tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC September 5, 2011 9:00pm-10:00pm PDT
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welcome to the jungle! >> one inmate makes himself at home in very familiar surroundings. >> i've been in 12 times. >> but that doesn't keep him off the jail eets radar. >> why they would think me, i don't know. >> accused of possessing a huge child porn collection, another inmate attempts to salvage his relationship with his daughter and her children. >> so when am i going to get some pictures of the kids? >> approximately 10:00 inmate gomes urinated out of his cell door. >> and deputies take steps to contend with an inmate on a mission. >> they're going to transfer me out of here or they'll take me on one way or another. >> gomes, do you want to comply?
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there's a certain anonymity among people in big city, but boston is tight knit neighborhoods where it does seem like everyone knows your name. even behind the walls of the primary detention facility. suffolk county facility. >> within seven years of this job, numerous people i've known from childhood, from high school, just from the neighborhood itself. >> inmates too, often find themselves among friends and relatives. >> we're brothers. >> that's right. >> though not all suffolk county inmates are housed in the same facility. those charged with a crime and are awaiting trial are held at the jail until the resolution of their case. those who are convicted and receive sentences of two and a half years or less will usually
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serve their time four miles away at the house of correction. >> top of the world. 15 minutes. i told you. i told you. i was going to be knocking. >> it's a place sal guliano has become familiar with over the years. >> i keep a small circle. >> my buddy shane. minime. that's how boston's in the house over here. there's a character. what's up? >> these guys here, i grew up with them. they're from the same hometown. >> what's up guys? what you doing? >> i don't want to make any more friends. i have commitments. i've been on the street 12 times. the last court date i had 76 convictions.
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>> skekd second half of a two year sentence. i went home on probation with a ankle monitor. i cut it off. that was the first of my own. i assisted a few friends before. his latest conviction is for breaking and entering. he says the crime was committed to support his heroin habit. >> that's pretty much my history of all my crimes drug related. i don't commit crimes with violent natures. it's drugs and if i can find ways to support my habit without hurting anyone, i'll take a shot at it. >> he says even his childhood memories are tied to the drug trade. >> my father was an alleged cocaine dealer. i remember before i was ten years old bringing to school a home made drug thing. like the lines and cut up pepsi
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bottle. >> give these to phil. >> five years ago he was convicted of conspiracy to violate drug laws. >> welcome to the jungle! >> he served a three-year sentence in prison. >> that was for a charge i picked up here in this unit, as a matter of fact. cell 21. they alleged that i was smuggling drugs into the jail for profit. >> while he wouldn't discuss the specifics of the case, he said if drugs made it into the jail there would be a ready market. >> something that goes for $10 on the street goes for $100. pack of cigarettes go for $100. >> but these days he says he has a different set of concerns. >> how are you? >> just do your job, all right? >> you got it. >> a few years ago they caught me clean. >> you would have been in
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segregation a few years ago. you wouldn't have been cleaning. >> he says changes at the jail as well as the lack of loyalty among most inmates have forced him to try and do his time without problems. >> anymore there's no such thing as just keeping quiet. honest to god. to not face charges. i don't put myself in a situation where you have to worry about me telling or i got to worry about someone else telling on me. i just avoid it all completely. >> while he may have decided the best way to do time is to lay low, up in the disciplinary segregation unit, another inmate has chosen a different route. >> it's approximately 12:15 p.m. we're outside the 131 segregation unit where inmate ricardo gomes is being disruptive and refusing all lawful orders by the staff to cease his behavior.
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>> the sheriffs emergency response team has been called to the floor to deal with an inmate who has caused problems since early morning. >> approximately 10:00 to 10:30 inmate gomes urinated out of his cell. he was spoken to he was not to do that again. at approximately 12:00 again, he urinated out of his cell again. we're going to bring a restraint chair. >> inmate gomes, if you don't comply with me, you're going to be sprayed with chemical agent and placed in a restrain chair. now, i'm going to give you your final order to place your hands in. turn around and put your hands through the trap. >> why you doing this to me? >> turn around. >> anything you ask me to do. >> i'm not going to answer anything. it's your last chance. turn around and put your hands through or you're going to be --
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turn around and put your hands behind your back and put your hands through the trap or you're extracted from your cell. open two. >> the problem inmate is 50-year-old ricardo gomes. currently serving two consecutive two and a half years sentences for assault with a dangerous weapon. >> he has a major behavioral issue. if things don't happen fast enough, he gets riled up quickly and it's tough to get him to come down. and everything is a problem for him. nothing -- he doesn't b do anything wrong. we do everything wrong. there's major injustice. >> inmate gomes, i advise you to remain silent. >> no such thing of freedom of speech in jail? what happened to my miranda rights, my amendment rights? >> when inmates continually act out, the jail can secure them in a restraint chair for up to four hours.
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as deputies place gomes in the chair, they also fasten a mask around his face to prevent him from spitting. he is then secured at the waist, torso, and ankles. >> want to videotape the footage of urination outside of the door. as you just documented on camera, he -- we'll have to take him out of the chair eventually. he continues to make threats and act up and violate the rules. >> lieutenant has a problem with me. he's a [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> with gomes safely restrained, deputies conduct a search of his cell checking for weapons or other contraband. it isn't long before they find cause for concern. >> we discovered that inmate gomes has tied multiple shoe laces around the shower head.
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he's attempted on several instances to harm himself. >> deputies cut down the shoe laces and confiscate them. in the past gomes and other inmates have caused floods by damaging showers or sprinkler heads. >> he'll tie it through the head and yank the piece -- mechanism on the head that allows the sprinkler to activate. causes a lot of damage within the facility. >> i'm going to take your blood pressure. >> jail regulations say while an inmate is restrained he receive a medical evaluation every 15 minutes. >> stable. he may remain in the chair. >> until the next checkup, least placed back in his cell. >> gomes was secured placed back in the cell medically evaluated with no treatment provided at this time and the camera is going to be turned off. >> you put me in this chair for
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inside the disciplinary segregation unit of boston suffolk county jail's house of correction, inmate ricardo gomes has been causing problems since early morning. >> it's approximately 2:15 p.m. we're outside the 131 segregation unit where inmate gomes was placed in a restraint chair. >> after urinating on his door, threatening to throw feces on
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staff, and tampering with a shower head, he has been immobilized in a restraint chair. he's been there for almost two hours. >> i'm now going to go inside the housing unit and see if he's ready to follow the rules and regulations of the facility. if he's willing to do so, he'll be removed from the chair. >> will you comply? >> yes, sir, i will. i'll go further. i'm tired of getting in this chair. i'm tired of giving you a hard time. i said i'd stop this bull [ bleep ] i give my word. nobody in this jail can say ric gomes ever broke his word. >> this isn't perm. i know you might think it is. no one wanted to do this. but we need you to comply with the rules and regulations. >> can i get a drink of water too? >> we'll see what we can do. in addition to that, you understand that after being removed from the chair if you urinate out of your cell door,
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spit on the window, activate a sprinkler, attempt to harm yourself, you know where you're going to go. >> i'm all done. >> where are you going to go? back in the restraint chair. you're not going to do those things? >> no, sir. >> inside here i only fight with the correctional officers. they call it their house. it should be our house. we sleep here 24/7. back in the told days the inmates ran the jails. these new jails, it's their house. i disrespected their house. just by urinating on the floor and spitting on the glass window. >> gave you my word, lieutenant. >> let's go in there. >> inmate gomes, no moving your legs around. no kicking feet. you understand? yes or no, sir? >> yes, sir.
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>> all right. gomes was removed from the chair cooperatively. no treatment was provided. and now he's secured in cell two. camera turned off at this time. >> gomes' stay at the suffolk county jail began five months earlier after an altercation ended in an assault with a dangerous weapon which earned him his name. bricks. >> i carry a brick. a red brick. i usually get one of those put half in each pocket. >> all the cops know i carry them. all the police in boston, they know me. they pull up and say how you doing ricardo gomes? where's the rock? i show them the brick and say it's not a rock. it's a brick. >> but gomes says he uses his bricks to help others.
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like a vigilante. >> charles bronson is like my martyr. i love that guy. everybody's got their own territory on their streets. i got from copley square to lancedown street. if you are stealing somebody's bicycle, you're getting bricked. if you rob the kids or any people i see robbing any people, you get bricked. so the cops don't mind me being in the neighborhood because i stop a lot of the crime. >> but rather than a citizenship citation, gomes' latest brick assault resulted in two two and a half years sentences. since they must be served consecutively, he'll be in the house of correction for five years. he's intent on serving his time in a different facility. and despite his promise less than an hour earlier, he says he's willing to be a nuisance if it will help the transfer. >> i'm going to do my five years out of this jail. trust me.
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they're going to get sick of me popping their sprinklers. >> what do you popping the sprinklers? >> you tie a string in that hole. the water comes out and the alarms goes off. and you hear all over the prison. the water steady pouring out. i've never seen so much water come out of one sprinkler. you can fill up a cell in ten minutes. block the water from going out the door. ain't a bad idea either. >> he tends to feel that there's some major miscarriage of justice against him and he wants to get transferred to another facility where he's not going to go because he creates so many p problems. they're not going to take him as a transfer because of the way he acts. >> thank you, mr. gomes. >> i don't feel too good. >> i'm not doing five years here. that's the bottom line. they're going to transfer me out
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of here. or they'll take me on the bunny bag. one way or the other. coming up -- >> looking at a bunch of dirty pictures isn't the same as molesting a child. >> the alleged owner of one of the largest child porn collections ever confiscated settles in in the protective custody unit. [ tires screech ] [ crying ] [ applause ] [ laughs ] [ tires screech ] [ male announcer ] your life will have to flash by even faster. autodrive brakes on the cadillac srx activate after rain is detected to help improve braking performance. we don't just make luxury cars. we make cadillacs.
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at the suffolk county jail in boston, both men and women live in the house of correction. one of two facilities that comprise the jail system. they're housed on separate floors. but that doesn't stop them from finding ways to communicate. >> it's 192 and we get to talk to the guys downstairs. through the toilets. we get to -- we clean them out and yell through the pipes. so you can do it this way which people laugh it. >> what are you doing? >> i'm plunging the toilet with
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my ass. you can't talk unless there's clear. you've got to get all the water out. yo! say hi. >> hey! >> this is the only way they'll do an interview. >> life for most inmates at the suffolk county jail is anything but fun and games. inside the jail's street facility is a housing unit for those inmates whose charges have given them a reputation among other inmates. a reputation that could result in grave consequences. >> special housing unit of what we call the shoe is typically what people refer to as pc. protective custody unit. people who go there are those whose charges either make them very difficult to place in general population, often involve a sexual crime charge. that individual is generally not
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welcome in any housing block. >> these inmates often become targets in general population. where other inmates consider it a badge of honor to attack them. george ships has been in the special housing unit for ten months now. >> i am here for downloading child pornography on my computer. that's my charge. >> shipps who has pled not guilty to distribution of child pornography is in special housing because of notarity. >> there was a television on and i was on the tv. that's why i'm in the shoe. special housing unit. protective custody. >> according to news reports of his arrest, shipps allegedly had
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thousands of files of child pornography on his computer. authorities called it one of o the largest collections ever confiscated. >> i never thought i would be facing charges like this. i just thought it was harmless voyeurism. >> shipps does admit to having some on his computer. he says he stumbled it on a file sharing network. >> i would go through somebody's file and they would have a thousand files and i would just go and just click on all these files. and then as they downloaded i would view them. if they were my children, i would want to murder whoever would have done this to them. so i knew that it was wrong. but looking at a bunch of dirty pictures isn't the same as molesting a child.
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>> shipps blames his battles with drugs and alcoholism for his prior convictions. he says child porn became another addiction. >> the addictive part was let's see what we can find that we're not supposed to look at. that's where the addiction part came in, the thrill part. i'm not supposed to have this so let me get it because you said i can't have it. so there must be some reason why. so then i need to see it. >> but it wasn't just downloading child pornography that got him into trouble. he's also accused of distributing. something he blames on not understanding how file sharing works. >> once you have it on your computer, somebody can come along and download it from your computer. >> if he is convicted, he could face up to ten years or more in prison. >> i didn't take any of these pictures or anything like that. i didn't assault anybody. if i had a camera and i was
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going around taking pictures of children or molesting children or something like that, then absolutely. but i didn't do that. >> while shipps' case moves through the courts, he'll remain in protective custody. >> i'd rather be out there. i watch the traffic and imagine if it's somebody i know or if it's friends or family going to visit other friends and family. coming up -- >> hi, how are you? >> george shipps receives a visit from his daughter. and ricardo gomes breaks a promise. >> he's loading up on urine so he can throw it at someone. >> you know who that was for. le? what if we turned trash into surfboards? whatever your what if is, the new sprint biz 360
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hurricane katia picked up strength overnight. it's now a category 4 storm with sustained winds around 140 miles an hour. meanwhile, in texas fire crews are battling more than 60 fast-moving wildfires that forced thousands of evacuations and damaged or destroyed 500 homes resulting in at least two deaths. now we'll send you back to "lockup." at boston suffolk county jail, some inmates are better than known to staff than others. mainly due to their many stays here. >> boston, baby! b-town boys! >> sal giuliano who is finishing up a year-long sentence for a
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probation violation is here for the 12th time. it's a chance to catch up with buddies from his neighborhood. >> east boston, baby. east boston. stay golden. [ bleep ] [ bleep ]. >> how i grew up, just loyalty was a big i think the. friendship was a big thing. just don't find too many people who understand them words, friendship. friendship to me is i do for others, those who are my friends, i do before i do things for myself. >> there's six of us. you come in with one coffee. all right. i'll remember that. >> i didn't get it this week. >> you hungry? >> there we go. what do you want, fishes kid? >> that's what happens. >> who's going to take that. but don't ask for it back later. all right. when the camera leaves don't ask
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for it back. >> catch a lot of rack. we laugh, we joke. we hang out with each other. you become close. >> you have the zip code on your body. >> because if i o.d., how i get home? that's the truth. i'm from east boston. just throw me in a box send me on my way. >> one of giuliano's last stays here resulted in another conviction for drugs in the jail. he says this time they have a new attitude. he holds an inmate job as a runner cleaning housing units, and helping with meal and lau laundry deliveries. >> my little office here. this is all new to me. cleaning. staying out of trouble. trying to anyway. >> it wasn't easy. sal wasn't easy over the years. i guess you could call him a problem child for awhile. >> deputy busa has worked at the
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suffolk county jail almost as long as giuliano has been frequenting it. >> he was always fighting disrupting units. he'd leave segregation, come back to population and hour later go back to segregation. >> that was me. >> on the ninth floor, the heroin. you were the one passing through the door. pass it from the eighth to the ninth. >> i was there. those were the days. big change in this jail since then. now you're lucky if you're getting a tylenol. now big brother is watching 24 hours a day. can't make no moves. big brother, cameras all over the place. everywhere. >> while deputy busa says he appreciates giuliano's laid back attitude, he's not about to let his guard down. >> i know him for a long time. he'll steal your wallet and help look for it. be careful with him. >> me?
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what? i gave it back to the cop. i gave it back. inmate ricardo gomes is a familiar face among staff as well. >> i kept looking out my cell and seeing the clock on the wall. so this is what i wrote. i see the clock on the wall the rhyme is still ripping. >> he's also known on the streets of boston where he performs as a rapper some call the roxbury crack head. lieutenant maderos has spent more than his share of time with gomes over the past seven months. >> he tends to ramp himself up over a wide variety of things that seem minor to us but big to him. >> there's no such thing of freedom of speech in jail? >> he's already pulled several sprinkler heads and activated them. he's attempted several times to harm himself and he's been extremely verbally abusive and threatening to harm staff.
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>> and no sooner buzz night shift captain come on duty and see gomes reaching for the sprinkler head. >> what are you doing up there? >> i wasn't up there. >> you don't have anything in the cell do you? >> like what? >> searched it five times. still can't find nothing. everytime they leave i break out a bag of coffee or [ bleep ] or kool-aid and have a sip. they never get everything. i got [ bleep ] you ain't never find. >> want me to try? >> turn around. back up to the door. put your hands through. >> the captain assembles a team to inspect the sprinkler head and any other contra band. >> we're going to take that down. >> within seconds of removing gomes from his cell, the deputies unravel a string from around the sprinkler head. >> he tied a piece of a bed
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sheet up on the sprinkler head up there. and he's ready to pull the sprinkler head. so that's why we're going in there. we'll do a cell search, take it out, and check the cell for any other contraband or weapons or anything. >> because he's making threats to do inappropriate things as you know early on when i come on the shift, want to make sure there's nothing here that allows him to do that. like for instance, i'm looking down here beside this toilet and it seems to be a cup full of urine. we're going to have that taken out of here. the sprinkler head, he thinks that's all we're looking for. he'd load up on urine to throw it at somebody. >> you know who that was for. for lieutenant maderos. he singled me out. he's the only one that comes to my cell. he's the only one that writes me up. he's the only one that keeps hassling me. i was saving him a present. >> he made threats he was going
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to use it to throw in lieutenant's face when he comes around. that's a threat we take seriously. so he'll receive a disciplinary report for tying the string on the head and the cup of urine on the floor as well as making threats to the lieutenant. >> how much more time do you have? >> five years. five years in the mother [ bleep ] hell hole. no thanks. i'd rather do five years in a grave. >> for this incident, he could receive up to 30 more days in segregation. the he piles up reports, he could spend all of his sentence in segregation. >> this is what we come up with. we'll write a report on that. and hopefully we have no more problems with him for the rest of the evening. >> home sweet home, huh? coming up, reports of gambling and drugs trigger a massive search. and in the middle of it is a gloup of neighborhood buddies. ♪ the front-row tickets you never bought. the lucrative investment you never made.
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i might get it taken from me. >> this is what we call christmas. we be surviving off. >> according to the inmates at boston suffolk county jail, christmas doesn't come just once a year. it comes once a week. on wednesdays. when the canteens are delivered. >> only $80. you got to send me more money. >> for the ten months george shipps has been held in the product uf custody unit charged with distributing a huge amount of child pornography. canteen has been one of his few pleasures. >> that's the only thing to look forward to. trail mix, soups. i try to keep it very simple. i don't spend that much money. i don't want to call my children and say can you send me some money? >> shipps' five children are all grown. today one of them has come for a
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visit. >> i'm going to see my daughter who i haven't seen for over a year. i'm excited. >> it will be the first time shipps has seen his daughter christine since his arrest. >> not how you want to see your children. i would much rather be meeting in a restaurant for dinner. . but this will have to do for now. >> hi, how are you? >> christie has two young children and shipps' bigger concern is whether his charges might affect their relationship. >> it bothers me that she'll feel uncomfortable with me being around my grandchildren. it's something i worry about. i have to reassure everything i did was on the internet and that's all i want her to know. so she doesn't have to worry. >> lockers over there straight ahead. >> are you nervous to see him. >> yeah. it's been a long time. >> what kind of relationship do you have with your dad? >> he's my father.
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forgets my birthday. all the time. but i don't know his either. so i guess we're even. >> face me. left hand. when you go inside you're going -- >> he's been in jail a lot i don't remember how many times, but a lot. >> shipps' past convictions were for disorderly conduct and assault tied to his drug abuse. but christine says his current charges came as a surprise to her. >> no child wants to see it coming. i asked my mother if she saw it coming. she said no too. >> turn around. pull up your hair please. >> i think the mother part of me wants him locked away forever. but the daughter part of me wants to help him. me personally i know if i left my kids around him, they'd be fine. only because we were fine. but it's hard.
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to be a mother and a daughter in the same situation. >> face me. open your mouth. lift your tongue. okay put your shoes back on. >> inmates awaiting trial are normally not allowed contact visits. but due to filming restrictions in the visiting area, jail officials set up a temporary space that could accommodate our cameras. >> hello. >> hi. my favorite color. >> good to see you. >> you too. >> they have the one piece but that's for people that are in the hole. how are you doing? >> good. >> that's nice. >> how are you? >> terrible. so how are [ bleep ] and [ bleep ]? >> they're good. be three in march. >> march? >> march 10th. >> wow. is he in daycare now? >> yeah. >> when am i going to get some pictures of the kids?
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>> all my pictures are digital. all the pictures are digital. >> you don't have a computer? >> i do. i just haven't put the -- yeah. i haven't put the pictures on the camera to print them off yet. >> oh, yeah. >> mommy was the picture taker really. not me. >> well, you can have a disk printed out at a cvs. they'll print out a pictures for you. i know in the paper the charges that i'm here for. i want you to know all of those -- everything was on the internet. i just wanted you to know that. what i did, i know it was stupid first of all. i never should have been downloading all that material from the computer. but i just want you to know i would never, never in a million years do anything to harm my
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grandchildren. i love them very much. i just wanted you to know that not to worry about them being around me. that i'm some kind of weird guy. i mean, i just -- i love my grandchildren very much. i don't want to lose them. >> well, i think you need help. but i haven't changed. still never affected my childhood. >> well, thank you. i still love you. >> now when's my birthday? >> it is august 5th. >> how old will i be? >> oh, jeez. come on, now. you got me. jason is 21. 25, 24. no? oh, 26. >> close. >> shipps, time's up. >> all right. i will see you in a couple weeks. >> all right. i love you. >> i love you too.
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>> it was great. i had a wonderful time. it was good to see my daughter. >> i've never really heard him apologize for anything before. he drank a lot so he never owned up to stuff. when he did he was weird to me. like i heard him but didn't know what to make of what i heard him say. >> i don't know how she would react to my charges if somehow she was afraid to let me see my grandchildren. which would be worse than going to jail. my grandchildren don't have to know about this. >> but moments later another inmate reminded shipps that his position in the jailhouse hierarchy is known. >> you're a disgrace to pc. >> he doesn't know who i am. he's never seen me before. but because i have this uniform on, you're classed as a pedophile or a rapist.
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>> is it scary here? >> yes. that somebody's going to want to get in a fight with me not knowing me or why i'm here or anything like that. just by because i'm in the special housing unit. >> later the inmate who insulted shipps made his feelings clear. >> there's some reason why he's in there. he's a child molester or something like that. maybe killed a bay. stuff you don't do. >> and if shipps is eventually sent to prison, he could have more problems. >> there's no pc upstate if that's where he's going. he'll have to fight for his life. and he's no -- as i know, if i see him in another jail. word will get out. it's politics. coming up, a major shakedown for sal giuliano. and ricardo gomes makes another promise. >> i'm going to give you 60
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this could be anything from clean ee eer to tile cleaner. anything like this pour it out. >> every inmate at boston suffolk county jail knows that inspections for weapons or other contraband are a way of life. >> just doing they job. i can't complain. >> we do random cell searches every day throughout the facility. four times a year we'll do the entire unit. that's every inmate. and the unit gets searched as well as all of the cells. >> today 30 deputies are inspecting a housing unit of 180 inmates at the house of correction. >> we're bringing in two dogs today. one is a patrol dog.
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he's usually loud and gets the attention of the inmates. we mean business and they're going to follow the rules during this process. especially when we think weapons et cetera might be present. anything that makes them second guess their bad behavior. >> let's to lieutenant. >> how did you get all of these items? >> we came to an inmate that had a large amount of canteen items. they don't have currency so they're currency is canteen. >> five years ago during a prior stay here, sal giuliano was convicted of a more serious offense. attempting to smuggle drugs into the jail. though he claims he's cleaned up his act. reputations die hard. and today his cell is one of the first searched. >> they said they found drugs
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downstairs in the bathroom. they thought they were from me. in the bathroom downstairs that everyone has access to every day. but because i clean down there, they wanted to question me about it. i don't know what they were talking about though. >> giuliano's cell comes up clean. while the search turns up plenty of contraband items, no drugs or weapons were found if had the unit. >> it was a good opportunity to get property items they weren't authorized to have in their cells. >> you got a [ bleep ] illegal outlet. it's a fire hazard. >> giuliano says he wasn't surprised to be at the top of the deputies' list. >> they target the ones they think know something first. why they would think me, i don't know. before maybe they had a recent to. but i've been staying out of trouble. i don't know why they -- >> still, giuliano says he has no regrets about his past. >> i'm not ashamed of anything.
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i have the word on my back, shameless. i'm not ashamed of one thing. >> george shipps says he has plenty of regrets about downloading and according to him unknowingly distributing thousands of images of child pornography on his computer. he is innocent until proven guilty. but is as an accused sex offender, he must spend time in productive custody while awaiting trial. >> i would never in a million years hang around with anybody in here unless i live here with them. so you have to get along with people. that's just the way it is. if i were to see them on the street i might say hello. but i wouldn't say let's go have a beer. or let's go hang out. i wouldn't hang out with anybody in here. >> though he could face ten or more years in prison if convicted, shipps is hopeful that he will soon reach a plea bargain. >> what's a fair sentence for your crime, george? >> i think probation.
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i think i've been here now for well over a year. i think i've served enough time. i'm sure that i would be able to live my life without porn. just as i'm able to live my life without alcohol or drugs. sometimes you get a craving or an urge, but i don't see myself having a problem with relapsing when it comes to pornography. >> ricardo gomes is also dealing with a reputation issue. he recently had a cup of urine confiscated from his cell. he said he was going to throw it at a particular officer. but first he was going to make it a more sinister concoction. >> i was thinking of making a remedy from the old days. it's like skunk juice. it's made out of some nasty parts. urine, feces, peanut butter, and
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sour milk. and you mix it together until it's liquid. if you hit anybody with this, they ain't -- they're not going to want to go home. trust me. >> this is bricks. i didn't finish coloring it in. >> a few weeks later gomes managed to avoid any more disciplinary problems. >> i promised him i wouldn't act up. keeping my word because i want to get my transfer. i got 60 days quiet and i'm out of here. >> though officials deny reaching such an agreement, gomes says if he stays out of trouble for 60 days he could become eligible for transfer to a jail in another county. >> so i'm going to give them their 60 days. on day 61 i'm going to be awful upset if i'm still in here. i'll act up so bad that they'll have to ship me out. i'll do things nobody else will do. >> as i sit in front of this
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