tonight, the republicans agree on one thing. they don't believe in making sense of the economy. now, it's his turn. president obama, goes on the road after the gop. we will hear from him live. plus, new details of the investigation into congressman darrell issa. the one who once said president obama is corrupt. and are we corporations people? some republicans think so. me and my pet bank will answer that question. welcome to the show. i'm al sharpton. tonight's lead, reality versus unreality. that's the actual choice in this presidential campaign. it looks like the republicans have their top three set, rick perry, michele bachmann, and mitt romney. but they are all from the party

of unreality. they are planning it create jobs, we weaken government, dismantle the safety net. and take from the poor and give to the rich. that's their plan. their gender will drive the economy off the cliff. while president obama is dealing with reality. today, he started a bus tour across the midwest with the town hall in minnesota. and he went right after the republicans in congress. >> but some in congress would rather see their opponent lose than america win. we ended up creating more uncertainty and more damage to the economy that was already weak. now, we can't have patience with that kind of behavior any more. >> there is no shortage of ideas to put people to work right now. what is needed is action on the part of congress.

a willingness to put the partisan games aside, and say, we're going to do what's right for the country, not what we think is going to score some political points for the next election. >> for years, we've been hearing republican lawmakers and governors attack the government. as if they've forgotten their government workers. when republicans attack government, they are actually attacking the american people. you and me. and your neighbors and your parents and your kids. and grand kids. the president took those critics head on. telling the real story about what government actually does. >> government is social security. government are teachers in the classroom. government are a firefighters and our police officers. and the folks who keep our water clean and our air clean to breath. and our agricultural workers. and when you good it a national park and those folks in the

hats, that's government. don't buy into the whole notion that somehow, government doesn't do a thing, government is what protects us, government is what built the interstate highway system, government is what sent a man to the moon. >> the president also cut through the right wing spin on his healthcare law, and signalled, he'll get tough to defend it. >> have you a governor running for president right now, who instituted the exact same thing in massachusetts. this used to be a republican idea, by the way, this whole idea of the individual man tate. and suddenly, it's like they got amnesia. like, oh, this is terrible. this is going to take away froe dom for americans all over the world. >> i have no problem with folks obama cares. i do care. if the other side want to be the folks who don't care, that's fine with me.

>> what we saw today, was a president dealing with reality. a leader responsible for the lives of 312 million americans. but what we've seen from republicans is more unreality. politicians pandering to the tiny portion of their fringe base. these republican candidates can't even face reality about their own records. michele bachmann hasn't sponsored a single jobs bill, that's become law in the entire five years in congress. mitt romney says he's mr. jobs creator, even though massachusetts ranked 47 out of 50. in job creation when he was governor. and rick perry, is twisting the facts on his job record as governor. but the so-called texas miracle, he did it again today. >> 40% of all the jobs created in america from june of 2009

until the present were created in texas. i know how to create jobs. >> as paul krugman points out in new york times today, the texas miracle is a myth. it offers no useful lessons on how to restore national full employment. job growth in texas was fuelled by immigration, a growing population, and high oil prices. things perry had nothing to do with. most of the jobs created were actually low income jobs. nearly 10% of texas workers earn just minimum wage. the worst in the country. and texas ranks 26 in the country in unemployment. that's right, for half of america has better jobless rate than texas. the so-called texas miracle is a mirage. that's why rick perry is in the unreality party.

equally unreal is rick perry's view of america's safety net. he calls social security, quote, a ponzi scheme. he says it is a failure. folks, if you are against social security, the most successful government program of all time, then rick per i have your man. the truth is, the entire republican economic aen da is based on the idea of protecting the rich. michele bachmann made that point clear on meet the press. >> the job creation is taking the united states down from about the top corporate tax rate in the world, at 34%, down to something like is far more competitive. >> what about extending jobless benefits for people who are out of work. you think that's a necessary step? >> i think it would be very difficult for us to do because we, frankly, don't have the money. >> so we have money to give corporationes a massive tax cut, but not enough money to give

ordinary americans some help. if they try to find jobs. that not reality, and that's not the kind of leadership americans need to turn the economy around. in fact, today billionaire investors warren buffet wrote a new york times ad demanding that people pay taxes like him, the super rich. buffet took aim at quote, legislators in washington who feel compelled to protect us. much as if we were spotted owls. or some kind of endangered species. my friends and i have been cod elled longs enough by a billionaire friendly congress. it's time for our government to get serious about share id sacrifice. end of quote. in just a few minutes, the president will be speaking in iowa at the next stop of his bus tour. i have a question for the party of unreality.

your top three candidate may be all set, but are they ready for this? >> i'm here to enlist you in a fight. we are fighting for the future of our country. and that is a fight we are going to win. that is a promise that i make with your help. >> the battle is between the unreality and the reality. we went through eight years of unreality. weapons of mass destruction that was not there, unreality. tax cuts that would provide jobs, unreality. trickle down economics that would help bring the bottom up, unreality. we have gone through two years of reality, the reality of trying to undo where unrye alt brought us. we don't need to go back to what unreality caused in the first place. we need to keep digging out of

this unreality. this facade, this mirage, this smoke and mirrors that only cracks our stul and cuts our fewer tour. we need reality, it's tough, but i tell you something, it's much better than the toughness of the dilution of leadership that we suffered for eight years to put us in this mess. i need reality and you do too, because we have to live in it everyday. we can't live in unreality. it doesn't work for people on the ground. . coming up, it's on. rick perry road into michele bachmann's hometown last night. let's just say it was a cool meeting. inside the gop slug fest. how is oversight chair darrell issa could start a new investigation on himself. and explosive new report is out.

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>> hundreds of miles way from the politics of washington, the president is busy selling americans on his jobs agenda.

he is about to speak in iowa at the second stop of his bus tour across the midwest. earlier today in minnesota, he was promoting solutions and making sure you know what the problem is. >> sitting in congress right now can put hundreds of thousands of folks to work, right now -- >> congress needs to move. what is needed is action on the part of congress. >> president wants congress to extend the payroll tax cut, extend unemployment benefits, and create an infrastructure bank. he a pushing for smaller ideas too. new trade deals. patent reform and tax breaks for businesses hiring vets. will these plans help get the unemployment rate down? can the president get congressional republicans to even consider them? well, joining me now, pennsylvania congressman, a proud member of the progressive caucus. how are you doing congressman?

>> i'm doing well. i'm happy to see that president is out and he's really ready to fight on some of these issues that are clearly important to the country's future. you know, i think that the republican straw poll the other day lined this things up quite well with michele bachmann, my colleague, and ron paul first and second. pawlenty who they said would be the guy, he's now out. so you know, i think we have a few more shake ups to go but eventually we will get down to the american people. that's that we need someone on the critical issues facing the country and the president is showing again today why americans support him in this effort. >> i mean, it's what i call the unreality party against the reality party. i don't agree, as i'm sure you don't, on everything the president does. but i mean, we have to at least start from the framework of looking at the reality of where

we are and how we got there and when you mention congressman, the straw poll this weekend and now the ken try of rick perry, i'm hearing things from them that are hauntingly similar to the unreality of george bush that put us in this mess in first place. >> look, when bush walked out of the white house, he left -- we lost 8 million jobs. we are losing 800,000 jobs a month. last month, 157 jobs, not enough, he need to do more. but this republican party, they voted against unemployment compensation. they voted against help for people facing foreclosure. look what president has done. we have a 44-month low now and mortgage foreclosures. 2 million jobs created in the private sector. we've had a 23-month increase of manufacturing jobs and a country where republicans wrote off manufacturing, saying we never were going to make anything again. the president brought manufacturing back. he is fighting an uphill fight,

but he's winning. >> the president is going to speak. he is speaking now in iowa. seems like every time i have you on, the president speaks live. you know when to come on. let's listen to a few minutes of the president at town hall in iowa. >> a great friend of mine, one of my earliest supporters, tom miller, is in the house. [ applause ] the mayor of decorah is here. give him a big round ever applause. you may remember this guy, he did a great job in iowa, he is now one of the finest secretaries ever agriculture we ever had, bill is in house. >> while we are waiting for the president to get into the meat of his discussion, how likely is it to get any of the job initiatives the president is talking about, to get through the congress? the problem is, can we get a jobs bill through to alleviate the pain of the american people

and deal with the reality on the ground? >> well, there is nothing like an election to focus politicians minds. you might recall when we have president clinton and republican congress, eventually they decided that something needed to get done. the republican congress has the worst record ever. i mean, almost nothing has past in the eight months, let alone -- other than naming a post office, the congress has done absolutely nothing. >> just one second. let's hear some of the president's remarks. >> -- since the great depression, dating back to 2007, 2008, but what i said earlier today, when way is in cannon falls, is something i believe with every fiber of my being. and that is, that there is not a country on earth that would not be willing to trade places with the united states of america. [ applause ] we've got the best universities.

we've got the best entrepreneurs. we've got the best scientists. we've got the best market system. the most dynamic in the world. and so, as tough as things are, we, all of us, are incredibly blessed to have been born in the united states of america. [ applause ] and that's why by continue to attract people from all around the world who see us as a beacon of hope. but having said that, we have to acknowledge that we have some big challenges. some of the challenges are not of our own making. we had reversed the recession. avoided depression. got the economy moving again. created 2 million private sectors jobs over the last 17 months. but over the last six months,

we've had a run of bad luck. some things that we could not control. we have an arab spring that promises democracy and potentially a growth of human rights throughout the middle east, but it also caused high gas prices that put a lot of crimp on a lot of families, just as they were trying to dig themselves out from the recession. then a tsunami in japan disrupt rupt disrupted supply chains around the world. then in europe, there are challenges around the sovereign debt there, and that has made businesses hesitant and some of the effects of europe lapped on to our shores. all of those things have been head winds for our economy. now those are things that we can't completely control. the question is, how do we manage these challenging times and do the right things when it

comes to those things that we can control? see, the problem we have is not with our country. the problem is that our politics is broken. [ applause ] the problem is that we've got the kind of partisan brinksmanship that is willing to put party ahead of country. that that's more interested in seeing their political opponents lose than seeing the country win. and nowhere was that more evident than the most recent debt ceiling debacle. the fact of the matter is, that our debt and deficits are manageable if we make some

intelligent choices. and make sure that they are shared choices as well as shared opportunities. and had we made some descent decisions over just the last two, three months, had we been willing to seize the opportunity that was before us, then there is no reason why we today go through this downgrade. because that did not have to do with economics, that had to do with politics. it was an assess many that our congress is not able to come up with the kinds of compromise tlaes move this country forward. i don't know about you, but i'm pretty frustrated about that. [ applause ] i am pretty frustrate bed that, because given the challenges we face, we don't have time to play games.

there are a lot of folks, a lot of our neighbors, a lost our friends, who have been out of work too long. we've got too many small businesses that are struggling. i see a lot of young people this the audience here today and they are thinking about, what are their prospects for the future. graduating from college knowing they've got a lot of debt. needing to find a job. they don't have patience for the kind of shenanigans we've been seeing on capitol hill. they understand that now is the time for all of us to pull together and do what it takes to grow the economy and put people back to work. now, the good news is, there are things we could be doing right now. would make a difference for our economy. back december, when some of my folks on the other side of the aisle were more willing to

compromise, we were able to put a package together that cut taxes for families by an average of $1,000. what i said, is let's continue this payroll tax cut into next year so as the economy is strengthening ordinary families who are still digging themselves out of credit card debt or seeing their homes under water, they have more purchasing power. that will be good for small businesses and large businesses and they will hire. we could right now say we are going to go ahead and renew that tax cut. that would be good for the american people and good for the economy. there's no reason to wait. there is no reason for us to wait, putting construction workers back to work all across the country. nobody took a bigger hit than those who are involved in the housing boom, when the boom went bust. so why don't we put them to work right now rebuilding roads and bridges and our schools. all across america. [ applause ] mrs. a proposal in congress

right now, congress should pass it. and get it done. there's no reason why we shouldn't be helping our small businesses and start up businesses. we have passed 16 tax cuts for small businesses. and right now we've got a bill pending that is called the american invents bill. it basically reforms our patent system so if someone's got a creative idea, they can turn it into a business right away without rhett tape, without bureaucracy. that's who we are, a nation of inventors. this traditionally is bipartisan. now now, we got pending trade legislation. tom and i were talking on the way over, on the bus here, and the truth of the matter is that the agricultural section of

america, corner stone states like iowa, is doing very well. but we could be doing more. my general attitude is why don't we want to open markets so the heartland of america is making its way there, but also manufacturing is making its way there. look, we've got a whole bunch of kias and hyundais here in the united states of america on our roads. that's fine and good. but i want some chryslers and some gms and fords on the roads of south korea as well. we should get those trade deals done. [ applause ] so, there are a whole host of ideas. that we could be implementing right now that traditionally have had bipartisan support. the only thing that is preventing us from passing it,

is that there are some folks in congress, who think that doing something in cooperation with me, or this white house, that that somehow is bad politics. you know what, you guys didn't send us there to think about our jobs. you sent us there to think about your jobs. and your future. now, we do have to be thinking about how we invest in education and how we invest in infrastructure and how we invest in basic research. but still do it while the government is living with -- and neither party is blameless on this. the truth is, we add balanced budge net 2000. last time we had a democratic president. what we ended up doing was we

had two wars he we didn't pay for. a prescription drug plan we didn't pay for. two tax cuts that we did not pay for. and the result was, a burgeoning debt. then what ended up happening was because of the recession and lack of regulation on wall street, this wrenching recession meant less tax revenues coming in and more going out because we were providing help it states to make sure that teachers and police officers and firefighters weren't laid off. and it make sure that we could help small businesses and put people back to work. so we've got a genuine problem with deficits and debt. but here again is the good news -- if everybody is willing to make some modest sacrifices, this problem, he can could solve. we could solve it tomorrow. we could solve it next week, if the speaker of the house had taken the bargain that he and i were talking about, we would have had it solved last month.

and we would not have gone through everything that we went through. over the last several weeks. [ applause ] but it does require compromise and it requires some balance. warren buffett had an article published today in which he said, stop coddling billionai billionaires. [ applause ] he pointed out that, i think, he made about 36 million on income. it was i guess an off year for him. but he pointed out that he paid an effective rate of 17% when it came to taxes. which meant that he paid a lower tax rate than anybody else in his office, including his secretary. because most of his income came in the form of capitol gains.

and he made a simple point. he said, look, nobody's income has gone up faster than the top 1%. in fact, nobody's got gone up faster than 1/10 of 1%. there is nothing wrong when it comes to closing our deficit and managing our debt to say that we should ask a little bit of help from anybody. i don't want a tax cut if if t means that senior zints have to pay an extra doctor 6,000 a year for medicare. that's not fair. and that's not right. [ applause ] i think it makes sense for us to say, you know what, let's close some loop holes that only oil and gas companies are able to take advantage of to make sure that we don't have to cut back on pel grants for students who are trying to go to college and get a better education. [ applause ] now that doesn't mean that we defend every single government

program. everybody's got to make sacrifices. there are programs that aren't working well. sometimes there are those in my party who will defend everything. even if it's not working. well, we do have to make some cuts. on things that we don't need. and that allows us to invest in the things that we do. but there's got to be balance. and there's got to be fairness. that's not just my view. the majority of republicans agree with that view bp although, i have to tell you, when i saw the other day, my friends in the republican presidential primary, they were asked, would you take a deal in which for every one dollar of tax increases we cut $10 in government spending? 10-1 ratio. and nobody was willing to take that deal.

now what that tells me is, you've gotten to the point of where you are just thinking about politics and not common sense. have you to be willing to compromise in order to move the country forward. so here's the upshot. we do have real challenges. we are going to have to make some tough decisions. and i know that during the two and a half years i've been president, we've got through a lot of ups and downs and a lot of tough times. and our job is not finished until every single american who is looking for a job can find a job. and until we have fixed the problems that caused me to run for president in the first place, so that we are growing a middle class and people have basic security and they know if they are following the rules, if they are working hard and looking after their families and their responsibilities, that they have a clans at the american dream. you guys are meeting their responsibilities.

you're meeting your responsibilities. you're working hard. and if you've gotten laid off and you don't have a job, you are out there looking for a job. you are looking a after your family and tightening a belt but you are still making investments your kids with their future. europe rating with common sense. and you're donating time at your church. food pantry or little league. well, if you are meeting your responsibilities, the least can you ask is your representatives meeting this. and so, i understand after this last mid term, you voted for divided government. but you didn't vote for disfunctional government. you didn't vote for a broken government. that can't make any decisions.

can't move the country forward at all. that's not what you voted for. and so, you know, some people have been saying, well, mr. president, why don't you call congress back for a special session? and what i've said is, the last thing the people need for confidence right now, is to watch folks on capitol hill arguing all over again. what they need is do is come to decohah, or go to cannon falls or meet with constituent back home and understand that people are sick and tired of the norn sense and political games and hopefully when they come back in september, they will have a wakeup tall kaul that says, we need to move the country forward. you've got to start focusing on doing the people's business, that's what everybody's expecting. i want you to help hold all of us accountable, me included. i am enlisting you in this

fight. because if you are -- if you're making your voices heard, if you're letting people know that enough is enough, it is time to move forward. it is time for us to win the future. if your voices are heard, then sooner or later these guys have to pay attention. if they aren't pay attention then they won't be in office. and we val new congress in there that will pay attention to what is going on all across america. i'm confident in the power of your voice. i'm confident in your values. thoisz those are the values that we share. i don't care whether you are democrat, republican or independent. all of us here are patriots and everybody cares about our country and puts it first. and if we can have that kind of politics, then nothing can stop us. thank you very much, everybody. god bless you. [ cheers and applause ]

>> thank you. snez president barack obama in decorah, iowa, speak at a town hall. he talked about a lot. he talked direct. he was very passionate and fired up, talking about infrastructure. he talked about job creation. talked about education. can he get any of this through congress? he also talked a lot about broken government. how do we get anything through your colleagues? >> they had the national extension program there, he keynoted it. working all over the country working with communities. what president is do doing is talking about what the role of government really plays in creating jobs. can we get stuff through congress? yes. as we get closer fot election, as the republican majority is

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welcome back. we've heard president obama live tonight from iowa. it comes as the top three republicans are set to battle it out. joining me now is perry bacon,

staff writer for the washington post. kneea malika henderson, political reporter for the washington post. she is with mitt romney in new hampshire. after traveling with rick perry yesterday. and bob franken, king of feature syndicated columnist and josh tra vino of texas public policy foundation. he covers rick perry. let me start with you, nia, and josh. president obama in a very forthright way went after his opponents. he referred to them, particularly when he said, just now in iowa, that all of them agreed that they would not take the 10-1 deal. which he felt was putting party and politics over the country. how do you think, after both of you have been around rick perry, and mitt romney who was on that stage making that commitment,

how do you think they will respond, nia? and how do you think the american public will see this that not only the president directly made this a campaign issue? >> i think you ceil that again and again. they will really frame that moment as the republican party pledging allegiance to the tea party. you saw from perry and romney it a certain extent, over these past couple of days frafling with him in new hampshire, you do see them talking about the tea party, lower taxes, lower government, regulation, lower litigation and lowering the bar for how people can sue people. so i think, you know, that's a recurring theme for this white house and for democrats to essentially say that the republican party is controlled and has been co-opted by the tea party. >> josh, doesn't that really also mean that when the president says this is more than reasonable, one as opposed to ten, they are putting politics

out there, even deeper than the tea party, but it seems that there's no level of compromise at all, that the average american has to wonder, isn't this what is good for the american people? isn't that a real problem? >> not really because the president of course today hit a new low in his approval rating of 39%. so the american people have already essentially decided that whatever hypothetical the president want to show up on or want to throw up, rather, is irrelevant. the president has been judged by the american people as a file you're and is going on with within the american party, within the party people on what to do with the crisis. right now the ideas is between the republican candidates. the president is showing up and doing his thing. but look, most americans, majority, don't approve of him and hasn't for weeks. that's just the case. >> bob, i love having josh on

because i just said to josh in my most passionate preacher voice, that don't we want to deal with what is good fosh for the countries and not politics and he went right to the politics. >> al, that is nowhere near your most passionate preacher voice. let's get that straight right now. what we are seeing with mr. obama is no more mr. nice guy through iowa. the problem, i believe, is that he is still being too nice. he is talking about the broken political system. at some point he has to take it to the republicans and say, they are the ones who are standing or prote protecting the rich. they are causing, by their hostage taking, this kind of thing. he has to kwif up give you on the idea that he can reason with an unreasonable op skigs. until he does that, he will keep sliding in the polls. >> let me ask perry this, perry,

reuters is reporting that the obama 5d administration is going to present a jobs bill in september. as congress comes back, they are going to lay out a jobs bill. if that is the case, and if that is done, what will that do politically to the republicans that seem to only be dealing with the politics of the matter and have not really dealt with what is going to provide jobs for this country. >> i guess, reverend, it depends on what is in the jobs bill. if the idea is the smaller things the president is talking about today, the republicans might agree to some of those. but a lot of those things won't create jobs. it f it is a broader stimulus bill, that might vee create jobs but the republicans won't agree to that. so it depends on what is in the bill but i expect a smaller more bill. there therefore it may not have

a big difference under the terms of the economy. >> now, josh, you are on the right had a very interesting weekend. ms. bachmann won the straw poll, ron paul came in very close second. uz have the entry of ms. perry and it seems like perry and bachmann are going to have a fight over whose going to be the anti-romney. they both appeared at the same set last night. and i understand mr. perry grt got a better reception. he worked the tables. he shook hands with people. kind of folksy. while ms. bachmann sat in her tour bus and waited like a superstar to emerge when it was right before the time to speak. so what's going to happen in your republican fight for whose the anti-rom flee? >> look, i think you know, that that politico story you are talking to, drew a stark contrast to the styles of

bachmann and perry. and i think, perry bacon, i saw you in south caroline why at the rick perry announcement. you can back this up or disagree as you winner. those of us who have seen perry in person knows that he is dead on. he is a veteran campaigner. extremely accomplished. works a room like nobody else. frankly, given that his reelection was last year, that campaign never stopped in many different ways. some of his team went to newt's team and came back but it is a well-honed machine on the rick perry side. >> josh, what about contrasting that to mitt romney? you have covered both. >> sure. >> are you saying mitt romney doesn't know how to work the room and that he doesn't like your fire? and that he's in real trouble here? >> i got to tell you, there are intangibles in politics as well, you know. but when it comes down to the, and i'm weary of using this word, but authenticity test,

perry has it more than rom nooe and i think he wins that night. >> there you got it, bob, josh just gave meed a line. josh calls mitt romney, inauthentic. i think that probably nothing better could happen to president obama than to have rick perry with his texas miracle, as more after mirage. and holding the records on execution. i usually wait for december for christmas gifts. but i'll take one in november of next year because rick perry against obama. >> it brings up that old show business adage, this is a variation on it, that a key in politics is authenticity. and if you can fake that, you've got it made. and rick perry is really good at dropping his gs. the problem mitt romney has, he never dropped a gs in his life at the end of the sentence. so that's the kind of thing we are talking about here. perry is the master at working a room and rom flee is still

learning. i think that's whatter with talking about. >> go ahead. >> romney will try to come in here and really make the case that really what matters here is his private sector experience. he spent 15 years at bane capitol. that's why he got his fortune of about $250 million. >> i think he can make a case that fired more people that rick perry didn't get employed in texas. i think they could compete for who could be the worst. i don't know which -- josh probably know chess one is worse. but i think it would be interesting, nia. the problem i think that perry has, is as americans here, the president and others make the chase it was bush that put us in this mess. it is going to be hard to convince us to go right back to texas. to another texas governor. he may be able to o work a room. but can he work 50 state on that one? we'll see, nia. >> thank you reverend sharpton. >> that was my cue. thank you, nia. thank you, bob. thank you, josh.

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we have to make sure that the promises we make in social security, medicaid and medicare are promises we can keep. one we can raise taxes on people. >> corporations -- >> corporations are people, my friend is. of course they are. everything corporations are, ultimately goes to people. where do you think it goes? >> that was mitt romney getting heckled at the iowa state fair last week. it seems that republicans are convinced corporations are people. and they are raising corporate taxes or closing corporate loop

holes would effect people's taxes. well, like i said last week, if that's the case, my dog is a bank. meet banksy. he is actually a republican pooch. i want to show you all some pictures ever my weekend with banksy. we were out around the city. first, i took him to see the statue of liberty. banksy loves anything green and stands for american freedom. i tried to take bank ss sy on a walk but it was the wrong green a soy took him down to wall strooet to do his business and boy did he have fun. he made lots of friends with i goes on the street. we strolled up to wall street and banksy enjoyed how to and we made a stop to see his favorite baseball team, the

mets. banksy loves citifield. there wasn't an empty seat in the place. those people in the crowd are corporations. but one thing ways confused at, it doesn't seem that the police in new york understand that people are corporations. because you know, you have to use a pooper scoopener new york when your dog does their business. and they never made me take out my pooper scooper, even those banksc and all his friends were craping all over the people in town. thanks for watching, i'm al sharpton. "hardball" is next. the republicans shake and bake. let's play "hardball."