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>> speaker boehner comes out unscathed? >> i think speaker boehner is in serious trouble. his leadership is faulty if it takes him three days to pass a bill that only gets 218 votes. >> all weekend. joanne read, thanks so much. this is "the ed show." due to mature and graphic subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. there are two million people behind bars in america. for the next hour, we open the gates. "lockup." >> my particular interest is mostly in kids. >> i would identify my victims by finding women alone in their home. >> so i just told myself i'm going to kill her. >> what do we do with society's monsters? the people who, for now, are too
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violent, too sick to live on the outside. >> it's male and female voices, no one i know, just they bother me. >> we'll take you on a extraordinary trip inside california's hospital for the criminally insane. >> we treat people. we do not cure anybody. >> how do they keep more than 1,000 patients under control? should we lock them up and throw away the key? or is there a better way? >> i don't think we should stop trying. this is somebody's son that we have here. >> it's a dilemma judges are facing all across the country, what to do with people who have served their time but clearly remain a danger to themselves and others. in california, the answer is often at the state hospital. it is a sometime temporary, often permanent home to more than 1,000 violent murders, child molesters, and rapist.
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men who have been forcibly committed for psychiatric treatment. they've agreed to let cameras into the facility for a very rare glimpse of what it's like to live and work in what could easily be one of the most dangerous places in the country. only miles off the central coast of california and quietly nestled among wineries and rolling hills is atascadaro state hospital. beyond this entrance lives some of the most violent and dangerous criminals. they are considered the worst of the worst, too dangerous to be allowed back into society. over the next hour, you'll be able to decide as we take you inside for an extraordinary look atascadaro, california's hospital for the criminally insane.
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>> i don't remember standing in line anywhere saying i want to be a child molester. >> harry chase is a child molester. his chilling admission can frighten any child and any parent. >> i just told myself, i'm going to kill her. >> richard guest murdered his step mother. >> now that my dad's dead, i'm going to kill her, and that's what i did, and i went over to her house and i shot her. >> even though some patients may never leave atascadaro, he was released in may 2004. >> i would identify my victims by finding women alone in their home when they were sleeping, when they were most vulnerable. >> officials here have asked us not to show you all of the outside of the hospital. they take great efforts to keep the patients from escaping. however, regardless of where you look, security is evident. protecting the public and the nearby towns are a priority
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here. so is keeping the majority of the 1,000 patients on medication. this hospital functions as a completely self-contained city. it has its own fire department, police department, and, perhaps most importantly, it has its own pharmacy. almost 90% of these patients are on some form of medication, mostly anti-psychotic. >> put your arms out to the side. >> without medication, it's been said this hospital would be one of the most damgs plangerous pl earth. the patients are not shackled or restrained, nor are they confined to cells. for the most part, they walk freely among the staff and general population.
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even the police in the hospital carry no weapons. if there is a problem with the patients, it is considered a medical emergency, not a police emergency. unlike a prison where guards can and do use force, here at atascadaro, prescription drugs keep the peace. it's monday morning, and the first of several new patients arrives at the hospital. because weapons are not allowed inside, the transporting officers are told to remove their guns and secure them in a lock box outside. the prisoner is then led from the van and escorted inside the hospital to admissions. from this point on, he is no longer a prisoner, he's a patient. this patient is awaiting sentencing on crimes that would
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place him in the hospital as a sexually violent predator. we will conceal his identity, because at this point, he has not completed the criminal process. upon entrance, all new patients are examined for contraband and any signs of contagious disease. the patient then showers. >> does that itching get worse after you take a hot shower? >> the patient is given new clothes and shoes. >> step up on the scale for me. >> he's then put through a battery of medical tests to discover what kind of medications he's on and what should be prescribed. >> have you ever had a seizure? okay, have you ever tried to commit suicide? are you mad at anyone, do you want to punch anybody out, do you want to go after them, assault them? >> does that include the judge? no, no, i'm just kidding. [ laughter ] >> okay. you're a patient now, you're no
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longer a prisoner, okay? >> the new patient is escorted to the photo lab for his formal identification. here, the paperwork is completed. >> we also need to do a change of location form on your 290 registration, which entails having you read what your current requirements are as a sex offender. >> he is photographed for a picture i.d. >> put your back against that gray panel over there. >> then he is fingerprinted. a psychiatric technician, or sponsor as they are also called, takes over from here. >> what we'll do is we'll take you down to x-ray, everybody gets x-rayed in the facility, and from there, up to unit six. >> on his way to x-ray, the patient gets his first look at his new surroundings. inside, the hospital looks more like an airline terminal,
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brightly lit and impersonal. two corridors, each a quarter of a mile long, connects the various wards of the hospital. electric vehicles used for maintenance, share the halls with the patients and staff. at any given time, patients line the corridors for meals, to go into the courtyards, or to go to various groups and activities. lock boxes for police and staff line the hallways. inside are restraints and protective clothing. red lights also line the corridors, when activated, they flash to indicate the location of an incident. even though most of these patients have been in and out of prisoners, their introduction to the hospital can be an overwhelming experience. it will take nearly a month to fully process a new patient into atascadaro.
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karla jacobs, a long-time advocate for the mentally ill says the sexual predators should not be with other patients. >> sexually violent predators are a legislated disorder and political commitment. they should not be referred to as patients, because patients can be treated. >> in 1995, after a bitter battle that was settled in the supreme court, the sexually violent predator law was passed. the law gives the judges the discretion to send the most reprehensible sex offenders to atascadaro after they have already played out their prison sentences. they are sent not because of the crimes they have already committed, but to prevent them from doing future crimes. it is not short of locking up someone and throwing away the key. society may want these men locked up, but the cost of
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keeping them off the streets inside atascadaro and on parole is steep. at almost $150,000 per man per year, that's nearly five times the cost of keeping them locked up in any other california prison. proponents of the law say it's money well spent. over the next hour, you'll be able to decide as we take you inside atascadaro, california's hospital for the criminally insane. to power our lives. while energy developement comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing decades of cleaner burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self contained well systems and using state of the art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities and the environment we are america's natural gas.
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midway between los angeles and san francisco is atascadero state hospital. atascadero has opened its doors and allowed tv cameras to bring you this rare glimpse of the state of the art hospital for the criminally insane. about 400 of the patients here
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are called mentally disordered offenders or mdos. they make up the largest number of patients at atascadero and they have a long history of illness and violent criminal behavior. >> i hurt my girlfriend, i hurt my mother. she claims that i knocked her eye out. >> these patients are here on parole. they've already served out their prison sentences, but they are here because they are considered too dangerous to be released back into society. >> it's male and female voices, no one i know, just they bother me. they needle me and push me and sometimes i -- i can handle it, and sometimes i can't. >> doctors and therapists know for many of these patients, there is no cure for their illness. for these patients, their only chance at a so-called normal life here at atascadero or on the outside is staying on medication.
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>> i've been on every medication that they have, heard voices since 1978. it will stop them for awhile, but they'll just come back, they always do. >> i enjoy working with these guys, because i believe that people are capable of change. >> chris walter, a registered nurse, and is brother james, a psychiatric technician, work with the mentally disordered offenders. >> one of the main reasons they are in here is their mental illness played a major part in their crime they were convicted on, and a huge part of that was violence. the crime was considered violent or had an element of violence in it. >> in my mind i had already wished her dead so many times, you know? and the only thing that held me back was my dad. i knew how disappointed my dad would be. >> richard guest was convicted of killing his step mother when he was 16 years old. he was tried as a juvenile and
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served seven years in the california youth authority. >> my dad, he used to do everything she wanted. you know, it was like she was manipulating him, and then whenever he wasn't there, i'd get abused by her, so i just told myself i'm going to kill her, you know? and i don't care what happens to me. now that my dad's dead, i'm going to kill her, and that's what i did. and i went over to her house and i shot her. >> since his release 11 years ago, richard has been in and out of california prisons. he's been sentenced for numerous crimes including drug abuse, robbery, prison escape, and attacking other inmates convicted of child abuse. he was sent her to atascadero more than a year ago after robbing a fast food restaurant. >> well, the question is what kind of a job does this ad describe? tell me. >> i try not to think of it as a
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prison. i'm trying to figure it as more of a school, you know? like a college or a school or something, you know? that's kind of the way i try to picture it in my mind. i don't want to think of it is as i'm locked up here and doing time here, you know? then it's just the same way i was thinking before. if my thinking doesn't change, then i'm going to -- my behavior's not going to change either. >> it's our job to help assist them to make positive changes in their life, teach them about their illness, give them the tools. give them the tools and education they need to go back out into the community and not wind up back in corrections. >> has worked with mentally disordered offenders at atascadero. >> we have three years to get you into what's called a
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condition to release program, get you out to straight parole because you've done really, really well, or you haven't done well, and we have this option to extend you involuntarily, at the end of your parole. >> what do you look for? >> i'd say knowledge of a skill involved or the task involved. >> okay. >> it is rare for this group of patients to stay at atascadero for more than 14 months. >> okay, are there any other criteria the employer is going to look for? >> even though most of them have a long history of violent crimes, half of the so-called mentally disordered offenders will be released. >> to make this law work, these patients have to get good treatment here and the kind of treatment they might continue to do when they are not here, that's doing their medications really well is a skill and a art. >> without medication, most of the patients here wouldn't be able to function much less control their violent behavior.
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atascadero's pharmacy is perhaps the single most important place in the entire hospital. 27 pharmacists and technicians dispense over 12,000 pills a day to the patients in the hospital. that's nearly 12 pills for every patient here every day. >> currently, the hospital has approximately 1,000 patients in the hospital. of those, approximately 700 patients are currently being administered anti-psychotic medications. the way that the process works is that the physician will be out on the unit, see a patient, write an order. that order's inputted into the computer by a pharmacy technician, it's then reviewed by a pharmacist for any types of drug-drug interactions, drug-food interactions, allergies. once they feel that the order is appropriate, it's validated. we do approximately 270 new
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orders on a daily basis through that. and once the orders are validated, they become part of the patient profile, and then it's downloaded to the machine. and then the machine dispenses the medication. >> each one of these machines costs approximately $180,000 and holds 248 different kinds of medication. they are called automated medication dispensing systems, and what they do is spit out a prescribed dose of medication into these individual packets for patients. without them, the job of dispensing medicine in atascadero would be virtually impossible. as it is, each time a canister becomes empty, a technician will refill it, but a pharmacist had to inspect the technician's work, verifying the lot number,
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expiration date, and verifying the right medication is put into the right canister. the pharmacists are always aware that an overdose or mixing the wrong combinations of medications could be deadly. >> the next step in the process is that we fill the medications into a tote bag. those tote bags are locked with a numbered lock and the unit's nursing staff, licensed nursing staff, will come down and sign for that tote bag, it will go back to their unit, to their medication room, and it will be administered from that point. >> when we come back, keeping the peace. how do they do it here without armed guards? ♪
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violence is viewed as part of the job at atascadero, and since the best predictor of violence is a history of violence, atascadero has become a laboratory of studying dangerous behavior.
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on average, the hospital reports four violent incidents every day. >> well, i know that people got to learn together and love. that's because someone else told us about love. >> for 11 years, dr. colleen love has headed the clinical safety program in atascadero. her job is to research violence in an effort to reduce it in the hospital. ♪ i love the whole wide world ♪ someday the whole wide world will love me ♪ >> we're working with the big leagues of mental illness here. this is a very challenging population. so we have 1,000 patients who 99% have violent histories living together in close quarters in a large public sector institution. even people without mental illness would have a hard time tolerating some of the frustrations of a total institution like ours. >> when an alarm goes off, 12 to
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15 staff members and police officers assigned to that particular zone respond. the job of the police is to assist staff members in restraining the patient and aiding in crowd control, ensuring that no further violence erupts. once the patient is restrained, he is taken back to his unit where his psychiatric technician and the unit psychiatrist try to get him to talk about the incident. >> got to see what's happening with you right now. you got to let us know what's going on. >> the patients are really unpredictable, some, so you have to develop the rapport within ten or 15 seconds and try and calm the situation before it gets out of hand here. >> the police department in atascadero employs about 100
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officers. that's three times the city of police of atascadero has with 26,000 people. >> the patient, for no apparent reason, kicked and struck an employee in the face several times. the employee received three stitches above the eye, and they were checking for spinal and neck injury. >> although the majority of violent behavior is hand-to-hand assaults, atascadero is not a stranger to common devices being turned into weapons of danger. >> this right here looks like a piece to maybe an eyeglass, this part of the eyeglass. the other part was taken off, it's usually covered by plastic all the way up, that part is taken up, sharpened, used for another type of dagger. this device right here, quite ingenious actually, was used for an attempted inside. they were able to get ahold of an electric cord and attach a
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switch which attached to the wristwatch, which went around the wrist, and he tried to e lek troe cute himself. >> to cut down on suicide, room checks are conducted every 15 minutes. >> body set down with maxine, and we decided if we all put our hands together, that would show us not only in harmony, but unity and organization. >> and to help bring violence under control, atascadero has done something unheard of in a facility of its kind, they've organized a patient government. here, patients are elected by their peers to provide perspectives on what provokes violence in the hospital and how best to solve it. >> we're in here as a patient, and i always finding myself caught up in that sometimes, especially in aggressive situations, you know? it's like, you know, a guy wants
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to fight and i'm in limbo. it's like what do i do? the old nature wants to come up and lash out. >> in many ways, it is like spiritual warfare, it's our deliberate attempt to take fundamentally right behaviors, compassion and care, and cultivate them in an environment that can then override the dark side of human nature. >> when we come back, we'll meet the fastest growing and perhaps the most violent and controversial population in atascadero, the sexually violent predator. esurance instantly compares our car insurance rates
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it took only minutes for the senate to vote down the republican-controlled house's latest efforts to raise the debt ceiling and lower the deficit. this sets the stage for negotiations this weekend on
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compromised legislation. tropical storm don weakened to a tropical depression. residents are hoping don brings plenty of rain to the drought-stricken reason. now back to "lockup." due to mature and graphic subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> atascadero state hospital in california is home to some of the country's most violent criminals. most of the men in this maximum security facility have served out their terms in prisons but are simply too dangerous to go free. among them, the nation's largest population of sexual predators, few of them have diagnosable mental illnesses and those who do can't be cured. we're about to go back inside atascadero where cameras are allowed only on the rarest of occasions.
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this is the place where some say you come face to face with evil. this is where about 500 of california's sexually violent predators live. atascadero is home to one of the nation's largest collection of sexually violent predators, and that number is expected to increase. the overwhelming public sentiment is to lock them up, throw away the key, no matter what the cost, just keep them away. since 1995, california has been doing just that, instead of setting their convicted rapist and child molesters free after they serve their sentences, the state is locking up the worst of them and only a few offenders have been released. >> it's not a matter of whether i feel sympathy or not. the law says that this
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particular patient population will come to us for treatment and so that's our job is to provide them treatment. do you think we're ready to move unit 20's meal schedule back to the way it was? >> grenda is the program director of the sdp. she has cared for patients in atascadero, her job is to oversee every aspect of treatment for these patients. like other patients in atascadero, the sexually violent predators live in single rooms or dorms. the rooms are small, only 6 by 10. the windows are blocked with metal grates that block the sun to prevent escape. the doors are made of heavy steel and locked from the outside. bathroom and shower facilities are shared with other patients in the unit. unlike other patients, these men can't be subdued with
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medication. they are under constant watch by the staff. >> i'm not here to judge my patients behavior. i'm not here to judge their past and i'm not here to punish them for what they've done. i'm here to treat them. >> i never asked to be the way i am. i don't remember standing in a line anywhere saying oh, i want to be a child molester. >> harry chase, age 37, has been in the sexually violent predator program in atascadero for only two weeks. >> the legalistic crime is called gross sexual misconduct and also unlawful sexual contact with a minor. i had two victims, both boys. my particular interest is mostly in latch key kids. i look for the kids that carry the keys in their pocket. i look for the kids that have a scruffy hairdo, may not bathe
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all the time, maybe in second-hand hand me down clothes. i look towards the family to see exactly financially where they stand economically and also sociologically, meaning where is the family structure, is the mother and the father living together? if not, then perhaps maybe that would be something that can be used quote on quote to my advantage. >> harry is one of the few men in the sdp population that has a mental illness. his diagnose? psychosis. but harry and his therapists say he's nowhere near being near release. >> i'll watch certain movies because certain actors are on them, less than 18 years of age. one of the things that gets me is our society is so adamant
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about the adult-child sexual issues, yet they, and as you know, media provides sex for enticement for whatever product they are intending to sell and sometimes they present us with children with no clothes on in soap commercials and things like that. those things disturb me, those things disrupt my serenity. i'm still too young in my recovery to shut off the impulses that go through my body. >> while most agree that they don't want these men living next door to them, many patient's rights advocate it's wrong to keep them locked up in a mental institution indefinitely after they have already served out their sentences. a class action suit filed by inmates alleges they are being wrongfully incarcerated. matthew hennesy works with the
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sdps and has heard many compliants. >> if you put yourself in these shoes, you understand why. many people have been in prison for a long time, thought they were going to be released, then they are told they are going to a forensic hospital and are not sure what situation they are getting into. >> long time advocate for the mentally ill, karla jacobs, has heard the same complaints. >> the sexually violent predator law pretends that people who have committed crimes have a illness that can be cured. when psychiatry is used to control sexually violent predators, what we are effectively doing is using the psychiatrists as a form of social control when, in effect, that is the job of prison guards. >> i committed my crimes well
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over 10, 15 years ago, i paid my criminal debt to society. i did, without argument, without complaining. i pled guilty. and i went and did my time. as society requested me to do at the time i committed my crimes. >> chris was convicted of child molestation in 1985. he was released from prison in 1988 and reoffended that same year. he was released again in 1994 and shortly after that was picked up on a parole violation for drug possession. he's been in atascadero since 1997. he doesn't want us to show you his face. >> there's a lot of hype out there with this megan's law and this registration and these posters going up and stuff. that's all fine and dandy, but the public ought to be happy to know who's in their neighborhood. they need to worry about who they don't know in their neighborhood that's out molesting their children and raping their wives and daughters
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and sisters. >> the department of corrections released 300 to 350 sex offenders every month. that's an enormous number of people, and these are people that by and large have not been treated in any way for their sexual acting out. >> that statistic refers only to those released from california prisons. national rates for rape and sexual assault remains constant. at least 15 other states have followed california's lead and are locking up their sex offenders on indefinite parole. >> we don't talk about cure in any of the areas in which we treat people, but we do talk about bringing symptoms under control. in our particular commitment, we talk about people learning what the high risk factors are, how to understand and control the
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behavior and exercise controls that they were not able to exercise before, but we do not cure anybody. >> but can a sexual predator really control his violent urges? >> i actually did try to commit suicide last -- yesterday. >> coming up next, a look at some of the controversial treatments for some of them. including a shocking 911 tape that has many patients accusing the hospital of abuse. call overly protective. mit especially behind the wheel. nothing wrong with that. in fact, allstate gives them a bonus -- twice a year -- for being safe drivers. dollar for dollar, nobody protects you like allstate.
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atascadero state hospital in central california is already home to the nation's largest population of sexually violent predators and hundreds more are expected in the years to come. the sdps are a unique group of criminals with a history of
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monstrous crimes. they are here at california's hospital for the criminally insane, having already served their prison sentences. >> i can distance myself from what they've done, and i think it's not too much different than distancing myself from a patient who's committed murder or has beaten and robbed somebody. if i hold on to that and think about that, then i'm rendered in effective as a treater. >> well, as usual, we start off with a check in, see how people are doing. >> very few of these men have a diagnosable mental illness. their violent behavior cannot be cured with medication. instead, treatment consists of helping the patient find and then maintain a level of self control. in effect, they are taught how to take care of themselves.
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at atascadero, they use therapy, voluntarily chemical castration and a state of the art machine to -- when attached to a patient's genitals, it can record his arousal to computers and stimuli such as children and fantasies such as rape. psychologists agree many of these men got into trouble because they are unable to feel basic human emotions, so they have counseling sessions and group meetings where therapists try to teach men how to empathize with their victims, how to feel sorry for them, how to feel pain, something, anything for their monstrous acts. >> empathy is a learned behavior. it's not something that someone is born with in the egg. >> i actually did try to commit suicide last -- yesterday. >> so -- the prison, where
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empathy is probably not the order of the day. >> you're hearing people value you, your talents, your skills, the things you do that makes things easier for them. >> it's important for us to show them empathy, respect, and dignity at all times, and empathy is learned by modeling, it has to rub off, essentially, from us. >> he's doing what? >> trying to break in my door. >> one of the most controversial and chilling means used to teach these sex offenders empathy is the use of an actual 911 call of a woman being raped. we must warn you, although we won't play the tape in its entirety, what you're about to hear is graphic and disturbing. >> he's here! he's here! who are you? why are you here? why are you here?
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>> patients break down and cry when they hear the audiotape and some patients are angry we're playing the audiotape, they feel it's abusive of us and sadistic of us to object them to something so horrible. >> since the sexually violent predator law was passed in 1995, only a few men have been completed the program and released under monitoring, including patrick galady. many residents where galady now lives remains fearful. >> i don't go out at night, have to keep everything closed, all the drapes. you can't control whether he's out meandering out or not. >> scared at night now? >> yeah, yeah. >> at atascadero, he cooperated fully in the treatment plan and voluntarily took the chemical castration medication, the hormone responsible for the male
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sex drive. in 2002, patrick voluntarily underwent a surgical castration at his own expense. >> the depth of my commitment i victimless for the rest of my life. i'm not saying that i'm going to be perfect. i probably will fail in a lot of areas. but none of my failings am i going to hurt anybody. >> our best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. and that'll probably stick. if someone has a history of offenses against children or offenses of rape, there is a certain amount of concern that people should have that's probably healthy. >> when we come back, patients who have been deemed incompetent to stand trial are prepared to return to court. >> announcer: this past year alone there's been a 67% spike in companies embracing the cloud-- big clouds, small ones, public, private,
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atascadero state hospital. california's hospital for the criminally insane is now overflowing with many prison inmates and people found incompetent to stand trial. this is where the patients who were deemed incompetent live when they're sent to atascadero. they're referred to as the 1370s after the state penal code that describes their commitment. the average stay for a patient on this ward is 63 days. >> good morning, how are you? >> this man is undergoing evaluation and treatment for his competency to stand trial for sexual abuse of a child. >> you understand the reason that you're here at the hospital? >> yeah. >> how are you doing with your competency? >> i have no idea. >> do you know what competency
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for court is? >> i understand in the court proceedings. >> each patient goes under similar reviews at 30, 60, and 90 days. they're evaluating his adjustment to his medication as well as his behavior. in 1998, the state began a crackdown on hundreds of patients suspected of faking insanity to avoid prison time. armed with new guidelines, prosecutors, judges, psychiatrists, and hospital staff can now better detect those criminal defendants who try to con the legal system by pretending they have a mental illness. but for those who aren't faking an illness, they are treated and medicated so they can stand trial for their crimes. peggy thomas, unit supervisor, has been working with patients at atascadero for 18 years. >> they need to understand all of the roles of the people who are in the court. so we talk to them about the prosecutor and what he does.
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about the district attorney, what his role is. the public defender, their role. the patient's role, the judge's role. so that when we go down to do the mock trial, they get a chance to practice that. >> by the time a patient is ready to take part in his mock trial, his medication has been stabilized. in this courtroom, therapists and staff members play the roles of court officials. >> it's my duty to advise you of your constitutional rights. you're entitled to an attorney during the proceedings against you. if you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed to you. >> the people of the state of california against john gussman jr. >> mr. gussman, you're charged with three counts on assault with great bodily injury. do you understand these charges? >> yeah. >> what is your understanding of
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the competent in this case? >> most likely they're not getting cooperating properly with my attorney or with my lawyer. >> okay. the records indicated you are paranoid, experiencing hallucinations, and you were exhibiting manic behavior. does this sound like what was going on at the time? >> yeah. >> are you on any psychiatric medications now? >> yeah. it's helped me a lot. >> how? >> it makes the voices and stuff go away. >> no further questions, your honor. >> you may step down. >> mr. gussman, you pass. good luck to you. you'll go to staffing on thursday. >> passing means the patient is ready to return to court to stand trial for his crime. atascadero state hospital with its razor wire and guards stationed on the perimeter looks nothing like a hospital.
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no one here talks about curing the patients. instead they talk about medication and a lot of it. enough to keep these patients from hurting themselves and others. this is where california sends its criminally insane, those who will be released, and those who will never be free. >> people who are watching this will find me to be a distasteful and unpleasant person to be around. the only thing i can say to you is this. if i don't get up today and tell you what these people look for. exactly what i look for. exactly how it works, then the next child that gets molested is my fault because i didn't do my share to stop the next guy who needs help. >> i don't look at it as working in madness. i look at it as working where we are able to help people get stabilized on meds and have a better existence than they have had here before. >> it is going to be rocky. it is not going to be easy.
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but i'm in it for the long haul. there are not going to be any victims from me again. >> we continue to try to understand this most dark side of human behavior and find a way to assist these patients to control themselves. and i don't think we should stop trying. this is somebody's son, somebody's brother that we have here. some mother's heartbreak. >> in 2001, the supreme court ruled that sexually violent prod tors can be locked up indefinitely. but some say a loophole in the law allow predators to gain release through a court hearing rather than beginning the five stage program. california is the only state that requires a court review every two years for those committed. more than 50

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