power. it's important that i distinguish this movement from some of the lunacy that is preached by people who claim the same title as us. the basis, tenets of our ideology stem from fascism. to lighten the mood, i suggested a game of pool.

how would the fascist party work within the political system of britain today? do you approach the british government and say that we need to overthrow this system? certainly, i'm not calling for anything illegal, you know, not some kind of physical armed revolution. so, it's not revolution, it's a reform, is what you're saying? well, no it is revolution. the necessity for a revolution, it cannot be understood. it is a necessity, you know, there are so many ills with british society that simply tweaking bits here and there will not cut it, it will not make people happy. if we want to deliver people unto happiness, we absolutely have to rethink the whole system. for those who just want a basic understanding of what the nbu is about? our principle goal, bringing the nation together. can you leave the nazi salute out? well, i...

because of the historical connotation. you know, i can't speak for any other people in that regard, but i personally don't choose to use it for that exact reason that you've just given. but the leader of the nbu has... sure, he doesn't do it in reverence of adolf hitler, he does it because it was the salute of all fascist movements. as abhorrent as his views were, jack wasn't a diehard neo-nazi fascist, but it looked like he was on a path to becoming one. you're the leader of the... well, actually, recently i was promoted, if you will, over the last couple of days. i'm now head of the propaganda department. and how does that fit in with your university schedule? being a student? half my time is dedicated to my academic pursuits and then the other half is dedicated to the moral tenets that i feel to be justified. would i be right in saying your family knows? my family have some idea, but not it's just more convenient not to tell people, and it's unfortunate.

it's an inevitable consequence of not listening to what we have to say. it's going to fuel extremism from this ideology and the people are gonna get resentful and they're gonna turn to extremist politics. so, i think what you're say is that it justifies far-right extremism? it doesn't justify, i'm not talking about from a moral perspective. i'm talking about, just, it is a necessary consequence. we have white rhinos and black rhinos in nature, but if the white rhinos are going extinct, we seek to preserve that, it's a perfectly natural thing, we want to preserve the beautiful diversity of human development, and if there's a mathematical reason to suspect... that's not what's happening here. the white population is a majority, is a vast majority. it certainly is, but it's also the fastest declining population in britain. (sigh) we... we can't let the white british

people become a minority. (billiard balls click) how do you feel about being called propaganda officer? it's an accurate description of my role. but propaganda to me means that you're projecting a biased view. isn't that what it means in general? i'm biased towards my own political ideology, just as the conservatives are biased towards conservative. it's a genuine belief, i don't believe there are... that's the thing, i don't believe that the conservatives are biased just to their own view. they will look at other viewpoints as well. (pub crowd chattering) do you generally believe that the people would, you would gain support from the people about racism, about genocide, getting rid of other cultures, other people with other beliefs like jews in world war two?

can you see how that would be scary? i do, we are only being honest in what we believe. you said before that hitler was a bad apple, but oswald mosley wanted to be an ally with him. not an ally, he just didn't want war. there's a difference. like, allying with someone... but wasn't he fond of him? i wouldn't say it was something that was a fondness that mosley didn't have heaps more for for mussolini and rivera and so on. i sensed jack was uncomfortable admitting to the atrocious principles of the nbu, and struggled to repackage the group's image to the current times from its 1930s pro-nazi views. his views had led him to an isolated world, causing him to keep a part of his life hidden from his family and friends. i couldn't help feeling sorry for jack, wondering if he was being groomed

by his seniors in the nbu. i arrived in birmingham, home to one of the largest muslim populations in britain. the football lads alliance were rallying at the heart of the city against what they called islamist extremism. there were rumours nbu leader gary raikes would be here. unable to spot him, i came across a white nationalist identitarian leafleting. he didn't want to talk to me, so instead i looked for anne marie waters, invited to speak at the rally. hello, anne marie, how are you doing? you're the voice of our people, and a brilliant voice you've got, darling. it's a brilliant voice you've got. thank you very much. you're seen as a bit of a celebrity here, - aren't you? - only here.

it's all a bit overwhelming really. but i try not to think about it too much, just think about the job i have to do. i don't know if anti-fa are gonna be here today, but march against racism's going to be here. what do you think about them? why is a march against racism opposing us? this has got nothing to do with racism. i wasn't convinced anne marie was oblivious to the belief that she was racializing a religious community. it's absolutely insane that the media is so focused on people like me. her like-minded colleague tommy robinson also made a presence. (crowd chattering) hello, mate. - you all right? - how are you? i've been better. free speech, free speech! do you think you're out of the spotlight a bit? tommy, hello, i'm aran, would it be okay to have a chat latter? yeah, yeah, cool, mate. yeah, yeah, no, it's good. (crowd shouting)

ready? sorry, guys. while tommy agreed to talk to me, i lost him amongst the crowd and heard he and ukip leader gerard batten had joined the fla splinter group named the democratic fla. we're living in a very dark time in this country's history, a really dark time. we live in a country where the police spend more time on twitter than they do on jihadis. we have to bring down the european union and we will bring it down! (crowd applauds) fuck the eu! there's another one, another big issue, and that of course is islam. you will offend moderate muslims with your language. well, i'm sorry, but millions of decent british people are offended by this religion and the poison it's bringing into our country. (applause) (italian opera music)

the street movement and its eventual successor, the dfla, were being called the new english defence league. and again, tommy robinson was the leading figure for its protestors. known to accommodate football hooligans in high numbers, this is britain's biggest anti-muslim and anti-immigrant mobilisation. i imagined anne marie saw them as potential voters for her political party. you have our official support. like her, so did ukip leader gerard batten, who also allowed party membership to tommy robinson. (mellow music) britain's eu exit deal had contributed to anti-establishment sentiment in national populists and the internet was their haven for getting politically organised. a sophisticated network unified ultra-nationalists

across europe and the u.s., catering the message of preserving the indigenous white culture. i was going to meet one of its prominent architects, a former ukip parliamentary candidate in liverpool. how you doing, jack? how's it going? good, good. nice to meet you. nice to meet you. good seeing you. how do you do? he's allegedly the spin doctor for 'irexit', ireland's exit from europe, and his name is jack sen. so back from, obviously, ireland. - ireland, yeah. - yes, how was it? - it was good? - yeah? - good trip, yeah. - good. a lot of work, we're working with an irish nationalist organisation that's looking to push for irexit, which is the equivalent of brexit. right, and how's that coming along? well, i basically built the website. i still live here, like legally. yes. but because of the problems we have, we felt it was just easier to stay there. because of the nature of this sort of politics,

the idea of pressing legislation the way you would, social services would get involved with children for nationalists, we have children obviously. they're gonna pass a new law where extremists can lose their children. it was actually for islamic extremists, but they've kind of extended it to also mean anybody deemed to be extreme. and, the london met leader actually said, far-right extremists. jack had concerns about authorities knowing where he is, and it looked like it was because of his beliefs. i think islamic people are culturally in-assimilable. i don't believe that there's any place for mosques in great britain, personally i don't believe there is. i believe that they're, i mean... how many mosques do you think there should be in britain? how many should there be? zero. zero. a hundred percent zero. there shouldn't be one mosque in great britain. i would see that as complete religious intolerance. it's a christian country, this one, it's a part of christendom. europe, the natives, have a right to fight back. i don't wanna really harp on muslims, i think that all forms of immigration