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we start with the political football playing out in washington. president obama venting to house speaker john boehner on when to hold that major jobs speech. the officials insist they got the okay to address officials next wednesday, the same day as the republican presidential debate. but after john boehner says no, the president will unveil his jobs plan on the same night as the first day of the nfl season. >> our intention was merely for the president to address the joint session of congress as soon as possible upon congress's return of their recess. our interest is in not having a political back and forth here at all. our interest is in the president speaking to the people, speaking to congress about the need to do things, to create jobs and get the economy going. nbc's mike viqueira is live on the north lawn for us this

morning. vick, does the white house really believe that anyone is buying that they didn't know what they're doing? >> there's a lot of disbelief about washington on both ends of capitol hill here. one thing is certain, nobody is looking good and the white house and the congress are encouraging people to sort of move on. this all is a prelude to the campaign season. start the dragnet music here. the anatomy of a kerfuffle. yesterday the chief of staff here, bill daley called john boehner, informed him that he would be getting a letter that would request next wednesday at 8:00, as you mentioned, that conflicts with the republican debate that conflicts with rick perry. the speaker's office insists that daley never got a go ahead

but he merely took it into consideration that you would consult the folks around the capit capitol. at 11:45, that request becomes public. at 12:30 or thereabouts, jay carney had a briefing. he calls the timing or the conflict coincidental. in spite of the congressional schedule saying wednesday was the best day, the house of representatives don't get back from their preliesh day aurl august recess until 6:30 that night. logistically boehner says it didn't work out. bottom line, another conflict, another night. we mentioned that nfl game, the word coming out of the white house now. they don't expect it to conflict with that broadcast, either, but the bottom line is, that speech is now likely to occur next thursday night, the eighth, instead of september 7th. >> appreciate that, victor. thank you. >> all right. wendy sherwood is from brown

university. wendy, speaker bayner has declined all four state invitations from the president at a critical point. then, of course, there's what happened yesterday. how much of this obama/boehner back and forth is political gainsmanship and how much of this is just old fashioned disrespect? >> i think it's really more disrespect. and the problem is that it's not just about president obama personally. this is about the president's speech. america needs a strong president. you may not like the policy. liberals didn't like push, conservatives didn't like obama. nevertheless, they need to be strong enough to counteract congress. you need to have a president that fights for something. it may seem stupid and small, but it's a series of caves by the president. if he'll cave on something

small, he'll likely cave on something big opinion now congress is threatening to repeal regulations that the executive branch has issued. this is about protect of the power of the presidency much more than the night of a speech. but boehner treated i like a guillotine. i can't make it wednesday, how about thursday? >> whomever you choose to blame, isn't this emblemattic of the kind of junk that the average american is sick of? >> absolutely. it's very telling that the speech would be given now on the first night of a football game, right? sports analogies. i think that the american voters don't care when or where the speech is. they just want to know what the government will do to help them find jobs. i think both boehner and obama are losing sight of that. i think the president should leave d.c., not give it before congress, pick a venue somewhere in the country where people are hurting, give a speech in a big

stadium where he's very good and tell america, this is what i'm going to do. i care about america. i'm not stuck in d.c. i'm going to do it for you. and i think that -- if i were the president, i'd forget the whole thing. >> before i get off the phone with you, a point of poll which came out today, all-time approval low, a more than six in ten say they do not like president obama's handling of the economy specifically, but 69% still like him as a person. if so many are saying, hey, you know, i still like barack obama, but i don't think he's doing a very good job, can he still win next year? >> he can still win, but i mean, when is he going to wake up and listen to what the people want from him? all they want is leadership, you know, show them you're trying. they like the guy. they think he's well intentioned. but he doesn't seem to want to fight. he seems to want to run away.

i think eventually the likability factor will erode. they want to see you give it everything you've got and they're not seeing it yet from this president. >> wendy, as always, thank you so much. appreciate your time this morning. 4/. approximated has to connect with the business community hopefully enticing ceos to invest a sizable chunk of the trillions in cash they're sitting on. robert johnson is the founder of ceo of oil companies. bob johnson, thank you for joining me this morning. i appreciate you. >> thank you for inviting me. >> thank you very much for that. first of all, let me get your reaction between the president and the speakers. do business leaders see this bickering and grow more frustrated? >> absolutely. we think this is childish on both parties' party and until this silliness goes away, the

business community does not have any confidence in the government to do anything. >> specifically, is specifically here, what are the one or two initiatives that president obama needs to unveil next week to make ceos like yourself more confident, more willing to invest in higher initial terms? >> craig, it has to be comprehensive. there's a distinction in the minds between ceos between work and job. a job can't be created in a vacuum. it has to be created as part of an overall economic game plan to get the company -- get the country growing. it's going to be a focus on tax reform, it has to be on regulatory reform, trade and investment and building consumer confidence. so it has to be comprehensive. you can put people to work, but that's not a job. a job is mobility, it's sustainability, it's increasing productivity for the country as well as creating a sense of security for the employee.

so jobs are difference from putting people to work and i think the white house needs to understand that and look at this in terms of the wholistic approach to creating a growing, vibrant economy. >> bob, really quickly here, you mentioned regulatory reform specifically. one of the two reasons that most people, aside from the lagging economy, regulation or overregulation and also uncertainty. how legitimate are those reasons from a ceo? >> they're very legitimate. ceos can program into their business strategy and investment model and the employment model what the cost of certain regulations are going to be .how it affects the bottom line and their growth pattern. what they can't do is deal with regulations and regulatory uncertainty that causes them to be very concerned about the future economics of the country. they tend to sit on cash or keep cash offshore.

and if the penalty looks at getting the economy moving, putting people back to work in a wholistic program, then i think he's going to have the business community saying amen to that. >> bob johnson, det founder, thank you very much. appreciate you. >> bye-bye now. >> september 8th, that's the date we will finally get the details of the president's jobs plan in a joint session of congress. watch complete coverage right here on msnbc. starting next tuesday on september 6th, at this hour, we're going to kick off our week long series, called hiring now. where are the jobs, what are ceos looking for. what do we need to hear from the president? that is next week, 11:00 a.m. eastern right here on msnbc. breaking news we're following right now, we are keeping our eyes and our ears on our arab broadcaster. they're playing a statement by libya's moammar gadhafi.

gadhafi is calling on libya's tribes to resist and ambush the rebels and is accusing the rebels of hiring mercenaries and are using the media to their early advantage. this would be the fourth address by gadhafi since he fled tripoli. that's according to al arabdia. when we hear from them, we will, of course, pass it on to you. the passaic river is receding now. president obama is scheduled to visit the state this weekend. he signed a major disaster declaration yesterday for part of the state, allowing businesses and homeowners affected by the storm to seek disaster aid. with fema running out of money, members of congress proposing budget cuts to offset the cost, some members are. but the new jersey governor says people in his state can't wait for congress to figure it out. >> figure out budget cuts, that's fine. you're going to turn it into a

fiasco where are like that debt limit thing and you expect the citizens of my state to wait? they're not going to wait and i'm going to fight to make sure they don't. >> michelle franzen is live for us. michelle. >> a lot of people here in paterson would agree. it's expected to stay above flood stage, at least three tomorrow and much of this water will not recede probably through the weekend here for these communities. still getting all the raging waters from the passaic. this town, an old mill town about 25 miles outside of new york city, about 6,000 people were affected in all. many of them are used to flooding in this area, but this storm took them by surprise.

>> at first, i thought it was a joke. we have a lot of floods. but when it started flowing up and coming over the building, i've never seen nothing like that. it's not something we can't handle. >> ask that's a local bridge behind me, but the majority of bridges leading to some of these flooded neighborhoods are still blocked off by a significant amount of water, craig. >> nbc's michelle franzen in paterson for us today. thank you, michelle. hurricane katia gaining strength in the middle of the atlantic. let's take a look at some of the images of katia. check it out. forecasters say the cat 1 storm may grow into a major hurricane as early as this week. carl parker is tracking katia from the weather channel's headquarters for us in atlanta today. carl. >> it looks like the storm is probably going to stay away from the u.s. coast, though we can't completely rule out impacts here. let's take a look at the latest on the storm right now. it is moving off to the west at

18 miles per hour. likely to become a category two or three hurricane here in the next few days as it passes to the north of the leeward islands. a computer is still turning the system around. there appears to be less of a chance it will hit the u.s. coast, but we can't rule that out completely. i also want to tell you about another system, a developing area of low pressure here in the gulf of mexico. a huge area of convection with this. it's been undergoing sheer, having a hard time of organizing. but it will throw wave after wave into the deep coast. we're talking about 5 to 10 inches of rain. you see there's a lot of uncertainty in the modeler here. we don't know exactly where it's going to go. we can tell you it's going to be very wet along the gulf coast and we may be looking at a depression or a storm in the next couple of days here. back to you. >> all right. tis the season. the weather channel's carl parker. carl, thank you. kids are learning the difference between tattle telling or legitimate gripes.

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kids going back to school in new jersey will be greeted by the toughest bullying laws in the nation. bullies can be suspended or expelled. some teachers and schoolboard members say it goes too far. the anti-bullying bill of rights was passed back in january partially to the suicide of

rutgers freshman tyler chlement. let's take a look at the details. anti-bullying specialist at each school. safety team at each school. investigation within one day of an incident and school classes on the difference between tattling and telling. does it go too far? >> the parts that go too far are the ones we haven't talked about. anybody serving as a schoolboard, as a volunteer, if you're a teacher or a custodian and you might have heard about it and you haven't accounted on it, you might be sued. >> and t two camps, generally divided by those that do have kids and those that don't have kids. there is the argument that growing up, you want to have some conflict, but at the same

time, you don't want your daughter being kicked to the ground and having her tooth chipped. how do we strike the ground? >> bullying is when things have gone beyond the line and conflict and handling conflict and talking to each other and dealing with that is something our kids need to deal with. bullying is not allowed, disagreements are. >> cyber bullying is something that this is probably what a lot of folks think about these days when we talk about bullying. cyber bullying, more than half of kids are dealing with cyber bullying? >> we run stopcyberbullying.com, as well. >> when we use that term, what are we talking about here? >> using any digital device to hurt another kid. >> what we're seeing in new jersey, is this the begin ofg what we are going to see nationwide? in three or four years, will it

be something we don't talk about as much? >> i think it's time we do something. i think new jersey may be too tough and i'm speaking as a new jersey resident. but at stop cyber bullying, we have a $1 million tool kit free for schools that comes out in a few weeks. what's that again? >> stopcyberbullying.com. it's free. >> thank you so much. >> i appreciate it. it's an important issue. former vice president dick cheney talking 9/11, iraq, failed intelligence and regret and his most content yuns information yet. super mom, super charged, how seven mothers are changing the world with their entrepreneurial spirit. ♪ ♪ ♪

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i'm craig melvin, here is what is topping the news now. a massive repair effort is under way in vermont. emergency road access to all towns in vermont have been reestablished now. national guard helicopters are dropping supplies in mountain communities that still don't have electricity, phone service and limited transportation in or out. the officials say the storm's impact has forced about 120 schools to delay openings. meanwhile, in the southern u.s., dozens of homes are gone and more are threatened as firefighters strive to put outraging wildfires in texas and oklahoma. those fire res expected to run out of fuel soon, offering some much needed relief to folks there. the blaze so far has scorched

more than 6,200 acres. and for the first time since the 2003 invasion of iraq, one month has passed without a single u.s. service member dying. this comes after an iraqi crackdown on iranian backed see use it militia. the milestone is especially notable since it comes after 14 troops were killed in july, making that the deadliest month for americans in three years in iraq. venus williams has pulled out of the u.s. open. williams announced that she was recently diagnosed with an autoimmune deed called chogrin syndrome. williams has won seven grabbed slam titles, including two u.s. open titles. and a mistake or publicity stunt? apple is facing yet another case of a lost phone, an iphone prototype. a ployee of the country reportedly left his iphone in a

tequila bar in san francisco. apple had been searching for that phone since it went missing in july. interesting enough, the same thing happened last year when an employee left a prototype of the iphone 4 behind the bar. the company got that one back, but not before the website released all the details about that new device. sure does seem like these apple employees are losing the apple prototypes at the bars a lot, doesn't it? let's see if we can get one past the defense.

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found in the case of iraq a situation where you had a state that had experimented with and produced and used weapons of mass destruction and had a relationship with an element of the terrorist community. and in a place where those two were likely to come together was iraq more than anyone else. we saw that as a significant threat. when we went in and we took down saddam hussein, several things happened. first of all, obviously, we eliminated any possibility that he was going to become a threat with that kind of technology in the future. it was also true that the intel was flawed. we did not find stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction. but i'll find that it's very clear that he had preserved and had the capacity to produce, he had the people and the technical know-how. he had defeat stocks and he had the intent once the sanctions were lifted to go back into the business again and complete --

or convinced all of his senior people. >> and the final iraq on the reported wmd programs, saddam hussein's regime had the capacity and could have established it within weeks. while the political fight plays out over the president's jobs address, jon huntsman is out with a plan of his own that he hopes will get people excited about his campaign. while finding research polls have pushed them to the back of the pack, huntsman weighed in on the back and forth between the president and boehner today. >> this is what people hate about politics. venues are venues and the president needs to find one where he can articulate positions. but for 2 1/2 years, it hasn't worked. >> we're bringing in director

mark murray. mark, let's go ahead and take a look at huntsman plan here. energy independence, free trade, can this attract the voters? >> it's plan he said he pretty much implemented as governor as utah and he pointed to statistics that there was a lot of influence in his state and there was a lot of economic growth throughout the country during that time. he said, look, you give me lower taxes, less regulation, what i applied to utah can work for the united states. his competitors are running for a republicanal nomination have similar things. muntsman's biggest problem right now is while he's for lower taxes, that in tone he is not a michele bachmann or rick perry

who is very confrontational with democrats and very confrontational with president obama. when you look at all of his positions, is it incorrect to say that they're moderate? compared to everyone in the republican field, he comes as kro as he's the moderate person. >> he's been in the news a lot lately, jon huntsman has. but mostly, there are some out there who have suggested that this run is merely a sort of get to know you between huntsman and prospective 2016 voters. >> sometimes mitt romney mass proven running for president twice boosts your name i.d. that has been one theory that people have had, if it didn't work out for jon huntsman in 2012, he could be a higher name identification for 2016 be.

but he's registering at 1% and 2% in national polls, he could somehow take new hampshire by storm and pull a big upset there. there is a lot of question right now that he's going to have to try and distinguish himself between the mitt romneys and the rick perries and one opportunity for him to do so is at our upcoming nbc political debate on september 7th. >> thanks, mark murray, appreciate that. that republican debate at the reagan library will only be here on msnbc, the place for politics wednesday, september 7th, 8:00 eastern. forbes out with its latest list, powerful women in business. not only with these women successful, but they rose to the top while raising children. take a look at the world's most powerful mompreneurs, tien na brown, diane von burstenburg,

j.k. ruling, as well, on that list. let's talk about this impressive list. i just mentioned a few of them. who else is on the list? >> you'll see an extraordinary diversity of women on this list. you mentioned women who started businesses here in the u.s., but you have share wong who started a technology company in asia. you have shang shang, a self-made billionaire. and china launching a company with her husband. and you also have gensick lang who created the company with her husband as an immigrant from south korea. living the american dream. >> in the meig zeeb, the writer says these entrepreneurs are women who, quote, brilliantly bucked stereotypes and made bank in the process. how did they do it? >> they did it like so many other women on our power of women's list. they did it through perseverance

and determination and as any entrepreneur knows, there's ups and downs, often far many more downs, and they were able to persevere and they were also able to do so while managing all the other demands in their life. what's even more interesting is that 90% of all the power women on the list had children. so this is a huge, huge change in years past. >> besides having children, were there other things that these women had in common? >> what's amazing is that they have very little in common outside of their drive and perseverance. each of these women, first of all, weren't even born in the u.s. four of them launched their empires in the u.s. three stayed in their home country. but also, it's across really diverse industries and some of them inherited wealth, some of them were born into it. others married into it and some came from nothing.

they also started their businesses at very different life stages. as mowers, some started their business without kids while others waited until their kids were fully grown to launch their new enterprises. >> and these women have to be a shining example to the sheered number of other entrepreneurs in this country. i was struck by the number of women that own businesses in this country right now. >> about 50% of all new businesses are started by women. that ratio changes when you look at bigger businesses scaling to multi million dollars. so these women are truly an exception. they've bucked trends and they've all taken unconventional paths to get there. even in our list, 2011 list of the world's billionaires, there are only 14 self-made entrepreneurs. another note, 12 of them also have children. >> laura for he or sheforbes, t

so much. >> great to talk to you. still to come, nearly a quarter of the countries in the major cities. how does that translate? first, though, the children whose fathers were taken from them on 9/11 before they were even born. their amazing stories and words on the other side of this break.

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many children come into the world unfortunately not knowing the love of a parent, but our next segment is about a group of kids whose experience with that loss is unlike any other. it's a tragic commonality born almost ten years ago on the heels of the most horrific and historic attack ever launched in this country. they are the children of 9/11

and they are the focus of a new cover story by the folks at "people" magazine. liz mcneal is a news editor. she joins me now. you look at this and you're struck by two things. first of all, ten years, it doesn't seem like it's been that long. secondly, how good all of these kids look, which brings in the inevitable question, are they doing as well as they appear to be doing? >> you know, they don't even know what to expect when we first started speaking with them. with all of them, there was always an element of sadness and an element of hope and they each found their own way of connecting with their dad. >> we don't obviously have enough time to look at all the kids on the issue. let's start with the cover. this is lauren mcintyre. she has a small picture of her father, donald.

she wears that pendant around her neck. how is she doing? >> lauren is a very outgoing little girl. she is very outgoing like her father, her mother says. she wears this pendant to keep her mother close to her. she remembers him every day. she always asks her mom, how come i don't have a dad as my other friend? but nine years later, she is an outgoing little girl. >> let's take a look at a young man, ronald lamb. san antonio texas, his father, u.s. army major, ronald milam died in the attack on the pentagon. he has a new baby brother. his mom says she never expected to have another child, but it turned out to be important for both of them. how so? >> well, his mother, jacqueline, said i'm a single mom, i'm going it alone. lo and behold, a couple years later, she meets a nice guy and

they have a child together. they said how wonderful it's been with two kids and i have a second chance again. >> and here is a look at one of the most remarkable. alexis margotta. she wrote her own account of her father, a new york city firefighter who died helping people escape from the towers. this statement jumped out at us. quote, i sometimes wish he wasn't so brave. i wonder how many of them say that? >> it was heartbreaking for us to hear her say that and it's followed by something sort of hopeful. she says when the sun shines, i feel like my father knows i need a nice day. with a lot of these kids, there was sadness and sometimes there was an element of hope that came out of this. it was incredibly moving to hear tr her. >> all mowers in this issue, all mowers have been chosen who lost

fathers. >> you know, there was really -- we just thought this was a nice way to sort of tie it together and they always had wonderful stories to tell and we hoped there was a message of hope in the end. >> ten-year anniversary, of course, coming up. a hard day for thousands of americans, especially these families, i would imagine, this dark and symbolic moment in national history. do these kids grasp what their fathers meant, not just for their families but the world? >> these are kids going into fifth grade. as one of the moms said, this is a story that happened before they were born. but some of them are starting to get a sense that they have a place in history. >> well, they look -- again, they look fantastic. how many kids are featured here? >> ten. >> ten kids featured, "people" magazine. when is this on stands? >> starting today. >> starting today.

liz mcneal, it is a fascinating read. thank you so much. appreciate your time. >> thanks. and a quick reminder, you can see these incredible pictures this week's issue on news stands right now. i want to take a quick moment to remind you tonight on msnbc rachel madbow and richard engle will look at how the entire country has changed since 9/11, what we've done since and how we are different. the first half of a two-part series, day of destruction, decade of war premiers tonight, 9:00 eastern, 8:00 central. that's not caused by a heart valve problem? are you taking warfarin to reduce your risk of stroke caused by a clot? you should know about pradaxa. an important study showed that pradaxa 150mg reduced stroke risk 35% more than warfarin. and with pradaxa, there's no need for those regular blood tests. pradaxa is progress. pradaxa can cause serious, sometimes fatal, bleeding. don't take pradaxa if you have abnormal bleeding,

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pivotal change in american demographics from the majority to the minority. new census figures show that minorities now top the populations in 22 of 100 u.s. metropolitan regions, including washington, d.c., new york, san diego, las vegas and memphis. that change is also reflected online. according to some new statistics, african-americans, latinos and women absolutely

rule social networks from facebook to twitter. msnbc contributor melissa harris perry is a professor of political science at tulane, also a columnist for "the nation" and spends a great deal of time working here at msnbc as well. >> and a lot of time on social media. >> i know. i know. i follow you. >> i am that demographic. >> here are the numbers just released by the pew research centers, internet and american life project. they look at 2,277 online adults who are social media users between the ages of 18 and 39. 65% of those adults use online media, but what's really amazing is when you break it down by specific ethnicity, african-americans at the top of the use scale, 69%. hispanics and latinos come in a close second at 66%. what do these numbers say? what do they represent? >> i think what they represent is a kind of entrepreneurship in our public discourse. so one way to think of this is that as these demographics are

changing in the country, as you have a more majority-minority population, then these voices that haven't had sort of the traditional routes into, for example, cable television news or radio, they use social media as a way to be entrepreneurial in news discussions, in arts and culture discussions. it's a way of being in control of one's own media sources. >> i would imagine there's also a certain appeal to the fact that, you know, that it's anonymous as well. >> well, i think what's beautiful about it is that it can be anonymous or it can be actually an opportunity to get your own personality out there. so people make different choices around it. some of it is mean-spirited, nasty, anonymous snipes but a lot of it is actually people who are branding themselves, who are trying to demonstrate that they can write a smart blog on a weekly basis or that they have intelligent insights about the american political system. again, no one is standing there with a microphone for them but they create their own megaphone

through social media platforms. >> the numbers also place an emphasis on how many older adults are using social media sites as well. when you look at the daily usage figures, this is a woman's game. take a look at it. 48% to 38%. i would say that 48% might even be a conservative estimate as well. what does that say? why does it seem as if so many more women are attracted to these sites than men? >> interestingly enough, i think it's in part because the lives particularly of working moms, as you were featuring earlier in that forbes list, as much as they can be very busy, they can sometimes also be quite socially isolating. you're driving your kid in the car to soccer practice and you've got to sit there for an hour during practice. that's a time to get on, kind of find out what people are doing around, stay connected. i think there's ways in which it actually helps to connect oftentimes working women and working moms. again, also, just the ability to have a voice when often for example in the corporate boardroom, you may be getting hushed and shushed but you can say what you want on twitter.

>> there's a breakdown of twitter usage in the study as well. you are very active on twitter. you tweet a lot. regardless of ethnicity, what's the overall gain for anybody who is tapped into these mediums? >> look, i think that there is obviously gain and loss. the loss of course is i suppose these are hours we could be spending doing things like reading or connecting with people face-to-face, but i do think the gain is that it can actually lead to the creation of certain kinds of relationships. i actually feel like i have not just twitter followers but twitter friends, people who are engaged in the sets of questions that i'm interested in, who cheer me on and critique me in ways that i think are very useful and which would be too much if we had full lifetime relationships. i couldn't be friends with thousands of people. but you can have 140 character relationships with lots of people. >> tulane professor melissa harris-perry. you probably picked up at least 15, 20 followers in our segment. >> thanks. >> thank you. time for the flipside. this is where we take a look behind the headlines.

according to the house historian, it's unprecedented for the speaker to publicly reject a president's request to address congress, but this is not the first time that john boehner has blown off a white house invite. mr. boehner has declined to attend all four of president obama's state dinners, a notable breach of washington etiquette. in fact, a former chief of staff for laura bush once claimed quote, you really have to be sick, dead or dying to regret a state dinner invitation. just days after assuming the speakership last winter, boehner turned down a ride to arizona on air force one for the memorial honoring the victims of the giffords shooting. he already had plans to attend a political event supporting his candidate for rnc chair. you might remember that back in november of 2010, the white house announced its first big bipartisan meeting with congressional leaders after the midterm elections, only to be told that boehner and mitch mcconnell had scheduling conflicts. that meeting was postponed until two weeks later.

so next time the president wants to get a little face time with the speaker, might want to schedule a round of golf. that is it. that is all. that does it for me today. veronica picks things up next. she will talk to the brothers who made that unbelievable hockey shot. but who actually scored? and will they get the money? this is msnbc. let me tell you about a very important phone call i made.

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