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♪ >> this is dw news, i from berlin. the palestinian health authorities as an explosion in a hospital has killed nearly 500 people. hamas blames an israeli airstrike. israel in the usa the evidence points to a rocket misfired by palestinian militants. also coming up, joe biden wraps up a visit to tel aviv with agreement from israel that it will allow humanitarian aid into
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gaza from egypt. ♪ to our viewers on pbs in the united states and all of your around the world, welcome. it's good you happy with us. gaza has hamas run health ministry said 471 people were killed and exposed in a hospital in the territory. hamas is blaming an israeli airstrike. the u.s. and president biden's own say a rocket misfired by palestinian militants was responsible. for now there has been no independent verification for either claim. >> this is where the sick are supposed to be healed. instead, the arab hospital in gaza city has become the latest casualty in a conflict that is
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costing so many lives, hundreds died in this attack. >> we were just sitting here, and suddenly there was an explosion. the glass shattered on us. many people were killed. >> many of those caught up in the blast were palestinians who had been seeking refuge. >> this place was a safe haven for women and children who fled israeli shelling near the hospital. they sell this place as a refuge for them to feel safe and secure. there was no advance warning before targeting the hospital. there were more than 3000 people here. for whom this place was a safe haven. >> the terrorist group hamas, which rules gaza, blamed israel for the attack.
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anti-israel protests have been held across the palestinian territories, including the city of ramallah in the west bank. but the israeli army says it has proof the attack was carried out by another palestinian militant group, islamic jihad, and that israel is being unfairly blamed. >> it was the time of 6:59 p.m. when there were reports of an explosion at the hospital in gaza city. according to our intelligence, hamas checked the reports and they decided to launch a global media campaign to hide what really happened. >> gazans meanwhile are left to pick up the pieces from the
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night before, knowing this conflict is far from over. nicole: justin crump is a security analyst at risk advisory company in london and i asked him what he made of the situation. >> as you say, it's a tragic situation there, there is a certain amount of confusion as ever on the battlefield and this environment in terms of allocating blame, and in previous instances that happened in gaza, it has taken years to work out what happen and of course there are no investigators on the ground now looking at this. the israeli story does have a lot of evidence and a lot of merit to back it up. there was a rocket that was misfired over the hospital at the time and every expert i have spoken to feels it thus support
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the size of rocket that was talked about from islamic jihad. the real point is the way it has been viewed and the scenes we have seen after it in parts of the middle east, the evident anger in many parts of the world. i don't think that is going to change, whatever the assessment subsequently is, it will be impossible to know fully. nicole: president biden maeda visit to show support and also to de-escalate. do you think he succeeded in doing that? >> the real blow to biden's visit was the fact that he could not visit the palestinian leaders he was supposed to see in jordan. it is amazing to see the president of the united states flying into an active war zone, i think that was a very bold move and very important. the strong message that israel cannot forget the suffering of
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the palestinian people in this, and it is no good fighting a war against hamas and forgetting about the palestinians themselves, and actually delivering to hamas what they sought to achieve, which is victimization of the people of gaza and increased anger against israel. i think that makes the effort toward humanitarian support very clear. we will wait to see now if they follow through on the ground in gaza. nicole: biden called on the israeli government to not repeat the mistakes the u.s.-made in the wake of 9/11. you hinted at it there, what would be the biggest mistake israel could make? is it really the sustained civilian suffering in the gaza strip? >> yes, this is what we call the center of gravity for israels war effort. i think there was a failure to recognize this, the same way after 9/11 we fail to recognize what al qaeda had sought to achieve with the attack in the united states, which was to sock
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the u.s. into an unwinnable conflict that created more enemies than the u.s. could deal with. this is pretty much exactly what hamas has sought to achieve. it comes from a nation that has gone through this and has recognized that you can just tackle a problem like this, no matter how vengeful you are and how justly terrified the population is. you need to think more widely and not do what your enemy wants you to do. that is the strong message being delivered. nicole: israel says it plans to destroy hamas. given everything you just laid out, is that an attainable goal? >> not just purred -- purely mirror terribly. it was clear that a military solution alone will not defeat terrorism. you need a comprehensive approach.
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the other tools around it, the diplomacy, the humanitarian aid, the approach to the problem is what makes it something that can also be managed. it's like a war on crime, you never actually get rid of it, you have to control it, manage it, and gain support. it's a simple statement to detroit hamas, but that will be difficult to do. we will see in evolution of how israel approaches it. it certainly affects how the palestinians are looked after. nicole: justin, always great speaking to you. thank you so much. u.s. president joe biden has wrapped up a visit to tel aviv with agreement from israel that it will allow limited humanitarian aid to enter gaza from egypt. israeli government says supplies can get to civilians in the south of gaza, provided they do
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not reach hamas. he said he would be asked -- asking congress for what he called unprecedented support for israel and palestinian civilians. >> even before landing in tel aviv, joe biden's visit was upended by events in gaza. he was there to show his unwavering support for israel and to persuade leaders to minimize the humanitarian catastrophe. but he emphasized that he had israel's back. pres. biden: i was deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion at the hospital in gaza. based on what i've seen it was done by the other team and not you. >> there's only one thing better than having a true friend like you standing with israel, and that is having you standing in
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israel. your visit here is the first visit of an american president in israel in a time of war. >> biden also to have secured a deal to finally bring much-needed humanitarian support to the people of gaza pres. biden:. today i asked the israeli cabinet i met with for some time this morning to create the safe delivery of humanity -- lifesaving humanitarian aid to civilians in gaza. and the aid should go to civilians, not hamas. >> the president also announce 100 million dollars in assistance for palestinians in gaza and the west bank. the trip was into calm the region, but the blame game over who bears responsibility for hundreds of deaths and a gaza hospital has done the opposite. after the explosion, jordan called off a planned summit with the u.s. president, leading
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biden's diplomatic tour cut short. nicole: protest have erupted across the middle east over israel's bombing of the gaza strip. hundreds gathered in the egyptian capital cairo and also demanded an end to the blockade denying gaza residents access to food, water, and power. thousands of supporters of hezbollah rallied in lebanon. the group has engaged in border clashes with israeli forces since the attacks on october 7 and despite a heavy police presence, protest also flared in the jordanian capital amman. i spoke to paul salem, president of the middle east institute. i ask him how volatile the situation is there. >> definitely the situation in the west bank has been worsening in the last nine or 10 days. there has been increasing violence there. there has been around 60
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palestinians killed, largely from settler activity in the west bank. a lot of palestinian protests of course and blaming the palestinian authority, basically being very weak in the situation. i think the situation on the west bank is serious, but not as dangerous and serious as it might be across the lebanese-israeli border where you have a big military force which is hezbollah, which conceivably would join a conflict in the future. nicole: what can realistically he done to prevent that from happening? >> i think the strategy -- in a way, as your previous caller for the journalist was talking, the attack by hamas which most likely was coordinated in coordination with hezbollah, was designed to provoke a very large
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israeli reaction. so far, in a way you can say things have been going according to plan, they are drawing israel into a major operation in gaza. they are drawing it to a land invasion which probably by their assessment is an invasion that israel cannot win decisively. so we are still in territory where probably hamas and hezbollah feel things are going according to plan. in such a case, i don't think hezbollah and iran would need to open a second front. i think they will await developments to unfold in gaza and there is both a military and the political track. politically, already hamas and hezbollah have been able to be -- begin shifting arab public opinion in a certain direction against normalization against the abraham accords and all of that. and sympathy for the
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palestinians, and militarily, the battle has not yet started. nicole: a lot of concern we are seeing about the gazan civilians caught in the middle of the fighting, currently trapped in the besieged gaza strip. both egypt and jordan refused to take in palestinians from gaza. why is that? >> well, the palestinians themselves are aware that in previous expulsions, palestinians who have fled to jordan and lebanon, weather was in 1948 or 1956 or 1967, were never allowed to return to their homes or villages. so it's a very existential moment for palestinians in gaza, many of whom are already refugees from their original towns and villages in pre-1948 palestine. while they want a safe haven, at the same time they are aware if they leave their homes and towns
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in gaza they will not be allowed back in. similar, egypt and jordan, out of understanding or respect for their palestinian -- a general position that they don't want to be exiled from their country again. both egypt don't want to be saddled or have a whole expulsion again of palestinians, and then they would have to deal with them themselves. so it is a more profound issue about the future palestinians in the absence of a two state solution. the absence of any positive pathway means the only option is expel more palestinians, which is not a solution. nicole: it might be hard question to answer, but israel has vowed to crush hamas. if and when that happens, what is the plan for gaza? >> exactly, that is a very big question that no one has a clear answer to.
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obviously before that, the big question is, can they do that? they can hurt them and their capacities, but short of a complete invasion and occupation of gaza, short of that, i don't think they will defeat hamas. but even if they do have a complete occupation and defeat hamas, then there's a question of the day after. israel doesn't want to be stuck again having to manage and occupy 2.2 million palestinians with an extended occupation that will be very difficult to sustain. and frankly, no other power or authority is likely to want to shoulder that burden in the wake of such a massive war. there have been some discussions and suggestion from turkey and others that maybe there could be some sort of multinational force that will come in and take over, but i see that as a very remote possibility and certainly we haven't seen anything serious in that direction. nicole: paul salem, thank you so
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much for those insights. great speaking to you. police are investigating an attack on a synagogue here in berlin. they say two people through bottles filled with llama bull liquid at the building. chancellor olaf scholz has vowed to fight anti-semitism on german soil. authorities are stepping up security at jewish institutions. >> in the heart of berlin, the jewish community woke up to the news they have dreaded. in the night, they were targeted and what police are calling an attempted arson. >> i feel very frightened. i feel the atmosphere is extremely escalated. jews feel like they can be attacked any time. >> as if to underline that
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point, police arrested a man shortly after the attack who approached the synagogue screaming anti-israel slogans. he was later released. it's pure rage, uncontrolled rage, and desire to be part of a big movement against the jews, and that's what scares me. across berlin, authorities are on high alert. on tuesday, police clash with demonstrators in a neighborhood with a large arab community. men threw stones, bottles, and fireworks at police, who used water cannons to disperse the crowd. elsewhere, police formed a protective shield around the holocaust memorial after a pro-palestinian crowd gathered nearby to vent their anger after an explosion at a hospital on the gaza strip. the head of the office for the protection of the constitution is warning the situation could get even worse.
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it is indeed the case that the radicalization is progressing. the emotional is asian of people with palestinian backgrounds -- although i don't want to put them all under general suspicion, talking about people from islamist groups, and depending on how the situation in israel and the gaza strip actually develops, it may be that the mood heats up even more. >> back at the synagogue, police have put up restrictions around the area. in germany, attention is shifting to intensifying security around the centers of jewish life. nicole: mid human alvarez joins us from our studio here in berlin. there has been an increase in anti-semitic attacks in germany. is there since that authorities are doing enough to protect the
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jewish community here? benjamin: that's right, there has been an increase since october 7, until october 15, there have been more than 200 anti-semitic incidents in germany according to a new report from the department for research and information on antisemitism. not all of them are attacks like the one that happened last night when these men threw gasoline. the new research points out that those -- along with an increased police protection that we already saw shortly after this terror attack, if we think of the german president who visited a synagogue and interior
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minister who said the protection of jewish citizens in germany is a top priority, a high priority for the government. we also see the governments efforts to target organizations run by hamas sympathizers, and groups that celebrated these attacks by handing out suites in southern berlin. just an example of what politicians are doing, and with -- we can expect there will be increased attack of jewish institutions. nicole: how have they justified that, considering the constitutional right to protest and freedom of speech? benjamin: there is indeed a difficult balance have to find. on one side, the right to protest, on the other side grounds of public safety. if there are fears that at certain protest there will be incitement, hate speech or the denial of the rod of existence
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of israel, banning protests is considered the last resort. we have seen clashes with police, yesterday we also saw clashes and are seeing flashes with the police today in berlin as authorities are moving to break up these gatherings. some of them are spontaneously and quickly broken up by police. a few hours ago police in berlin spoke of the heated atmosphere in a district in southern berlin. they said that fireworks and stones were thrown at police. it is difficult, the balance have to find. every protest is analyzed separately and some told us it was inappropriate to try to restrict the protest because as he said, most of them are also against the war, against violence and attempts to violate international law. nicole: benjamin alvarez, thank you so much. the carnage at the hospital in
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gaza has brought angry reaction in turkey too. anke has allowed three days of morning. the turkish president is a fervent supporter of the palestinian cause. hundreds of people have joined him in straight and's and the capital of ankara and istanbul. >> it has been a night of rage here in istanbul. police used tear gas and water cannons to disperse crowds. protesting outside the israeli consulate, some tried to storm the building. others through fireworks and stones. the protesters blame israel for the deadly blast at a hospital in gaza city. >> we feel deeply sorry for the palestinians. they are not alone. we are with them. >> people are being killed in
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hospital. women and children. we got to wake up. the palestinian people have been struggling for the past 70 years, and you turned a blind eye on them. >> turkish president erdogan was also quick to assign blame. he called the hospital blast the latest example of israel's attacks, devoid of the most basic human values. we law, the israeli military says it can prove that a rocket launched by the palestinian militant group islamic jihad is to blame. in any case, consequences for ties between turkey and israel could be dire. recently erdogan has been working to repair relations with israel, which is long suffered from his support for the palestinians. a few weeks ago, at the un's general assembly in new york, he even met prime minister benjamin netanyahu it in person for the
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first time. but now the fragile rapprochement could be over. >> what we are starting to see increasingly is our one and the governments of turkey taken a strong anti-israeli position to the extent that i think erdogan is more interested in abandoning the so-called lukewarm rapprochement, which was never credible and realistic to begin with. >> one of the major regions analysts say is already wants relationship with the islamist hamas. it just in july he held talks with the hamas political leader. the two men have met many times over the years and israel has accused turkey of providing a safe haven to members of the group. during his more than two decades in power, erdogan has always been a fervent supporter of the palestinian cause and it resonates well with many here in turkey. to this day he refuses to classify hamas as a terrorist organization, unlike most of his western allies.
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>> turkey is a central actor that enables hamas activities on an international scale. erdogan systematically ensured that hamas don't office space, diplomatic recognition, and harboring of hamas leaders and operators inside of turkey. >> following the hamas atrocities in israel on october 7, erdogan has been trying to use his ties with the militant group to play a mediating role. turkish officials say they are negotiating the release of hostages held by hamas in the gaza strip. but how much influence does art wants government have? --'erdogans government have? >> that remains to be seen. turkey offering itself as a mediator between israel and the hamas authorities is insincere, simply because turkey's relationship with israel is tenuous at best. the israeli authorities do not
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trust the intentions of erdogan. >> while pro-palestinian groups are calling for more protests in the coming days, israel has told its citizens to leave turkey immediately, amid fears of reprisal attacks. nicole: stay with us, after a short day, i will be back to take you through the day, and we will be looking at the situation in the middle east. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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france 24. i am mark owen, these are the headlines. joe biden said israel did not fire the missile of the destroyed the hospital. he said the strike appeared to come from the other team. there are protests across the muslim nations in the wake of the strike on the hospital in gaza.

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