president. make a wh. and we begin with the president just weighing in on the shutdown of the federal aviation administration. another showdown that's leaving tens of thousands of workers furloughed or working without pay. it's over a labor issue, and as the president notes, it comes as congress takes off a month-long holiday. >> they left town without getting this extension done. here's what this means. thousands of faa workers being furloughed, including safety inspectors. it also means projects all across the country involving tens of thousands of construction workers being suspended because congress didn't get its work done. >> ironically the latest showdown comes after the last show dunne in which republicans went to the microphone multiple

times claiming their first priority was jobs, jobs and jobs. >> fixing our fiscal problems will in fact provide more confidence for employers in america, the people we expect, to reinvest in our economy and greet jobs. >> now is not the time for us to be considering tax hikes when there's over 9% unemployment and too many people out of work. >> surprising then that republicans have chosen to leave town for a month enjoying their congressional recess while leaving thousands of aviation workers in the lurch. that's because republicans refused to reauthorize the faa without adding an anti-union sweetener to the deal. if the stalemate continues through labor day, the president emphasized the government could lose $1 billion in tax revenues from ticket fees in just weeks. >> the airlines are still collecting these fees because it's priced into their tickets,

but they are not turning them over to the federal government, and the federal government is -- stands to lose their 200 million a week. >> well, as long is at airlines get paid. fired up democrats said a clean extension could be passed in hours if not for more republican governance by hostage-taking. >> so many people are desperate for work and are being told they can't because once again the house republicans rather than legislate the way we've done around here for a long time feel they have the empowerment to hurt individual people and that's what they have done. >> it's irresponsible to hold hostage these people and our country and the safety of our airways pending some petty political gain. >> meanwhile, transportation secretary ray lahood command year commandiered the podium at today's with respect briefing and demanded an urgent response.

>> come back to washington, leave your vacations, just for a couple hours. come back, congress. help your friends and neighbors get back to work. >> and while republicans claim the impasse stems from subsidized regional airports in senators' districts, democrats said today that the real issue is american workers, and one major airline that wants to prevent them organizing. >> most of the big airlines are unionized. not a problem. one isn't, delta. >> an anti-worker agenda of one airline, delta airlines, that's what this is all about and that's what the republicans in the house said. >> congressman jim moran, democrat of virginia, joins us now from capitol hill. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon. >> what on earth is the congress doing going off on holiday leaving an important agency in partial shutdown, endangering at least $1 billion in tax revenue from ticket sales tax and with tens of thousands of construction workers unable to

work? what are they doing? >> you know, you can't make this stuff up. it was in a work of fiction you wouldn't believe it. it is the epitome of dysfunctionality to think that in order to eliminate a program that costs $160 million you're going to lose revenue costing the government $200 million a week. it will be over $1 billion by the time we get back after labor day and you're telling 74,000 families that they will not have a paycheck for the next 50 days, so we talk about jobs. we talk about trying to balance the budget, and then we act like this, to cost the government $1 billion and, of course, passengers aren't going to get any of this money. the airlines are pocketing it. so they are adding to their profit margin. that's all that's happening. >> the public see both parties saying they are committed to jobs. that's all we ever hear, but

where's the evidence? the evidence is a congress that won't pass a bill to extend the funding of the faa. that's the evidence. >> yeah. well, i mean, what can i tell you in the evidence is there. now the democrats were willing to compromise. in fairness we wanted to pass it, but the -- there's a republican majority in the house who doesn't, and it's really over a labor issue. it's really driven by delta airlines, the lead up to your show was absolutely right, so they feel they are standing on principle to reduce taxes and to save the government money, but the facts are quite otherwise. you know, they talk about jobs while they lay off 74,000 people who are performing necessary work. they talk about saving the government, and yet they are costing the government $200 million a week on this alone. this is probably the worst congress on record, certainly in our lifetimes, and -- and i think this is, as i say, the

epitome of this kind of dysfunctionality. >> i know this isn't an area of your own expertise, sir, but can you understand why the public might be tempted to feel that they are going to be endangered in some way if the faa's staff are being left in hiatus like this? i mean, is it safe for us to fly during this busy summer vacation period? >> well, i -- i do think it's safe, at least for the time being. if this goes on indefinitely, you know, there may be a question of safety. it may not be my expertise, but i do represent washington national airport, otherwise referred to as reagan and the employees of dulles international airport, and we've got 1,000 people who are out of work. they can't get other jobs because we have to have them working at the airports, so they are sitting there furloughed, no unin. they are not going to get reimbursed, and they are only doing it because some extremists

want to prove a point. i mean, you a of the congress should be embarrassed over this. i don't think it's so much a safety issue, but it's certainly an issue that goes to whether you can trust your government to do the right thing or at least the congress, and you can't. certainly not in this case. >> it's extraordinary. congressman jim moran, thank you for being candid, and thank you for joining us. >> you bet. any time. >> and now we'll turn to our man at the white house. nbc mike viqueira joins us. i've seen you tweeting on this subject all morning, and i've been following your insights and is this going to happen? are they going to come back? >> extremely remote possibility, martin. what we've gone through with the debt ceiling and the sacrosanct august vacation, it's -- it's hard -- it's practically unprecedented for congress to come back and deal with something like this. you heard the president. you heard ray lahood, the

transportation secretary before that appearing in the white house briefing room. clearly the line here from the white house is congress, come back. do your job. obviously this is a crucial issue for faa employees. they cite the figure 74,000 people and if you count the people that work for the federal aviation administration and 78,000 construction workers working on air towers, runway projects, other things over the last couple of months, what the president emphasized, the construction, they need to get back here. the president in the cabinet room, you played a portion of that. he called it a lose, lose, lose situation for everyone, and he also said there's some proerd you'll -- there's tools in the procedural bag of tricks that congress could use to get that faa reauthorization done that's called a unanimous consent degree to at least continue again for the short time, and the white house has pointed out time and time again that is there there have been 21 short-term extensions while they try to get this all worked out.

that also is an extremely remote possibility, probably even more remote than having the entire congress come back and deal with it, so it's status quo, martin, until after labor day at this point. >> mike, very briefly, the president is about to go off himself on this fund-raiser and birthday celebration, isn't he? >> reporter: that's right. >> he must be slightly embarrassed about that? >> reporter: i think that he probably isn't. when you consider the fact that there's so many sharp questions last week when it was announced he was heading to his hometown of chicago for no fewer than three fund-raisers this evening, to raise money for the dnc and his own campaign, they were sticking with that, even in the midst of this debt crisis. unclear whether he would have gone or not had it not been resolved. one thinks he probably wouldn't have. something they have been putting off. i believe philadelphia was the last fund-raiser, well over a month ago and they want to capitalize on the fact that his birthday falls tomorrow, 50th birthday. >> mike viqueira, as ever,

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the president, like both houses of congress, is leaving the nation's capital heading home to chicago for a fund-raiser, but this trip is not just about fund-raising. mr. obama will turn 50 tomorrow and is looking forward to something of a birthday bash. already the russian president has called to offer him good wishes, and president obama told a russian interviewer that although he's happy to reach a half century, there were other more significant days in his life, like the day he married first lady michelle obama and the day each of his daughters was born. these, he said, are the high points of his life thus far.

in terms of his own birthday wishes, he aimed pretty much as high as he could. world peace and an improved economy are what he seeks. another wish, of course, is a second term. after being forced to cancel numerous fund-raisers thanks to the chaos in washington over the debt ceiling fight, the president is back in campaign mode. as he makes a birthday bank roll run we're joined by republican strategist doug hyde and msnbc political analyst karen phinney. can i begin with you. the president's campaign has said that he cancelled ten fund-raisers for him, vice president biden and the white house chief of staff bill daley in the past month due to this debt fight, but given that his fund-raising has already reached for the last quarter $47 million for him personally, a further $38 million for the dnc, i guess he's also come in. >> he's doing okay. the kind of thing that happens to both republican presidents

and democratic presidents. things come up and it's the right thing to do to postpone, whether it's a trip and fund-raising event. i think it was the right decision. he needs to be here dealing with the debt crisis. now that that default cries sis hopefully over, at least for now, and it is his birthday, he should go and enjoy. >> doug, do you think he should go to chicago given there's something like 72,000 faa workers simply in hiatus at the moment, 4,000 others who are not working? >> i don't have a problem particularly having an event, but it's also why i think republicans were willing to call his bluff on the debt ceiling debate. we saw the president spend a lot of time talking about those who own private jets and the image of that would have been particularing jarring if the social security checks hadn't gone out if obama threatened and that's why republicans were willing to call his bluff because we knew at the end of the day it was an image he was not willing to have.

>> karen? >> what are you talking about? i don't think the president was -- was bluffing at all. i think he made that pretty clear, and i think he's made it pretty clear to those people, you're right, let's be honest, doug, your party takes money from big donors, too. >> absolutely. >> at least he was being honest with them saying, look, i'm going to take away some of your tax benefits for your jets. can you still give to my campaign. i think that's pretty straightforward. >> doug, she's right, isn't she? >> no, she's not right. >> oh, come on. >> republicans called the president's bluff on this and why you saw that the only person talking about tax increases in the debt ceiling debate was barack obama. even the senate democrats said that they didn't want to raise taxes and let's back to last career. >> that's not true, doug. the gang of six, you can call it whatever you like, but the gang of six did actually talk about revenue raisers, and the truth of the matter is as we're going to see as you heard towards the fall in the super committee, we're going to have to have an honest conversation of both spending cuts and revenue

increases so i hope those wacky job creators you guys have been talking about can get off all the cash they are sitting on and create jobs. >> we care about the people who build the planes and they are union jobs. when they say revenue raisers, they are talking about taxes. nice language to use, poll tested very well but those are taxes. >> doug, for the moment "the des moines register review" of campaign data shows the current list of candidates has raised half as much as the candidates running four years ago. >> certainly we've had a lot of problems in fund-raising because we have a bad economy for one thing. we don't have an incumbent running for president. we don't have somebody who has been able to really draw the money that we want so far, but we also know that we have somebody who is going to raise a lot of money for us. his name is barack obama, certainly raised a lot for the party committees last year and we'll have candidates adequately funded when we get to the nomination process to take on this president because given

where the president's poll numbers are, one kind of poll numbers you see from this poll numbers right now and they are called bad poll numbers, the president is in a tough shot. >> final word to carriage. >> doug is doing an admirable job. hi to use the same messaging points in 2008 but the truth is the rnc as the dnc in 2008 should be able to raising money while this contest is still going on because from those people who are supportive of the party overall, regardless of who the nominee is, those are the folks who should be giving money while the rest of this primary stuff works its way out so it's a noble attempt, doug. >> well, that's what's happening. >> thank you very much. and both of you, i would assume you would like to convey your good wishes to the president. >> happy birthday, mr. president. >> coming up, michele bachmann for president? stay with us. [ female announcer ] the healing power of touch

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treasury secretary timothy geithner opened his washington op-ed this morning with a simple line about the debt ceiling debate. quote, it was a terrible process but a good result. well, you wouldn't know it by looking at the reaction on wall street. the markets have been up and down throughout the trading day, and very well may be off for a ninth straight day when the closing bell sounds in a few minutes. tremors indeed screams this headline in the "wall street journal." and this jab at the work of washington in "the daily news." we also learned today the service sector is off. fact are orders are down, another disspiriting jobs report is expected friday, and ratings agencies are watching it all very skeptically, so is this the beginning of a double dip recession that we're seeing? my colleague kristen welker got the white house on the record just a few hours ago. >> there's been a lot of discussion that these indicators might be signs that the economy is continuing to stagnate or potentially dipping back into a

recession. do you see it that way? >> well, we do not believe that there is a threat there of a double dip recession. we believe that the economy will continue to grow. >> for more on the perilous state of the economy i'm churned by vera gibbons and brian sullivan, host of snaebz's "street signs." brian, can you lay out how bad the last eight days have been in terms of the major markets? >> they have been terrible. keep in mind, we've not had this kind of a run since 1978 in the stock market. luckily it looks like we're a little bit higher today. there's a lot of concern out there, not only around our situation here, but we've also got to keep an eye on europe. i know you're a global guy, martin. look around the world. some of the biggest banks in europe are down 40%, 50% in the past year. there's a feeling that europe could really feel the pinch, almost have like a 2008-2009 scenario. remember, european countries on their own tend to be small. europe together larger gdp than the united states.

if europe slows, so, too, will our exports. that could pinch stock prices here. luckily today a little bit better for the equity markets but a lot of uncertainty and fear out there, martin. >> indeed. vera gibbons, the number of planned job cuts have surged to something like a 16-month high in july rising 60%. >> 60%. you have to look twice at the numbers because it's just phenomenal. we know companies haven't been hiring but now they are actually firg, and the concern, too, is that the layoffs and announced cuts are broad-based, in any number of industries if you look pretty much across the board from retail, to tech, to banking, so that obviously doesn't bode well for the economic recovery and makes it even more elusive. has a lot of people on edge and doesn't bode well for friday's employment report either. >> brian, today doesn't look to be an horrendous one for the dow, but is there fear and foreboding about, as vera said, friday's job numbers, and are you picking up any indications that friday is going to be another bad day for jobs?

>> well, listen, we had in the last few weeks, to vera's point, we had borders liquidate, right? thousands of people being laid o.cisco, one of the biggest tech companies announcing 10,000 layoffs. i think part of what we've seen the last eight days is a setup to friday, of course, as you referenced, the big monthly payroll number. 75,000 jobs added is the market expectation, of course, coming off a horrible number of only 18,000 added last month. here's the problem though. as you've said, we need 125,000 to 150,000 jobs a month created just to keep up with population. i don't want to depress your audience, if they are not already, but i'm going to say this. if we add 250,000 jobs a month, 250, and we're expecting 75, it will take 12 years to get back to pre-recession employment levels, 12 years. >> yes. >> brian, it is depressing. finally and very quickly, vera, what do you think we're going to get on friday? >> probably about 75,000. that is what the market is expecting. traders are expecting numbers to

come even weaker than that. as brian pointed out, you they'd to see job growth kicking and economic growth kicking. you need gdp numbers, 4%, 5%, to bring the unemployment rate down from 9.2%. >> not looking good. >> not looking good, no. >> thank you both for joining us. next, sarah palin defends the tea party, and is she hinting once again that she may enter the race? [ female announcer ] it's time to raise the bar and replace your old mayo with the full flavor of kraft mayo with olive oil. ♪ made with half the fat and calories of hellmann's real mayo... ...kraft mayo with olive oil is the new standard in mayo. woman: day care can be so to save some money, i found one that uses robots instead of real people. 'cuz robots work for free. robot 1:good morning...

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washington and that the next u.s. president will be somebody who was not in washington while this nightmare unfolded. you can read the entire story in the current issue featuring gop presidential candidates mitt romney and jon huntsman on the cover. thanks for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> who are you referring to as the next president? >> i was being a little flip. >> and you were being a bit harsh towards mr. obama. >> i was being a bit harsh, but i do feel i was not alone feeling there was not much leadership from him, something has given him the idea that if you're the adult in the room and you're willing to compromise and you're an agreeable guy that will appeal to independents and get him re-elected. i'm not so sure. >> tea party members as a parent, when you have a recalcitrant child and i have three children, all who have been badly behaved throughout the childhood, that you're the parent and you ultimately decide and you lead and you dominate, and yet in this situation we've

had these children in effect symbolically just pushing the president to one side. >> right, and pushing their own party to one side. it's kind of a ridiculous situation, but it happened. it's now part of our history, and -- and we -- one hopes that everyone involved will wake up. my point about the field in 2012 is that romney, notoriously said nothing during this entire debate until -- until he could, you know, shoot some of the hostages. >> apparently under mittness protection. >> i like that. politico came up with that. >> yes, and, you know, also rick perry, although probably sympathetic to the tea party, was also not heard from, and they are at a huge advantage i think in that weak field of the republican party. >> let's focus on another candidate, possible candidate. she hasn't announced yet, but sarah palin who reportedly responded -- she responded to vice president biden who reportedly mentioned tea party lawmakers describing them as

terrorists. let's hear what she had to say. >> heck, sean, if we were real domestic terrorists, shoot, president obama would want to pal around with us, wouldn't he? he didn't have a problem palling around with bill ayers back in the day when he kicked off his political career. >> remarkable that she remembered bill ayers. >> i liked if you put a -- if you -- put a reloaded gun in front of her to use her language, would she be able to remember anything what bill ayers actually did or what his relationship with obama was, but this is -- who knows what she's up to. i do think if she actually did jump into this race, which most people seem to think is unlikely, it would be hilarious because -- they would all be heading for the hills. i think it's probably their worst nightmare >> you don't think she's going to run, do you? >> i don't know. the conventional wisdom is that she won't and she'd rather get publicity, rather be a tv star, but her movie flopped at the box

office. >> yes. >> well, we've noticed because her books, her second book didn't do so well as her first. >> right. >> the documentary has done poorly, not made much money. therefore, do you think if she doesn't step into the race she doesn't really have much purpose. she doesn't really have much to do. >> well, i think that's a great point, so is she going to be satisfied being on the fox payroll and turning up for things like this, or might she get in even with little expectation of getting the nomination just for publicity and merchandising purposes? i wouldn't put it past her but it would create havoc if it happened. >> i've got a copy of the magazine, and your lengthy article which talley in this edition concerns rupert murdoch. you, of course, worked for rupert murdoch. >> a long time ago, briefly. >> you say in the article america is still in denial as far as murdoch is concerned. what do you mean, because britain is not in denial? >> well, i think it's going to spread here. what happened in england isn't going to stay in england. we sort of over 35 years have

become inured to the murdoch way of doing president putting people like sarah palin who could be president of the united states and some of her rivals on the payroll. places like msnbc may have a certain kind of politics, they may have people who cycled into washington on the air but to have four presidential candidates on the pay rolf fox and to be so intimately involved with figures like bernie carrick and rudy giuliani through the years. we don't know where all the bodries buried. >> do you think at some point this phone hacking scandal which is literally, you know, wreaked havoc in britain, may actually come home to roost here in the u.s.? >> i think it can in part because maybe not in the literal way of that phone hacking, we don't know. the fbi is investigating. what we do know is some of the people involved with it and some of the people who have told parliament everything was hunky-dory worked for news organization, for news corp. in america including the head of the "wall street journal" who told parliament only one or two

people were involved in the hacking who just resigned. >> indeed. frank rich, as ever, thank you for joining me. >> thank you for having me. >> no new taxes was the republican mantra, and there are no new taxes, indeed. for a relatively young and small political group they have gotten their way since entering the congress in november. of course, not everyone is thrilled with the tactics used by tea party lawmakers during the debt ceiling crisis. consider this from maureen dowd in today's "new york times." quote, they were like cannibals, eating their own party leaders alive. they were like vampires, draining the country's reputation, credit rating and compassion. they were like zombies, relentlessly and mindlessly coming back again and again to assault their unnerved victims, boehner and president obama. they were like the metallic beasts in "alien" flashing mouths of teeth inside other

mouths of teeth, bursting outoff boehner's stomach every time he came to a bouquet of microphones. it's not that pretty. dr. stanton peele is a psychologist whose specialty is addiction, and he's the author of "seven ways to beat addiction." good afternoon. >> good afternoon, martin. >> can i ask you. what is the effect of giving people their way all of the time? how does it shape our thinking behavior if by being adamant and dogmatic we get our way? >> well, the way i think about it is they are pursuing goals that can't be achieved. it's sort of like a child who has some kind of fantasy, and they keep asking you to give them things to acquire that, but it's impossible to arrive at the goal that they want. the idyllic paths that they are pursuing probably never existed and certainly not something we can reach right now. >> so you're saying that they

are delusional about the past and adamant about the future. >> they are adamant about achieving something that's unachievable, which reminds us of a couple of things. it reminds us of delusion and psychosis. it reminds us of addiction because addicts are seeking something that they can't have. they want a state of happiness or nirvana that can't be achieved except through an artificial substance and reminds us of the norway situation, when people are thwarted at obtaining something they can't, have they often strike out and norway is one kind of example to one kind of reaction to that kind of a frustration. >> but going back to the tea party in this country. do you think that having achieved their goal, no new taxes. instead of this actually making them think about compromise in the future. it's actually simply going to harden them so this kind of battle this. kind of standoff. this kind of face-off is just

going to become routine in washington. >> well, i'm looking at one beyond. they want no new taxes because they seek some kind of idyllic past. no new taxes won't bring them. won't bring them economic recovery so they will have to turn their attention to some other supposed method of attaining that until they go through all of them. perhaps they can push through all of them. perhaps people become discontented and perhaps they will become discontented and people are likely to get riled up, and it could become a very angry movement could, potentially become a violent movement. >> and what about those who oppose this angry group? do you worry that eventually the people who have been whacked will whack back? >> i think right now they are mystified. they are thinking how did they succeed? it's like a child who throws a tantrum. how do they get to that when it makes no sense what they are looking for. we're operating at a symbolic level here, and they control the symbolism now and until at some point there's some dramatic

horrible clash between all of this symbolism and what really they have to face in what is in our hands. >> symbolic maybe, but also literal over the last few month. dr. stanton peeling thank you for joining us. my pleasure, martin. >> coming up, mike huckabee and his 9/11 video. [ male announcer ] in america, we believe anyone can be a hero. kraft singles. we're rich in calcium to help build 'em up strong.

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i'm hampton pearson with your cnbc market wrap. a look at how stocks are doing with 15 minute left in the trading day. struggling off the lows of the day, trying to get into positive territory, breaking through. the dow up about eight points and the s&p up almost five.

the nasdaq up a little over 22 points. now everyday shoppers weren't the only ones tightening their wallets in june. the commerce department says businesses trimmed back on airplane, auto and he have me sheenry orders by 1/8 of 5% which adds up to a little over $440 billion, and that twitter bird is probably swiinging a swt tune after the company landed an $800 million investment deal. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. martin, back to you? >> thank you, hampton. while protests continued outside the courthouse, ousted egyptian president hosni mubarak made his first public appearance today since the february uprights. in what see as an encouraging sign of democracy and accountability, mr. mubarak was wheeled into court on a hospital bed to begin his trial on corruption and other charges.

msnbc's martin fletcher joins us live from cairo. martin, what is mubarak facing in terms of potential punishment? >> well, ultimately a possible death sentence. he's being charged with three counts, corruption, strangely enough selling -- doing a deal with israel selling gas too cheaply to israel. that's also one of the charges. but the main charge, of course, is giving orders that led to the shooting deaths of 850 egyptians during the january-february protests. if found guilty, that carries a possible death sentence. by the way, his two sons are also being charged with corruption. they face between 5 and 15 years, martin. >> when i was watching some of the images, and we're seeing them in front of us, he looks as though he's fairly attentive even though he's reclining and in the prone position. he's actually quite aware and alert. >> yeah. well, you know, as you can imagine, different people said

different things on why he was supposed to have been too sick to take part. his lawyer said that to attend trial, too depressed. he was looking rather ashen-faced it seemed to me when i saw the pictures of him, but others said he was very alert and when his time came to actually give his response to the charge -- to the charges against him he said -- he said i am -- i'm not guilty of any of these charges in a very strong voice. one of the -- one of the people outside the court said at that point, you know, if mubarak was given the chance of becoming president of egypt again, he'd jump right out of bed on the spot. >> he certainly d.martin, you know that part of the world better than any of us. what is the effect, do you think, of this trial on the shaping of a new government in egypt? >> reporter: well, probably a pretty chilling effect on the next leader of egypt because this trial really sends a clear message to the person who replaced mubarak, when the day comes. that message is you are

responsible to the people, and you need to be pay that in mind. this is what happened to mubarak. if you do the wrong thing, this could happen to you, and that's a very strong message that is heard not only in egypt but chillingly enough also for other leaders in the region, of course, bashar assad in syria, moammar gadhafi in libya. they are also looking at this man who was a 30-year-old unchallenged leader of egypt. they call him the pharoah of the country lying helpless on a stretcher inside a metal cage today. everybody is looking at that with great concern, so you can imagine that the next government in egypt when it takes place will have to pay much greater attention to the needs of the people and to the -- to the -- to the constitution. >> nbc's martin fletcher live in kay row. thanks, martin, for joining us. now to the release of chilling new videos that capture the extreme lengths that nancy garrido and her husband philip went toward fulfilling their twisted fantasies.

secretly taping other little girls just two years after the kidnapping of jaycee dugard. scenes of of children at play, unaware of predators just inching away. while disturbing, perhaps more disturbing is that they were shot while phillip garrido was supposed to be under the watchful eye of the authorities. for more on this, i'm joined by criminal profiler pat brown. good afternoon. >> take a look at this entire crime, it wasn't taken seriously enough. this man is a serial rapist and likely a serial killer. that was an adult woman. what was he going to do with her when he was finished raping her over and over again? he would have to kill her. he only got -- didn't get enough

time. he should have been in prison for life, for life, but they let him out and they still didn't take him seriously enough. they sent out some regular old guy to just check on him, like maybe he did just shoplifting. they should have had an eagle eye on him knowing serial rapists or killers never stop what they're doing. >> there's a chilling sense that this is a disturbed tag team. a few sentence after, the woman begins to ship to the right. >> well, yeah, philip garrido is a psychopath, and nancy isn't much farther behind him. she met him while he was in prison and she decided to marry a man that was a kidnapper and rapist. so yes, it was a psychopathic

team that had no respect for other human beings, no respect for children, loved the power and control they got laughing at the authorities, you know, look he's supposed to be on parole, but we've got a girl in the basement. they must have enjoyed tremendously the fact that they could get away with this kind of thing. >> and what about the gall of the video shows parole agents touring their home and literally filming these people? >> it mocks the system. you say if i were them, i guess i would be laughing, too. and we deserve it. if this is the way our justice system works, we deserve a slap in the head. we've got to put these guys away for life or the death penalty if we believe in it, or keep an eagle eye on them. jaycee dueling ard should never have ever gotten into the guy's possession if we had done the

right thing. >> into about the parole authorities who didn't have the interest or curiosity to go further than the front room or the front door? i mean, all they needed to do was go into that property, and they would have seen electrical cables that were supplying power to the den in which this poor young girl was being kept. >> there's no execute for this. as i said they should have a hierarchy of people they send out. that's a regular parole officer, regular stuff. you have something like this, you must have your best parole officer on a person like this. but apparently they just didn't do that, they just sid, check out the guy and didn't take it seriously. i hay to take this back to washington politics, but what about the effects of cutbacks on critical services, which we know already has insufficient numbers to cater for the vast number of

people who are out on the loose? >> well, we have -- all around we have a problem. our law enforcement don't have enough -- there's not enough manpower there, not enough training there. our court system is overburden ed. pat brown, thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks, martin. you can steel more about the newly released have i i don'ts at msnbc.com at our twitter page. or on our facebook page. next, do the right thing, mr. huckabee. >> who would do something like this? a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade. check my investment portfolio, research stocks... wait, why are you taking... oh, i see...solitary.

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it's time to "clear the air." there is now a growing chorus of criticism directed at one-time

hopeful michael huckabee. he has decided to make his fortune with fox news. he's also filling his personal coffers by producing a series of so-called educational videos that highlight important historical events in the life of this nation. his latest, a cartoon, accounting for the events of september 11th, may well be his most controversial yet. for those who missed it, here's a look. ♪ >> no! [ sirens ] >> who would do something like this? ♪ >> al qaeda is led by osama bin laden. >> the time for jihad is upon us. death to the americans! >> when we asked mr. huckabee's company, learn our history, about whether this was just a shameless and insensitive attempt to cash in on the tenth

anniversary of 9/11, they confirmed this is no charity. indeed, it is a business venture. and for retired new york city deputy fire chief jim richers, a father whose fire fight son jim,jr. died at ground zero, the september 11th profit motive is simply disgusting. in fact, he had an idea of his own. >> i'd like to see the kids from 9/11 whose father died go to college, not have to pay a nickel, let's educate them the right way, not for a person to ped the money in the pocket. i think that's blood money and will come back to haunt them some day. >> mr. huckabee, i think the gauntlet has been laid down. for the sake of jimmy jr. and every other soul lost on the darkest of days, it's now your play, sir. thanks very much for watching. dylan ratigan is here to pick things up. for a man who had, i understand,