tv News Nation MSNBC August 5, 2011 11:00am-12:00pm PDT
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go before the markets close the "news nation" is following the fast-changing numbers on wall street after that disastrous thursday we witnessed. a better than expected jobs report put the numbers bounce back a bit today. let's take a look at the market boards. the dow is up 132 points, unemployment ticked down slightly to 9.1% in the month of july. but, the big news is in the private sector where 150,000 jobs were added nationally. president obama discussed the number during a speech today at -- with naval troops this morning. >> my concern right now, my singular focus, is the american people. we need to create a self-sustaining cycle where people are spending and companies are hiring and our economy is growing. but what i want the american people and our partners around the world to know is this -- we are going to get through this. things will get better. and we're going to get there together.
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>> cnbc chief washington correspondent john harwood joins me now. we're looking at a vastly different day. obviously this same time, 24 hours ago, we were watching the markets sell-off. is this positive news we're seeing today because of the jobs report? give us some perspective here. >> yes. and i think some of the panic yesterday was a little out of control, but look, we are as the president suggested in those remarks, in a situation where the jobs picture is going to be weak for a long time, where the economy is going to be weak for a long time. yes, we're in recovery, but we're looking at say in the second half of this year, maybe 2.5% growth, maybe 3%, 3.5% next year. that's better than we've been, better than the first quarter, but it's not robust and you're still going to have millions and millions of americans feeling like this economy is not work for them. >> john, with the opinions that are out there, there are many as you well know. i heard a number of people say listen, this is the result of washington not being able to make decisions, the debacle we
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saw with the debt ceiling debate, but most emphasis, obviously what's happening in europe and italy and spain specifically and greece of course, that is having a big impact on our markets here. what do you see as the core problem? >> well, i think europe was the key problem in the market turbulence yesterday, but the underlying economic problem we've got, tamron, is the collapse and demand, you know, consumers who got used to borrowing especially borrowing against the value of their homes which they thought was rising indefinitely now are pulling back and that lack of demand is what's preventing the expansion of jobs in a much more rapid rate. the question is, what gets that demand going? how do you stimulate the economy? there isn't any appetite for fiscal stimulus. as long as there's pressure from politicians to cut spending, you're not going to have that employment come back. >> what about those who say we
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are settling in to hard times, settling in to a recession again? >> i don't think we are settling into a recession. i think it's unlikely that we have a double dip, but we are settling in to a period economically that may last multiple years where people feel as if they're not getting ahead. we've had a long-term economic problem with trying to raise the wages of the middle class and some of the props that were making people feel more wealthy like the rising value of their homes, have now been knocked out of this economy and i think the american public is likely to be a bad -- in a bad mood throughout 2012 and bad mood for a few years after that. >> all right. thank you very much, john. let's get more on the market reaction and some of the things that john had to say with lee gallagher, assisting managing editor for "fortune" magazine. what is your perspective? >> i think john made a great point. that is leverage. leverage isn't something we've talked about since the days of 2008 which really caused the crisis, the fact we binged on this debt, both companies and
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individuals, but, you know, the hard truth is that this is a really rocky recovery and so this de-leveraging process is really going to take years. the consumer is about two-thirds of the economy. when you're talking about households readjusting to not having this drug, the home prices that are rising to fuel their spending that's going to a long-lasting impact on the economy. that's what this fear is in the market right now. it's the fear that our growth is going to slow. because for a while we thought we were in recovery and the coast was clear. >> politically everyone has their talking points but republicans including senator kaye bailey hutchinson of texas saying it's the uncertainty with the jobs creator creating the problem here and they're worried about how much they will have to forgo and pay with what she referred to as obama care. and some of the uncertainty surrounding those who would end up hiring some of the 14 million americans out of work. is that the core of the problem as you see it? >> i think as you said, politics does get into play here. jobs is definitely a tremendous -- it's the biggest issue. as we saw the number today it
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was good, but in march and april, we were seeing jobs created in the number of 200,000 a month. this was better than expected but we still face a serious problem there. companies are doing fine. i mean companies are doing well because they're not hiring. they have reduced their costs dramatically. i think the companies have done the best job of navigating through the crisis. >> we say better than expected numbers, these 154,000 private sector jobs, what's behind this better than expected comment that we keep hearing over and over again? >> you never know with the jobs. at the same time, today they also revised back last month's numbers again. it's a soft science. it is a pretty safe assumption that means things, more companies hired. it's pretty straightforward. more companies hired than economists were predicting. now that doesn't mean it's enough. it takes about 250,000 jobs a month simply to keep up with the pace of new people entering the work force. >> we know it is not enough. the president uttered those words today. we will see what happens as the
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dow is having a better hour at least right now than we saw 24 hours ago. thank you very much. >> thanks for having me. developing news this afternoon, the president is expected to end a partial shutdown with the faa. it literally took less than 30 seconds for the senate to pass the compromised bill this morning. yesterday afternoon, the house passed the measure which will put some 70,000 faa workers back to work. nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell joins us. thank goodness, for change around there that something gets done. we had an faa worker on yesterday, kelly, who was literally circling all of the days, weeks that would pass without him getting a paycheck. >> i think that kind of a real life experience had an impact on members of congress who had been fighting this out for a while and it had been largely overshadowed by the debt ceiling debate and so the urgency that was so focused on avoiding the nation's default maybe wasn't applied to the faa issue right away. and then the house left town. they passed a bill.
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the senate had not acted. what happened was a bipartisan compromise to agree to pass the house bill and the issue there had been cuts in cludsed in that to rural communities to trim back some of the subsidies from the government to the smaller airports and there was a lot of concern on the senate side in part because some powerful senators are from those hometowns. and so they decided to kind of put this all on hold for three more weeks, pass the short-term extension, those furloughed workers can likely be back at work on monday, paychecks rolling again, and then there's the whole issue of the lost taxes. on airline plane tickets we all pay a federal tax. that was not being collected during the few weeks when this kind of impasse was going on. the airlines were able to pocket that legally take that money as part of their profit, and now that was lost money to the government all over an issue about trying to save the government money. they were able to kind of move it through quickly today with this agreement, still a lot of concern about what happens next because mid-september this issue
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will bubble back up, and now that we've seen the examples of real people who have been put in a hard spot because of this, it may give them more motivation to come up with a longer term solution. but this has been going on for a very long time with just short-term extensions and this one they really dropped the ball and now they've tried to fix it and there will still be some people who have not been happy about this process and how it didn't really come together until the final moment. >> and they may not forget all this all went down. thank you very much, kelly. greatly appreciate it. there is fear of widespread power outages in texas where records for power demand have been set this week as the scorching heat just drags on through a large part of our country. minutes ago the temperature officially hit 100 degrees in dallas for the 35th straight day. hundred degree heat is also expected again today in oklahoma, arkansas and louisiana. other parts of the south are headed into the 90s, mid 90s.
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nbc tom joins us from atlanta. a little water near you. this power outage thing is serious when you think about at this point air conditioning is not a luxury if you have it, it's a necessity down there. >> the sad situation, some people don't have air conditioning or because of their utility situation can't get access to it leading to heat related deaths. plenty of parents and kids coming to try to stay cool and that's been the theme throughout the summer because of the high humidity and hot temperatures. people are seeking relief. and this heat wave is not just brutal, but it's unrelenting. you mentioned about triple digit heat. in some parts of texas and arguably texas right now, is likely the hottest part of the country right now. places like san angelo, they've had more than 60 consecutive days of triple digit heat. if you can imagine that. because of the drought situation they're going through as well
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that's exacerbating a dire situation at this point. talk about heat related deaths in places like maryland, they've had 21 heat related deaths, oklahoma 15 and ten cases right now pending in texas. they have 11 and sadly anticipate that going up as well. this time of year you have more kids going back to school pretty soon and that means football practice, band practice. after a couple of deaths of high school football players some schools in georgia have revamped and tweaked their practice sessions and schedules instead of practices during the day, early in the morning, some as early as 6:00 in the morning and late in the evening around 7:00 so they can avoid the heat during the day. >> thanh, thank you very much. soldiers will be getting relief from the year-long back-to-back deployments. we'll tell you more. and dylan ratigan will join us for the final part of our series "jobs wanted." dylan will tell us how reforming the banking system could help get americans back to work.
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we need to do more to make the transition from military to civilian life easier for our veterans. that's why i'm directing the departments of defense and veterans affairs to design what we're calling a reverse boot camp. >> that was president obama only a short time ago today as he proposed new help for america's 1 million unemployed military veterans. the president's plan includes
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tax credits for companies that hire out-of-work vets. >> we're challenging the private sector to hire or train 100,000 unemployed post-9/11 veterans or their spouses by the end of 2013. >> meantime military officials tell nbc news deployment lengths for most u.s. soldiers serving in war zones will drop from 12 months to 9 starting with those sent after january 1st. time at home between deployments will also increase. the army is expected to make an official announcement as early as some time today. joining me nbc military analyst and medal of honor recipient, retired general jack jacobs. what do you think of the changes we're seeing? >> i think they were going to occur naturally. we're accelerating our withdraw from afghanistan and also iraq and for conventional troops, that means fewer deployments anyway. we're also reducing the size of the force. that means you're going to have fewer people who will be able to be deployed overseas. it's a long time coming, long
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overdue and very helpful but we're still going to have lots of special forces, special operation forces, s.e.a.l.s and the like still doing their deployments. >> with the nine-month deployment, that would mean 24 to 27 months at home compared with the 12 months most soldiers get now. that's a lot. i mean -- >> that's a lot and i don't think you're going to see that -- you will see that among some administrative and technical people but the front end people, i'm talking about, special forces, they're going to be continued to be deployed. >> but then this news doesn't sound as inspiring as it did initially. >> no no. it's a functional withdraw. i talked to one kid who had been deployed 11 times. >> 11 times. >> what do you make of that? >> we need -- we need their specific military occupational specialties. we're fighting a war in which conventional forces are not useful and focusing our attention on people like those in special forces and so on. >> i have to get your reaction to the president saying that or trying to see some significant changes in the help afforded to
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the 1 million unemployed military veterans. i always tell people you want to go outside a va hospital and see something really sad, you see those men and women out there who are being beaten up by life because they're not getting help. >> what the president has said is really, really good news and it's something that needed some attention for a long time. the unemployment rate among veterans is sky rocketing. >> homeless rate. >> and the homeless rate as well. it's complete nonsense. there is nobody who gets more responsibility and authority at an early age as you know than people in the military and they have at least as much experience, i mean real-life experience and more than people -- as people who are being hired now. this is not charity. companies would be well advised to hire people like this who have shouldered lots and lots of responsibility and authority and are disciplined and ready to go to work. >> colonel, thank you so much. big stoppics. we appreciate. msnbc and nbc are focusing on efforts to help veterans find
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jobs. for more information on upcoming hiring fairs across this country, logon to making a difference.msnbc.com. coming up, inside president obama's 50th birthday bash. we've got details on which a-listers were at the white house with the first family last night. interesting list of folks. >> mr. and mrs. rachel and chris chapman. >> a dream come true. a woman pushed into a pool by her friend, at her bachelorette party left paralyzed. it was an accident. now she has something to smile about with her husband who stood by her side and they will join us with an inspiring story on this friday. >> three, two, one. ignition and liftoff. >> journey to jupiter, a spacecraft flies off. the details on what nasa is up to.
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you might say it's been a long time coming a bride-to-be paralyzed the during a freak accident last year, finally had her dream come true. >> i, chris, take you rachel to be no other than yourself. >> i rachel, take you chris, to be no other than yourself. >> rachel and chris were married july 22 and they just got back yesterday from their honeymoon in fiji. in may rachel was paralyzed when one of her bridesmaids pushed her into a pool one month before the wedding. since then rachel's positive attitude allowed her to make her dream of marrying her fella a reality. they are both with me now. thank you so much. i greatly appreciate you joining me. rachel, you look beautiful, first of all. >> thank you. >> i love your dress you got going on and you look rested. just got back from your
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honeymoon. >> i slept on the plane the whole way pretty much. >> you've been an inspiration to so many and when folks first saw the story and heard about this accident that happened, obviously their hearts went out to you. then to see you continue to fight back and then the day, what fuels you, what's inside i wish we all had during our hardest moments that we face? >> well, i mean, you never know what you're going to do until you're in that situation. i mean, i get my strength from my family and chris and my friends and in the very beginning i really just wanted to be strong for them as much as myself. i wanted to stay the person that i was, you know, for the people that i loved. >> chris, we often will tell a fella you are lucky to have this, but you are, lucky to have her in your life. >> it's been a great time. we finally had a chance to get our wedding. i am a very lucky man. >> how did it feel when you saw her there in her gown, you know, having that beautiful smile on her face? >> it was amazing. it was a very emotional time. obviously a lot of planning went into it and we finally got
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everhing togethe and it was very emotional to see her dad bringing her down the aisles and my uncle was the minister for the ceremony. we had a lot of family. >> you bonded with -- i saw people who were also on the island when you were there, some of the kids, they really fell in love with you. who wouldn't, i should say. >> oh, yeah. chris and i both, we like before i was hurt, back when i was in college i was a recreation major and i went on trips to costa rica and i loved that kind of in the culture kind of thing. yeah. >> i'm curious what is next for the both of you. i mean, obviously through tragedy sometimes as you pointed out, rachel, we learn things about ourselves and maybe where we should go on this journey. what's next for you? >> well, i mean i would love to do speaking and have chris join me and do motivation and i really would like to go back to rehab. i really need rehab and this foundation walking with anthony is helping me out and i might be -- i'm going to a walk in california which is a great
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facility. >> you would like to speak to people about motivation. >> yeah. >> inspire them? >> like slowing down, stop, you know, stop hustle and bustle, and just chill out and appreciate life because you never know when it's going to change. >> i got to ask you about the friend who was involved in this accident. a lot of people concerned and curious. what's the relationship like? >> we are still best friends. i mean, she -- it was no malice, not intentional, and i mean, we're still very, very close. >> chris, i don't want to put words in your mouth, how proud are you of this woman? >> her strength through everything was simply amazing. from the moment of the accident, she just had a very calm, collected attitude about her and that's really what got her through and helped support the family. >> you're a beautiful couple, inspiring. i wish you the best. if you want to speak to people or whatever is next, i know you're going to succeed at it. >> thank you so much. >> great energy. thank you both. coming up on "news nation" -- >> there are no clear-cut answers in this case.
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it's a mess. >> no clear-cut answers i would say casey anthony's fate is still in limbo as she waits to find out if she's going to be forced to return to florida. an update. when the lights -- when the lights out -- well when they went out, -- i don't know what this is. when the lights went out at rick santorum's event the republican candidate didn't miss a beat even though i missed one trying to read the story. "news nation" is back in three. as a manager, my team counts on me to stay focused. so i take one a day men's 50+ advantage. it's the only complete multivitamin with ginkgo to support memory and concentration. plus vitamin d to help maintain healthy blood pressure. [ bat cracks ] that's a hit. one a day men's.
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in a seductive photo for french "vogue." the pictures are infuriating some people and this is not the only picture. we'll show you some folks say are too risky and call it kiddie porn. >> after george clooney split with his girlfriend rumors he has a new lady in his life. she's famous. the july jobs report saw growth across major sectors crucial while lawmakers fight to provide added investment into the economy. 154,000 new private sector jobs is a good start, but we could see big gains in employment if some of the biggest banks start investing some of the trillions of dollars in cash they are sitting on so to speak. here to wrap up our three-part series "jobs wanted" dylan ratigan. i really think this one draws a lot of emotion out of people because we have such strong feelings about the banks after t.a.r.p. and some of the things that were reported how they
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handled mortgages and so on. >> i think in addition to that because banking has -- it was one thing, turned into a different thing, and it's -- hides in a lot of complexity, and that's deliberate because the more there's complexity around its more people are like they know something i don't know, and so i think that also adds a layer of frustration and resentment to the way the banking system function because it has a certain arrogance in the way it relates to the rest of the country that i think is understandably upsetting and certainly feels unjust. but at the end of the day whether you like the banks or not you have to have banks in order for an economy to function. you want to have banks aligned with the interest of your company as opposed to in opposition to them. again we did speak about trade and we talked about how fixing the tax code could lead to jobs. today it is about banking. the best way i can describe our banking sector right now, and really any banking sector, as i was saying to tamron, is it's like a leaf blower. follow me on this.
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what i mean is that banking system can either be designed to inject money, inject capital and spread it around to businesses and the rest of it, or it can be designed to suck the money out. like a leaf blower. same engine. we're losing our money. do you blow up the leaf blower or flip the switch. we're stuck in the reverse position where the banks are taking money out of our country as opposed to putting it into play. >> the way you've laid it out i'm sure a lot of people at home would say this sounds like what we saw in 2008 and 2009. same old game. >> yeah. that's quite simply what it is as you know and as a lot of folks at home know, as a country we really gave away the farm to that banking -- that extracting banking system in 2008 and made no changes in the way that banks actually do business. president bush did whatever he had to do and, in fact, to kick the can down to the road to barack obama because it was happening in september, election in november, whatever i have to do to not deal with this and make it his problem.
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president obama gets the problem and doubles down on the bush plan because he wants to do health care. doesn't want to get involved in this stuff. people saying listen, it's under control, it's fine as a result, wall street was allowed to continue as they always were, whether you like it or not, that's what happened. whether you think it was because of this person or that person, the president, secretary geithner and federal reserve chairman bernanke threw trillions of dollars of our cash, to try to keep the banks afloat printing this money, that we don't have. problem with that, like pouring water into a bucket with a hole at the bottom. there's no amount of water you can pour in because until you plug that hole in the bucket you're not going to have investment. that's extraction, right. you look at the incentives in banking and trade law which we've talked about. >> right. >> makes it far more profitable if you and i ran a bank right now, far more profitable to
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engage in financial speculation, far more profitable to take the money given to us by the government, loan it back to the federal government, which what is they're doing to fund our own government, or take it overseas. the point is whether giving it to our government or taking it overseas or using it for speculation in current banking law, all of those things are more profitable than domestic lending. so in order to reverse the blower, we need to actually have a real debate in this country about laws that might encourage banks to lend as opposed to speculate and extract. it's not about whether i have the right idea to do that, or whether you do, it's about whether we're even having a debate that's saying why are our banking making money, taking money out, as opposed to making money, putting in, because what we know, prerequisite for jobs is money flowing into your country. we talked about that. and you cannot have job creation if you do not have a flow of money in and the banking system is not doing that. >> we need this debate on the laws.
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we've had nutters of it time and time again when there is a crisis and we are at a crisis point. i would say the discussion or debate on the laws and regulations certainly is not matching the problem, at least right now. >> and if you look at the data, this is not a political problem, this is a mathematical problem. >> right. >> whether it's trade, taxes or banking. the politicians can say we've solved banking. maybe they have or haven't. are we still getting extraction or reversal in the leaf blower. the fact of the matter the extraction rate from our country by the trade deficit, by the banking system, and through the tax code, is at an all-time high and it's as if we're sitting here acting that we're trying to solve a problem without making an honest evaluation of its root cause. >> all right. dylan, insightful as always. you can catch the dylan ratty can show every week day 4:00 p.m. on msnbc. you will be talking about what's happening on wall street and again, this continued problem in
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the issue of getting people back to work. >> one thing quick on wall street, because we talked about the crash yesterday. the european central bank, much like our central bank, it's already in the markets today, has the opportunity to buy every bond in europe and relieve this whole debt crisis. that will only relieve it for two or three months and when people then realize it was just money printing, but for those who are concerned we're about to get into this cascade, the sky is going to fall, be aware that there are both the european central bank and our own central bank both have probably one bullet left each. maybe have a few more months for these two bullets to get shot and then 2012 is anybody's bet. >> just got word the dow is up 96 points. >> that dow is up on a reversal on speculation that the european central bank will buy all of those italian bonds. >> use that one bullet. >> use their last bullet. >> thank you, dylan. another liftoff from cape canaveral tops our look at the news nation today.
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today, nasa launched a different kind of spacecraft when it sent a probe on a mission to jupiter. the solar powered explorer named juno will arrive to jupiter in july of 2016, almost five years after takeoff. the goal of the unmanned mission is to understand the planet's composition and search for any presence of water. paul mccartney says when he's done with his summer tour he will contact police over accusations his phone was hacked. ex-wife heather mills spoke out accusing the trinity mirror of hacking into her personal voice mail. rebels in libya says moammar gadhafi's youngest son has been killed. 27-year-old cha miss. the nato says it was aware of the report but could not confirm the death. the judge who presided over the casey anthony murder trial says he needs more time to decide whether or not to order the 25-year-old back to florida.
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at issue whether or not casey anthony actually served out her probation and jail while awaiting trial. the judge says it's, quote, a legal maze. >> there are no clear-cut answers in this case. it's a mess. >> we're joined by ann bremner. what do you make of this? the judge says a legal maze. there are other words at this point to describe. what do you think is the appropriate action here? >> i think it's a legal maze, but i think the appropriate thing is he started to tell us you don't serve probation in jail, it's an act of grace, testing of somebody and compliance so that happens when you're released from jail or when a jail sentence is suspended. so they're mutually exclusive jail and probation. the next thing is, on the order from judge strickland, should it be enforced? an oral decision from a judge takes precedent over a written decision. judge strickland said upon release. that should take precedent.
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i think that the judge has said that today, judge perry said it should. >> hearing from legal analysts like that this is turning into double jeopardy, that casey anthony was cleared, she was told she served out her probation and this is just prolonging this situation for no -- as one said no good reason. >> well, but the thing is, that there's a flip argument to that and that is, double jeopardy is you can't have life and limb put in jeopardy twice and probation is not part of that. it's remedial, almost civil, so that's not double jeopardy to have probation at the end of the day. and the fact finally is, i hate to go on the legal terms, it's a word that the judge put in the original order, judge strickland. he didn't amend it. no time issue and argument of what -- in favor of what he's done. it means i did it back then. upon release, i said it back then that's what the order says from back then and so it should be enforced. and i think that's something that's been lost in the analyses we've heard. it's an order that existed at that time that should be enforced now.
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we'll see what happens but it may be much ado about nothing to some people but karma to other. death, taxes and karma the three things in life. people want to see casey anthony have some repercussions and probation may be part of that and that's why we're watching this so closely. >> ann bremner with us again, thank you very much. up next, new details about mark anthony and j. lo's split. marc reportedly begging his wife to take him back. "us weekly" senior editor bradley jacobs joins me life. a lot going on today. things we thought you should know. arnold schwarzenegger is back. the former california governor has made his first speech since admitting he fathered a child with the family's housekeeper and splitting with his wife maria shriver. he gave the keynote address at an american chamber of commerce event last night in l.a. where he joked that he's getting back into politics. >> i'm going to run in 2012 -- [ applause ]
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>> i'm going to run for president of the national body building association. >> and we are learning more about president obama's 50th birthday barbecue bash at the white house. some of the big names in attendance included celebs like jay-z, tom hanks, stevie wonder, chris rock and oprah. also in attendance, the president's former chief of staff rahm emanuel who is now the chicago mayor and house minority leader nancy pelosi and secretary of state hillary clinton. and last night, an iowa 2012 republican candidate rick santorum spoke to more than 200 guests and mid-speech he was cut off when the power went out. he broke into song singing "strangers in the night." here's that moment. >> [ inaudible ]. ♪ strangers in the night >> those are the things we thought you should know.
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sitting in for martin bashir. coming up, we're going to dig deep into the economic crisis. it's not just about jobs and it's not just about the markets. we'll lay out what needs to be done to achieve a real long-term recove recovery. what does the white house have to say about today's unemployment report? >> rumors are swirling that george clooney has a new girlfriend. a new take on the "planet of the apes" hits theaters and a special effects blockbuster we're told and a little gossip. marc anthony may be begging j. lo to take him back. courtney has the day off. the scoop from badly jacobs senior editor of "us weekly." always love having you on. george clooney has a new girlfriend reportedly. >> this is not reportedly. >> it's a fact. >> yeah. it's a fact several sources tell us, kind of unexpected, he has
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been dating stacy keebler. remember her, the former wrestler. >> "dancing with the stars." >> she's almost 20 years younger than him, but they have been spending a lot of time together in london and at his spacious pad in lake cuomo. you look like you don't believe it. i'm here to tell you it's true some. >> some of my produce noted he's often with brunettes. >> that's why it's unusual. he's sort of getting out of his color rut if you will. >> hate to word it that way. anyway, and he broke up or they just broke up, elizabeth canal his in june. that's a fast move. >> they move quickly in hollywood. let's move on. i cannot wait to see "rise of the planet of the apes." it looks amazing. >> this seems to be the movie to see this weekend. going to be number one at the box office, probably make about $40 million. and people were doubting it, yet another "planet of the apes" movie, the horrible bomb tim burton did ten years ago. this one is good.
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james franco creates a drug that enables chimpanzees to think and kind of goes from there. it's a prequel or a reboot if you will to all those famous plan "planet of the apes" movies we grew up watching. >> the special effects look incredible. >> ever since avatar special effects have gotten incredible you're not seeing a ape with a wig on his head, pancake face. the apes are better than the human acting. >> oh, man. >> another good movie, "the changeup" getting a lot of buzz. which one do you think will take home the victory? >> "change-up" is getting poor reviews. >> it looks great. >> things are meant to look great. you finally get there -- >> like, duh, two good looking guys, looks great. >> it's a classic switchup comedy, ryan reynolds switches bodies with harry dad of jason bateman and they wake up and have to learn how the other half lives, but our critic gave it a poor review, lots of other bad
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reviews out there. still, it will make $20 million or so over the weekend. >> last but not least the cover of your magazine, mark anthony and j. lo, he wants her back. that's like a duh. they were married. >> not only does he want her back, harassing her on the phone, calling her, his mood shifts all the time, goes from blaming her to begging her to come back to him, to saying she's ruined his life. he's made things difficult for her. they have this divorce, they're working on this divorce. >> two beautiful children. how is that working out? >> the twins have only been with jennifer since the breakup. he has not been seen with them at all. she's been spending a lot of time with them. he seems to want to delay this divorce. he's contesting every point along the proceedings. he seems to want her to reconsider. >> wow. we'll see what happens. again, they have kids so you feel bad when caught in that. thank you, bradley. good stuff. for the latest entertainment news logon to scoop.today.com or be a fan on facebook. or you can just get "us weekly."
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time now for "news nation" gut check. does a fashion spread featuring a 10-year-old model go too far? this is tilan whose provocative pictures in "vogue" paris editorial made people question if they're too sexy for a child who's 10. she's featured wearing lipstick, tight dresses, stiletto heels and on a pillow. bloggers say the girl is stunning the others say the way she's styled goes beyond what is appropriate. joining me via skype, a contributor for jez za bell.com. thank you for joining us. what's your take on these pictures? >> i'm not necessarily terribly concerned about that french "vogue" spread in particular but i think that the body of tilan's work includes some things that are in my opinion not so age appropriate and i would hope
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that she's working under adequate supervision and her parents are involved in all of the fashion work she's doing becauses there certainly seems a lot of it. >> there were people on the blogs comparing this to kiddie porn. are members of the fashion industry, the people who pick these editorials, are they in your opinion sensitive enough to how these pictures can be perceived? are they able to look beyond what they see as the art of this? >> i sometimes think within the world of fashion, people get used to seeing things in a certain way and certainly there are a lot of -- a lot of creativity in fashion. but when a spread like this gets published, i feel like some professionals along the way have made some really poor decisions. >> what are they trying to say to us? there are beautiful models who are, you know -- i'll take you up to the teens, 17, 18, 19, who would be able to do this spread and capture the essence here. what are they trying to say to us using this little girl in
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this specific pose we're seeing here. what is the message here in your opinion? >> well, this particular spread was published in have the kwoeg have paris age issue, which was -- i mean the issue of age and fashion included spreads of models in their 60s and 70s as well as spreads with models in their 30s and 40s, models in their teens. i think that if you consider it in that context, they were clearly trying to make a point about the way that the fashion industry relates to women in general, which is often very cont dixtry and problematic and the fashion industry wants to see little girls as women and treat women as though they were girls. and you can't see that in these pictures. tilan is styled as a child who's gone a little crazy with her mother's makeup, perhaps dressing up in these incredibly expensive clothing that most grown women can't afford. you know, i don't know if -- i
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guess it's opinion divided on whether that was a successful critique of that problematic fascination that fashion has with young girls. i can see that there is an argument for that being their intention. >> i certainly think that many girls can relate to playing dress-up, not to that degree, though, which is why there are eyebrows raised on this. thank you so much. we appreciate it. what does your gut tell you? are the pictures we showed you of this 10-year-old girl too sexy? go to newsnation.msnbc.com. see what they're saying about yesterday's gut check about the teacher suspended this year for blogging about her students. she called some of them rude, lazy, disengaged whiners and referred to some as frightfully dim. we asked should that teacher be allowed to return to the school as officials have decided to do. you were evenly split. 49% of you said yes, 51% of you said no. by the way the school district says students can opt out of
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that teacher's class if they want to. that does it for "news nation." i'm tamron hall. thanks for joining us all week long catch "news nation" back here on monday, 2:00 p.m. eastern time. hope you enjoy your weekend. up next, ezra klein is in for martin bashir. uh, i'm in a timeout because apparently riding the dog like it's a small horse is frowned upon in this establishment! luckily though, ya know, i conceal this bad boy underneath my blanket just so i can get on e-trade and check my investment portfolio, research stocks, and set conditional orders. wait, why are you taking... oh, i see.
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