of congress. good afternoon to you. i am dylan ratigan. in just three hours our president, barack obama, will walk into the house cham per to deliver his new jobs agenda. republicans are looking for areas of compromise. how work americans are looking for a job. and we're all looking for true reforms. reforms that will end the extraction of america and resume the value creation only possible with aligned interest in true capitalism. the same do nothing ideas and talking points we've heard since this president took office and the presidents before him are falling egregiously short. we all know it. we simply need to figure a way to demand our politicians respond to it. we start with republican senator tom coburn who will be in attendance in the chamber this weechk. heard any rhetorically on jobs over the past few weeks or anticipating anything tonight you can consider val ed or inspirational or actually

legitimately addressing any of the problems, senator? >> oh, i think i'm going to go into it with an absolutely open mind. we all know what the problems are. i'm not sure we all understand. we know whatted problems are. i don't think we understand the complexity of them. you know, we had a credit crisis. 23 you look at the history of those, seven, eight years before you work your way out of that, everything to get deleveraged. typical economic responses don't always have the same type of effect. i think you and i have talked about that before. i want to the have an open mind for the president. i think he wants what's best for us, and i hope we're going to hear inso vative innovative idea thasz will work and won't just throw money as a problem p. there's two other things we ought to consider. wasting $350 billion a year, and before we spend another $300 billion we ought to get rid of some of the waste and make sure that $300 billion he wants to spend is not borrowed against a couple of generations from now

or the next generation. >> yeah. >> and then the second thing is put met tricks on metrics on it it's working. >> going back to msnbc and even before, how any nation, not just america, how any nation can create jobs when capital is leaving the nation? i've got a trade deficit drawing $555 billion a year on average out of the country. half a trillion. $500 billion the year before last. grew at 13%. that's pretty much half china and half foreign oil. $100 billion offshore in corporate taxes that are not being repatriated. one example of 8 gillian, you have more than i how the tax code, and down $1 trillion domestically in the united

states, bank lending. hate to sound like a broken record, but how do you create jobs if you do not address trade, tax and bank policy? >> you don't create jobs unless you get capital formation that will be put at risk. it's just not going to happen. you don't have jobs unless capital's out there being put at risk. the question we ought to ask, why do we have a policy that says, banks loan your money to the fed and collect a margin on that, because that's a whole lot safer than loaning it to an entrepreneur or someone wanting to invest in the economy? that's something we ought to be working on and that's not partisan. dylan, we ought to be doing that. ought to be addressing the change on that. so that we have the incentive it's better to invest in the private sector. we've done a lot of things to hurt people wanting to do that. i think we overreached with the dodd frank bill. no question we needed to do some things but we've actually really hurt lending. >> stop there for a second. my issue with the dodd frank

bill and banking. i look at 2,200 pages, whatever the thing is. it's clear a banking system functions well when there are capital requirements. whether in switzerland, asia, south america, usaustralia or america. banking capital with a capital requirement function because of retained risk. banking system without capital requirements as we have in our swaps market, where the derivatives trade in a dark market, no collateral that undermine everything we do, how do i end up with a 2,200 page bill and do the same on trade or tax or anything that doesn't have a single one page that might fix it? >> why didn't we fix fannie mae and freddie mac? >> yes, right. >> same thing. because, i said it before. congress doesn't know what it's doing, because it won't do the hard work of oversight. we pass laws in response to emotional gut reactions but never think it through. don't put metrics in to see what the consequences are. why is it -- why would we want

our banks loans to the federal reserve instead of the -- >> going to the treasury. >> yeah. but then borrowing money from the federal reserve and making a mark on it. >> it's insane. i know. >> so what we've done is, we've changed the people's motivation. until we change that motivation and we create confidence again, and some certainty in the marketplace, people are going to continue to hold things close to the chest. you can't blame them. >> no. >> the other side of this, and, look, i'm just as hard on the bush administration. wasn't as bad, but it was bad in terms of regulation. we've had 5,000 pages, 160 billion dollars worth of cost in regulations, in the last 18 months alone. that is -- when i travel to oklahoma, oklahoma doesn't have a lot of great big businesses but they have a ton of small and medium sized businesses. all i heard, you got to get the government -- every week a new regulation that requires things.

our small banks in oklahoma can't afford to hire a compliance officer. they're going to be sold. you won't have locally small or medium size banks again and we're going to concentrate again. 40% of ceos on portugal, greece and ireland have been sold by american banks. >> you mean the -- the swaps? >> yes. they've been sold by american banks. >> yeah. >> so i don't know what their secondary trades are, but do we have exposure again? >> yeah. we all -- >> that's the question. >> as long as we have a private market for credit default swaps traded in a dark market without capital between banks, you're going to are a screwed up system. >> i agree. going to put the american taxpayer at risk. it needs to be a transparent equity market. >> exchange. you think we're all drunk. this is too simple. i want to switch to the other side. we talked with the dysfunction

on the capital side, the dysfunction of the capital market that is definitively preventing job creation. can't make jobs if there's not capital coming in. on the other side of it is the knowledge that 70%, or whatever the number is, a big number from a foundation, 60% 70% 80% of all new jobs come from not small medium or big businesses but new businesses. because new businesses hire lots of people because they're trying an experiment, trying something new. typically they're small, but there's also small businesses that don't hire anybody. the liquor store where i grew up hasn't hired somebody in 30 years. the fact of the matter is, you are trying to make it easier for new businesses to function with some patent legislation. i want you to tell you a little what you're doing with the patent legislation and offer more insight why congress does not do more with tax code and other things to ensent vise new business formation as opposed to

this game of big business verse small business. >> i'll be happy to. one point. there are lots of people who would go out today and start a new business if the mood in the country and the leadership demonstrated confidence and cent certainty. that's not just the president's fault. that's congress' -- it's washington's fault. the point is that's not happening because people can't see down the road. so we freed to give them some clarity and some confidence and start acting. part of that is this patent bill. do you realize almost $1 billion has been sucked out of the patent office in the last 15 years by the appropriators in congress to spend on other things. money people have paid. consequently, we have almost 1 million patents backed up in the pant office. it's 24 months before -- when you file before they're going to take the first look at your patent. well, that is an inintellectual property that we're teeing away. we're not taking care of things.

so this patent bill, one of the things i'm trying to do, get the money people pay for patents to be spent on evaluating their patents. it doesn't look like i'm going to win that. >> hang on a second. i want to understand this. you're saying if i'm an ain venter, pay a fee to the patent office that fee is harvested from the patent office and appropriated elsewhere while i wait two years for somebody no washington to look at my patent application? >> yes. $85 billion patented away from the fees paid from the patent -- and consequently, can't upgrade computer system, can't upgrade the systems to help the backlog. it's a mess and been going on under republican and democrat and not just the patent office,s that not the only one. the victim's compensation fund, the fec. remember from 2005 to 2007 we sucked a ton of money out of the sec when they were complaining they didn't have the funds to do what they needed to get done. >> i remember. i remember. >> so i mean, the problem is

congress, and i say that every time i'm on your show, but if people actually looked inside at how we don't do our job, how we're not honest with the american people about what we're doing, how we're trying to protect our own political careers and rather than do what is the best and right thing for our country, they need to change who's here. >> i actually would argue, we'll wrap this up. i think people more and more understand it and are at a loss what to do about it, which is for another day. over the past few years more and more are more acutely of the problem you identified and talking about it for some time, i have, obviously. people are figures out, so now what do we do? >> we have an earmark for a patent company in massachusetts. >> randomly? >> no. they lost a court battle, then won it and it's an ongoing court case but we've written something in for one company. it's an earmark. we shouldn't be doing it yet it's going to happen.

and there's nothing i can do to stop it. >> that's -- no one can stop any of this, it's quite clear, but it's also clear there's an ever-expanding group of which you are a clear leader that wants to figure out how to stop it and your courage and leadership in that regard is greatly appreciated and i think that's all -- what we're left with now is how to figure we'll do it and i appreciate your taking that time -- >> one last point. >> quick. >> senator feinstein, senator box e, senator corr byrne and demint are the authors putting the money back in the patent office. that is both ends of the spectrum. if that isn't a sweet spot on the right thing to do when you got boxer and feinstein, coburn and demint both co-sponsoring the same amendments if that doesn't pass, people aren't listening and not trying to do the right thing. >> no question about it. and you can rest assured all of the bright lights and muster will point at exactly that fact, with regardless of the outcome of this particular vote. again, the more all of us,

people like myself and others even understand how hay wire that sort of system is over time, some underlying pressure should do something. thank you for your efforts, senator. >> you're welcome. good to talk with you. >> you as well. coming up here, "d.r. show" world premiere. our friend with an inspiring look at millennials and how they remember the day our nation was impacted on 9/11. we'll play the full short film for the first time ever right here on the show at the end of the hour. first, more on jobs and the president's speech, and the candidate you didn't get to hear from at last night's deect. why he's mad as hell just like the rest of us. forget reading, writing and arithmetic. a new school offers a class on pot. how to pass, ahead. [ woman ] jogging stroller. you've been stuck in the garage

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now's the time to jump-start job creation, restart lending and invest in areas like health care, education and energy that will grow our economy even as we make hard choices to bring our deficit down. >> yes. yes! that's our president two years ago. hmm. as president obama prepares to address the nation again this evening on the same subject, we are still dealing with the same problems. in fact, a bill as you just heard sponsored by senators demint, coburn, feinstein and boxer to simply streamline the patent office so that the patents are processed in less than two years and the money used for patents -- not going to make it.

lending's down a trillion. trade deficit to half a trillion. you get my point. two years ago this president unveil add stimulus package that failed to create the 3.5 million jobs promised. tonight the white house they'll do 3 hadn't million that's paid for, but is it any more than putting money into a jie gantdic, or a bauct with a gigantic hole in it? the ongoing bank, trade and tax extraction is that whole? and both parties are in favor of keeping it open. our panel, republican strategist susan del percio. d.c. insider jimmy williams, and fire dog lakes jane hampshire joins us. you're lucky he is on remote. mr. williams. >> yes. >> where shall we begin? the president -- before we get to analytical, what can and w l will -- what will the president

say that -- and what do you think will be the most compelling aspect of it, if anything? >> well, i'm not sure what the president's going to say other than what's leaked to the press. is any of it brand new, spanking clean and shining? no. and will the republican obstructionism be anything new in clean and shine ji no. the same old 15i78 old. on tv a metric and measure how they go and they do whatever it is that the -- >> whatever the results are. >> right. i would like for congress to put a metric on itself. because i'm pretty damn sure the last two years they haven't passed anything that actually did anything to create any jobs. democrats are to blame. republicans are to blame and the american people are turned off. >> and at its core, susan, and i think the reason this show and other products out in the marketplace that are attempting this version of journalism,

which is to not play lefty-righty but look at actual issues and how the bought interests or manipulating and misaligning energy, health care, education, et cetera, et cetera. it's apparent to anybody that the tax code trade policy and banking system is not incentivizing and not creating investment in america, yet neither political party is prepared to engage these policies and truly i think it befuddles everybody. >> not befuddling from the political spectrum. all they want is get enough to be re-elected. especially going into september. the presidential elections. republicans and democrats are going to move as little as they have to do play it as safe as they can. >> now, jane when the game is and you watched last night's gop debate, you see how the game gets played. it's not look how i can solve the problem. the game is i don't suck as bad as that guy. >> evidently that is the game they're going to play and that is the challenge for mitt romney

is to convention the gop base that rick perry is not going to be electable in 2012. and that he is more electable. polling shows that he is, and so he was quick to jump on rick perry for his social security a ponzi scheme. not going to play well in florida with senior citizens. but he might also educate him as to the history of galileo. >> other than that, any system based on, if you think i'm bad, look at him, would you run your house like that? >> well it is tribalism. while both parties are intent on doing things that hurt the american public, they then are able to run on, don't you hate the other guy and what he stands for? the fact of the matter is both parties are going to get together and pass the free trade agreement soon. that agreement will not only increase the trade deficit but offshore -- we'll lose 160,000

jobs according to epi. you know, they seem to be united in supporting the interests of elites over the interest of the american public and then all they're left to is, well, don't we hate them a lot. >> but even who does jump up. the tea party -- back two years ago, before the -- >> a moment, hang on. maybe engaged from here. >> and they were. right. people were out there saying, yes, we want change and actually did affect change. affect elections and of course half the country doesn't like them for it. the fact is, groups -- that does happen and i think your type of journalism and people's frustration with the government not doing anything you're going to see it gethts moagain. >> more of it and formed around the banking crisis claimed to be in favor of capitalism. when bank reform came through, keep that illegal swaps market private with no capital, because -- >> they "became a party" i. know. please, don't become a party. with the president's big

speech, fan stpanel stays. we posted this for the day. learn more about what it would really tyke get people back to work on taxes and banking. we'd love to hear your ideaing on those issues. reach out to me on facebook and twitter. and was there anyone on stage last night stopping the money printing, jap the tax system, balance the budget and end the warp who's a republican? well, not in the debate. but we do have is a candidate here who joins the mega panel right after this. e afternoon tos with more pain and more pills. the evening guests arrive. back to sore knees. back to more pills. the day is done but hang on... her doctor recommended aleve. just 2 pills can keep arthritis pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is lara who chose 2 aleve and fewer pills for a day free of pain. and get the all day pain relief of aleve in liquid gels.

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our nominee has to be someone who isn't committed to abolishing social security but committed to saving saudi araoc security. >> it is a ponzi scheme to tell our young we are putting into a plan that's going to be there. >> all i'm saying, for the

republican party to win, we can't run from science i. won't rest until i appeal obama care. >> some of the many soundbites from last night's gop debate. one person we didn't hear from, our next guest. the former senator of any mexico and declared candidate. governor gary johnson. a pleasure to see you again. how are you today? >> mad as he wlchll. i don't want to take it anymore, dylan. >> before we get into the issues, at the end of the day, is there an opportunity for you? it's obviously you're being excluded from the traditional platform interviews. that must be immensely frustrating to be in your shoes but i wonder in the 21st century if there's an advantage where you are the one that the corporate media refuses to let into the room? is there a way that you can take this exclusion and use it to your benefit?

>> you know, i have to believe that, dylan, and my strategy is, i'm campaigning for president of the united states in new hampshire, where, you know what? i'm get my advance ticket to go and a pink slip. that's where i'm putting all my chips and resources v s i have. the debate last night. i don't know. coke or pepsi. it's a little more complex than that. i am promising the balance the federal budget, and i'm also wanting to scrap the entire federal tax system as it exists and replace it with a fair tax. for those watching, get it up on the internet, fair tax dot org, up, the proposal's been around for quite some time, but does away with the corporate income tax, which, in my opinion, would create tense of millions of jobs in a very short amount of time

in this country. does away with income tax and irs. it is what it is. fair. everybody's going to pay the fair tax. it's going to promote savings. >> susan,ings. >> hello, governor. question on housing. obviously the housing crisis is one of the biggest problems our country faces today, as a matter of fact. until we get over that there's little chance for recovery. do you see faine and freddie having a role in that? should they be hands off? how do you think that should be addressed? >> and bank reform in general, at the root of the distortion in housing? >> well, i think fannie and freddie -- the government should get out of fannie and freddie, recapitalize those institutions without the government involved, and i think the problem with the housing market was, hey, the government picked winners and losers. we never had a fire sale when it came to housing. i believe if we would have had a fire sale we would have established a market bottom and be ensgached in what would now be a real recovery as opposesed to, you know, gosh, how long's

it going to take to get out of where we're at, eight, ten years? i lap to be in the camp that believes we're on a verge of a monetary collapse, and that is because we are printing money. we need to stop printing money. we freed to balance the federal budget. >> go ahead, jimmy. >> governor, you missed an interesting debate with the largest applause coming from rick perry's declaration that everybody in the state from a petty criminal should be murdered in the electric chair. my question for you, though, is, as a serious candidate for president, what do you actually think the role of the -- not state and local. you're a former governor. the role of the federal government should chili l actuay be. be specific 24 a short amount of time. what should the government do for you on a federal level? >> not a -- >> should protect me against individual -- or groups that are going to do me harm. whether that's from a property

standpoint or physical harm and then when it comes to foreign government. look, we -- the government has an obligation to protect us against foreign aggression. those that would raise arms against this country, and you know, in my lifetime, i don't know if i've really seen that. we get involved militarily and i don't think there's a real threat to our national security. i'm talking about iraq. i would have never gone into iraq. afghanistan. i thought initially that being in afghanistan f six months, i think we wiped out al qaeda and that was ten years ago. libya? gee, whiz. we should not -- we should not be in libya. we should get out of libya. the countries in the middle east, qualifying for that same intervention. >> jane? >> governor, you know, it's clear that the republican party doesn't want you on stage embarrassing they're anointed

candidates with your positions. what do you think that you would say in the midst of a debate that reflects broadly popular positions that would cause embarrassment to the front-runners? >> well, you know, i am the only -- i'm the only candidate -- everyone last night was a social conservative. i'm not a social conservative. i think the majority of people in this country are not social conservatives. now, i don't want to take away from someone who holds those positions near and dear, but i think if republicans nominate a social conservative, i think if they nominate a candidate who's going to lead with being a socialist conservative i don't think republicans are going to win the race and i do think there's a lot at stake right now and what's at stake is the future of this country and the fact we don't have a collapse similar to russia, which would be the most recent example, i think, of a country, a big

country, monetary collapse. and it's interesting. the definition of conservatism in this country, gove governor, seems to have transitioned from capital requirements in the banking still. transparent and clearly understandable tax code that everybody has to abide by. those would strike me at conservative positions. you can't gamble with money you don't have. you can't buy off the government to get special favors in the tax code. yet the so-called conservative movement in this country seems to resolve around who can do what in their bedroom and could care less whether there's any capital requirements or any tax fairness. how did that happen? >> well, i happen to think i speak on behalf of the majority of republicans with the positions that i have. it's just that there's not -- i'm the one on the bubble. i'm the one on the bubble. it is what it is. i have to believe in the system, and i have to believe that the system at some point will shine a light on what it is that i'm

saying. the solutions that i'm putting up with regard to what the problems are, and the resume that speaks to actually implementing those things that i'm talking about. >> i agree with you, governor. i'd love to see you in that debate, along with so many others out there. it's only because i believe that you're willing to talk about the issues we need to be talking ak. whether it's the war or the banking system instead this nonsense we're suggested to from both parties at this point. governor, pleasure to see you. nice to see the panel as well. jimmy, susan and jane. thank you guys. next up here, proof schools in our country really have gone to pot. details on the new cannabis academy opening its doors this week as school rees open across the country. i wonder what's on their back-to-school shopping list? it's new! ahhh-ahh-ahh!

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all right. there's no question that 9/11 changed so many of us in so many ways and especially in the way that america views and relates to islam and islamic nations. the president -- president's bushes visit to a washington, d.c. mosque in the days following the attacks did little to stem the sentiment sweeping across america. our next guest claims that sentiment has only gotten stronger over the course of the past decade. the director of the more's courage project at new york university, and author of the any book "allah: liberty and love, the courage to reconcile faith and freedom" and one of my favorite guests.

a real pleasure to see you. >> back at you. >> three categories. keep it super simple and go through the groups. first the relationship with radical islam inside the islamic community. muslim-americans and their relationship with it is what? >> well, actually, a study came out from the pew research center about a week and a half ago. updating its own study in 2007. bottom line is that most muslim-americans believe that there is no support for extremism with their community. more non-muslim-americans believe there is. clearly a chasm. >> muslim-americans believe there's no support for radical islam. very little support with the community. >> right. >>ed perception is there is? >> exactly. moreover, most muslim-americans are working tightly and very well with law enforcement agencies. so there is already one divide in terms of perception that needs to be bridged. i think the bigger issue here actually dylan is that since

9/11, even more so than in the days immediately following that horrible moment, fear has increased. and i think fear, not just among non-muslims towards muslims, but really especially among liberals on both sides. here's what i mean. liberal non-muslim, often afraid to ask questions about islam, because they fear being labeled islamfolds or bigots or racists for doing so. liberal muslims, like myself, are often afraid to just openly air our views, because we fear on the one hand being called traitors and sellouts by islam supremacists. >> that radical islam does exist. >> and we fear an added level of intimidation, fear being labeled parents in waiting by islam bashes. all kinds of divides that need reconciled but we don't do it unless there's moral courage to

speak truth power on all sides for the greater good. >> the greater good being the obvious commonality we're a bunch of human beings on the planet. >> frankly very crowded and we need to figure out ways of living together peaceably. >> or richard branson needs to hook up that spaceship. >> long as it doesn't go haywire. >> exactly. probably better to work it out than go with the spaceship guy. yes. >> right. >> all right, fine. listen, we'll call a meeting with mr. branson. so i get it with muslim-americans and i can see it makes -- rationally, you add -- understand. the left, again, they don't want to engage in the real debate, because they don't want to be perceived as -- >> right. >> racist or whatever. >> exactly. >> on the right, there's plenty of fear as well. >> yep. >> describe that. >> oh, well -- >> there's fear everywhere.

everyone's working the fear mat tricks? >> exactly. the frame where we're most operating today. someone has to break the silence in a very, very big way. right. by the way, it's interesting. i tweeted this myself the other day. why is it when we use the word right we typically mean christian, jewish or secular right. what about the muslim right? the conservatives with the muslim community who also play the fear card? the anti-west, anti-jewish, being anti-anything other than -- >> just claim the subject object. >> exactly. still again, we've got to be very clear about our definition. be very honest with one another, and we can only do that when we're waiting to ask questions of one another. i know people say to me, oh, you've got to respect me. you know what? i respect you when i ask questions of you because i'm treating you like an equal, like peer. i don't think you're going to melt under the light's scrutiny. when i'm not asking question because i think you don't have the capacity to operate

critically, that is when i disrespected you. again, let us -- things are thom topsy-turvy. we've got to reclaim the word respect and what it means to be in an honest conversation. reclaim that. >> you're talking basic problem-solving. at the ego of a participant or fear, whatever it is, cannot trump the problem solves. a group of people trying to put out fires just because i want to be on hoses and you want to drive the truck, if you're driving the truck and i'm working the hoses we can't put out a fire. >> right. what's the point? >> what have we really done? >> exactly. you say the word ego and it comes down to identity. constructed by other people and puts you in a box. don't confuse that with your integrity which is snag you can see yourself. it's reconciling your multifashion itted dimensions. have integrity. that's when you don't fear. having high defenses. right? but when you have only identity,

you're defenses, you know, totally rise and -- tend to be vulnerable. >> you're saying, when you function, whether muslim-american, conservative, liberal, jew, christian, i don't care, man, woman, child, whatever. >> right. >> then when you function without integrity, the core lehrs of that is a high rate of fear? >> right. >> fear correlates to crappy decision-making. >> that's it. >> and a high level of integrity, fear goes down and decision-making improves. >> right. because you are more than just a label that other people applied to you. you don't have to emotionally overinvest yourself in one category. that's when your defenses can come down and you can really listen to a person. >> an interesting point in history and time we finds ourselves. >> right. >> the totality of the power dynamic is bashed on split. us and then. american versus chinese, men versus women, rich versus poor,

democrats versus republican, but the only mechanism for problem-sochling proving to function is integrated collaboration towards the shared goal. >> yep. >> learning, health, whatever it is. >> and put in a simple equation, it's and both, not either/or. >> leave it on that note. powerful message on the tenth anniversary of a divisive day. if only we could then divert that. >> we'll do it. >> appreciate it. thank you. i believe that. we will do that. we actually i think, are doing it. "allah: limit and love" the book. irshad snuchlt manji the author. and a busy company that politics. chris matthews on last night's debate. the president's big speech. lots of big words from politicians. next, other folks wanted him. but we got him.

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well, a "d.r. show" first. in seconds, the world premiere of a short film by no other than than andrew jenks. his goal to show all of us how a generation was inspired to create greatness out of the tragedy of 9/11. take a look. >> cameras up. and market. >> home is in the north shore suburbs of chicago. >> a small farm town. >> i am 24 years old.

>> i am 22. >> i'm 23. >> i lived in a small town in new jersey. >> spending your days playing baseball in the front of the house. >> i was just starting my sophomore year in high school. >> my first semester of college. >> i would be at the high school at 7:30. >> i had classes at 10:00 and overslept and woke up and watched 9:55. so i didn't turn on the television or radio, obviously, because i was already late for class. >> i just knew it was around, like, 11:00 at night, and i'm doing homework. put it off or something. >> i had a really big test. >> calculus class. >> my art teacher got a phone call from her niece who was in the second tower. >> the principal said over the intercom that drch dr-- >> two planes had crashed into

the twin towers. >> a lot of people were bleeding. >> dying. >> a plane crash. >> disbelief. >> tragedy. >> other things, panic. >> who was responsible for this? >> firefighters go in. >> the building. >> and never come back out. >> people running. >> killed. >> disaster. >> didn't know what was coming. >> wiping ash off their body. >> a lot of people suffering. >> running around, smoke everywhere. >> people in the streets, all hysterical. >> two planes flu into the world trade center. >> looking up in the sky and there not being any airplanes. we were trying to get on the computer and see what was going on. >> my aunt worked in the pentagon. i couldn't get ahold of her. >> my dad is bold boarded a pla that morning to new york city. >> a long line for the pay phone, which we still used at the time. >> so nervous i went to the cafeteria and just saw, like,

the confusion that was happening, and that my dad might be part of it. >> parents thinking about their kids. i think everybody thought, mom and dad, are they home or somewhere safe? >> the next morning was interesting, because the first thing that happened was i had my appointment with the cable guy to come and said it up. the cable guy, 9:00 in the morning and then i had two classes and i just sat there by myself and kept watching it's news. i was stunned and silent. >> seeing people jumping out of the building. things like that you can't unsee. when you're that age, it really matters. >> it was definitely a loss of innocence. >> forced us to grow up a little faster. >> we were of the age kind are starting to make sense of how we dealt with the world and if we cared about politics or about war. things like that. and up until that point, the worst thing that happened was somewhere else and all of a sudden we couldn't avoid it. >> it was liked young americans who were in college and ready

for our future, and all of a sudden the future became very uncertain. >> sort of i remember being in my bathroom and crying. i was wearing -- taking off my shirt, changing. >> we knew it was something big and generation shaping was taking place. >> describe the temperature in the atmosphere a few days after the -- patriotic. i didn't understand it. i feel it was a moot point. >> i was waking up walking to the bus stop to go to school. the first thing i noticed, everybody had their american flags out. >> even the kids in the town were doing lemonade stands and car washes. i just -- that's what really stands out to me after 9/11. all of these people rallying behind the heroes. whether it was a dollar for a car wash or blood to save a life. everyone i knew was giving.

>> the whole nation experiences a whole generation experience something like that, a connection. >> our generation is often thought of as idealistic and really hopeful. the whole idea and actually a lot of what i based my career on since then is about connecting more of the world to important causes. i think a lot of that was molded from 9/11 and certainly there was opportunity to kind of lose hope after that day, but i do think that millennials grew a lot of internal hope that there could be heroes born out of tragedy. there could be goodness that comes out of disaster. >> i'm a millennial and i will never forget. >> joining you nous, filmmaker andrew jenks also of m-tv p "world of jenks." wonderful, emotional piece. >> thank you. >> certainly for me, and i suspected for many who have and

will see that. what's your answer to the "why?" question? why this particular format, why five minutes, why this way? why this? >> i was working really closely with mtv act and thought was important that we all take a second to stop and athink and this five-minute piece could be a chance to reflect where we are and think about how we can move forward. i feel a lot of times our generation is looked at as complacent or really don't care. i think that day really struck a cord with us in many different aspects. we felt on that day in just almost a singular moment devastation, terrorism. horror. our parents dying. seeing terrible images. in that same day in that same moment, we felt hope, courage, a sense that you can really do something. we saw firefighters going into buildings and not coming out.

that sort of imagery doesn't leave. it's not something you necessarily think about. it's something you can only feel, and i'm of the belief that it really became ingrain fld a part of our generation, and in turn is reflected in how we view the world. and that is that we can do something. we saw those firefighters and police officers. we saw the passengers on that flight. we saw all of them do something. that's why there are organizations that exist that are of young people, for young people, such as mtv act. it's out there and just a matter of myself and others being a little bit more bold, a little bit more ambitious and putting out our ideas and thoughts as much as possible. >> this is published not as an mtv product, not as an nbc product, not as an anybody products. outside the wall's garden, if will you, of corporate video, as a youtube product. why? >> it's important we look at this day as something