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will work for him, the country and our children's future. on this idea, though it is my own, i say, hip, hip, hooray. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. more politics ahead with al sharpton. president obama goes prime time. tonight a live address to the nation from the white house. will he use that bully pulpit again? and speaker boehner runs out of gimmicks. the tea party is ready to pounce. plus, republicans running for president just made their job harder. a major snub could cost them. also, rick perry's controversial comments on gay marriage.ç and chris christie says no way it run it. so what's he doing in iowa? welcome to the show. i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead, president obama goes prime time.
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in three hours, the president will address the nation on the debt crisis. it comes as republicans reject another, yet another, fad deal from the democrats. today, senator harry reid offered a proposal that cuts the deficit, doesn't raise taxes, so surely speaker boehner is delighted, right? wrong. >> i believe that the plan is full of gimmicks and doesn't deal with the biggest drivers of our deficit and our debt, that would be entitlement programs. >> instead, boehner is pushing a short term proposal. which the white house and democrats say is a nonstopper. and up until a month ago, it was a nonstarter for republicans as well. >> the uncertainty that's out there is not going to be overcome by, you know, another little short term gimmick.
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>> i think the president put it best on friday. >> you know, at some point, i think if you want to be a leader, then you got to lead. >> joining me now, democratic strategist bob shrum. also from the washington post, dana mi dana millbank. bob, what do you think he will say tonight? >> we have come close to the same thing of thing with bill clinton and newt gingrich in 1995. i think he will say he has been reasonable and tried to meet thç republicans more than half way. he agreed to a grand bargain with john boehner. he agreed it other forms of doing this. all of which give the republicans something. but i think he will also draw a line. he will say he is willing to see some entitlement reforms. for example in medicare. but he is not willing to replace it with a program that will provide seniors with vouchers and cost them $6500 a year. he is not willing to see us move
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toward privatization of social security. and i think he's going to say the whole american economy son the line here. because as republicans themselves said, if you do this on a short term basis, you will rattle the markets. which by the way, is what boehner did after the markets sustained the day pretty well. and secondly, you will have higher interest rates for the government, for individuals and in the end you could end up with a bigger deficit. >> you mean what the republicans said before because they are saying something totally different now? >> yeah. said it for months. said it for months. >> dana, you cover politics as well or better than most. what politically does the president need to say tonight, and then what does he need it say in terms of what is good for the country and are they the same things? >> well, i think so at this point. i mean, the president's got to get back in control of this. there's a sense here in washington that is now being hammered out by john boehner and harry reid up on the hill.
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and the president sort of marginalized here. this is a very classic universities bully pulpit. and you know, i don't think he can say a whole lot beyond what he said before. i mean, a lot of people have hit him i think properly so for giving in on most every point. i mean he is essentially waved a white flag of surrender to the republicans and they say, haha, we refuse yoursurrender be we want even more. he has gone as far as he can, that much is very clear. this is more after reer toal thing he is doing no night than a policy statement. but that's one of power things a president can do. >> i was reading paul krugman and he said when you put medicare on the table, he had a quote that really resonated with a lot of people. according to many reports, i'm reading from his column, the president offered both means-testing of medicare benefits and a rise in the age of medicare eligibility. the first would be bad policy.
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the second would be terrible policy. and it would almost surely be terrible politics. dana, if he goes any further, i mean, i think that some of his base and a lot to the left, will just walk away. >> he can't go any further because he's basically already given everything up. he gave the republicans everything they wanted. the president had a revolt on his hands until john boehner walked out of these talks this weekend. he was in a great deal of trouble with his own base. so in that sense, politically, he was rescued by john boehner. that doesn't help the country right now as we -- as the following eight days. i think there's is a real sense that because of the brinkmanship, neither side can afford to say, okay, we agree
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because they will be blamed by both of their sides of caving in. >> is this snatching the defeat out of the jaws of victory? they can't just say yes. eric cantor himself, let's look at this, eric cantor himself, talked about you can't have short terms. i don't sdu, according to him, i don't see how multiple votes on debt ceiling increase can get us to where we want to go. to me, it is a case of having to make tough decisions. what happened to that eric cantor? >> well, that eric cantor i think would like to replace john boehner as speaker. but what really happened here, was that boehner and mcconnell and look w, i disagree with the but there are adults in the room or they act like adults in the room. dana is right, the president gave a great deal. he went a long way. there's a big difference between requiring higher co-payments for a wealthy medicare recipients than saying everybody in medicare will pay $6500 more,
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which is the ryan plan. but president went that distance. and i think boehner went back it his caucus. he couldn't get the support. and so the speaker has now become a mouth piece for the tea party. and you're right and dana's right, i think in the end there has to be a deal, maybe there won't be, there has to be a deal, but it will come at the very last second. >> president may have said, let me throw it all on the table. let me rising everything. let me, as he said, show tough leadership. and they still wouldn't do it and maybe it was a chess move to show no matter what, this is about trying to bring a president down than to lift a nation up. could that have been the strategy, dana? >> you know, well, look, the president did give -- how much more could he have done? he gave the republicans everything they were looking for with the exception of saying, hey, come on, give me some face-saving gesture here. give me something on the tax revenue side. it was a pittance compared to the overall cuts. and say, no, we can't even give
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you that. so i think he succeeded in demonstrating. i think polls indicated given that his numbers are lousy but republicans are worse, that he is the guy who was the most generous in terms ofç concessis here. he has won that battle. but you know that and that and a few bucks will get him a coffee at starbucks. >> bob, let me ask you a question. suppose that the president walks in that east room tonight in prime time and said, all right, i've had a enough. i'm going to use the 14th amendment and i'm just going to go for it and let the court stop me. then what happens? >> well, if that happens, there is an attempt by the republicans. the republican members of congress to sue to take him to court. it is very hard to see when you listen to legal scholars, how any of them would have standing. how they can demonstrate that they individually have been hurt. the general consensus seems to be that there is no way it challenge the president in court.
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that is clearly something you do at the extreme, at the last moment. when people are playing political football with full faith and credit of the country. but president in order to get away that, would have to, tonight, make a really persuasive case to people building on the perception that he is reasonable and saying here is why we can't go further than this. it is going to kill your social security, your jobs, your medicare. >> well, i think he's been very good in the past at making persuasive arguments but just in case he doesn't feel up to it, we can always let boehner talk and that would convince everybody. thank you bob shrum, thank you dana millbank. thanks for your time this evening. joining me now is freshman republican congressman from south carolina, mick mull veiny. he is a member of the tea party. congressman, thank you for being here tonight. let me ask you, do you support the new boehner plan that we just heard? >> reverend, the honest answer is i don't know yet.
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i got the summary along with the rest of the republican conference just a couple of hours ago. one of questions i specifically asked was when could we see the entire bill. i've gotten aç nasty habit her of not relying too much on summaries wanting the actual bill language. we expect to see that before midnight tonight on-line. there are some things i liked in it, some things i didn't like under it, but the honest answer to your question is i don't know because i haven't seen the bill yet. >> you do know that several could be servetive groups and tea party groups have denounced it and said they don't think it's gone far enough. you are saying that you're not in that rank yet and you're not committing to the speaker yet. you're waiting it read the bill. >> i have no way to commit one way or another before i read the bill. i don't want to be premature and dismiss i might lake or say ultimately i don't like. i will wait and read the bill. >> fair enough. you and i are on different sides of the political spectrum. one of the things that people are really concerned about is
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the weight that this has, this decision has, that seems to be so caught up in partisan politics. i was reading, let me show you an article that nicholas christoph wrote into the new york times over the weekend, where he talked about if how china or iran threatened our national credit rating and tried to drive up the interest rates, if they sought to damage our education system, we would erupt in outrage. well, wake up. wake up to the national security threat that's happening. only it is not coming from abroad. it is coming from the own domestic extremists. we are facing something we wouldn't tolerate externally. can't we get beyond these partisan differences and extremes on both sides to deal with the fact that this is risking american standing in terms of the foreign markets, and services to our seniors, our young people? i mean, can't we get past this
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in terms of the bart zan bickering? >> reverend, to a certain extenç i agree with you. my question is, where have you and where the folks who think as the same as you, where they have been the last ten years when we have been running up this debt. you're right np the chairman joint chiefs of staff said it last year. he didn't say it about raising debt ceiling, he said it about the debt and deficit. this is a big deal and we should be moving on beyond politics. the difficulty is, i don't poe who will start doing that. we did it in the house last week when we had something bipartisan. in the white house now, we hear something, we have to do something to get us past the next election. mitch mcconnell, a member of my own party, i respect him, but giving to the president -- folks of all side that want it make politics out of this, there is a group in the middle that is finding something that actually will work. we had that last week with cap, cut and balance.
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>> congressman, i'm so happy you asked the question, where have we been. i will show you two graves where we been. under george bush, you said where we been the last ten years, under george bush we spent $5.7 trillion. we were out there saying don't spend money on a war where you don't have weapons of mass destruction. we say, don't give tax cuts to the wealthy. under president obama we have only spent $1.44 trillion. so we've been there ten years trying to tell people in the middle, and i'm glad ail after sudden you put the tea party in the middle, that it won't work. i will show you another graph. we of shocked when we look at the fact of the wealthy in the country, when you take the top richest in this country, look at this graph con gracongressman, m forbs, this is notç from me, tt the richest americans are making more than 60% of the bottom. that's where we've been.
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we say if you keep taking care of the rich, at the expense of the middle class, the poor get poorer, the rich get richer. that's where we've been. we've been waiting on people to hear that. you're in washington now. and you have an opportunity to say to your party, we can't keep protecting the fat guys at the top. we can't keep having this imbalance. let us come and protect the american people. that's where we've been. will you join that call? >> reverend, i apologize. i don't know if you recognize, i can't see the graves but i think i'm familiar with the ones you just described. if you are looking for somebody to defend george w. bush, you've come to the wrong place. >> that's refreshing. i'm glad to hear that. >> i happen to believe that the spending that my own party did between 200 and 2008 paved the by for spending we see in the last two years. and it is obscene on both parties. both of these parties are to blame. regarding defense spending, we will do that quickly. i introduced an amendment last week consist went the bipartisan
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commission that said can we at least freeze defense spending. i've been back home telling everybody what a significant spending problem we've got and we offer a defense budget just last week that increased the base defense budget by $17 billion. i offered an amendment to get rid of that. free spending a the 2011 levels. that the good news. the bad news is less than half agreed with me. >> what about the rich? you are saying everything music to my ears. bring it home for me congressman. will you say the rich needs to quit getting their tax cuts? >> can't do it reverend. >> oh, come on, cong)ssman, you can't balance the budget by making poor people pay and rich people get away. come on, close the loop holes. >> reverend, go back and look at the last time we balanced the budget. under your democrat, bill clinton. he didn't do it through tax
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increases. he reduced it. he dramatically reduced government spending. he reduced the side of the federal government. >> but he did not reduce the taxes to the point bush did other we wouldn't have had tax cuts under bush. when bush came in we were gh a surplus. when he left we were in a deficit. congress plan, if you stand up to the rich, just like if you said would you stand up to the defense, then you and i, i can go to south carolina and lep you out. i would support you in the primary. >> reverend, tell me if those are the same tax cuts obama supported last year. >> i don't care who supported them. i don't and you shouldn't. so let's be on the same side of the american people, not the rich. mick mull veiny, thanks for joining us this evening. >> thanks, reverend have a nice day. >> you too. after ripping republican leadership, president obama is in full command. what will he say tonight? plus, chris christie keeps
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we are better than that. >> president obama today calling for shared sacrifice and any deal put forth by both parties. he will make his case for a balanced approach to the american public once again tonight, in a prime time address. but joining me now, is someone very familiar with the administration. he is jarod bernstein former chief economist for vice president biden. now a senior fellow with the senior for budget and policy priorities. the president tonight? >> i expect the president to remind the american public of the stakes in this debate, of the extend to which he, more than really anyone else at the table, has bent over backwards to get a deal to avoid default, going deep into discomfort zone even for many democrats. then i expect him to contrast the two plans that are on the table right now. one offered by senator harry
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reid and the other by republican leader boehner. very different plans. the most important contrast the president will speak to tonight, is the fact that the boehner plan does not get this debt ceiling increased through 2012. it only has a short term increase that would leave us having the same exact debate a few months from now. and reverend if you want to have that debate again, a few months from now, you are a different person than i thought you were. >> here is the point. one, the republicans claim they didn't want a short term solution. >> that's right. >> now they have changed that. >> call that a gimmick. >> it's their gimmick though. but second point, aren't they playing politics to have it right in the beginning of the 2012 election? now, i don't know who's advising them, because the polls i'm seeing, the president's doing mediocre, they are doing terrible. i don't know why they would want
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to replay this in 2012. >> it is not a news flash they are playing politics here. here is a point i would like it make. i think this would resonate with you and our listeners. every minute we are obsessing about deficits and the debt and debt ceiling, a totally manufactured crisis by the way, we're not talking about jobs. >> right. >> and we are under a nation with a measuredç unemployment rate of 9% but you can dug dubl that easily if you want to capture the underemployed into the picture. everyday we are fretting. i don't care if you are democrat, independent, we are talking about jobs. if you want to keep obsessing about the problem, a long-term problem -- and not an immediate issue, then let's do this every month until the election. >> that's my question to you. are the republicans doing this on purpose so that it keeps the economy bad and it disattracts us from the real issue of talking about jobs?
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and job creation? i read you a lot on the huffington post and you keep bringing it up, but it is almost like overshadowed by people that are talking about everything that what the american poll of where is the jobs. the politics as much as the opportunity cost of continuing to focus on this. and i think you will hear that from the president tonight. and i would listen to the president tonight, to see if he suggest that he will veto, a deficit, that he will veto a debt ceiling increase that does not get us through 2012, ie, the boehner plan. >> so we can hear the president saying that he can veto a short term plan. we can even hear him say the 14th amendment which many people feel he will not go that far. but he clearly, in your judgment, is going to lay out the difference between the
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boehner plan. what about the reid plan? let's look at what the reid plan is and is not. reid's plan is, theç debt ceilg hike through 2012. let's go past the election he is saying. $2.7 trillion. no new revenue and no new entitlement cuts. how does that plan sound to you and why would the republicans not take that plan? there is no new taxes where we think could cancel tax cuts. they don't get any new taxes there at all and they get -- they are cut in terms of the entitlement. what is the problem? >> okay, so first of all, just to correct that last point, they don't get their entitlement cut in the replant. but you're absolutely right. there is no revenue, not a cent for miles around in the replan. this is a plan that i view as pretty darn imbalanced. by the way, i suspect the president viewes it the same
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way. he is consistently talking about the need because if you don't you put too much on the cut side of the equation and that does more harm than good. the republicans ought to take the reid plan. but you see reverend, it is matter of posturing, of leveraging, of politics. if they can keep the leveraging going month after month after month, we are not talking about jobs, we are not talking about economy and they are trying to jam the president in way that leads to considerable dysfunction in you're economy in erecent weeks. reid is far, far better. >> reid is saying we would cut the spending, not the -- you're right, not entitlements, but spending. jared bernstein thank you for joining me. i have to go. i'm up against a hard break. wisconsin governor scott walker says closing dmvs. save money. but he is just driving voters away.ç
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wisconsin's union busting governor scored a conservative victory this spring when he signed a voter id law that would likely depress turn out among democratic voters. but the law could have been even a bigger impact than expected. walker plans to close ten dmv offices in the next year. the remaining dmvs will have extended hours for people to get id cards. but that won't help wisconsin residents who live far away from a dmv office and those that don't drive. even without the dmv kploesh closures, the law would disinvost thousands of people since 12% of voters don't have government-issued ids then the law will cost wisconsin about $7 million to implement. which is funny since walker considered himself fiscally responsible. walker and his cronies claim they are fighting election fraud. but they are really making it
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joining me now, georgetown university professor and nbc political analyst, dr. michael eric dyson. also with me, christina bellantoni and matt lewis, senior contributor for the daily caller. can republicans say yes? our first question tonight, president said on friday, he doesn't know if the president -- i mean, if the republicans are capable of saying yes. that very question he raised after the republicans walked way from the budget talks.
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matt? >> one of the questions that the republican parties will have to ask itself is can they say yes to anything. where's the leadership, or alternatively, how seriously are you actually about debt and deficit reduction or do you simply want to as a campaign ploy going into the next election. >> gop lawmakers rejected every single democratic proposal. they even rejected the republican proposal from mitch mcconnell. michael is yes, a word not in the republican vocabulary and will the president address it tonight? >> iç think reverend sharpton that it seems they cannot say yes. no, no, no. the party of negativity. and on every deal put forth so far has been rejected by them. i'm hoping the president will not only address that squarely. i was hoping in my fantasy, in my greatest fantasies, they
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would be like smith and gadel a deal struck so now we have a deficit ceiling is lifted. this is ridiculous, utterly irresponsible aent american people are growing fire, reverend sharpton, of the inability of the republicanes it move even an inch toward conciliation and toward compromise to make certain this nation is not in fault on august 3rd. >> well, not if we are playing football again in this washington game it seems like the working class are the only ones tackled. i mean, account republicans find anything they agree to at all? including the plans they supported? they've said no to mcconnell's plan, the old guy. you've got now some tea party people saying no to what boehner is saying. i mean, do y'all have any control of your party to where we can get a consensus yes, from republicans on capitol hill? >> i think reverend that republicans of the house, actually, the only entity of the house that has passed a bill.
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i think it is entirely plausible that boehner's new idea passes so the republican led house of representatives would pass two bills to raise the debt ceiling. let's see if harry reid and the democrats and president obama sign on to it or not. but look, i don't think -- i don't see this as a problem that is totally the responsibility of republicans. i think everyone has it work together and i think that american public is getting fed up. but i don't think it is any one side that's toç blame at this point. >> wait a minute, so the fact that republican congressman came out this afternoon and said that boehner just allowed a a ceremonial vote on their package and poopooed it and they are saying the plan doesn't go far enough. you are trying to paint a rosey picture. you are dealing with republicans that stalled the whole process. boehner played golf with the president, seemed to be coming together. yanked back by the tea party. then had a private meeting with
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the president, yanked back by the tea party. then he and cantor went in, yanked back by the tea party. don't act like the republicans have had this great tiptoe through the tulips. every time it seems like there's a deal, it seems like the leadership gets pulled back by the extremists on the republican side. >> i think that might be your perception. you know, john boehner claims that he had a deal with president obama, that president obama then moved the goalpost. >> oh, okay. >> there is no doubt that there are some republicans who even now, with the new plan don't agree with john boehner's proposal. you're never going to get everybody in your party. i think john boehner can lose 23 to 25 republicans and the house could still pass this bill and we will see if the senate passes it. and if barack obama vetoes it. you will never get everybody on board. >> the problem is my perception. maybe you have a better
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perception. don't we seem to be in a position here where the deal keeps changing and no matter what the deal is, they cannot get the republicans to say yes? >> well, no one's really said yes to anything that other party has offered yet. there is not an actual bipartisan plan out there that everybody endorsed. i think what is important to look at is boehner is not going to lose 20 to 25 republicans. he could lose closer to 50 ç republicans. if that's the case then he needs the democrats. which is why i think everybody has to compromise on this. i think you will hear the president talk about that tonight. he will probably endorse harry reid's plan. the final deal, boehner knows he cannot allow the nation to default on its debt. so they will have to find some sort of compromise. it'll be pieces of all these deals put together and of course at the last minute because this is washington and this is how it's done. >> let's turn the page to another issue because we will certainly be wading through what president says tonight. trouble brewing for rick perry.
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the texas governor speaking gay marriage ruling in new york. said quote, that's new york and that's their business, and that's fine with me. while rick perry hasn't announced he is running for president, he seems to be the candidate it bridge the gap between tea party conservatives and establishment. matt is perry in trouble with tea party people who wouldn't like him saying it is fine with him that new york went that way? or is he playing to the state party, state rights party people that say, let every state decide on their own? >> i think perry's position would probably be popular with most conservatives. ? terms of like caring about average gay americans, it is a little different when the government comes in and you start fighting over the marriage issue. he is taking a federalist position which i think is very
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popular. the problem he's going to run into is the logistics of it. because what would happen is, what if somebody got married, a gay couple got married in in, and moved to texas. and then sued to have their marriage recognized in texas. i think that philosophically perry's position would be popular but in practice it could run into major problems down the road. >> or what happens ifç it is raised in iowa? during the first of the states that we see primaries and the like? what happens thereof the conservative republican voters in iowa as open-minded or noncaring about this issue. dr. dyson, what do you think? is this something that kwob could be a nonconservative issue in iowa. >> the tea party says it is not concerned about social issues, it is only concerned about the
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deficit and size and taxing and alike. but social conservatives will be rebuffed by this. as you raise the issue, if we talk about states rights, i've had a raise for me when it comes to states writes because state rights are often applied against the interest of minorities. so in this case if it is recognized in say new york but not recognized in iowa, then that presents a problem because they have no federally recognized right that the state did is compelled to protect them all. i think the republicanes have it fight this battle at some point. they want to strategically avoid it as much as they can. >> christina? >> is p about perry tapping into the mood. you see him shifting away from the marriage issue but away from conservative issues. abortion will be a crucial test for republican primary candidates but right now you see more and more polls show as
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throughout the country pim don't care as much about marriage. iowa is considering measures to look at marriage issue. i think you will see a little bit of discussion but this is the ability for perry for made a moderate issue that people are caring about less. >> let meç thank all of you fo joining me tonight. great panel. i have to go on. ahead, the republican candidates shunned a major event today. what will the snub mean for an eventual 2012 candidate? cial tr. on devices... cial tr. in social interactions... and applications in the cloud. some companies are worried. some, not so much. thanks to a network that secures it all out outsmart the threats. see how at cisco.com cisco.
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is chris christie a big tease? from the start the brash new jersey governor said there's no way he is running for president. but his actions have a lot of people wondering. today, he showed up in des moines, iowa for a conference and republican fund-raiser. last week, he met with the group of wealthy conservatives who asked him to run. and back in may, some iowa businessmen also tried to convince him to get in. governor christie, either you are keeping alive the rumor or you need to get a new person in your scheduling office. they have a suspicious way of moving you around. from the teachers to the students. i had a student the other day that said... "miss stacy, this class is changing the way that i look at things."
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as strong as our growing latino community. >> that was president obama speaking today before the national council of laraza, the country's largest latino speaking group. it was a tough audience. one that cheered when he talked about the la tina representation in his representation but also pushed for him to work harder on immigration reform. as the president courted the growing latino community, i can't help but notice who didn't show up. five major republican candidates were invited. none showed. what will a snub like this mean for the republicans in the 2012 elections?ç joining me now is cla risa demartinez, director of immigration policy at national council of la raza and co-founder of voto, latino group
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bringing young latinos into the voting process. let me start with you clarissa, the reception today, warm but saying we want more. how do you read it and how do you read the fact that none of the republicans came to your conference? >> well, as you stated, it was a warm reception. at the seam timish you've immigration is cutting our community very deeply and we wanted to hear more from the president. so the auden ience in unison se the message to the president that he can do more. at the same time we give him credit because we have been very vocal about the disagreements we have with the administration and the president came to face this community and speak about his record and the unfinished business. on the other hand we invited five members, five republican candidate and none of them chose to come. and i think that tells a lot about how -- where the
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republican party is under terms of the demonizing of this community. we do hope they meant cores and they have the courage it face this community, particularly to defend their positions. >> maria, let me ask you. as i watched the president today saying that he wanted the latino commune it to keep pushing. i remember when he addressed action network cones from here, he said i know you're not satisfied. you're not the satisfaction network. listen to what he said today that almost invited the community, the latino community to keep challenging he and his partner. >> feel freeç to keep the heatn me. and keep the heat on democrats. but here is the only -- the only thing you should know, the democrats and your president are with you. >> now as he keeps saying, keep the lead on him, how do you do that. and the republicans are ignoring
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you. aren't they missing an opportunity to try and make some hay out of the heat being on the president. >> a huge opportunity. the biggest problem with the latino community and president obama they feel like they went on several dates with him during the election season then all of a sudden he didn't call the next day. they were hurt. so him coming was a huge way of saying he is reaching out. but what is happening is the republicans realize they have a latino problem so what we are doing is instead of actually engaging with latino community there are eight state legislators that passed really difficult voter id laws. that suppresses the latino vote and the young voter and elderly vote. they recognize they have a long-term problem and they won't be able to fix it in this election. instead of engaging smartly, they decided to take it to the state legislator. that's where people should keep their eye on the ball. that and by state legislators,
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not by coincidence, will get new districts because of the boom in the latino vote in 2008. >> so they are gaining in terms of congressional district because after latino presence. but at the same time they are trying to make sure that latinos don't have a vote in those district. >> you're absolutely right. >> and how does the president and the democrats make up the gap in enthusiasm in your opinion, about using the aanalogy maria used, about going out on date and not calling the next day. now the republicans don't have a phone asking for a date at all. what do!ge do, clarissa. >> i got to tell you for too long the democratic strategy seems to be, if republicans aren't terrible enough they don't have to work for this vote. >> that right. >> latino voters, that's getting old. the lesser two of evils, you know. i think that it can have a big
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impact on people's energy towards voting. we as a community know we have to build political power. but we also need candidates of both parties to not only talk but deliver for this community. and frankly, republicans needs to start mending cores if they don't want to be on a suicidal path at national level in particular. but democrats have v to start delivering. they can't just simply count on the republicans to do that. >> we have to leave it there. clarisa, and maria, thank you. >> thank you, reverend. >> the secrets that corporate america don't want to you know about, that's next.
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republicans say they are trying to protect corporate job creators in the debt talks bp but it turns out, corporate america is doing just fine. the wall street journal reports
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that so far second quarter profits for s & p 500 companies are at a four-year high but they aren't using their profits to create jobs at home. over the last decade, u.s. corporations cut nearly 3 million jobs in america while adding 2.4 million overseas. and companies like general electric, which spart owner of this network, are adding more jobs in countries where their products are selling. but republicans claim corporations aren't making enough money and are fighting to lower their taxes. president obama says this is a terrible investment. >> the republicans in washington have consistently fought it keep these corporate loop holes open. the last four years alone, republicans in the house voted 11 times to continue rewarding corporations that create jobs and profits overseas. that doesn't make a lot of sense. it doesn't make sense for american workers, american businesses or america's economy.
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>> now, night after night as i have snat this seat, i've had republicans come on, many tea party freshmen, and tell me that i'm wrong. that those that are making the bigç money and getting the loo holes are job creators and i kept arguing with them. i want to give them tonight my heart-felt apologies. yeah, right, i'm wrong. they are job creators. they just forgot to tell me which country they were talking about. i was talking about the u.s. they were talking about abroad. i was talking about how we recover the american worker. they were talking about how we protect companies that do their business anywhere. at any cost. as long as they are making a profit, and it doesn't matter whether the workers here suffer. i apologize. i'm sorry. i'll work harder. don't forget tonight, don't miss the president will address the nation 9 p.m. tonight,

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