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>> more than a million children in gaza face daily attack from israeli bombs and missile. more than 3,000 have been killed in a week. what's the impact of israel's war on palestinian children? this is "inside story." ♪ >> hello, there. i'm james bays. mogaza's children have been
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cut by 7,000. the noise of aircraft overhead would have children scurrying for excitement to scan the skies. in gaza that's the sound of death in a place where childhood is scared by siege and war. for those who survive israel's attacks, the long-term impact is almost unimaginable. we'll be discussing this with our panel of guests. but first this report from victoria. victoria: abu catrice body of his nephew through the streets in southern gaza. the health ministry says more than 3,000 palestinian children like elias have been killed since october the 7th. [speaking foreign language] >> this is one of my nephews. my brother's wife and children were all killed. elias was killed two weeks ago. because all the border crossing
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are closed we couldn't go in there for medical reasons and he died. there's no medicine for efficient treatment. the doctors did their best. victoria: children make up ga gaza's 2.3 million. 400 children are being killed or injured in israeli attacks every single day. [speaking foreign language] >> travel israeli army is recording victories over children knowing that it will not achieve its goal. god is our own solace. >> agencies have documented trauma in palestinian children long before this war began. the israeli occupation and blockade, previous conflicts and the covid pandemic are some of the challenges they've endured in their short lives. now, they face a battle for
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survival in a place where the u.n. civil order has collapsed. >> gaza is at the risk of diseases are looming. gaza is being strangled. the people of gaza feel shunned, alienated and abandoned. victoria: gaza's one million children are being injured or killed, and collectively punished, innocent victims in an increasingly brutal war. victoria gatenbey for "inside story." anchor: let's bring in our guest to discuss all this. it's tanya hash hissan, a doctor who worked in gaza. she co-founded gaza medic voices that shares firsthand testimonies from healthcare workers in the strip. in occupied e east
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jerusalem. and our war journalist who spent her childhood in gaza. thank you for spending your time with us. if i can start with you, jason, just to get some context here about the population of gaza. 2.3 million people, but about half are children, is that right? jason: absolutely. you have the majority of people of civilianslying in gaza now being a -- civilians in gaza being children. 1.3 million people have fled gaza. there's no place in gaza that is safe right now. the bombardments have continued in the north and the south. the civilian death toll has hit more than 7,000 cecilvilleians almost 3,000 being children. we are having a situation where
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one child is killed every 13 minutes. that's one child every 13 minutes. the vast numbers of civilians have been injured more than 18,500. every conflict disproportionately affecting children. children are paying the heaviest price with their lives, with being injured, and not to mention the scars that they will carry with them for the remainder of their lives. >> dr. tanya, we're talking about a million children who are in gaza under this relentless israeli bombardment. three weeks in, we have 3,000 children killed. that means israel in three weeks killed about 1,000 children a week. this is the fifth gaza war, we saw hor horrors from those previous wars, did you think it could every get to h?
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-- this? >> i don't think anybody's mind should go there. it's really horrific. unicef rereleased report. this is 700 children ago. since then we have had 700 further children die. they said "the situation in the gaza strip is a collective strain on our conscious." the death is simply staggering. moster most people who listen to the news in that region would react. it's -- it's -- it's staggering and it is a stain on our co collective conscience. these aren't just numbers. you know, these are children with families, parents who love things siblings, identities, hopes, dreams, subjectively in our world, and there's a risk to reducing their numbers because we get habituated. but just like israeli children have biographies, identities and
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hopes, and they have been shared with us, over 3,000 children -- i want to clarify that number is the children that we're able to count in those statistics. there are over 900 children in the gaza strip that are missing right now, missing from that figure because their bodies have not been able to be retrieved from turn rubble. so we're talk about over 4,000 children likely that the point. and i completely agree with unicef, this is a growing stain on our collective conscience. are -- anchor: these are friends and family members. >> yara: i lost 41 members of my families and colleagues -- >> can i please express my condolences? this is awful. yara: and from the 41 members of my family, you know, 17 of them are children.
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and those children were really loved, you know? they were the light in our family. i used to baby sit most of them. whenever i wept back home, i would -- i would be -- went back home, i would be the baby sirte, you know? i had so many memories from them. every single one of them had dreams. every single one of them had a special character. and they were very cheerful despite what they were living through. children was the reason i wanted to become a journalist in the first place, because you know, usually their voices those are not heard. they're unable to articulate what they're living through. as a kid myself, i felt that. i felt like the whole world doesn't care about me as a palestinian kid. i generally think that israel stole my childhood, all of my memories from being a kid, israel stained my childhood. i was 14 years old when i saw
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people getting cut into pieces in front of my eyes. i was only 8 years old when i first experienced terror, you know, attacks on my school. i remember, i will never forget, i was doing my arabic final exam. i was in grade three. next to our school, there was a very severe bomb, and i remember my teachers just panicking and seeing all of the children crying. and this was the first aggression in gaza. right now we're in 2023 and we're seeing this is the sixth aggression since 2008. and palestinians in gaza, you know, the kids if we're only going to, you knower, look at the kids every single one of them, more than 90% of palestinian children are, you know, suffering from ptsd, me included and my brother as well and most of my relatives for that matter. most of the kids in my family.
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it did not just start on the 7th of october. this has been my whole life. i grew up with the thought of bombs more than the sounds of birds. i grew up scared of the sound of airplanes. there's airplanes a lot in london and i'm suffering from severe ptsd that even when the fire alarm goes off or any loud noise triggers me i've been trying to get treatment for my ptsd and i'm not even close to getting treated from what i've seen and the horrific atrocity that has been committed between me an my people. -- and my people. i feel lucky to be alive. every child never felt that they can be, you know, alive for the next moment or not. >> jason, we mentioned lots of figures at the the start of this
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figure. we know it's about 3,000. the figure may be much higher. it's worth bringing up the fact that there have been challenges to those figures. president biden saying that the palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed. he went on, i'm sure innocents are being killed. it's the price of waging war. can i ask you about the figures because after he said that the ministry of health produced this which is a list of all those who died, a very detailed list with all of the names of those that have been killed and all of their details. from your perspective, from -- from your organization, save the children, what do you make of these official statistics that from the ministry of public health? can they be accurate? >> the fact that authorities have been running the gaza strip. and when you look at previous escalations that have be many. the figure that is have been
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released in gaza and ministry officials, when you compare those to the u.n. figures that are released, they're pretty much identical. there are slight variations but these are very small in number. but they're pretty much accurate. what would we look through? historical evidence on what has the ministry been producing and increased escalations with what the u.n. numbers are. there is no discrepancy between them. so the figure na are being used are the one that is are until now have not been shown to be discredited. unfortunately, the previous escalations that have taken place in gaza. anchor: one of the most disturbing things that i've heard and there's so much disturbing things that we're cop assume is the fact that families are hit inning their children up so a whole family doesn't get wiped out and also that parents are writing children's names on their arms so if they are
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killed, they can identify and they are putting identity bracelets on their children. this is shocking. >> you know, this is not first time that this is happening. unfortunately, sit the most brutal, -- it is the most brutal attack on gaza ever. children are literal willly more than 70% of all the people that have been killed and casualties children and women. so what's happening is a clear violation of international law. but this has been my life, you know? i remember in 2014, my mother is a u.n. staff member -- honorable staff member. and she had to be working to help the refugees who are, you know, being displaced and seeking shelter. and schools that are supposed to be safe. but israel keeps bombing the honorable schools. nowhere in gaza is actually safe. even then, my mom took my brother with her in 2014 and i
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had to stay with my father. even as a 14-year-old i was like no, mama, i was crying. i need to be together as a family. yara if me and my brother get killed you and your dad have to be alive, you know? we have to split you. and this is just my story, my family, complete families are doing the same thing, you know? splitting their families half. and sometimes even if they split the family in half, the whole family is being fried the civil registry. so many families have been completed obliterated. only from my family, 41 members. you can imagine -- my family is a big family, but you can imagine all of the other families that are smaller, you know, this -- this writing -- children -- when i think about it -- when i think back to my childhood and i relive the trauma they was living, i honestly cannot even put it into words what i felt as a child,
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you know? i didn't even understand what this meant. i didn't understand the destruction, i didn't understand my parents, you know? try to -- to -- to make me understand what's happening. but you know, only it was when i was 14 that i realized what losses meant and when i was really, you know, caught in a massacre and i survived by american that that's when i realized what it means in be between the life and death situation, you know? and so many of these children are having to, you know, age. they're not children any more. they're having one of my children -- one of my cousin's children, she's the only survivor from her whole family. her three sisters, both parents, hala is only 1 years old. she's going to grow up without any member of her family. her uncles and aunts were killed. until now, i'm unable to talk to her. i don't know what to tell her.
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i don't know what she's feeling. i kent imagine what she has to go through. her sisters, her memory. she's only 8. she has to live the rest of her life without her parents and her sisters, you know? and those pictures are not only heartbreaking but as the doctor said, you know, it is a stain on our consciousness and it is a stain of humanity for letting this continue for more than like, you know, 20 days. it's not like one massacre that has been committed in one day and we could have stopped it no, israel continues to massacre children. the figures are continuing to increase. we're seeing horrific accounts from journalists on the ground risking their only lives to produce these graphic pictures of children, pictures that only break hearts -- i'm literally able to sleep since the aggression started. barely sleep three hours a day because of the pictures that haunt me.
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the world is just watching. biden is there giving the green light to israel to continue what they're doing. massacring the children, you know? and i'm shocked, you know? i never thought -- i genuinely thought, you know, our world can't be this horrible. everything in palestine feels like this is not our world. but i don't know. anchor: let me bring in tanya on this. because we've talked about the bombardment. but of course, the other factor here is the aid not getting in, very limited aid. and the specific that they're not letting in is future future. how important is to keep fuel to run incubators for newborn babys? >> thank you for that question. i just want to address a couple of things that were shared in the last few minutes by my
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co-speakers today. you know, just in reference to what yara was saying earlier, and to put things in context, a child of age 11 today would have lived through four major bombardments up until point. and then in reference to something else that we were just discussing, you know, there's this deep sense of being alone by gazans and palestinians so colleagues who have sent messages saying we feel like today two days ago one of our colleagues sent us a message that said we feel like to whole world have come together to eliminate us. and the world is deaf to our suffering. i think -- first of all, that should be very alarming to the people listening to this program today. but i also think it's reflective of a particular type of -- of psy-- of psychological
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trauma. one of my colleagues today said in gaza said the whole world is watching us getting massacred on tv. and just silently watching. and so just in reference to the -- the number question that you provided to jason from save the children, you know, i think discrediting the deaths is part of that dehumanization. so i just wanted to make that point and thank you for allowing me the opportunity to speak. anchor: on the specifics of not allowing fuel in as a doctor, how is that going to impact the medical situation on the ground? >> so just for context, fuel operates everything from the ambulances to go to collect people from under the rubble to go pick up pregnant women who are delivering or -- or other who are having heart attacks,
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you know? we rely on our paramedic services in normal times. you can imagine in times of crisis like this how important having fuel for that is. fuel is needed to bring the aid, the very little aid that is coming in to the locations that's needed to be delivered to. and then on a hospital level, fuel operates just about -- or electricity actually more accurately, are operates just about everything in my subspecialty which is critical care from ventilators to monitors to infusion pumps. without those things you cannot run an intensive care unit. and without those things patients who are without electricity -- and i want to make the distinction between electricity and fuel. fuel is really what's needed to operate the generators which in preoctober 7th times are the backup system for the hospitals' electricity. i would be needed to operate
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ventilators if a patient is needing a ventilator. those patients will die. sit a death sentence. they're unable to breathe. they suffocate, they die. the same is true for people who are dependent on dialysis. there are about 1,000 patient who are dependent on dialysis if we cannot opener those, those patients unfortunately will die. the same is true for neo natal units where newborn babies are where they're often in breathing machines. the fuel has run out those newborn premature babys will die. we know there are more than 130 of them. and so it's essentially a lack of fuel is an ultimate death sentence on multiple levels. i sort of talked about the hospital intensive care level of things. but there's also, you know,
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bakeries have closed down because they don't have fuel to operate the bake rhys. and bakeries are needed to provide fuel. water desal nation plants cannot function because again, they need electricity to desalinate water. even gaza's internal abilities to provide drinking water are -- are stifled. anchor: let me bring in jason now on this because the other additional factor to all of this is that there are people on the move everywhere in gaza in part because israel is threatening them telling them they have to move but also they're trying to find somewhere safe and clearly there is no safe place in gadsa. i looked at some of the u.n. statistics they said about a million people displaced. include 4,750 pregnant women requiring medical attention and the u.n. saying they're identify acute respiratory and diarrhea among children under 5.
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tell us about those who aren't in hospital but those who aren't under medical care and the ordeal they're facing, jason. jason: the estimate is 1.4 million people are sheltering wherever they can. in schools, facilities, public buildings, hospitals. the infrastructure that people are moving to in the south and those that remain in the north cannot cope with the numbers of people. there are 650,000 that's a huge amount of people trying to shelter in the south. it was not built for that capacity. many of the shelters are hosting up to four times as many people as they were built for. that means there's no food in it. inadequate supplies of food, inadequate quarter and bathroom facilities. there are 16 bathrooms for about 25,000 people. and there's no water. there's no water to maintain
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hygiene practice. there's no water to drink. fuel is critical to insure that the desal nation plants work to bring up the ground water. civilians and children are resorted to drinking brackish water because there's not enough fresh water for them to drink. now, even in the south, many people are still remaining in the north because it has not been safe for them to move. despite the evacuation orders to move to the south, the journey to the south is perilous. my own family had to flee from the north to take shelter in the south. anchor: we had a warn in recent hours from the head of unra that deals with palestinians. the commissioner general fill leap lazarinni and he said there's a risk of serious disease and starvation.
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>> that is certainly true. you have thousands of people sheltering in environment that is are meant for a very small fraction of that number sharing the same lavatories and drinking unhygienic water. there's been a spike in diarrhea disease illness among children in the gaza strip. we don't have reports of cholera yet. but an outbreak of control would be catastrophic. unfortunately, it's not uncommon at off so creation i think we know there's been an uptick in chicken pox and other cont contagiouses as a consequence of people living close together in these types of setting. anchor: i would like to give the last word to yara. yara, given what we're hearing
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the desperate stories about the plight of people in particular the children of gaza, if you were able to speak to president biden on behalf of the children in gaza, what would you tell the president of the united states right now? p yara: well, certainly i will start by saying that i'm shocked by your actions. you have blood in your hands. you have literally not only aiding a genocide and ethnic cleansing of gaza and that most of them are children. they're being orphaned or being killed. but even if we think this is -- there's an immediate cease-fire which you have as president, you have such a responsibility as a world leader but not only as a world leader but the president of one of the strength and most powerful countries in the world, you have a responsibility, you know, with all of your freedom
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of speech, things, and the right and how you talk about democracy. as a democracy you claim your democracy, how are you aiding this against the children. you've been vetoing a cease-fire for palestinians in gaza, you know, even if there's a cease-fire, these children their lives, you know, it's scared forever. and i'm one of those children. i was once a child i've lived through these things. i've lost so many people from my family. i didn't even see my family for six years. en when i left gaza. it's not like that is new situation, you know? all of these lives -- all of these lives, all of these dreams, you are responsible for them -- for these things. you are doing exactly what israel is doing, you know? anchor: yara, thank you so much for your time. this was a most depressing
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conversation. but thanks so much to our panel for joining us. tanya, y ara and jason. you'll find more about the gaza war. you can watch this and our program if you go to al-ja al-jazeera.com. post your comments on our facebook page. you can tweet us although now it's called x not twitter. i'll be back in this chair very soon. from all the team here, stay safe. bye-bye for now.
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