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commentabout his long-lost brother, my uncle eddy, and said that he thought he was still alive but hiding from the fbi, and i questioned why he would be hiding, and he said, don't you remember? he hijacked that airplane. >> that, marla cooper, speaking on her uncle. a man she believes to be d.b. cooper who famously hijacked a plane in 1971, parachuted out of it with a couple hundred grand in tow. the only successful hijacking in u.s. history. with that said it does not mean it's the fbi's most interesting story from j. edgar hoover to swatching russian spies, all in our next guest's book "the secrets of the fbi." joining us, ronald kessler. if d.b. coop sir not the most compelling story, is there clearly another that is that story? >> the most astonishing thing in
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the book is, how the fbi breaks into homes and offices apds even embassies to plant bugging devices without getting caught and shot as burglar and equally astonishing, the fbi actually gave that to me, although the fbi director approved giving me that material, it's about 20% of the book and it's just so unbelievable. you wouldn't put it in a movie, because it's not believable. before they go into an embassy let's say or an office, they, or a mafia home, that's another example, they will do surveillance for weeks to find out who goes in, who goes out. on the night of the break-in, they have agents who watch anybody who might return. let's say they work in an office and are at home. they want to make sure they don't go back. if they do go back, they will divert them. they will stage a phony traffic accident. dress as police officers and stop them. open a fire hydrant in the area
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0 to make sure nobody goes there and also before they show a photo of any dog that might be in the premises to a veterinarian on contract, and he will prescribe based on the type of dog and weight ever the dog just the right amount of tranquilizer that is then put into a dart gun. >> come on. >> shoot it into the dog. at the end of the break-in, shoot him again whip other drugs to wake them up because they don't want to create suspicion and the even bring their own dust, in case they disturb a coffee table, or desk, put their own dust on to make sure it's undisturbed. create phony fronts to houses or townhouses by taking a picture, creating a huge tarp and the agents will work behind that in the middle of the night to defeat the locks and alarm system, so nobody that's a
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passerby might see them. >> how much is this going on day-to-day now? >> this is very current. i interviewed the actual agent toos do this on a regular basis. some couldn't have their names used in the book and i went to the facility where all this is done. it's a big euphemism word, engineering research facility out in quantico, but what it really is, is it does bugging, it creating bugs, it does the wiretapping, makes the hookups and they even showed me an actual bug. louis griever, the executive assistant director of the fbi third ranking who used to be on these teams himself went to his desk, brought over a bug, which was the size of a postage stamp. a little thicker, and it will record for 10 hours or transmit all in stereo as you wish. it was so shocking that the fbi would give me this that an fbi agent assigned to public affairs and was in on one of these interviews actually interjected
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and said, are you sure we can be giving him this? he or she is questioning the third ranking official in the fbi about whether this material could actually be given to me. another thing they do is create a phony bush. they will go behind the bush and towards the front door of a house and -- >> come on, come on. that's like the "road runner." >> they will. also they go to elevator school in order to learn how to take control of an elevator. so they go into an office building to bug one of the suites and ride up on top of the elevator and in the middle of the night get off. put the bugs in. they get back on the elevator, ride up and down and go out in the morning dressed in business suits. r this publication it was damn good one. those are pretty tall tales that you're telling that apparently are not so tall after all.
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amazing journalism. interested to get the balance of this, mr. kessler. incredible storytelling on your part and, again, the man in the bush moving closer to the house makes me smile. ronald kessler. >> thank you. >> the book "the strits of the fbi," coming up on "hardball" with chris. and first, the "daily rant" how america got to putin on the punch line. ever wonder what this costs you as a taxpayer? millions? tens of millions? hundreds of millions? not a single cent. the united states postal service doesn't run on your tax dollars. it's funded solely by stamps and postage. brought to you by the men and women of the american postal workers union. ♪ over a million people have discovered how easy it is
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hem oh, sir. >> hi. hello america. you probably don't know it but right now should not be showing your face. you should be way too embarrassed. put a paper bag over the head embarrassment. any fan of a losing sports team raiders can tell you, had you're stuck with losers year after year, there's no point pretending. the only way to deal with the shame is to embrace it and flaunt it and wear it, paper bag-style. here's the problem. well, the people running the country are pretending like they're solving things and things haven't bin this way, america's been a punchline in vladimir putin's stand-up routine. a few days ago he went before a crowd of russian teenagers trashing the united states as a pair radio site on the global economy. a russian autocrat calling america a parasite like we're sponging our mother russia, which to be fair we technicy are. i don't know if you remember this or not, just a decade ago
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russia was our punching bag for our transient leaders and comedians. as if russia only existed as a hard lesson to the world as what happens when you mess with the best. it was only yesterday yeltsin was begs us for handouts. russians lining up for hours just to eat a big mac. that felt good. who could folder george bush doing a dempty chicken dance, how i beat the russians in a cold war? but now americans are lining up at mcdonald's job fairs so they can flip burgers for vlad. a decade ago america was commented the most powerful empire the world has ever known. running around lecturing russians and everybody else how they should run their economy and how to run their politics add and we shook our heads sadly how the poor savages would never, ever get their act together and be like us, and now, look at america a decade later? two losing wars, now three. a collapsed economy we can't fix for the life of us because our
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political system is corrupt and broken. today we're a punchline in putin's jokes, an object of his contempt. we're the laughingstock of the world's laughingstock and, folks, it hurts, and it should hurt. and i'm still trying to figure out how this happened or why, i want to know, who. who did this to us? who? who? i want answers. i also want a brown paper bag, but i want answers and the names of the failure whose are doing this to us. last time i was on this program i talked about this problem and i offered a way maybe we could fight back, an organization called ratchetrfocrs. when i tell you i was surprised by the reaction from that show by viewers. i want you to know with your help, this organization is moving forward. blaming one side or the other is not working, and being just cynical about it, it's not doing anything. we're failing, because failures are in control. but i don't think it's helpless,
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